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One Love
19/05/2008 09:10
Point is there is no love amongst us blacks. We hate each other. Our real enemies walk the streets freely. There'll be civil war in SA one day, where will we run to? There are so immigrants (white, arab, chinese) - People dont car even if they come to Soweto and open up shops. Nobody gives a sh*t abt blacks, not even our so-called leaders. You are on your own black man. the sooner you get used to it, the better.
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Foreigners
19/05/2008 09:11
I like it when you admit that foregners are much educated and highly entrepreneurial than South Africans. Now the best thing will be to ensure that we nature those skills since our country is in need of skilled people.I don't believe that anyone with reasoning such as yours will be chasing people beacuse they are foreigners. The whole thing makes me sick. - Thokozani |
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Of course............
19/05/2008 09:13
Im not going to praise your article based simply on the fact that your overstating the obvious. Illegal Aliens have been crossing our borders for a long time. And nothing was or are being done. Nonsense! - Vic |
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Blaming Apartheid again
19/05/2008 09:15
Tthe government have different departments. There is a department for infrastructure, there is a department for health etc. Just as there is a department for foreign affairs. The problems now in SA, is not because of Apartheid, it is because on ignorance from Mbeki's side, and the whole corrupt government. They are to busy filling their own pockets, to tend to their jobs. Everybody warned a long time ago about Zim and about illegal immigrants, but hey silent diplomacy!! - Tired of this |
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Please explain, Jon, why they flood to SA?
19/05/2008 09:15
We are often bombarded by politically correct cries that South Africa's poor are so downtrodden (mostly it is "due to the legacy apartheid". Now, the Congo, Somalia or Nigeria never had apartheid, yet millions stream to SA. What is going on here? Who's talking nonsense? Are SA's poor really that poor, and was apartheid really that bad, considering the massive influx? - Afrikaner |
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For once i agree
19/05/2008 09:16
I normally avoid your columns, dripping with racial bigotry, and a complete lack of honesty and logic, like the plague.
Today, i have the unfortunate honour of agreeing with you 100%.
I think this is the story of SA. We can all agree on how our country should look, we just can't agree on how to get it there.
The ANC have failed, miserably, faile foreign policy, failed Home Affairs, failed police service, and an abject failure to lift the people out of poverty. - Phil Craig |
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Racism
19/05/2008 09:16
Black folks beating up other black folks because they aren't South African?! Swak. Why is South Africa so violent?! Is this what we do with freedom?! Use our new 'freedom' to murder and plunder and rape?! Like a bunch of spoilt children. No more racial persecution, yet, we have NO value for life. Our country is bleeding. - Sinudeity |
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Well Done
19/05/2008 09:25
Jon, you reported on fact, without name calling emotion or bias, and managed to still right a bloody good piece. Congrats, please keep it up! - Johann |
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What a good article Jon.
19/05/2008 09:25
This is a very well balanced article and I resonate with most of your views. It makes me feel ashamed to be SA, however one cannot blame Zimbos if Mbeki continues to hug Old Mad Bob, this sends a wrong message that Mbeki supports the tyrant that terrorise the people and shuns human rights. This was a boiling pot and we all kept a lid hoping for things to get better. These SAfricans have legitimate problems caused by the government, and now they blame the same victims. - Libembe |
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Unrealistic
19/05/2008 09:27
I think that we should get off our moral high horse and look at this problem and assess it in its totality.Contestation for land,migration and access has created problems all over the world.It is a contest that has been happening since time immemorial.Why are we so shocked then at what is now unfolding in front of our eyes in SA?.Yes,we can point fingers but nowhere in the world has anyone come up with a solution.The problem is bigger than the communities this problem finds itself in.... - Cape Town Kid |
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Good points . . .
