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Setting the record straight
12/05/2008 08:46  - (SA)  

Jon Qwelane

The usual slew of totally mindless and unintelligent responses which often follow the online version of this column, came to the fore again last week.

I usually choose not to respond; but I will this time, if only to set the record straight - though I doubt if it will make any difference to people who seem to have made a life-long resolution to remain stubbornly blind to the realities of life in this country.

Many people repeat the question, regarding my disclosure that I have never voted again after 1994 and most likely will never vote again: "What is the point (of the article, and presumably of not voting)?"

Others, like Clare and Jim, tell me (falsely, of course) that by not voting I "have no right to complain" or that I "immediately lose the right to criticise any politician" blah blah.

That sentiment is echoed by one Jeremy; if it is the one I know and once worked with, then David Bullard's compatriot displays the cheek and arrogance of a real colonial bossy type - because I do not vote, he feels I "have a hell of a lot to say about this country"!

A certain JTA has the infernal impudence to tell me that I "don't belong in this country"! My parents, grandparents and all my forebears never "came" to this country, and I am a full South African - I never qualify myself as "third or fifth generation South African".

Reasonable respondents

Damn it, man, this is MY country whether you like it or not!

To all these pathetic sorts, I invoke the liberty of quoting JP's wise and truly intelligent response:

"The entire point of a free country is that you are free to choose what to do. Choosing not to vote is a valid choice too. As soon as you are forced to pick one of the corrupt politicians then you are no longer in a free country. Just because you chose the third option does not negate your right to complain. I doubt that most of the posters here would understand this as I have very little faith in their intellectual capacity." - JP

Thanks JP, I could not have expressed it better myself! Thank you.

There have also been truly reasonable respondents, like Daryl Naidoo, Alicia and Gail, who note: "Where is it written that one loses the right to criticise or disagree if one doesn't vote? Jon is entitled to his opinion - that is democracy." Exactly, Gail.

Then pathetic George could not hold back his shameful ignorance; the man cannot read and understand simple English, and has the arrogant audacity to think he can correct me! He clearly does not understand the sentence he so foolishly tries to mock: Quote "SACP Secretary-general Chris Hani had just visited before he was murdered by crazed white racists a year earlier, had been turned into a polling station." Learn to Engleesh deliciously spokes you moron - George.

It was yet another week for pompous idiots to display without any feelings of shame their unflattering talent.

I had mentioned Eugene TerreBlanche's murderous sortie to Mafikeng, where he and his louts butchered some 55 innocent and unarmed people, and said it was "a crime for which they were never punished", and I stand completely by that.

There is an idiomatic expression that in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. Uselessly defending TerrBlanche, King Joe weighed in with this momentous lecture: "Oh, and that jazz about Eugene Terreblance not being punished? Where do you get your facts man? He is in jail since he was convicted, and won't get out unless he is in a body bag. He got what he deserved..." - Joe.

The point of the article

Your majesty, you are wrong. I get my facts from being very smart, and reading as well as following events. TerreBlanche is not in jail and, anyway, he was convicted for bludgeoning a petrol attendant with a blunt instrument - the man is now paralysed, and has lost his speech and sense of coherence - but neither ET nor his sodden slobs were ever convicted for the slaughter in Mafikeng.

And what was the point of the article? Anybody with enough brains to fill a teaspoon would have read early in the article that I decried the absence of the freedom which April 27 1994 had promised, that we were not what Desmond Tutu called "the rainbow people of God".

Why did I stop voting? My reasons are, and not necessarily in this order: the complete abandonment of the noble principles which the struggle against injustice was founded upon; the greed and corruption of the ruling party, prompting Tutu to lament very early on that "they stopped the gravy train only long enough that they should get on board"; the murders and rapes of babies, with the state doing nothing about the horrific crimes, the murders of farmers, and the state's totally useless campaign to restore stolen land to its historical and indigenous owners.

  • Jon Qwelane's column is published each week on News24, courtesy of Jon Qwelane and the editor of Sunday Sun, which originally carried the article.

    Send your comments to Jon.

    Disclaimer: News24 encourages freedom of speech and the expression of diverse views. The views of columnists published on News24 are therefore their own and do not necessarily represent the views of News24.

