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Georgina Guedes

Smokin' hot topic

2008-08-28 13:25

Georgina Guedes

As a writer, journalist or magazine editor, I am often exposed to a portion of the public with whom I would otherwise have very little contact. In many ways, this can be an enlightening experience. Most people move in circles of people with whom they have much in common, so hearing opinions and viewpoints from other segments of the population can be interesting and, at times, infuriating.

When I write a column, I can be pretty much guaranteed of hearing it all. Just about anything that I have to say will be vehemently agreed with by almost exactly 50% of the population (or at least the population who write back to me), and violently opposed by the other 50%. So, last week, when I wrote a column expressing how I felt about smoking in public, I knew I was in for a bit of a flaming.

The people who say things like "people like you are alive only because it is illegal to kil [sic] you" get dismissed right off the bat. If they're defending their right to smoke by making (not quite) death threats, they're clearly not rational human beings, and shouldn't be allowed to participate in any intelligent debate.

Smoking better than crime - duh!

What I did find interesting is the batch of responses I received this time around that pointed out that I have better things to be worrying about, like crime, oh, and crime, and when I'm done with that, I should worry about crime.

It seems that the defence of every self-righteous smoker in South Africa is that while people are being robbed, murdered or raped, it's okay for them to carry on smoking, because they're not doing half has much harm. And, I should keep my mouth shut about what they're doing, because there are more important issues to worry about.

First of all, I have a weekly column. If I wrote about crime every week, can you imagine the flaming I'd get from the "good news brigade", as well as the people who complain about the valuable column space I waste talking about the same issues all the time.

Secondly, just because something is worse than what you're doing every day, smoker, doesn't mean that what you're doing isn't awful. That's like saying "yes I beat my wife, but I've never laid a hand on my children, so until someone does something about the child molesters, leave me alone."

And no, I'm not comparing smoking to wife beating or child molesting, I'm just pointing out that because one thing is worse than another thing, it doesn't make the other thing any less of a problem.

Alcohol abuse far worse

Another batch of responses dealt with alcohol abuse. They pointed out the number of people that die on the road each year from alcohol-related collisions, the number of instances of domestic violence that occur because of alcohol use and the number of instances of air rage that occur on airplanes after free alcohol is dolled out.

Alcohol is a huge problem, I agree. South Africa should have decent public transport, but even so, that doesn't excuse the huge number of people who drive drunk every weekend. I have a large crowd of friends who have managed to get drunk and disorderly without beating each other or their girlfriends up, but I do see that in those with a predisposition to violence, the problem is exacerbated by booze.

Having said all of that, last week's column was not about alcohol, it was about smoking, and I say again that just because alcohol is also a problem, doesn't make smoking any less so.

Hypocrites complain then drive cars

And then there was the final bunch who pointed out that I drive a car to get around, and specifically to go out jolling, and that I am contributing to the general fug of air pollution that surrounds Johannesburg and it's therefore hypocritical of me to complain about smokers polluting the air that I breathe.

Unfortunately, public transport by electric train and getting around by bicycle isn't really an option in Johannesburg, or in most parts of South Africa. Driving is not a filthy, disgusting addiction - it's an unavoidable way of life. Even so, the air pollution caused by car exhausts doesn't come close to causing the number of deaths that smoking does. Cancer Research UK says that smoking causes 30 times more lung cancers than general air pollution.

In light of this, I say again to smokers, I should be able to move around in public without having my health compromised by your addiction.

Finally, to the vegetarian who wrote to me and said that she is perpetually offended by the stench of braaing wafting over the walls in South Africa, I sympathise with your plight, I really do, but I disagree that by comparison smoking falls to the bottom of the pile.

While other people eating braai meat may be offensive to you, they are not posing a direct risk to your health. And to the person who has an issue with the stench of perfume on some people out in public, I'm also not wild about it, but I'd still rather sit next to them than a smoker.

  • Georgina Guedes is a freelance journalist. She's proud to be lumped with the "new greenies" by her critics.

