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Song
06/03/2007 11:52
Excellent read David
So is jealousy a possibility in some of the anti- DelaRey Crusades?
Have a thought for chris Chameleon- also an Anglo booikie- who said that the english speaking people you have described- dont accept South african music as cool enough!
Therefore he makes aliving by singing for the afrikaaners
Interesting topic though - Willem |
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Not sure
06/03/2007 11:59
Fools always make the loudest noise. Do you want to be ruled by fools? - jacoline |
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Sing the loudest
06/03/2007 12:01
Surely the black faction led by JZ will sing the loudest. After all they have many more decades of toi toi practice than the rest of us.
And when you are singing about killing someone it seems it illicits a far more determined rendition.
As a white enlish speaking 25yr i identify more with the Afrikaans culture, at least they have something to sing about.
English whites have always been a pathetic, divided bunch, we will never sing the same song. - Juan |
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I AGREE
06/03/2007 12:18
I couldn't agree more. I'm in much the same boat as far as my background is concerned. My mother's father was Scottish and her mother Jewish. And my father's father was English and his mother Welsh. But, I was born in South Africa, and I am proudly South African, although my ancestary is very important to me. I too feel left out. What is wrong with the English speaking artists? Are we not a proud culture too? - Tracy |
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Everyone should have a song
06/03/2007 12:39
Dear David,
Very simple, the song that is gaining popularity amongst the English speaking is "WE SHALL OVERCOME" It is not only the Afrikaner that feels hard done by this Government!!
Many are saying we should adopt JZ's song and translate it into English and Afrikaans then both white factions will have a common song to sing at all get togethers. The JZ faction will happily join in. Can you imagine a single song being sung by Zulu's, Eglish and Afrikaans people, The ANC will tremble!!!! - Hugo Greeff (Nom de plume - "Mashanini Wam |
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you must be a god
06/03/2007 12:40
David Moseley - You must be a god, coz no human can cnojure up such wisdom. I like the sing off quite alot. - kudu |
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sorry old chum
06/03/2007 12:48
Hate to break it to you- but we were raised with the impression that English speaking white south africans didnt have any cultural identity to speak of; Africas trailer trash if you will. Gross generalisation, mind- and not necessarily a standing opinion now. sad really- there should be some sort of movement started- you could call it ex colonialist thieves- who can we pillage now? - fiona |
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A song for everyone
06/03/2007 12:50
David, you are brilliant. Your article really made me laugh. A sing off would definitely be far more entertaining that watching votes come in, some off which may actually be counted... - Amanda Stonehouse |
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Give this girl a song to sing...
06/03/2007 12:53
I have just seen a white girl sitting tearfully at her desk, scratching for some peace in her heart. The reason for her sadness is Affirmative Action and the inevitable racist explanations.
What must she sing? Is there a song about desparation, about hopelessness, about being a prisoner without identity? - TC |
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Song - suggestion
06/03/2007 12:55
Gloria Gaynor's "at first I was afraid, I was petrified..." I heard of an article in the sunday times listing SA as 3rd in the world rankings for violent crime - behind Columbia and Sierra Leone (er - they are in the middle of a civi war and we rank just behind them???) Roll on 2010, may the "crime free" "Utopia" we have been promised be fact not fiction. - Sarah |
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How about........
06/03/2007 13:01
As an English born but Afrikaans bred Coloured chick from the Northern Suburbs with more Dutch blood than my supposed Asian heritage, personally, my song is Bohemian Rhapsody. It's comletely nonsensical and has a great guitar solo. Sandi Thom's "I wish I was a punk rocker" certainly spoke to and about English cultures. Or how about anything by F*kofplosiekar? Surprisingly, they make sense in the musical world and sing about real life. David, you might need a translator to understand it though. - Erin |
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Sing along
06/03/2007 13:15
Thanks David, great laugh! Enjoyed the article thoroughly. How about some unity? One song for ONE nation? Nah let not get political, lets all have a song! =) - Lutherine |
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Sing-Song
06/03/2007 13:24
This does unlock some thought and concern about the complete lack of participation by English speaking folk. My mom's of Afrikaans desent and dad, Scottish. My vote would be for one of those blood-curdling sounds which could be heard from the highlands. One of those heard just before a wild pack of barbarian Scots invaded a perfectly innocent village in the south. Oops! Wait a minute... that would be the English. That won't do at all. Guess I am also clueless. Sorry. Nice article though! - Craig |
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Hmmmmm
06/03/2007 13:29
Well, if the crime issue is not addressed soon, the song most young South Africans will be singing is "Leaving on a jet plane". - Ruth |
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Excellent Article
06/03/2007 13:31
Enjoyed this one- your Dad who thinks he's your Dad wants to know who the impressionable guy with the ford cortina was! - No1 |
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Stuck in the middle
06/03/2007 13:31
I whole heartedly agree with you David. I've been saying this for years. As a white English South African, born and bred (as are all my ancestors) - what cultural identity do we really have? No national dress, song, dance, tradition, sense of community etc. Maybe our song should be "Stuck in the middle with you..clowns to the left of me jokers to the right.." - Ashleigh |
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Dave ole chap, u English folks can sing whatever tune u like,....
