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happy easter
24/03/2008 08:51
Just a quick question Jon. While you were praying for all of the racists, did you pray for the black racists as well as the white ones? - LILO |
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Column
24/03/2008 08:51
I never read a more boring column than this one. Luckily a keybord has a down button. Maybe I am not on your high intellectual level. Check columns written by the columnists for The Star and up your game a bit.... - Mark Matthews |
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chipper
24/03/2008 08:52
Jees, but you have a massive chip on your shoulder. - Joquim |
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Confused
24/03/2008 08:52
I'm a little confused.... you talk about wanting debate and discussion, yet anyone who differs with your opinion you lambaste and call racist. I take issue with you on many things, but I am certainly not racist having a black adopted son. And as a Christian, I think you have something to learn about humility. To be honest, I don't think you are showing Christian values in this column at all - but that is merely my opinion.... A non-racist opinion expressed by a white middle-aged South African. - Alan |
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PLEASE let this be the only comment
24/03/2008 08:55
on this forum. Here this guy goes again, calling everybody but himself a racist, to name but just one thing he gets wrong, as he does every week. Please lets all ignore him and NOT comment on this forum and hopefully he will go away. - White Coconut |
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Farisite
24/03/2008 08:59
And just this very morning I read Luke 18:11 and my goodness, when I read your article I immediately recognised just whom you are! - kobus |
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RACIST
24/03/2008 09:04
What is a racist? - Roeks |
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Huh?
24/03/2008 09:05
Are you the same JQ that called black people that just want to get along with white people "coconuts"? A true Christian does not insult people. A true Christian has love in his/her heart. A true Christian does not judge. A true Christian has God's love shining through. That said, I do hope you really are a Christian. Remember, it's not your skin colour that counts, but what's inside that skin that counts! Happy Easter & God bless! - Chantelle |
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This is one man's point of view - not a DEBATE!
24/03/2008 09:20
It is impossible to have a proper debate on a subject raised in a column when the columnist pre-empts the responses - and passes comment before he has read them! Jon, there are many of us who would and do agree with you - when we are able to sift out the gist of your debateable subject! This article is not the subject of a debate, it is your attempt to provide a controversial column which will pay for your Easter! - Terry |
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Jon, you're right, people are in denial...
24/03/2008 09:20
and you need to practice what you preach. Anyone who disagrees with what you have to say, is either a racist or a coconut - depending on the colour of their skin. In this column you quote the single line that made any sense whatsoever in your torrent of racist drivel last week. Right now this country needs debate, but at the moment, people are in serious denial - and with that I mean ALL people. I will be praying for your soul too Jon. - Dread |
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Ignore him
24/03/2008 09:29
He's desperate now. Just ignore him and he'll go away. - B |
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Jon Q
24/03/2008 09:30
I quickly scanned through the article to see what it was about. The chip on your shoulder is still there. The article, well, ZZZZzzzzzz....... - Gus |
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denials
24/03/2008 09:30
Maybe Jon, you're the one who's in denial regarding your own interpretation of events. Anyone who disagrees with, or challenges you, is a bigoted racism. Of course racism is only whites against blacks, we know that from the selection of the cricket team where a white man has been excluded (and it's been officially explained) by virtue of the colour of his skin. Had this happened the other way around, the Proteas would probably be outlawed by the ICC on the grounds of racism. Think about it!!! - Megan |
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Denials, demials
24/03/2008 09:42
Jon why do you waiste your breath by responding to the people commenting on these forums? From what I have read in comments on your columns and all the others for that matter, 99% of them do not know the meaning of debate and its anyhow always the same immature old bunch throwing the same old toys out the cot all the time. (Their toys must be all broken by now.) - Tina |
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Debate
24/03/2008 09:51
Come on Jon. Calling everyone racists. What do the missionaries say? "Remove the bulk from your own eye first". - Sinudeity |
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Hi Jon
24/03/2008 09:52
A sad, but truthful way to start a new week. Thank you.
It's so sad, when one is trying to put a heartfelt point accross, something so true to your ideas and feelings...and then the condemnation. No. 1. Your a racist, 2. It's all because of the Apartheid Regime..the Boer War!! Hell!