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    Smokey McCloud 8/28/2008 1:37:08 PM
    I'll smoke till i drop baby!
    Fed Up 8/28/2008 1:45:39 PM
    Very nicely put!
    Kolobe 8/28/2008 1:47:27 PM
    Tell them the truth...they must quit smoking!
    Morne 8/28/2008 1:51:16 PM
    No really it is... All this 'mine is bigger than your's' stuff is fascinating. While I agree that smokers should not deliberately infringe on the rights of non-smokers, i.e. put them at risk from a health perspective, non-smokers should also just shut it. There are many instances where our rights to existance within the boundaries and laws of society are infringed and nothing pisses me off more than inconsidered people - well maybe the guys wanting to show off their's is bigger...
    TB 8/28/2008 1:52:55 PM
    On this earth you will never find 2 people that think alike and that is fine. You gave your view and others gave theirs, so? Bottom line: I do not know you so I really do not care if you don't like my smell, my face, my car or my habits. I will always try not to inconvenience others unnecessarily, but also will not always succeed. E.g. I do not like the obsessive "Green Yuppies" you find in the cities, but who cares?
    Schmied 8/28/2008 1:54:34 PM
    Haven't you read 'The Secret'? Believe the 2nd hand smoke won't affect your health and you'll be fine. How much do you think your health is 'compromised' by smokers 10 metres away in an outdoor environment? Do you still have nothing better to complain about? Should I complain about people affecting my mental health as I am forced to look at the ugly and obese nearly every day? That has a greater affect on my misanthropic tendencies than a cig. would on your health - believe that, sista.
    turbo_superboss 8/28/2008 1:57:58 PM
    cute retort
    bj 8/28/2008 1:58:08 PM
    I agree. Smoking has to be one of the most disgusting habits ever. Smokers stink and then think it is fine to sit in a room with you and make you stink let alone affect your health as well. And to pass the buck on to other things is just a naive attempt to shift the focus from what they deep down know is a filthy habit.
    LJ 8/28/2008 1:59:40 PM
    I quit smoking along time ago and was never a heavy smoker to start. Even now i love my partner - who won't smoke in the house or near me and I must confess that cigarette smoke in the house is annoying. but i love that smell of tabacco (normally cherry or whiskey) that lingers on his skin :)
    Trish 8/28/2008 2:00:33 PM
    Misuse of any substance or behaviour that affects those around us is when we really have problems. Many people are too proud to admit they have a problem and go for help until some crisis happens and often it is too late.
    pat bateman 8/28/2008 2:01:02 PM
    I think the problem that people have is the way that smokers are villified and seen as people that can be mocked and criticized- when their addiction is no different to any other. Would you write an article about fat people and their smelly sweaty armpits and the drain their health problems put on our economy? I somehow doubt it. And your response to the vegetarian was a little off the mark. You say that eating meat is not a threat to the veggies health but it certainly is a threat to the planets health. If everyone on earth stopped eating meat carbon emissions would be reduced by 18%. ( Im no tree hugger- just read that the other day and found it very interesting).
    Smoker trying to quit 8/28/2008 2:04:00 PM
    I just have one problem with it. Just who are you do tell me what to do and when to do it. Fair enough it is unhealthy, and that not just for myself but for those around me. But the last time i checked I had the right to choose what to do with my time and money. It would be inconsiderate of ME to smoke in your face, just as it is inconsiderate of you to tell me where i can and cant.
    rosemary 8/28/2008 2:05:49 PM
    Your commentary is sound and well balanced. I say all smokers are oxygen thieves c'est nes pas???
    Godfrey 8/28/2008 2:07:29 PM
    Smoking is not only a health risk, smokers are ill-mannered, just notice how they throw cigarette butts anywhere without putting them out and sometimes causing fires that destroy property.
    gummibear 8/28/2008 2:08:09 PM
    I despise smoking. I hate being surrounded by clouds of smoke. It makes me nauseous, to the point of having migraines and generally ill for a few hours. Yet, my parents smoke. My best friends smoke. My colleagues smoke. I have even started a new job where people smoke in their offices and meeting rooms. Government offices. No regard for my health nevermind the law. I can only educate my kids and pray they will not be selfish and ignorant...like those flaming posters you mention. I'm dying.......
    bee 8/28/2008 2:09:19 PM
    I thought people who smoke in public are just selfish people. but now, reading the responses to Georgina's article last week, I now know they are intellectually challenged as well.
    Mark R. 8/28/2008 2:12:38 PM
    Well responded, good for you.
    bob 8/28/2008 2:14:13 PM