     
     

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      IDIOT
    12/05/2008 09:03
    The fact that you "THINK" that your forebears "never "came" to this country" shows that you don't even know your OWN history. Yet you have sooo much to say. When did you become Khoi or San? You are just as "unindiginous" as David Bullard. BTW does that make all immigrants "illegal" and should they be voiceless? Where would that put someone like... Barrack Obama? - Dries
     
      Is this a Collumn?
    12/05/2008 09:08
    Does your commenting on a previous collumn actually count as an article? Do you get full pay for this? - Nanker Phelje
     
      News 24 please sack this clown!
    12/05/2008 09:13
    All he does is keep stirring the racism pot! - JK
     
      Democracy
    12/05/2008 09:16
    There are other alternative liberation movements which you can vote for, such as Azapo and PAC. The majority of our people are also fustrated with the government about the slow pace of land redistribution and the issue of reparation. I will continue voting for ANC and so do the majority although I am still fustrated with the slow pace of transformation and the snail pace of AA & EE in major companies. - Calvin Mkhize
     
      Respond Immediately...
    12/05/2008 09:17
    Why cant you respond to comments immediately like Chris Roper..because you are ranting around the same topic for four weeks sometimes...Just log in and respond immediately that cannot be difficult..I am sure that your sunday newspaper readers are getting confused with the your constant responses to News24 users... - Kolobe
     
      Right on, Jon!
    12/05/2008 09:17
    I've never read your column before, basically because because I find racist claptrap (from both sides) depressing, and always thought you were blindly pro the ANC no matter what. (Dunno why - and sorry!)But hey, you brightened my Monday morning with your last paragraph. It's seemed to me that a popular view is 'it's OK to do wrong if you're Black, because of the struggle.' But wrong is wrong, no matter what. Full stop. So thanks for saying what you did. - Doug
     
      Last paragraph
    12/05/2008 09:19
    The last paragraph you wrote is what was missing from last week's column. That is why everyone was asking...! Don't act so indignant if the previous one didn't make full sense. - MJ
     
      Load of crap as usual
    12/05/2008 09:19
    If I had to pay to read your column , I would not have taken out 5 cents for it ,.,... - charlie
     
      were you not batting for Mugabe the other day?
    12/05/2008 09:20
    I quote from your article aboce "As soon as you are forced to pick one of the corrupt politicians" Why did you defend him from the brittish? Is he not corrupt? you defend a mindless leader like him from leaders that make sure their people have food??? Yet you wont VOTE in your own country? You're a NOOB! - jon
     
      Jon, ignore these bitter apartheid children!
    12/05/2008 09:21
    Jeeesshhh, Why did you have to write this column Jon? You really didn't have to. You only succeeded in getting more hate drivel from idiots who read here. Listen, most of readers here are bitter white children who hate the black government with passion and have painted their glasses with that hatred. When you say this, they will say that, when you say that, they will say this. Ba tlogele rra o tswe mo bone! - Sello
     
      dont know
    12/05/2008 09:25
    John you made good points last week. Democracy does mean you dont have to vote. Dries is also right in that you are not originally from here. Are you aware of that history? Your folks probably pitched here only a couple of centuries before me but you pull 'diknek'? Does the country not belong to all who love it and stick around to see it work? - bhs
     
      mud hut mentality
    12/05/2008 09:25
    Jon, your opinions and arrogance belong in a mud hut. The fact that you resort to name calling to compile a shaky-at-best column speaks volumes about your intelligence and ability as a journalist. Better you go sit on your stoep and light up another of those 'twaks' that form pictures in your mind. You're a disgrace to our profession. - ian e
     
      Wrong Jon...
    12/05/2008 09:26
    You said "Damn it, man, this is MY country whether you like it or not!" You should have a think about that a little Jon. It's actually "OUR" country... "whether YOU like it or not" Another person who makes statements like that is hopefully going to get voted out by the MDC. - Nick
     
      AND?
    12/05/2008 09:26
    Your point? is this really the calibre of journalism we can expect from you? self-defence? I don't read your articles, due to the crap i am so often advised to avoid, you have proved the point of YOUR conspirators. Get a life. - Greg
     
      Last Paragraph
    12/05/2008 09:26
    Your last paragraph is the first and only sense you have made in more than 2 months of writing! Keep up the good work?! - Dup
     
      Jon
    12/05/2008 09:27
    If you want people not to comment on your articles just STOP writing. As much as you think its your right to comment/complain about the happens on our country, EVERYBODY has the right to comment about your PUBLIC views. Is it too difficult for you to understand that? Coming to think of it, WHY columnist turn to think they are ALWAYS right? - Z
     
      Jon
    12/05/2008 09:30
    This country does not belong to anyone Jon, it belongs to the planet. It saddens me when I see people claiming this country as theirs. We merely have been given an opportunity to live on this planet and when we die our off spring enjoy the fact that they are part of this planet. And so life goes on. No one created the land that is South Africa so let's stop claiming it as our own and play nice and let everyone who want's to live here live here in peace and unilty. Those who don't can leave. - Point Blank
     