It feels useless when I, for one, and you are trying to come to grips with the problems in our country... but every topic, even if one would say "the wind is blowing to day" becomes a war of namecalling & drivel. - Alicia |
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Denials, denials, denials
24/03/2008 09:52
Hi Jon, I could not put your article in proper context as I did not read the comments that upset you. However you seem to be doing the same thing you are accusing others of doing. If we open our ideas to the public domain we must expect reactions that don't fit our version of the debate rules. I think I understand what you mean, but then I refer to my second sentence again.
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Tired Jon
24/03/2008 09:53
Jon i think that as soon as South Africans recognize that racism exists in all of us, the sooner we will come to terms with ourselves. What we need to focus on is bigotry; the thing that turns racism into something ugly and unacceptable. Read your own collumn with an unbiased eye and you will find that you yourself are spewing forth drivel that generates hate based on race ........
You are tired Jon - time to hang up your pen and retire greacefully ..... - chris |
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RE: Johan Qwelane (PT.1)
24/03/2008 09:54
John, I read your article and re-read it a second time. I disconnected and pondered on your words, I was not going to comment but then I felt I needed too. My brother who gives you the right to call people racists if they don't listen to your words?Sure, they may insult you but this is only because they felt insulted in the first place, thats what you don't get and never will.It's not denialism, don't stoop to such levels.If your message was conveyed in a more civil/amicable way maybe people..... - Glenn |
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Denials, denials, denials
24/03/2008 09:55
I like your thinking! - Dirk Raath |
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Are you actually here?
24/03/2008 09:55
Jon, if must be nice to live in a land of one. Your views and comments (Extremely funny) are only topped by the real and actual views (Real people) of the people commenting on you articles.
News24 should let you comment on thier arctiles in future!!! - Andrew |
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Waste of bandwidth... please do something, News24
24/03/2008 09:58
I guess it must hurt when the overwhelming majority of readers call drivel. The real journalist would respond with a clever, cutting piece to engage his reader's attention again. Devoting an entire column evidently to lament not damning them all to hell is just sad and rather crass. I will not be stopping by here again. - rg |
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what a joke
24/03/2008 09:58
Jon, u r such a hypocrit. Should I spot all the emails you send me, containing so much profanity, hate and racism, then you want us to believe that you "imbued with charitable values on which U was raised". Please Jon, pull the other one, you have no values so dont make me laugh. - Houston |
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RE: John Qwelane (PT.2)
24/03/2008 09:58
would respond and debate in a more amicable/civil way???I have read every one of your columns and I get the impression that you are not consistent in your views but you are consistent in potraying racist undertones.Not to say that you are racist, but why does everything that you write potray racism as a white on black thing?Why can't you write about the black on white racism?Or are you one of those who believe it can only be one way traffic?This is where I believe the problem lies... - Glenn |
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Jon
24/03/2008 10:02
Jon, You're speaking about insults and abuse... who was the guy who called his fellow journalists "coconuts" when they disagreed with him? Was that a rational and intelligent response? You're the leader when it comes to insults and abuse. When you talk so much nonsense, of course people stop listening to you. No-one takes you seriously anymore... we just have fun with you. - Hildegard |
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Denials, denials, denials
24/03/2008 10:03
I can't help but wonder who is in denial here. The people reading and reacting to this weekly article, or the guy calling everyone a racist who disagree with his point of view.
It's a pity you didn't pray for that big chip on your shoulder to be healed. Maybe that would have helped you writing some respectable articles in the future. - Leopolt |
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There is no hell...
24/03/2008 10:03
...the concept of "hell" was created in the middle ages to scare the uneducated mob into submitting themselves to their church masters.
;) - Gustav |
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Debate of the deaf
24/03/2008 10:03
Jon Qwelane's column is possibly the most honest reflection of the true state of our society. Of the reasonable debate he describes there is none to be seen. Many of his readers are indeed deaf to reasoned arguments he sometimes offers. But likewise, Qwelane is deaf to reasoned arguments offered by many of his readers. This page reflects the escence of the South African disourse. History shows that this deafness is not likely to be resolved except by bloodshed. - Another one |
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Jon's denials
24/03/2008 10:07
Jon, It doesn't matter what you or anyone else has to say about the state of things in South Africa the fact of the matter is the country is going to be Hell on earth in the near future.At least forums like this allows people to vent there anger about all the nonsence going on in the counrty. - Mike |
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People are people because of other people
24/03/2008 10:07
uMuntu ngumuntu ngabantu Jon - you need to make more effort to understand where these people are coming from if you write about them and to them daily. Calling them racist is too simplistic and you are a better journalist than that. Get into their skin, understand their fears and hopes and frustrations - then you will really write provocative stuff. At the moment, you aren't even scratching the skin and your articles aren't much better than the spiteful hysterics below - Craig |
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Prayer
24/03/2008 10:10
"On Good Friday I found myself praying for the souls of the many bigots and blinkered racists who usually post hundreds of poisoned missives at the bottom of the internet version of this column."
