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Thank God for a man like Zuma
17/04/2008 13:12
Thank God for a man like Zuma as Mbeki is clearly cut from the same cloth as Mugabe and our country would have ended up just like Zim if MBEK continued ruling.... - Kobus Hattingh |
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they are allies!
17/04/2008 13:14
You don't get it.It's not about an inefficient strategy in "trying to persuade" Mugabe to accept the democratic process.The Washington Post is spot on.Mbeki is, in fact, protecting Mugabe. - kwk |
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how can he?
17/04/2008 13:17
How can Mbeki ignore the pleas for help from around 3 million Zimbabweans in SA, as well as the many thousands in Zimbabwe! It's ridiculous! It's apparent that Mbeki has his own agenda. The sad thing is, he never was a great leader for South Africa, and he will be remembered by many for years to come as the coward who refused to help. - Silverza |
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Democracy
17/04/2008 13:31
Picture this! It is May 1994. It has been almost 3 weeks since the South African people has casted their votes, but the IEC refuses to release the official results. Even the courts refuses. Everyone knows that the ANC has won and that Mandela is the new president. But the National Party regime refuses to accept this and will not acknowledge the majority vote. .... and guess what, Zimbabwe says .... this is an internal affair of the South Africans and we will not interfere! - MC |
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Please God, let Mbeki carry on with Quiet Diplomacy....
17/04/2008 13:37
After all, the world is on the verge of realising that Mbeki is doing a perfect job of protecting despots and dictators. He supports Mugabe and Castro,Gadaffi and Omar al-Bashir, Kim Jong-il and li KhamEnei, Hu Jintao and King Abdullah, Than Shwe and Muammar al-Qaddafi, Bashar al-Assad and Teodoro Obiang Nguema,King Mswati III and Isayas Afewerki, Pervez Musharraf and Choummaly Sayasone,Meles Zenawi and Hosni Mubarak, Paul Biya and provides a haven for Haiti's tyrant Aristide?
Why? - Walt |
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Thabo Mugabe
17/04/2008 13:39
The sooner Thabo Mugabe goes the better. He is an embarassment to South Africa. We need brave men of action not those concerned about the past and old alliances. So much focus is being given to the past the future is drying up. Throw the old drum out and lets beat one for the future. - CL |
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I'm a Mbeki fan but...
17/04/2008 13:39
I'm very disappointed in the guy, whoever I think he doesnt care anymore. - Tumza |
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good stuff!
17/04/2008 13:41
Good article! And I hope you don't get fired for saying it like it is. Mbeki is hardly ever in the country , so I'm not sure what he's doing anyway!
And not including your usual "funny bit" at the end just shows how serious you are about the issue on Zim, which is more than what we can expect from our leaders. - jalaka |
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Human Rights?
17/04/2008 13:41
Well here we find ourselves in a county that preaches human rights. Yet we can't seem to condemn any county that goes against that. Once again... there is no crisis. Let the ballots be counted? Where is a real leader. Someone to take a stand? I fear that Mugabi and Mbeki are far too friendly. But the fearsome point is, why? - Robert |
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2nd mugabe
17/04/2008 13:41
Sorry to say mbeki just like mugabe !! Don't care about anything but themselves! Get rid of both of them and let Zuma look after South-Africans and make it a better place before it turns into another Zimbabwe. - john le roux |
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Mbeki - an embarassment for South Africa
17/04/2008 13:44
The saddest part is that Mbeki is the "father" of the wonderful NEPAD plan and African Renaissance ideals, but he negates all of that with his absolutely illogical attitude towards Mugabe. Mbeki, when confronted with Mugabe seems like an Impala frozen in car headlights at night - he is clueless as to what to do. We need REAL leadership and statesmanship. Mbeki has failed SA and Zimbabwe on both counts. - Retief |
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Pre
17/04/2008 13:46
I only hope that "President Denial" does not deny as the opportunity to see him leave office next year.denial has become his trademark(e.g Hiv, crime, corruption "Andrew Feinstein",Zimbabwe crisis and so forth.Fortunately the Polokwane outcome has denied him the opportunity to extend his " Denialism Philosophy" - Stanley |
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African Leadership?
17/04/2008 13:47
Good letter. However the term "African leadership" belongs to the same category as Father Christmas and the Easter Bunny - none of them exist! - Now Overseas |
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Ann - it's you again - hypocrite
17/04/2008 13:50
:) Your parents were in SA when atrocities were committed against black people. Yet they lived on without complaining and in doing so enrich themselves and furthered the aims of the racist apartheid regime. You're a product of this evil system and here you are pontificating to us about double standards. DO you what it really means? Your wealth, property and status in society was acquired illegally. Give it back. - MyCountry |
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Mbeki
17/04/2008 13:50
Georgina, I agree whole-heartedly with you. It's just a pity the idiot will probably not get to see your column. - Geoff |
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Sheer Dissapoinment!