    And only will tell you one thing....I as a person have a right to smoke in public open spaces unless stated by law otherwise....Get off your high horse lady, I bet someone in you family smokes and on the day you visit or they do - do you tell them to stop or go smoke outside.... Smoking is disgusting but dont infringe on my rights as a citizen......If I want to smoke outside in public try stop me.....Oh to the lady who hates the smell of braai meat...thanks for the daily laugh.....pathetic
    ChrisR 8/28/2008 2:17:56 PM
    Georgina, bear with me. I'm an ex smoker but I am still sorry for the poor sods who smoke. Everybody is over them like a bad suit, some swear at them, some people are rude and the list goes on and on what they are subjected to. But I can only say this to them, try to stop and find out what it means to feel good again, to feel shouting, screaming good again.
    jenny 8/28/2008 2:17:58 PM
    Yeah, you really told 'em good, girl!! I'll add my voice to that by saying to your hecklers - put THAT in your pipe and smoke it!!
    Sandra 8/28/2008 2:19:20 PM
    Everyone has a bad habit... be it smoking or anything else for that matter, and there will always be some way that we are harming the planet and dipleasing someone in soceity... just live with it guys!!
    Smokey 8/28/2008 2:19:52 PM
    ...for the barrage of (50%) bad responses ;-)
    Ims 8/28/2008 2:22:44 PM
    I can definitely say that there are a hell of a lot of inconciderate smokers out there!It annoys the hell out of me when secondary smoke comes over into my "face"-personally move away from any non-smoker if I want one,or if I am the only smoker,then I don't smoke in "their space". It is a BIG NO NO to smoke in any non smokers home that is extremely disrespectful!So even smokers do get annoyed with fellow smokers!Smokers who do not want to quit for whatever reason,be respectful of the non-smokerso
    Claire Ranwell 8/28/2008 2:23:09 PM
    I enjoyed this article. Well done - brilliant writing.
    Womble 8/28/2008 2:28:09 PM
    Now that we have dissmissed all other lucid reasonable argument and comparison out of hand -thats great. End of the day THERE are more important issues at hand like the poverty line, crime, corruption, road safety, AIDS, food prices - all of which are reported on with a variety of success and failure but lets face it in SA there is hardly any accountability. The one thing we are strict on is smoking, but lest Id rather smell cigarette smoke than get t-boned by one of your drunk mates on the pull.
    JD 8/28/2008 2:28:33 PM
    Don't you think its unfair to label aal smokers as inconsiderate morons???
    JTA 8/28/2008 2:29:29 PM
    Really you have made your point last week loud and clear.The fact that you feel you have to justify yourself again this week is just plain boring. To be blunt I really could not give a damn what you enjoy and what you don't, the fact that you think anybody else gives a toss is conceited. Is this journalism?. I think I will step outside and light up now....
    Morne 8/28/2008 2:30:10 PM
    Point is, if you don't like smokers just because you think it is a disgusting habit then I would say get a life. If they put you at risk it is another story and smokers need to be put in their place. Lastly, as for all these studies... One week I read how good chocolate or wine is for you the next how bad it is. I listen to my body, do what I do because I want to. But I still respect the decisions and rights of others.
    LM 01 8/28/2008 2:32:10 PM
    this reminds me, time for a smoke break. bye.
    TDF 8/28/2008 2:35:57 PM
    I'm on your side here. Smokers are closet junkies; drug addicts. Let's start a movement to ban smoking altogether..........now now you smokers, don't get your hormones in a tiz now.....ha..ha
    Flamby Baderbuis 8/28/2008 2:36:26 PM
    As long as Spur and Wimpy and alot of other restaurants allow children into their smoking areas, they will be complicit in the many lung ailmanets of children these days. Imagine a kid who is exposed to smoke at their hmoes having to suffer 30 times the exposure when going to these places with mom and dad. Hopefull legislatiopn will catch a wake up soon
    Stryder 8/28/2008 2:37:49 PM
    But i would like to point out that driving IS a filthy disgusting addiction,have you heard of GLOBAL WARMING?. Asking an addict to refrain from any addiction is hell for that individual. I pray you never become addicted to anything.
    hilton smith 8/28/2008 2:39:08 PM
    im writing a response to make it into next weeks column about the responses from this weeks column
    nats 8/28/2008 2:39:15 PM
    Just give smokers a break...there is practically nowhere left where we are allowed to smoke...surely u have a vice? I understand inconsiderate smokers annoy you..but not all us nocotine addicts are like that.By the way...most of us want to quit but are stuck in a serious psycholigical trap...im mihrating soon (sa2oz.org) and would love to quit before i start a new like in australia!
    rosemary 8/28/2008 2:40:54 PM
    ..how many smokers are now responding with yes smoking is bad..ugly habit etc etc BUT. Deep down they KNOW it is disgusting!!!
    Bob 8/28/2008 2:41:35 PM