      Non-voting?
    12/05/2008 09:31
    Maybe JQ has a point - and maybe they should change the electoral laws - so that if a certain percentage of ballots were spoiled, there would have to be a re-election? The ideal would be a 'none of the above' square on the ballot paper. That way we could make our mark, expressing a 'vote of no confidence' in any of the candidates. - Yeti
     
      Not voting
    12/05/2008 09:31
    Not voting can also be viewed as a vote. - Keith
     
      Qwelane lost it.. again
    12/05/2008 09:34
    This is the most pathetic excuse for an 'article' i've ever seen in my life. I think the blame now goes to news24 for publishing this snot. P.s. Jon, "being smart and reading"? Really, you think your smart? he he! at least you managed to throw in a joke - Econ
     
      Qwelane
    12/05/2008 09:34
    Does calling people pathetic and ignorant, and referring to them as morons, idiots and louts make youfeel better? I notice you consider yourself to be 'very smart'- not something one would be inclined to believe after reading a few of your 'columns'. - SF
     
      Why?
    12/05/2008 09:34
    I want to know why my comments about why I feel News24 does not take action is not getting published. Jon Qwelani is a racist and by paying him to continue to write this anti-white propaganda, you are admitting that this is the sentiment of a democratic news service. I urge all user to boycott this service until action is taken. If nothing will be posted on here, I will take these comments to other social networks - Danny
     
      Oh brother!!
    12/05/2008 09:35
    Jon Qwelane, at it again!!!!!!! I predict that you will start losing readers from here on out. You try to keep them reading by provoking them. Rather sooner than later they will start losing interest and you will go even further to keep them. This is the last article from you that I will ever read. You will again cross the line exactly the way you did a few weeks ago in that mindless article your idiot editors had published. Life has this way of sorting out people. Good luck!! - Herman van der Merwe
     
      Jon...
    12/05/2008 09:35
    There is a certain segment of white population with a certain level of intelect whose buttons you have learned to press properly. They are so predictable in their responses, it is quite depressing - as they give me and mine a bad name. I may not always agree with you, but I will always agree with your right an opinon. - greggo
     
      Jokerman
    12/05/2008 09:37
    What a joke... :-) - you like stirring Jono my angry little man, just ignore him people... - Vanessa
     
      Racist
    12/05/2008 09:38
    Jon people don't like you! You have proven yourself countless number of times to preach racism. Your snide swipes at anyone who doesn't agree with you are a waste of time - we see through you. You stance on numerous subjects and the pathectic lies on your defence at the Black Journalists Forum are enough to warrant peoples distaste for you... - Craig
     
      To vote, or...
    12/05/2008 09:39
    I don't vote, never have, never will, not under the current circumstances in any event. Much for the same reason Jon mentioned above. Also pretty much the reason why I refuse to go to certain church congregations, including the one I grew up with. Simply because my support, whether in person or through a cross on a piece of paper means I will fight tooth and nail to uphold the ideals of those I have put my weight behind. My name means something, if only to me. - Morne
     
      Totally mindless and unintelligent?
    12/05/2008 09:42
    Why, that describes you to a tee, my boy! - Sizwe
     
      To vote or not to vote? that is the question.
    12/05/2008 09:42
    Wow, I have hit the bigtime. Jon mentioned me by name. I will now bath in the self indulgent fame that he claims for himself. I stand by my point that by not voting or taking any action you are playing the fiddle while Rome burns. Please join the ANC, become elected to the NEC, they won't take me. Then change the organisation from the inside. That is how you will improve SA. Not by condemning people with a different thought process. - Jim
     
      Same old stuff as always
    12/05/2008 09:42
    How blind are you to the realities of the country? You surely don't live in a shack, where you live in constant fear. Have you even ever been a victim of crime in OUR country? Wouldn't you say that this is actually EVERYBODY'S country and not YOURS? Please accept that some people will disagree with what you say. It's got nothing to do with the fact that you are black. Stop using the colour of your skin as shield. Some people just don't agree with the crap that you write each week. Deal with it! - Francois
     
      @ Jon
    12/05/2008 09:43
    Your article has just proved what an idiot you actually are! - AB
     
      Ignore him, just hit on his pockets
    12/05/2008 09:43
    People why are you even bothering responding to Qwelane. Give him the silence then you will hit him where it hurts most and he wont have any readers, which equals to less advertising revenue for his sponsors. Then the massess would have won. So mina i say just ignore him..... Cebs - Cebza
     
      The Truth
    12/05/2008 09:45
    You against corruption but i remember you once agreeing disbanding the scorpions because its form and driven by a aparthied force.Nothing wrong if you show your support for Zuma. - the future
     
      to the editor
    12/05/2008 09:45
    whats the point of all this? this dose not create intelligent debate. the columnist has obviously passed his sell by date, are you so starved of intellectual writers that you have to continuously eek out this drivel? - Luke
     
