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Chit-chat and flame wars
03/04/2008 13:15  - (SA)  

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Georgina Guedes

Back when telephones first became widespread, people who used them used to shout into the receiver.

Chances are, their terrestrial lines didn't have the same sensitivity ours do today, and some volume was probably necessary, but I think that the telephone users of yesteryear were also still under the misapprehension that yelling was necessary.

Telephones were seen as devices for merely amplifying sound, so people seemed to think that to more effectively increase the chances of their voices being heard in the four streets down, they should raise them.

Even today, when we're pretty comfortable with telecommunications technology, we still see people who shout on overseas calls, regardless of the quality of the line, as if sheer force of volume will carry their voice across the seas.

New strokes, different folks

Users of more modern forms of communication can be forgiven for their inability to come to terms with the intricacies and etiquette of the technology that they're using, given that they've only been using it for ten to fifteen years.

And I don't mean cellular networks either - unfortunately no amount of yelling is going to help with the increasing number of dropped calls and "network busy"s - I'm talking about mailing lists.

If you've never had the pleasure and the pain of belonging to a mailing list, here's how they work. You join what is basically an e-mail chat group that covers some hobby or interest you have, or relates in some way to your profession.

Then the spam starts. Everyone who is a member of can post to the whole list, and all responses are received by everyone.

It's a great way to keep in touch with things you're interested in or to stay abreast of professional developments. It's also a fantastic timewaster. The number of mails in your inbox increases exponentially. Don't join a mailing list unless you're prepared to wade through a virtual mailroom's worth of correspondence while waiting to receive one interesting or salient communication.

The agony and the ecstasy

Unfortunately, there are some people who join mailing lists who haven't cottoned on to this, their basic mode of operation. So, on top of the occasional off-topic mail where someone lets everyone know about a very good gardener who's free on Thursdays, you get lots of mail from people who complain about what other people are saying.

These complaints usually result in a long debate between those who didn't mind the posting in the first place and those who find it so difficult and time consuming to hit the delete key that they would rather write a long e-mail (which contains a lot of keystrokes) about the inappropriateness of the offending comment.

As far as I'm concerned, people who don't have a hair trigger on the delete key should refrain from joining mailing lists.

And then there are flame wars. Flame wars are when someone makes a comment about something - it usually starts off fairly innocuously - and then, what do you know, someone else takes offense. But instead of politely entering into debate, that person criticises the initial poster, their upbringing, their family, their background and their intelligence.

And then it starts. E-mails fly frantically back and forth. Everyone gets involved. Everyone take sides. Some people try to sound reasonable, but in their peacemaking efforts, miss the original point, and eventually a moderator has to step in and tell everyone to calm down.

This seldom works, as people who were out to lunch when the debate erupted come back and start replying to earlier mails without reading the whole thread. Everyone gets upset all over again.

The point of it all And so, in the early days of mailing list technology, we're faced with the same misconceptions as early telephone users - that yelling is the best way to make yourself heard.

If you're reading this and wondering why anyone would join such melting pots of vile emotions and ongoing drama, the answer is, because it's fun, and interesting, and somewhere in the midst of all the junk, there are some real gems of information or humour. But take the caveats above into account.

I think the single most important rule of mailing lists, "netiquette" aside, is to always e-mail in the same tone as you would speak at a dinner table surrounded by guests that you didn't know particularly well.

Reprimands, questioning their intelligence and undermining other people would not be polite in that context, and isn't on a mailing list either. And there are far more people to offend.

  • Georgina Guedes is a freelance journalist who clearly has too much time on her hands. She says "Hooray for President Morgan Richard Tsvangarai!"