    "Cancer Research UK says that smoking causes 30 times more lung cancers than general air pollution." And then you say ?In light of this, I say again to smokers, I should be able to move around in public without having my health compromised by your addiction.? Your health is compromised as much as that general air pollution when you are not a smoker and standing next to one. What would you say is the biggest threat of someone smoking next to you? If it?s the smoke, then o boy you need to go have a look at your daily exposure to chemicals far more threatening. People like to whine about small things like this I understand.
    Coen 8/28/2008 2:41:51 PM
    Well, I'm sure smoking is really not your biggest issue but make me stop complaining about your filthy habit! Make me! Smoking is done by weak willed suckers that would've stopped if they could.
    Mark T 8/28/2008 2:42:21 PM
    Smoking itself is not a problem for me. If people choose to smoke, then good for them. However, I do have a problem with them smoking around other's. Many people have medical problems and smoking obviously aggrevates this. All I think is that smokers should be considerate of others. Also, fooling ourselves that because studies have proved that smoker's develope lung cancer more than non, is also lulling us into a false sense of security that the massive carbon emmissions are not affecting us.
    Vicky 8/28/2008 2:43:37 PM
    grown ups and agree to disagree? just goes to show the sheer ignorance of smokers, how dare they threaten you with violence? afterall you were expressing your views in country which has a freedom of speech enshrined in its constitution. Which part of this did they not understand? be strong Georgina and don't let them intimidate you, in anycase smoke is sure going to kill them before they kill you:-)
    Big J 8/28/2008 2:47:44 PM
    Jah, well no fine. What's the use of having bad habits if you can't use 'em? Me,I smoke,I lie,I cheat and I fornicate...sometimes I even get motherlessly drunk. I want to be completely used up when I die. I do this 'cause I worry... why do I worry - well, I worry 'cause I smoke, lie, and fornicate too much.Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
    anti-smoker 8/28/2008 2:50:21 PM
    I cant stand smoking- in fact I hate it. You wanna kill yourself then go right ahead. Why should I be made to sit inside at a restaurant when its such a nice day outside. Unfortunatley I cant sit outside because there may be one inconsiderate a.. hole blowing smoke in my face- Ban smoking outright in any public place. Put them in a glass cage!!!
    Mannymia 8/28/2008 2:50:46 PM
    I am a smoker and would love nothing more than for smoking to be banned in all public areas. Nothing gets on my nerve more when I see people smoking around children or at a dinner table with people still eating etc. If we banned smoking in bars, clubs etc it would benefit everyone involved.
    LMDAVE 8/28/2008 2:50:59 PM
    Ive been close to 3 ppl who smoked and died as a direct result.In none of the cases did they pass suddenly.The neighbor was dependent on a nebulizer for years, permanently at the end.My mom did not recover after an op since she could not be weened of the respirator quick enough..etc Apart from the immediate effect your smoking has on your ppl, it will effect them at the end, financially and emotionally.Its a selfish addiction,those who react in anger only realize they are too weak to break it
    P 8/28/2008 2:52:32 PM
    I agree that is your choice to smoke - I think it's disgusting but your choice. Thanks to the guys who make an effort not to smoke in our homes, try to not blow the smoke in our directions and don't throw the (still smoking) cig buds out the window. The rest, YOU are the reason that smoking is hated so much!
    Jurie de Villiers 8/28/2008 2:55:15 PM
    Well done. This is probably the most intelligent piece of writing that I've had the pleasure to read in quite some time. While I, myself, am a smoker, I agree with every single point you made wholeheartedly. There is not one smoker on this planet who can honestly say that he/she has never been disgusted by it. Personally I hate it. The smell, the taste, the death stares from non-smokers. That said, keep in mind that it's an addiction which is extremely difficult to beat.
    smokey-smurf 8/28/2008 2:55:27 PM
    Try to get your head around the free market idea. If there was a big enough demand for smoke-free places they would have existed. It is not happening, so maybe the market doesn't agree with you.
    Vicky 8/28/2008 2:57:10 PM
    ppl like me will not consider organ donation, cause ppl like you who KNOWINGLY abuse their organs, unfortunately will be given another chance to re-abuse organs donated!!! Smokers and alcohol abusers should never receive organ donation cause their health issues are self inflicted.
    Camel 8/28/2008 2:57:59 PM
    Good response - well thought out, but I see some still don't get the point. New comment: I agree smoking in public places shoud stop so the public can have access without inhaling poison. Restaurants/bars aren't public places. People can choose not to go to a what is a privately owned place if they don't like the smoke. What is the definition of public place?
    Vicky 8/28/2008 2:58:52 PM
