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Same-sex marriages 'illogical'
04/10/2006 09:26  - (SA)  

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  • Jon Qwelane

    Our country is once again at a crossroads and there are serious decisions facing us around the question of legislating same-sex marriage. Hopefully it will all be resolved sensibly.

    And at the outset, I might as well state it loud and clear that I am not at all in favour of the mooted same-sex marriages which the constitutional court has ordered parliament to enact, and which would thereby place homosexual unions on exactly the same footing as heterosexual marriages.

    I may as well admit that my stand will, needless to overstate, place me in the firing line for being allegedly “backwards” and “homophobic”. But I will not mind the inevitable vitriol and condemnation as I have weathered much worse in the past, and this is a point I stand by.

    My arguments in objection to same-sex unions are a repeat of what I have said countless times before.

    To date, I have not encountered logical and sensible counter-arguments by those who maintain that a woman should be allowed to marry another woman, and a man be allowed to marry another man.

    All that I have been subjected to so far by these people has been emotionally-charged arguments which often degenerate into personal vilification and insults, but with nothing worthwhile to argue.

    My starting point on this matter is that everyone, including gays and lesbians, is a biological consequence of male and female intercourse. And such intercourse is itself therefore the logical consequence of how nature behaves. In other words, male is meant to mate with female for the procreation of the species.

    'It's unnatural'

    From this simple point and observation, it is rather illogical for same-sex unions to exist, as such arrangements fly in the face of nature.

    Even die-hard lesbians and homosexuals will be hard-pressed to contradict that statement. I have often heard attempts by gays to justify their homosexuality as being repeated elsewhere in the animal kingdom, to “prove” that nature tolerates homosexuality.

    I have heard of certain rams within a type of breed of sheep, and some birds, that do this sort of thing, but this is unnatural and it is not what our constitutional court should be wanting parliament to legislate.

    The second argument against this type of thing is scriptural: not a single religion anywhere condones and accepts homosexuality.

    Some Christians will, obviously scraping at the bottom of their scriptural barrels, meekly point to the tale about the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah to “prove” that homosexuality was practised even in biblical times, but the story will not be complete if they end it there.

    Lot actually did what I doubt any sane and normal father would do. However, so great was his fear of God’s retribution if his visiting male guests were to indulge in homosexuality in his home that Lot offered his virgin daughters to the men to ravage at will. There’s no guessing what common decency, and especially our learned judges of the constitutional court, would rule if they were confronted with a case such as Lot’s, but it does also show how great a sin homosexuality is in God’s eye!

    'I like homosexuals'

    All this in no way says I do not like or respect homosexuals and lesbians as individuals; on the contrary, I do.

    Emotional rubbish such as: “Ja, but what would you say if your son or daughter turned out to be gay? Would you condemn them?”

    My answer is that my offspring are not gay and, so far, neither are any of my nephews and nieces. And a big YES, I would condemn and disown them if they turned out to be homosexuals.

    A very interesting question was asked in one of the letters in the newspapers the other day: “Would married homosexual men be allowed to adopt a girl child, as the law wants them to be accorded every single right enjoyed by heterosexual couples?” Would this girl child be deprived in some way?

    The parliamentarians of South Africa must have enough balls to stand up to this sort of nonsense, and refuse to pass such a law.

    The separation of powers enshrined in the constitution ensures that parliament is a distinct entity from the judiciary; so the lawmakers can at least tell those justices to go fly kites, or indulge in homosexual unions of their own - but leave the rest of us alone.

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      wow
    04/10/2006 09:43
    Luckily parlimetarians are not as ignorant as you - save for our beloved minister of health and our former deputy president. I'm sure you all have lots to talk about at your monthly meetings on how to shape South Africa gloriously in the form of our neighbour Zimbabwe! I wish that one of your children is born gay, then we can discuss this further. - Dylan
     
      breeders
    04/10/2006 09:53
    In unsophisticated backwaters mating is just that - breeding. In societies with some culture, relationships transcend the animal-like need to seed. These are usually the same cultures where killing someone for a cell-phone is also not seen too often. - costas
     
      Let them be!
    04/10/2006 09:54
    Jon, i dont agree with the concept of same sex marraige as you rightly point out that it is unnatural and from a christian perspective a sin. However I do believe that our constitution is enshrined with democratic principles which respects others beliefs and orientations, so long as they dont violate the rights of others. I therefore disagree with you in so far as denying these people their rights. Let them have their civil unions, so long it is not called marraige. - MOR
     
      See no evil, hear no evil
    04/10/2006 10:03
    Preventing gay marriages will not prevent gay relationships. It is unconstitutional to discriminate against people based on sexual preference or identification with a certain group. Why can married couples inherit and have financial perks while gay couples cannot? If it?s actual gay sex you are against, think again. Many straight people have gay sex on the side. They are not judged for it in the eyes of the law so why should openly homosexual people be? - Naz
     
      I Agree
    04/10/2006 10:03
    I agree with you Jon,it is unnatural and i dont think gay parents can raise children properly.Thr child will confused from the outset!And surely the queston of "where did i come from" will arise. I have no problem with gays but I do with them raising children! - Ray
     
      Get a life!
    04/10/2006 10:09
    Illogical??.. Dear Sir, do yourself a favour and read a dictionary from time to time. Comparing humans to animals, now that is illogical. Rather have a child remain an orphan than experience a life with two loving parents?. that is illogical (and not to mention sad!!) . Now why don?t you run along and write another discriminating column? maybe you can write a lovely article about why women should remain the lesser of the species, or why it is ok to beat your wife is she doesn?t do what you expect her to do. Or even better, why it is ok to rape, afterall you are the superior being in this tale, aren?t you? - Horrified
     
      Logical?
    04/10/2006 10:12
    By this logic, would heterosexual couples who married with no intention of procreating also be illogical and should be permitted from doing so by law? - Caroline
     
      its a shame
    04/10/2006 10:12
    it seems our democracy came with lots of rights for everyone, muderers,rapists and all things that are cruel and also unnatural as gays and lesbians. - lwazi
     
      RE: wow
    04/10/2006 10:15
    Dylan by your response I quesing you are gay. Sorry buddy. The main problem I have with your response is that it contains no counter argument for what Jon has said or motivation for this nonsence. Gay is not natural. - Thor
     
      why such a big deal?!
    04/10/2006 10:18
    i'm sorry but maybe i'm the ignorant one and gay man myself - i really dont see what the big deal is. We are the same as everybody else, we just love differently. Why such a big deal about marraige? Why cant we get married? It will in no shape or form impact on anybody's lives apart the couples who decide to take that step. Its not that every gay man and woman will run to do it... just give us the choice. That is what makes us human after all - the ability to choose. Why deny us that right? - ollie
     
      Wise Words
    04/10/2006 10:18
    "If you believe that discrimination exists, it will" Anthony J. D'Angelo - YoBo
     
         
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