17/04/2008 13:57
I am dissapointed in Mbeki. As a leader he does not show any possession of responsibility and accountability.Sad that there is ultimately no Political party in SA that represents my needs. Who am I going to vote for? - Thato |
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AND
17/04/2008 13:57
Never mind Zim. How much confidence in SA's stability is Mbeki attracting with his moronic stance on 'democracy' ? I wonder how people at UN meetings manage to keep a straight face when mbeki speaks! - Juan |
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Double Standards
17/04/2008 14:01
As one of your avid readers I once again agree with you 101%!! In my opinion our current President is even worse than some of the white ones we had (and believe me they were bad!!!)Maybe our pres. should go to the border and welcome all these illegals streaming accross our borders from Zim with open arms!! Please help yourselves to some more hijackings/house robberies and other violent crimes, we have capacity to take ALL the ex Zimbabweans. - Chris Pieters |
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African Problem
17/04/2008 14:03
I listen with amazement when African leaders in this type of situation say: "This is an African problem - we will sort out our own affairs"..........yet, they are quick to stand with begging bowls asking for financial aid and food for their "people"..........even going so far as to DEMANDING this aid from the rich nations. Is this an "African" culture?? - True Blue SA |
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@ MC
17/04/2008 14:08
Very good point, further to that, when the results comes out, the ANC looses to a cooked NP victory, what would Zim then have said: "Leave them to sort out their own problems!". Great Article Georgine. Thabo is useless. Zuma is saying what everyone wants to hear, hope he puts a few promises into action. - Agree |
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Over the Edge
17/04/2008 14:08
Pres. Mbeki is staring at the abyss, judging by the expression on his face at every public encounter. He looks as shocked as Mugabe did days after his non-election. I think that both should hold hands and wander off into the sunset of their once promising, now thoroughly discredited political careers. Now all we need is a far-away island to accommodate two would-be, dejected and rejected dictators. - Philip |
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Deaf Man
17/04/2008 14:12
Do you really think Bob is going to listen to Mbeki, or anyone else in the world for that matter? If he was going to, he would have done so a long time ago. What must Mbeki do? - conrad |
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Loud diplomacy?
17/04/2008 14:12
Suppose Mbeki shouts at Mugabe:"You are a dictator,you have destroyed the country,people are suffering because of you,please step down,and oh i nearly forgot, you rigged the elections"Do you think the following day vroeg in die more Mugabe will step down? - Godfrey |
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Mbeki
17/04/2008 14:12
You are SO right! Watching him strut around on the world stage, giving pathetic answers, makes one cringe with embarassment. - SF |
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Well done Georgina
17/04/2008 14:16
That is all in a nut shell. What a good summary. - UKBoertjie |
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He held his hand and kept a straight face.
17/04/2008 14:21
Mbeki is lost in his own state of lunacy and dillusion, he refuses to accept reality. Now I understand better why he was voted out in Polokwane, his arrogance makes everyone sick. Anyone who shares a different view than him becomes a saint and a hero. Holding hands with tyrant made by stomach turn. Sadly though, Zimbos are just as docile and masochists. - Libembe |
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Georgina
17/04/2008 14:21
Great article. It's been very difficult putting my frustrations i have about Mbeki's leadership into words but this article is exactly how i feel. And to put it politely, i'm feeling pretty miserable about life in South Africa at the minute. - John Camp |
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I know why mbeki acts like this.
17/04/2008 14:22
He can now do/say whatver he wants, as he's on his way out ANYWAY!!! Finally showing his true colors! - Juan |
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There's a time to.....
17/04/2008 14:29
A week is a long time in politics, many political careers have been ruined in less. But it's the rapid slide of voters' confidence in a leader that's so dramatic. George Bush knows, Tony Blair knew, Mugabe and Mbeki should know by now. The time comes when the leader completely loses touch with reality and for these two the time has clearly come. Now who's going to give them the boot? Let's have a News24 poll to test this, as our election next April won't feature either of them. - Mukwa |
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Mbeki
17/04/2008 14:32
I live in the States and the world does not care about Zim or what happens in Zim or Africa. The papers here only have a slight reference to the elections and how SA is supporting Zim. To bad Zim is not flowing with oil..... - JB |
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For crying in a bucket!!