    ppl like me will not consider organ donation, cause ppl like you who KNOWINGLY abuse their organs, unfortunately will be given another chance to re-abuse organs donated!!! Smokers and alcohol abusers should never receive organ donation cause their health issues are self inflicted.
    Eff.Kay 8/28/2008 2:59:05 PM
    Hey GG.. As you may have seen (and likely already know) people will go to extra-ordinary lengths to justify and support an addiction. Nicotine is addictive. All the vitriol from angry and fed up smokers is anger at themselves for getting hooked on what can be called a 'little habit' for the silliest of reasons: looking cool, peer pressure and because advertisers said it was lekker. All the talk of "freedom of choice" is fine except when the spin given is: Freedom to NOT be subjected to smoke.
    Trying to quit ! 8/28/2008 3:02:43 PM
    I've 10 years, at the MOST, left. Look up COPD on the web
    Michael 8/28/2008 3:03:44 PM
    And drop you will!
    mrbig 8/28/2008 3:05:03 PM
    most people are idiots. There's no such thing as logic or reason. So geez people, lighten the hell up! Just don't LIGHT up, your smoke is killing me..
    Smokey Robinson 8/28/2008 3:06:18 PM
    Maybe the problem with your columns are that you always portray yourself as this know-all and do everything right, the perfect specie, always with a large crowd or friends that feels the same as you and you think you can say to anyone and about everything what you like because YOU know..... get the point? Please stop exaggerating - you also have bad habits, maybe you are picking your nose? I am sommer going for a smoke break now, in public because I can not smoke anywhere else!!!
    Riaan 8/28/2008 3:06:40 PM
    You go girl give them hell. I will too. Smoking is disgusting! Kiss a non-smoker! Taste the difference!
    Daniel Smith 8/28/2008 3:07:48 PM
    We are not there to convince you Georgie!
    Kamz 8/28/2008 3:08:56 PM
    ......and if smokers love ciggies so much, why do they insist on throwing them out the car window when they have an ashtray inside the car? I have no problems with smokers. The occasional cigar is great. However, be conscious of the fact that it is harmful and that due consideration should be given to non-smokers. That is all we ask...........and also stop starting bush fires....use your ashtray....
    aj 8/28/2008 3:11:49 PM
    Really agree with your sentiments - but here's a problem, people can't smoke in the shopping mall so they stand right at the entrance (especially staff) and we all get lungs full of smoke as we enter and leave the centres.
    Cynthia 8/28/2008 3:13:40 PM
    I'm a smoker, but non-smokers also have their rights to clean air. It's their choice not to smoke. I always ask if it's ok to smoke when with a group of people and if not I put away the ciggies and deal with it. It's the right thing to do.
    Copper 8/28/2008 3:17:08 PM
    I agree with you 100% - If I'm with a bunch of non-smokers I will go elsewhere or go without for a while. My parents don't smoke (both sides) so I don't smoke in their homes, however, if you don't like smoke or smokers don't walk up to me to chat & expect me to put my smoke out!!! It's not gonna happen, as for Bee don't assume that we are "intellectually challenged" because we defend outselves - insults are not neccessary!
    TB 8/28/2008 3:17:42 PM
    When you & your children visit your smoke free public place, you certainly know smoke won't kill them or you. But do you know how many people you came in contact with are TB or Hepatis free? You cannot smell that, but it can kill you 100 times faster than nicotine. If one is so obsessed with health, do not go out at all, wear protective clothing 24/7 and fumegate your house every day. You will then probably either end up in a nuthouse or die of fright.
    Anonymice 8/28/2008 3:21:05 PM
    And i bet all these people on their high horses think that they dont have some bad habit that irritates the hell out of other people. smoking and drinking have been a part of human civilisation since the dawn of time. its not going to end anytime soon
    Craig 8/28/2008 3:21:35 PM
    Get that smoke out of my face you disgusting pig !!!!
    kam 8/28/2008 3:22:54 PM
    I always take other people in consideration when I smoke. Does that make me a bad person because I'm a smoker? :(
    Win 8/28/2008 3:23:25 PM
    about weed:-) It has medicinal properties doesn't it? Every stoned nut around a braai, or trying to braai...."Dude..you gotta try this weed! Its like heaven dude...oh shit....dude...where's the meat hey?" :-)
    MacFergus 8/28/2008 3:24:20 PM
    Perhaps I'll have a cigarette and mill this one over, or better yet, perhaps I'll just have a cigarette...
    Oom_Kosie 8/28/2008 3:31:18 PM
    It's easy to say "if we all stop eating meat carbon emissions would be reduced by 18%", but here are some things to remember: 1. A lot of the land that is used as grazing land for animals isn't suited to horticultural production. 2. Are we going to kill all the domestic animals all at once when we stop eating meat? If so, how are we going to stop wild animals taking their place and producing just as much CO2 and methane? 3. Where will we get milk from? And for the record, smoking is stupid.

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