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      mailing lists
    03/04/2008 13:55
    Speaking of which, the same applies to comments on this site. Most of the time the original thread is lost in the mists of (misspelled) rhetoric... Quite fascinating. - taurus
     
      Wars
    03/04/2008 13:56
    Well-put, unfortunately it happens a lot in the news24 comments as well, somehow I had learnt to forget about the past but some comments here have awaken my emotions to hating some races, we just need to be humans again, that is if we still remember how to be. - mb
     
      The comfort is...
    03/04/2008 14:23
    The comfort is that when people start abusing each other from the comfort of their desks/living rooms or wherever, they are in a position of assumed power and no-one is able to tell them to shut up. It can be quite liberating to speak ones mind and it entices those who might not do so in a normal public environment, the benefits of that is the amplified amount of ideas into the pot, so the knife cuts both ways. But yes, I agree with you in principle - Nick
     
      Flame wars...
    03/04/2008 14:25
    Oh, they have an official name? Now I know. As one of the other readers has noted, the MYNEWS24 site is particulary good for viewing this kind of battle. I think we need a "slap" button on our keyboards... - Sarah
     
      Another point,
    03/04/2008 14:52
    Nick is right, a lot of the commentors are drawn in and are comfortable with the forum, as no one can shout back or tell them to buzz off. Also, frequently (read almost always) seriously awful remarks are made when hiding behind a pseudonym. - Sarah
     
      the best
    03/04/2008 14:56
    The best is when they don't read the e-mail properly,take it personal and then overeact. - leslie
     
      Well balanced article
    03/04/2008 14:59
    Georgina.It is easy to take a moral high ground on this issue.What happens if, although you moderate yourself,your guests at your dinner table don't?.Do you ask them to behave,kick them out or don't invite them back again?.It boils down to choice.Sure this site gets used as the proverbial spittoon for peoples bile.The world is not sterile.Power of choice.Nothing funnier than seeing someone having an argument on a cellphone in a grocery store and pointing their fingers in a rage at the tea bags. - psycobabble
     
      You are right
    03/04/2008 15:26
    I think these mailing lists are a great idea as they are unpredictable and exciting, even though some people get hurt emotionally in some instances.Its a great platform to see how people think and what they get up to if noone is looking them in the face,you get to realize what goes through some peoples minds when they are alone, its just easier to speak up when you not staring people in the face. Great article and yah, hooray, Morgan :) - Tafadzwa
     
      the rules....
    03/04/2008 15:33
    ...are actually the same as when you join a group of people at a social gathering. Hold your comment until you know what the real topic is, try to contribute to the conversation and present your point. Don't attack. Throwing in a curved ball is allowed but make sure it does not hurt. If you are looking for an argument, say so and take it off line. - Benzo
     
      I might be wrong...
    03/04/2008 15:47
    but i've observed that when the topic evolves around women issues and if it's mostly women who comment..there is less friction,emotions and most importantly less racial bickering.Does this perhaps make us men more racial than women? I thin so sadly.Makes you think doesn't it?? - boyzie
     
      NOT NOW BOYZIE
    03/04/2008 16:14
    i was just hoping that just this once, only this once, nobody talks about or bring up the issue of race but you just have to spoil a good forum with race, please, lets leave that for tomorow, the day had almost ended on a good note.Let stick to the topic and avoid controversy, just this once if ever possible. Thank you - Tafadzwa
     
      Tauras
    03/04/2008 17:53
    Since Taurus is complaining about the mispellings of others one would assume that he would be meticulous with his. He goes on to spell "midst" as mists and "mispelt" as mispelled thereby exposing his little old ass. Because I am so understanding of your shortcomings with spelling I have made the effort not to lose your rhetorical thread. Tolerance is key if you are an imperfect human being!!! - Dbongs
     
      Tafadzwa
    03/04/2008 22:27
    Good one. I'm voting for you in the next election. - Hugh
     
      Bending the rules...
    03/04/2008 22:40
    Spot on to Georgina and to Benzo. Columns such as News24 do leave some opportunity to be totally rude with their own ideas at their disposal, well aware of any backfiring not affecting them directly or personally. It's the easy way out but don't ignore manners or stupidity in giving out your details. Justify unfavoured circumstances when the bottled up fury bursts - and accept it's your choice to allow those within a radius of miles to hear you out - Sue
     
         
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