06/03/2007 13:33
It's necasary for the Afrikaans speaking south africans to stand up and be counted cause it's our language and culture that gets trampled on. The English folk only have to fight for your right to PARTY, yeah to PARTYYY but the afrikaans speaking dudes have to fight for their right to get education in their own much loved language(die afrikaanse taal). We even have to adopt a 2nd language (english) just to be able to get a proper job. Afrikaans got plenty of abuse, the time to sing has come Go BOK - Morne |
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Fiona is right, it boils down to culture
06/03/2007 13:36
David, go back to Standard 6 then and learn again that not all Black South Africans are Zulu. A song for the Zulu is not a song for all. I agree with Fiona, it boils down to culture. We can't all sing. There are far too many South Africans of different international origins. Only the ones with no culture must sing for their supper :-) - Nic, the last King of Scotland |
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Here's to You
06/03/2007 13:39
So glad people are finally talking about De la Rey without popping a vein. I remember a song called "Here's to You" by Just Jinger about South Africa ("stand proud, stand tall, look round, we've done the impossible"), It's not about being English, and they left the country...but they are English, and they are a band. Close enough? - kristen |
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Q&A
06/03/2007 13:43
"Why has no English South African rock star penned a stirring hit...?"
Because there is no such thing as an English South African rock star... - Charl |
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A song you say...
06/03/2007 13:44
...what was that song again, by Akon I think...
Lonely I'm so lonely,
I have nobody,
For my owwnnn...
*hehehe* Cheer up dude, we all love you just the way you are... - Francois Roux |
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Fools and noise
06/03/2007 13:46
Wow, Jacoline. Fools make the loudest noise? I remember singing "Hier kom die bokke..." I think a lot of English folk sang along. I remember yelling when our batsmen sunk Aus with that amazing 438. Sometimes making noise is good for the soul. I hope, come the end of the cricket world cup, I get another go at being "foolish". Hope you join us.
I think it's a good think if you find things to sing about. - Jan |
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SA, a unified society
06/03/2007 13:50
Daivd must be reminded that South Africa belongs to all, which suggest all South Africans must sing the same song. It will be barbaric to invite everyone to compose his or her ethnic song. JZ is having his own liberation song being inherited from the struggle & his song only symbolises the struggles won by Africans. I guess though some of this songs are informed by the role played during struggle 4 national liberation, if English speaking people played no role they probably feel isolated. - Sizwe |
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Everyone should have a song
06/03/2007 13:54
I have got...we should all sing "this land is your land, this land is my land...." by Des and Dawn, I think..
Enjoyed the article and I have always maintained, that the English speaking SA?s do not know where to fit in and like to crit the Afrikaans culture. - Jacques |
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Song to sing
06/03/2007 13:54
I'm sure Ben Castle who campaigned for recognition of the Anglo African people would be
a good person to ask! I am an English speaking, proudly South African, non-British individual! - Andrew |
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song
06/03/2007 13:56
I will suggest that from now on your name will be "Mr NO TALENT", of course you don't have it dude everything you write is dule and st$%#d. Dont you ever get tired of boring people? And I suggest to news24 to fire your Ar@# since you are wasting their space plus u have no talent in writing a column you are just wasting everybody's time. - victor |
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Come On
06/03/2007 14:04
What a pathetic idea! It would probably cause more unrest than anyhting else! Extremely childish article - you sound about 5 years old right now. Has our country really come to this point? As if we don't have enough in-fighting as it is. I agree with Lutherine - one song for one nation. - Anon |
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Song Suggestion
06/03/2007 14:04
Good one - Maybe The Clash song "Should we we stay or should we go now. If we go there will be trouble but if we stay it will be double. So you got to let us know, should we stay or should we go" - Russ |
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Left out?
06/03/2007 14:28
I think us English folk are intelligent enough to not let a silly song cloud our judgement. As much as I believe I'm an African, if things were to take an even sharper turn for the worst in my much loved country, I could simply pull out my British passport and travel to wherever I wanted to. Un-patriotic ? perhaps. Having a decent back-up plan ? priceless. - Chris |
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Song for the English
06/03/2007 14:34
David asks for songs for the English here - How about Anarchy in the UK - Sex Pistols - robin hawkins |
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An English de la Rey
06/03/2007 14:44
Anyone, Afrikaner, English, and others who want their song is free to have it. It will just be singing. There will not be any return to colonialism or Apartheid. Safe way is to just pack for Perth and those places. Otherwise, happy singing. - Socrates |
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Dela Rey
06/03/2007 15:11
Why are people always look at everything in a bad way? There is definitely no harm in the song, leave the Afrikaans people, let them enjoy their own songs. - Erika |
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General
06/03/2007 15:25
David - great article!! Had a great laugh. Victor - get a life.... Wanna see you try and do better? - An3 |
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Lord Kitchener
06/03/2007 15:26
There's actually quite a nice & appropriate song about Kitchener - as performed by Piet Botha... - jr |
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rather keep quiet...
06/03/2007 15:29
Dude, the British where kicked out of every country they have ever occupied (except Aus, but they don?t count). They are not a popular bunch. If I was you I'd rather start singing with JZ or learn afrikaans, its not something you want to propagate! - Sipho |
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Haha
06/03/2007 15:33
Hey Victor, judging from your eloquent post above, perhaps the reason you don't enjoy the articles is because you dont read or write so good... - Utah |
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heres a song
06/03/2007 15:34
My friend Brent always said (even before '94) that one day we must all sing the song "Weeping" by Qkumba Zoo at sporting events. Maybe its because its about nothing in particular... and it is a realy nice tune and 100% South African. - Andy |
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read & sing
06/03/2007 15:40
Great read. Just so sad Victor can't read. - Pierre |
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