      What?
    12/05/2008 09:46
    Is this the best column he could come up with. I would be pist off if I bought the Sunday times and had to read this crap. PS. Sello go mind your fire behind the hut, I think its dying. - LM
     
      to the editor
    12/05/2008 09:46
    whats the point of all this? this dose not create intelligent debate. the columnist has obviously passed his sell by date, are you so starved of intellectual writers that you have to continuously eek out this drivel? - Luke
     
      Pathetic
    12/05/2008 09:47
    Eish Jonboy, is this journalism? Pathetic. Give you something and you break it. Just like your right to vote. - Whitie
     
      What's the difference between Mugabe and Jon
    12/05/2008 09:47
    I guess every village has one...idiot. You are one and will always remain one despite your many articles to unsuccessfully disprove this. Why do they pay you for your primary school racist drivel. I wouldn't employ you as my gardener.. - Michael
     
      Sello
    12/05/2008 09:48
    Bitter white children??? WTF, you've got it all wrong. I can only summise that you're either ignorant or choose only to read the "biiter white children" comments. Jon Q, you were obviously out of ideas for your column hence this commentary instead. In future if you would like to address a comment do so like the majority of other columnists and don't leave it for a week. - John Camp
     
      Dear Jon Qwelane
    12/05/2008 09:49
    I have finally realised who/what you are. You are a small man with the uncanny ability to stir k@k using big words. You must lead a pointless life, because you don't know where you came from or where you're going. Because of this you think people are intellectually inferior to you when they choose to differ from your skew outlook on life and its twists and turns. - Francois Roux
     
      Think
    12/05/2008 09:49
    I know realize that I am probably wasting my time but when will we all be judged according to our actions and not those of your ancestors? when will be start teaching our children to take accountability for their own actions? I am sick and tired of people judging me by my skin colour and attacking my race because of forefathers I never even knew! I have done nothing to you! I have never racially attacked any of you and I have always believed this country can be better why can't you! - Me
     
      Read between the lines people!!!
    12/05/2008 09:49
    I think Jon is one brilliant columnist that is never understood, I laughed when reading how he defends himself only to end on a positive note. Anyone who would have read his articles before will realise that Jon is a different person than he would otherwise like us to believe. I will never view his articles like most people do, I will read between the lines, and that's what he wants us to do. Don't fall in his trap, that's his intention to get our blood boiling and start debating issues of common interest. - Libembe
     
      Rewriting history I see...
    12/05/2008 09:50
    The Nguni people (of which all S.A. tribes are descended)migrated slowly south from central africa over time, and only arrived in what is now South Africa a relatively short time before Jan van Riebeeck settled at the Cape. Besides, there were no Bantu tribes to be found west of the Kei river until the early 1800's. The Dutch were in the Western Cape long before any Bantu people were. Now there's a thought! Only the Khoi & San peoples can call themselves truly indigenous to South Africa... - Clint
     
      The only mindless and unintelligent words...
    12/05/2008 09:52
    ... come straight out of your mouth Jon. Calling me a racist isn't going to change what a bafoon you are. - MikeT
     
      Sorry John
    12/05/2008 09:52
    You will never please everybody John, just leave it. - Lisa
     
      The saying
    12/05/2008 09:53
    Jon i don't think is a good think,to choose not to vote it indicate being a low key guy who is perplexed and scared of making a choice you are a cowered you know the saying safe in numbers if you pro ANC you suppose to be a team player add you vote,by the way you need therapy - thabo
     
      JQ paid for this?
    12/05/2008 09:55
    Where can I apply for a job like JQ's? Please, News24, I need cash and I promise I can write the same kind of absolute dribble. - Werner
     
      Jon please stop it?
    12/05/2008 09:56
    Jon, by attacking the people who comment on your column, you are as bad as any of them. By that logic you are "totally mindless and unintelligent", "stubbornly blind to the realities of life in this country", "a pathetic sort" and "a pompous idiot".. All your words. As a 20yr white student who is amazed daily at the sense of forgiveness by the people who lived through Apartheid, I have no respect for you and your bitter views. Not every black man is Mandela? Well not every white man is Vorster.. - Mark
     
      JQ...
    12/05/2008 09:56
    I think logic must prevail at the end of the day, the choice to vote or not to vote is a democratic right and a logical choice. It is stupid to say if you do not vote you have no reason to complain. I've also decided not to vote in the next election, reason being I hate the current state of affairs, our state organs are used as machineries to settle political scores. Incompetence, corruption, sycophancy, backstabbing seem to be threatening our young democracy. Enough is enough. - Luzuko
     