17/04/2008 14:35
Would all those using the excuse that MBeki speaking out will not change anything please stop!! What you imply is that no leader or country should have bothered to speak out against apartheid as the NP would not have handed over power over night. Where would black South Africa be today if the world had shared this view 20 years ago. You belittle our intelligence and yours. - JB |
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Stop this waffling ...
17/04/2008 14:36
Mbeki said the world must wait for the results because there is a parallel process taking place - ZANU and MDC themselves were contesting the results of some constituencies. Now, what must he do if two main players went on to contest the results that are not yet released? - TheOne |
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So...What now?
17/04/2008 14:39
What I find amazing is the fact that there are a number of organisations out there voicing their concerns and calling for the release of the results, but who is listening? Will Mugabe and/or ZANU-PF suddenly say, Oh Sorry!...Here are the results, (by the way we Won!) Which country, organisation or entity has the balls to actualy go the Zimbabwe and forcebly remove Bob from office, no one! So..What now? - Rodders |
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Quite versus Loud Democracy
17/04/2008 14:41
Mwanawasa once likened Zim with a sinking Titanic, and the media praised him for doing the right thing. That was last year in August. Has the "Titanic" analogue done better than quite democracy? Quite democracy has instead ensured that, for the first time ever, the MDC got access into the rural areas,campaigned freely and results are not tampered with. Now what has "loud democracy" achieved then? Please enlighten us! - TheOne |
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MC
17/04/2008 14:45
You are coming short of the full picture there. If that would have happened to us in 1994, this country would be ungovernable now. On the other hand the Zimbos sit on their backsides and spew insults to our president. We would be on the street taking bullets for democracy. Zimbos must do the same, THEN they will have my sympathy. - Z |
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Bob & Mbeki in bed together
17/04/2008 14:46
Yawn....... Come on Mbeki, stand up and make an executive decision, what are you hiding, beside being unfit to sit in your position. - Colin |
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Call it.......
17/04/2008 14:46
Whatever you want, diplomacy, wara wara, i call it "having a banana backbone. - Thokozani |
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PRO MUGABE
17/04/2008 14:46
Mbeki is pro-Mugabe period that has been like that since crisis began in Zimbabwe.Mbeki should have continued with the quiet diplomacy rather than saying that there is no crisis in Zimbabwe, those are lame words coming from one of the leaders of the strongest economy in Southern Africa, this has raised a lot of eyebrows on the international affairs.... - true |
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SADC MAKES A STUPID MISTAKE BY DEPLOYING TM.
17/04/2008 14:49
Zimbos must tell TM not to put his foot in their soil,they can rather ask UN general sec.to redeploy another former head of states,he must employ more than two mediators for speed resolution. - Bethuel |
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Birds of the same feather...
17/04/2008 14:51
You must check the way these two guys (Thabo and Robert) respond to questions these days; very similar. Things like "Loud diplomacy..." How can you utter such rubbish as a head of state? Things like " Brown is a very small dot..." such rubbish!!!
Now our dear president denies that he ever said that there is no crisis in Zim. I think, Thabo Mugabe, get your house in order and talk to Robert and tell him to release those results, before you lose the little credibility that you still have... - Hape |
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Mbeki's double standards
17/04/2008 15:13
Georgina and the rest, don't you have anything better to do? What would you want Mbeki to do. What have you done for the guy on street. "double standards"? How many are in Africa! How many people have been bashing Rob? Did it change anything? If Thabo say something will he, Bob, give up the thrown? Please grow up and smell the coffee. if mbeki bashes Bob in public then communication with Zim are closed and War will be declared. Who will you blame 4 Zims problems? 'Zim's problems'! Zims problems!! - mjero |
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Neither Mbeki Nor Mugabe very wrong
17/04/2008 15:14
The only person who is highly wrong is Morgan, by taking advantage of the situation which the Big OLD Master from Briton have Created by Starving the Zimbabwean people so that they can migrate to neibouring countries and make it look like mugabe is chasing them away, and claiming victory of election without the formal announcement by the ZEC so that he cannot be declared the looser in anyway because then if he looses mugabe will look like a real dictator where else the dictator is the crown - FunnyPPL |
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shutup.....................
17/04/2008 15:20
pls just stop it,what do you expect our president to do?.The only thing we should do is to send this ppl back to their country.The only time i will vote for Zuma is when he send all this alliens back home.-fedup..... - georgina |
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Good Article
17/04/2008 15:33
Right on the spot. Good article. - Poshai |
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