That's nice because I found myself praying for the soul of the singly bigoted and blinkered racist who posts one poisoned missive at the top of this internet column! - Billy Bob |
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Get a life.
24/03/2008 10:14
You say you are a Christian and you are not a racist. Act like it. Your should not be looking at other peoples faults and should be trying to fix your own faults (Read The Bible). Once again you have nothing to say except blame the rest of the world for your problems (Everyone who disagrees with you is a racist). Blah Blah Blah. If you are not part of the solution go to Zimbabwe where you can be part of the racist problem. - Mark |
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Now, you are learning
24/03/2008 10:16
Isn't odd that these are the very same people who support your column when it attacks president Mbeki? They love you when you do a hatched job for them in attacking your own, but they do not want you to even discuss the issue of their racism, let alone their bigotry, hatred and me me me first attitude. We worry about while fears, but never seem capable of addressing black concerns - Len van Heerden |
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Pseudo intellectual trash
24/03/2008 10:16
Hi Jon
I deliberately do not read articles like yours or listen to the abundant inane radio talk shows as they simply serve to further polarise a South Africa full of the most beautiful and diverse cultures. Your mindless articles and the pathetic excuses for talk shows demonstrate a lack of mental evolution and finesse. There is nothing subtle or challenging in what you or the talk show hosts offer. It is simple pseudo intellectual trash. Be a man - Rise above it!! Please - Garrrick |
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JQ racist drivel, again
24/03/2008 10:17
JQ, you seem to have a bad memory to go with your lack of intelligence. Your last article was racist drivel about the issue you had with too many white journalists. It had stuff al to do with Isreal, the UK and USA. - Dries |
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Debate of the deaf (2)
24/03/2008 10:24
In my previous contribution on under this title, I show that this debate of hate can only be resolved in bloodshed. Let us not be naive: Since 1994 our "National Democratic Revolution" has resulted in about the same number of South Africans to be brutaly killed as in the French revolution. (By similar means and circumstances too.) The way in which Qwelane and his readers kill one another's thoughts in this debate just reflects the way South Africans are killing one another at night. - Another one |
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Jesus loves you
24/03/2008 10:28
As a born again, spirit filled Christian since 5 July 1987, it has been my experience for the past 20 years that the more intimate my relationship with God becomes, the more my compassion for people grows.
We serve an awesome, extraordinary God whose kindness and mercy is endless. Jon, my suggestion to you is that you humble yourself and ask our precious Lord to show you your own heart. Then maybe the hatred and bitterness that people are reacting to in your column will stop. - Jesus is King |
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Praying
24/03/2008 10:29
Did you also pray for the COCONUTS Jon? Did you also pray for the Black Journalists Forum Jon? Did you also pray for Ekhuruleni Metro Police Jon? Did you also pray for Eskom Jon? God knows Thabo Mbeki good do with a few prayers right now... Or is it just your perverse fixation with White People and the devils we are? - Mickey |
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wow
24/03/2008 10:30
Wow Jon - my ears are ringing from the vibrant sound of your trumpet. - sheila |
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Hmmmmmm....
24/03/2008 10:30
Pot.....kettle.....black. Jon, Jon, Jon, "Insulting at personal level" yet YOU were the one who labled non-racist blacks "Coconuts"? And funny how you now make out your own columns to be oh so cute and innocent, in the mean time it was YOUR columns that was full of racism, the rest of us "bigots" were just pointing out this fact. - J.O |
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Denials
24/03/2008 10:33
Well John, I think the person that is the most in denial, is you.
And don't tell me you are never abusive - telling someone that they can't debate and is in denial, is a form of abuse.
Don't worry, I'm praying that you will be saved too. - Rudolf Rose |
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MLK
24/03/2008 10:34
SA needs a non racist, all inclusive "think tank" to devise, develop and implement a successful and prosperous future for our beloved country. Your words inspire debate that is at times unhealthy. You are an intelligent man with a public platform which should be used wisely and not divisibly. To paraphrase Haile Selassie (1968), who in turn quoted Marley,"when the colour of a man's skin is as important as the colour of his eyes, then you are no longer a racist" Peace & Light to all who love SA - Ray |
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who's the racist?