      JQ
    12/05/2008 09:57
    represents a breed of "disliked" African writers, who dare not sing from the apartheid hymn book as many others do. By writing as "hardcore" as he choses to do, he risks becoming an outcast in a world that seeks to engender an apologetic black society...bravo Jon...if they stop reading and commenting, we will, and recruit many others... - Justice
     
      Brainless drivel yet again
    12/05/2008 09:58
    Yes John, your reasoning makes perfect sense. What a wonderful way to make a difference! Not only do you NOT vote, you publish this drivel to convince others not to vote either? Readers, google this writer and have a look at some of his previous accolades. He is just a widely hated, opinionated twit. Voting is the only way to make democracy work. Don't let this knob convince you otherwise. Viva democracy! - JQ Hater
     
      Re: Well done John!
    12/05/2008 09:58
    But you still suck dude. - Anonymous
     
      I have to agree with the last paragraph!!
    12/05/2008 10:00
    Jon that last paragraph is probably your best yet! My #1 concern is murders followed very closely by rapes. The fact that the goverment does nothing makes me sick. All that greedy bastards have blood on their hands. And I dont know if someone didn't tell them yet, but the most victoms are their own people. - JJ
     
      News24
    12/05/2008 10:01
    News24 is at fault for publishing these rantings. please stop. it is getting pathetic that this privilege to "write" on such a wide-reaching website, is governed by Jon's drivel. Albeit, we don't have to "click" his article, but when is enough enough? or is JQ going to write a column again to justify his actions? please. Really. I'd be embarrassed. - Greg
     
      Nooit, bru...
    12/05/2008 10:01
    While I respect your opinion in this particular article, and am rather pleasantly surprised to find that crime and farm killings in particular also feature on your rather racist radar, any person with enough brains to fill half a teaspoon would realise that to change the situation that he finds so lamentable, does not lie in NOT voting, but lies simply in VOTING FOR THE OTHER GUY. Give that a bash next time, you might be pleasantly surprised. And that's the whole point in voting, really... - Boerseun
     
      Hypothetical...
    12/05/2008 10:04
    Next week, Sunday Times Headline, Jon Qwelane Defends the Defence!!What will be the outcome? Which side of the Jon's brain is to win? the left, emotionless, brave, courageous? the right, inspired, visionary, dreaming of a united South Africa? Or will Jon just emigrate to Swaziland? Peace. - Greg
     
      History...
    12/05/2008 10:04
    Please people... save us your cockeyed version of history written according to your colonial forefathers. Black South Africans are the indigenous owners of this country...Finish and Klaar... - Justice
     
      Freedom and voting, DO THE MATH
    12/05/2008 10:05
    Yes, you have the freedom not to vote, AND you have the freedom to complain as much as you want about anything. That doesn't change the fact that not voting is stupid. Everyone always assumes the ANC will always win, but here's a little known fact, if you actually do the math on the last elections, the ANC only got 43% of potential votes. In other words, the ANC ONLY won BECAUSE of non-voters, and could easily have been voted out if everyone had voted. Non-voters are de facto ANC voters. - David
     
      @ Kolobe
    12/05/2008 10:07
    Good comment..........at last, see you can do it. - The Force
     
      It starts with you.
    12/05/2008 10:07
    Wow a truly progressive column. With columns like this we're bound to unite and become a peaceful nation. - MP3
     
      Jon, if...
    12/05/2008 10:07
    you have to tell people you are smart, you probably are not. Remember what Margareth Thatcher said about power - it's like being a lady. If you have to tell someone you are, you're not. - renton
     
      our land
    12/05/2008 10:08
    The whole land belongs to each and every indidual who resides here. How dare the people of KZN or CT assume they have more right to their coastline than inlanders who decide to spend time there. How dare people chase vagrants off their verges or streets. This is common ground - so Jon you have no monopoly of this being YOUR land. Read Point Blanks response. But carry on venting - as Shrek said "better out than in" - sheila
     
      incompetance!
    12/05/2008 10:08
    here is just another example of being paid to do nothing, you dont by any chance work for the ANC do you ,jon? - J.A.C.K
     
      @ Justice
    12/05/2008 10:09
    ...and exactly how that that make anyone's life better today? I've said it once and I'll say it again. The majority of black people are out to 'stick it to the white man', and to prove something that's completely irrelevant today. - Azonic
     
      A smarter man would have read some more
    12/05/2008 10:11
    Try some books on anthropology, to see where your forbears came from. - salem alberto malich
     
      Tyrant
    12/05/2008 10:12
    John, why the heck do you have to come across as a tyrant? You come across like a Mugabe, boasting, intimidating and insulting all at the same time. There are ways and more ways of doing things. You've got yourself into this conflict situation yourself. How do you get out of it? Is there any humility somewhere? - Al
     
      good reason
    12/05/2008 10:13
    Jon, your reasons for not voting are valid. Your disappointment is real. Your right to critisize is entranched, in fact it is a responsibility. there are more ways to voice outrage than with a vote every 4 years. a great deal happens in between. i disagree with generation counting but i see your point. the land, however isn't ours. it is its own and doesn't know from borders and politics. it is there and we are on it... - Leaving
     
      JQ supporters confused
    12/05/2008 10:15
    jq thinks gail is "responsible when she writes "Where is it written that one loses the right to criticise or disagree if one doesn't vote? Jon is entitled to his opinion - that is democracy." Not at all true, DEMOCRACY is when one VOTES, FREEDOM OF SPEECH is what you are referring to Gail. - Dries
     
      Sho Jon
    12/05/2008 10:15
    It's time you directly hit back to idiotic comments....... - khokho
     
      I stopped reading your articles
    12/05/2008 10:15
    And I now only click your columns to read the comments. I find it entertaining to think that an idiot like JQ doesnt get the message and apperently news24 does not either. 80% Dont like or even read JQ crap. Anyway keep writing if you must. In the mean time I will humour myself at the comments. - Yucca Nel
     
      Silence
    12/05/2008 10:16
    To you all: I think this correspondent (JQ) deserves to be totally ignored the next time he goes into insult mode. He thrives on all our responses which gives his bosses pleasure as it is indicative of the fact that he is read. Next time you insult Johan: I'm looking the other way. Start looking for a new image. - Al
     
      Worst Article Yet..
    12/05/2008 10:16
    This has to be the worst dribble that I have ever read from any colomnist in any online forum, period. This guy gets booed from his little soapbox day after day, and still he thinks he is the only intellectual on this forum. Do you know what? We do not need votes in this country from blinded, brainwashed idiots like you, so I am very glad you do not vote. I just wish you'd stop writing too though. - SAS
     
      JQ
    12/05/2008 10:16
    And what makes you think I'm interested in your voting record? Idiot!!! Just go to the nearest corner and curl up into a bitter old ball_MORON. I can't believe you got paid for writing this trash. And, hey, it's happy hour_get my drift? - King Alpha
     
      Same ole same ole
    12/05/2008 10:17
    I didn't even bother reading this article - Jon probably blames apartheid - then says that he and his black brothers are the only "real" south africans. If he were white he woulda been fired by now for his rascist tendencies - but oops how could i forget - Blacks can't be rascists - and God is only on the ANC's side and will make sure they rule till Kingdom come - What a pathetic bunch of so-called leaders we are stuck with - not to mention the idiots that vote for them. - Stephen
     
      Give another black columnist a chance on news24
    12/05/2008 10:17
    Do you see whats happening here? your contineous racist hate speach has a created a monster which of course is you. We live in a society with so many differences and problems and the last thing readers want is log on to news24 in th morning only to be confronted by your personal pessimistic hate speach. What news24 needs to do is to give anothe black comulnist a chance as its obvious you dont belong here and readers have quite frankly had enough of you. - Us
     
      I give up!!
    12/05/2008 10:17
    Jon, these stupid unintelligent white racists can never understand anything, even if you write it in english. They are thick and there's not much we can help them with. The only thing they understand is "the people is". Like you Jon, i give up on teaching these morons anything - ke lihole! Liphoqo! Lirota feela tjena tsa bathonyana! - Wanted
     
      Do not judge a book by its cover
    12/05/2008 10:18
    Jon Qwelane is like Gareth Cliff - controversial and dumb and stupid people will not understand what he does! Jon, I one day hope we can maybe have a cup of coffee and perhaps discuss one or two of your ideas. However, I, my friend, are just as much a South African and should not be judged on the colour of my skin regarding whether I belong here or do not. As was your struggle to be recognised 30 years ago, I have the same struggle to be recognised as a brother of Mother Africa. - Johann
     
      JQ
    12/05/2008 10:19
    Why, oh why, do you choose to print such junk? Nothing else around? - carol
     
      No Sello U got it wrong mate!!!
    12/05/2008 10:19
    Not all of us are bitter apartheid children. We dont hate blacks. Period. I for one has a lot of respect for Jon cause I feel he's a good oke and he even will be a better pres. than Thabo. Rape and murder occurs every flippen day and thats sad and unecceptable and government isn doing anything to even try to stop it. I would gladly vote for someone with the integrity of an Obama. A black guy that everyone can trust with the vision to lead a country as diverse as south africa.S.A NEEDSsuchaleader - Morne
     