24/03/2008 10:36
'Because all your missionaries and theologians told us there was?' Who's 'your?', us whites? Jon, don't you find it interesting that after everyone of your columns there are over 150 negative comments about your article? Yet, we're all wrong? You're always right? If this was a vote you'd be out, we live in a democracy my boy. Majority rules.
Jon, try this - write something nice about South Africa and try not blaming everything on the whites, then see the response. you'll be surprised.. - Mark |
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racism racism racism
24/03/2008 10:45
Hi John
I like reading your columns, they are often intriguing and shows that you can in fact voice your on opinion on a popular news website.
I however disagree with the fact that every week your column has to be about racism and your criticism of the minority of racists that still inhabit South Africa. Concerning this week's article, I ask myself, is this story in the public interest, does it inform me in any way? - Chris |
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Not just a river in Egypt
24/03/2008 10:52
Where was your sense of debate when you were calling fellow journalists "Coconuts" for not agreeing with the Forum of Black Journalists excluding whites?
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Food for thought Jon:
24/03/2008 10:53
"Be the change you want to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi - Anon |
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What's new?
24/03/2008 11:05
Jon Qwelane = David Bullard. The only difference, DB insults black people only while JQ insults blacks & whites. That is a sad state of our columnits. Its funny how Jon Qwelane becomes a "hero" to whites when he insults our President. - Z |
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Denials, denials
24/03/2008 11:21
I'll return to a theme I visited during your last invective Jon, why not worry about the more poignant issues? You may think all us white people are racist and incomparably useless. Why not though focus on the failings of your black brothers in the ANC, crime, mainly perpetrated by blacks, Mugabe's evil regime and the thousands of emaciated kids throughout Africa who rely on white, western charity to survive. Probably the whites fault though. - Arnna |
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none so blind as those who will not see...
24/03/2008 11:23
Jon, you look but you do not see. You hear, but you do not listen. As it is written: There are none so deaf as those who will not hear, or blind as those who will not see... - Dirk |
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Blind
24/03/2008 11:29
Denialists? This coming from the same man who proclaims Mama 'the terrorist hooker' Jackie and JZ innocent. - Jay Que |
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Lets get rid of JQ
24/03/2008 11:30
Guys, please understand, News24 measures the success of their columnists by the number of reactions they get. By continuously reacting to JQ's moronic ponderings, you are merely encouraging him to talk more crap each time. Jon knows full well that he needs to get a rise out of us in order to maintain his position. If nobody reacts to his drivel, the News 24 editors will not be able to justify keeping him around. Lets get rid of this idiot once and for all by ignoring him. - Mike |
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Chuckles
24/03/2008 11:36
Jon I have to admit that I seldom agree with you but you manage to consistently poke sticks into a hornet's nest. Your skin must rival a rhino's to stand up to the arrows aimed at you. Thanks for the above - your second last paragraph almost left me rolling in the aisles with mirth. Who lied indeed. Cheers till next week. - Wayne |
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Prayers
24/03/2008 11:42
Please, all of us who believe in God, any God, let us all pray for Zimbabwe and it's people this week. Their plight is so much worse than ours, with a Devil as a Dictator, fighting like only devils can to hold on to power.
A brother of a friend of mine tells us that there, they live in a rural area, is absolutely nothing to eat. Not in the shops, and not in the fields.
Pray that they attain freedom from this evil man who has made a mockery of democrary and has killed and tortured so many. - Alicia |
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Stop blaiming the world for your inability
24/03/2008 11:46
Jon, please stop trying to justify your inability to be unbiased, truthful and non-rascist when clearly the problem lies with you and only you.
If you feel most people read your column in the wrong light, and judging on the weekly comments they do, then you should look at yourself and not blame others.
Your hipocracy knows no bounds. - Johan |
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Denials etc.
24/03/2008 11:56
Jon, what started as a chip has grown to a forest. Why the hatred regarding white people? Or are you deliberately provocative in order to inflame tensions between the races and encourage vigorous debate. - Annabelle |
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Welcome to the internet
24/03/2008 12:07
This is the net Jon. It's all interactive and collaborative. You don't seem to understand your medium or your audience. This is not very clever. They regard you work to be crap, they make fun of you.... Please be a little more creative. You talk about important stuff and your method is doing more harm than good even if not so intended. - Frank Talk |
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