      I disagree.
    12/05/2008 10:19
    While it is your right not to vote, you shouldnt complain if you didnt bother participating in our democrazy. With freedom and democracy comes responsibilities and you dont seem to have the back-bone to accept this. Democracy my friend is unfortunately not a spectator sport and you cant sit there and expect evyryone else change the world for you. You of course just sit up there and judge the rest of us heh? "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing" - Ami
     
      Almost, but not quite...
    12/05/2008 10:20
    JQ, your reasons are compelling, but if you were really so 'very smart', you'd know that by voting for someone, other that the 'corrupt ruling party', you, and other 'very smart people' like yourself, might actually bring about positive change. But I guess because the majority of people in S.A. are so 'very smart', it'll take anothe 100 years before any positive change takes place in this God-forsaken country. - Andrew
     
      Poor Jonny
    12/05/2008 10:20
    Jon this is really pathetic. You are a sorry excuse for a "journalist". Please stopping refering to yourself as a "journalist" - man you wouldn't get a job writing for my son's primary school weekly newsletter. Please do SA a favour and never ever write another article again. - Al
     
      Jon
    12/05/2008 10:22
    lets face it when high IQ's were dished out you were not in the front of the queue. David Duke showed you up for the fool you are.... - IceCreamMan
     
      Jon, this country doesn't need you, like it or not...
    12/05/2008 10:23
    Let's call a spade a spade. You are not "Full South African" firstly, you are FIRSTLY bitter old racist... after that you can put "South African" reference. And, BTW, you are LEGALLY as South African, as I am who came to this country in 1992. Unless you disagree with the rule of law in which case, go to a permanent visit to your brother up north... And good riddance, we need positive people to build this country, not old bitter has-beens... - Dan
     
      Sunday SUN is NOT Sunday TIMES
    12/05/2008 10:23
    DIFFERENT NEWSPAPERS!!! Ag maybe Jon is right afterall about some of the uninformed responces here. - Z
     
      Message from Luthuli House
    12/05/2008 10:27
    The ANC must be aware that if their serial voters don't go to the polls the only threat is that the minority parties (like IFP) will reflect serious opposition as their loyalist will come in drove to support their political parties, every time ANC voters shy away from the polls this brings the reality of a government without the ANC majority. I say to the ANC supporters, continue not to vote ANC, you might as well just vote for the minority parties. - ANC President
     
      Jon, this country doesn't need you...
    12/05/2008 10:28
    You are not "Full South African" firstly, you are FIRSTLY bitter old racist... And, BTW, you are LEGALLY as South African, as I am who came to this country in 1992. Unless you disagree with the rule of law in which case, go to a permanent visit to your brother up north... And good riddance, we need positive people to build this country, not old bitter has-beens... - Dan
     
      To Charlie
    12/05/2008 10:28
    Charlie, you did pay to read the column. If nothing else, it cost you some time. John is a sensationalist, a sometimes shrewd user of fallacious argument (particularly slipping in a bit of argumentum ad hominem) and, occasionally, a skilled user of english. Those who speak out against him do sometimes make mistakes (such as the ET bit), but JQ is blind to his own errors, which simply fuels the pointless mud slinging. A decent example of irony, though. - Craig
     
      Tutu Fan
    12/05/2008 10:29
    Thanks Jon, for reminding me unequivocally why - among other things - I am an avowed fan of Desmond Tutu. If only we had more leaders of his ilk, we wouldn't be in our current mess. - Tracey
     
      @kolobe
    12/05/2008 10:31
    For all the comments i have made against you... finally i agree. sense at last, thanks. You actually made it worthwhile reading Jon's crap for a change. - Grant
     
      Johann
    12/05/2008 10:32
    Just for the record..I find you to be matured and objective in your opinoins..I realy enjoy reading your opinions...Looking forward to more meaningfull debates in future chief...JQ is an excellent writer and the illeterates will never understand him..his writtings are complicated for many of our users here... - Kolobe
     
      ??
    12/05/2008 10:33
    Normally I disagree with Jon on all points. THe last sentance though..shows that he isn't all bad. Although if he is not happy with the corruption in this country then why is he supporting Mugabe and his corruption??? - Me
     
      a little support ?
    12/05/2008 10:36
    shame Jon, seems like you getting your buddies to post a comment or two above ?? Cause black white or indifferent.. i cant for the world of me understand why anybody wouldnt think your a twat !! - Bon
     
      Blah
    12/05/2008 10:37
    Blah, blah, blah, and then a fraction of intelligence in the last paragraph (some of it). - David
     
      Choice between bad alternatives
    12/05/2008 10:39
    Nice to see you backtracking to a semblance of rationality in you last par, Jon. Brilliant suggestion from one of your commentators to include a no-confidence block on voting papers. Can you pse use your considerable and misdirected energy to start campaigning for this - you would do the country a huge favour. - non-voter
     
      nothin new
    12/05/2008 10:40
    JQ, you are so predictable. You write the same nonsense all the time. Why dont you think of something refreshing and different for a change. - dhv
     
      JQ
    12/05/2008 10:40
    Please will all media do us a favour, Fire this idiot, like 702 did, no-one to rehire him as his skills in journalism is a big fat Zero!!! - Teresa
     
      Give him a break
    12/05/2008 10:41
    Those who are objective will notice that Jon speaks the truth as he (and the rest of the black population) sees it. The problem is that he uses vocabulary that makes ceratin people angry and defensive. His points are spot on (mostly) but the vocab he uses seem to overshadow those points and people react to that vocab. Let's filter through the vocab and listen to the points made. - Athi
     
      @ Justice
    12/05/2008 10:41
    My brother, please read up on South African history I think you just might be in for a suprise. Furthermore, this country does NOT belong to you or me or anyone. We just live here and hopefully many of us will die here, we will be returned to the soil - this belongs to the planet and we are all living on borrowed time. - Richard Hipkin
     
      Do you get paid???
    12/05/2008 10:42
    I HATE mugabe, but i love him compared to you! I am black but you are an absolute idiot. You must go to Zim since to you it's government is doing such a good job! If you were in power the place would be even more screwed up. Your writing is just the same load of bs every week it's an insult to me as a black man. - Luba
     
      @ Azonic
    12/05/2008 10:43
    I am one of those black people...wait your turn, it's sooner than you think. - vuyo
     
      SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT
    12/05/2008 10:43
    At least you have the guts to openly declare what you believe. It seems that everybody can,t wait for you to submit your article so they can have a platform to vent. Great stuff, please keep submit....good on you man!! Can't wait to read your next article. Maybe you should right an article about rugby and transformation, can you imagine the reponses. Tees - Tyrone Isaacs
     
      Jon finaly makes a valid point
    12/05/2008 10:43
    Most of the reasons you have cited for not wishing to vote seem valid. Just one point of order, however. The AWB were not the only one's to escape prosecution for what they did. Examples include the mindless slaughter of innocent civilians at St James Church and Magoo's Bar. That, Calvin Mkhize, means it would be equally brainless to vote PAC or Azapo. Well done Jon! - yt1021
     
      Understanding democracy
    12/05/2008 10:44
    Perhaps I have a simple understanding of this, but surely, surely, if the ruling party is not doing what you want it to - as Jon claims the ANC are - surely you don't just deny them your vote. You VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE!!. Denying the ANC the odd vote is not going to change their behaviour. There are 15 million sheep out there who are going to mindlessly vote for them. Not voting when you are unhappy is a waste of democracy. - Excalibur
     
      Too many Craigs
    12/05/2008 10:44
    This is just to point out that the Craig that wrote the 'To Charlie' is not the same Craig that wrote the 'Racist' comment. I'll have to think of another name to use here to avoid confusion. Finally, to Sello, thanks, your comment made for a good laugh. Another great example of irony. - TooManyCraigs
     
      Jon
    12/05/2008 10:46
    If you do not understand what you are trying to say how can you expect your readers to understand what you are trying to say. You know where you came from why not crawl back there - Creepy
     
      JON
    12/05/2008 10:46
    Morning Jon....Last week I read an article by Max Du Preez. You are correct in trying to explain you view point to all of us. Thank you. I was wrong in critizising you for your views expressed! - SPIKE
     
      Kolobe
    12/05/2008 10:46
    You buffoon, learn to spell before speaking about complicated 'writtings'. I have to say, you're good for a laugh, at least. - ian e
     
      Jon Q
    12/05/2008 10:48
    It's nice that you have finally responded to you r critics Jon, you also have a rightto defend your views. Keep writting those inteerested will keep reading. I happen to find your articles interesting, can't say i agree with everything that you say, but hey that's life, sometimes people will oppose, and that is thier constitutional right. - Thokozani
     
      not voting
    12/05/2008 10:49
    i agree with keith,not voting it can be viewd as voting.voted not to vote.dan - dan boroko
     
      Only in South Africa,
    12/05/2008 10:49
    will you get "journalism" like this where a "columnist" go on about the stupidly, etc of his audience and by that he only proofs his own insecurities. Come on Jon you sound like another BEE product, who don?t have the skills and understanding to take what you give. Oh, on the ET subject do you mean he was never convicted in the same way that Zuma was not convicted about rape?