19/05/2008 09:28
Jon, you've hit the nail on the head with this issue - that is the poor leadership around immigration. As a Zimbabwean i don't think that i am stealing a job from a South African, in fact i am in recruitment so i know how hard it is for foreigners to secure employment in this country. Two things: the ANC is not returning favours to anyone - they are just too lazy blind to do anything about it. Also (at least for Zim folk) i don't think we are arrogant, we're just trying to get by. - Zimbabwean |
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THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN
19/05/2008 09:28
there is just too many illegal immigrants in this country and the present government take people for granted unfortunately this how government ignorance is adressed. - MONWA |
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Dark continent
19/05/2008 09:29
What a shame, another self made disaster in the continent.Where is the African Renaissance in this, the United States of Africa, when we kill each other like this. Europe is laughing at us as we speak, we are another Rwanda in the making. - TK |
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Poor excuse
19/05/2008 09:29
So, lack of skills or motivation, is justification to rape murder and pillage, just because the foreigner happens to have those skills and drive? Maybe the locals should stop waiting for handouts and take their future into their own hands, and start doing something to improve their lives. Maybe go and rape, murder and pillage at the fancy homes of government ministers and officials, who promised heaven and earth in 1994, but instead lined their own pockets? - Stephan du Plessis |
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Not quite true
19/05/2008 09:29
Although I agree to some extend, not all is accurate. Righting the wrongs of the past unfortunately ended by changing a few street and airport names, rather than fixing and expanding infrastructure as you suggest. Thats really the crux of the matter, not much has changed in terms of infrastructure yet the population in the poor areas exploded. Also, handing out SA citizenships based on prior struggle credentials and assistance shows how scew the priorities of government are. - Pieter |
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Mugabe
19/05/2008 09:31
I think that we should also point to the fact that the government has done nothing but support Mugabe and that regime and have a lot to answer for the fact that we have Zimbabweans being forced to flee here for survival. It has destabilised Southern Africa and is unconscionable. It could bring serious consequences to all of us and government show severe lack of insight and wisdom in denying this reality. - Eden |
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Devils adv.
19/05/2008 09:31
You do not talk out against xenophobia. In fact you try to rationalise it. You blame government, does that mean that the previous gov and not the whites are to blame for apartheid. Where does xenophobia stop? All those People from the Eastern Cape and Zululand who have descended on our Gauteng - are they next. Maybe they should be first (some areas in Gauteng are closer to Botswana and Zim than eBaai). AND you JQ where are you from? Get out, get out..... - Habib |
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Please explain, Jon, why they flood to SA?
19/05/2008 09:31
We are often bombarded by politically correct cries that South Africa's poor are so downtrodden (mostly it is "due to the legacy apartheid". Now, the Congo, Somalia or Nigeria never had apartheid, yet millions stream to SA. What is going on here? Who's talking nonsense? Are SA's poor really that poor, and was apartheid really that bad, considering the massive influx? - Afrikaner |
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Love for my people
19/05/2008 09:32
I've so much love for my people (blacks), it's a pity they've got more love for other people than themselves. People cud care less abt blacks and yet we continue to see ourselves thru the eyes of people who hate us. We what and where they eat, we speak like them - always consider their standards to be the ultimate. But they cud never consider your standards or feelings. No one can ever understand a black person's everyday struggle, not even the liberals. - K |
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Xenophobia
19/05/2008 09:34
Much better article than usual, thanks. Most would agree that it is not a racial or an immigrant issue but a lashing out at poor delivery, broken promises and simply poor government policies. It is a sad day that this is the only way to get the attention of the leaders to the mess they are creating. - Birdman |
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Wow jon
19/05/2008 09:35
for someone who preaches racism(color based Xenophobia) every other week and wrote a lovely article on how fabulous Robert Mugabe and his land restoration/country rape program, I thought you would really be up for this giving the no Crisis Zimbabweans a reason to go back to the wonderful country uncle Bob has made for them..oh wait you live in the suburbs so you can afford to preach love and peace now that it suites you.. - me |
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Xenophobia: Is it too late?
19/05/2008 09:38
What did you expect that the poorest of the poor will just accept it? The government is too blame for this Xenophobia - they cannot look after they own people (+/- 40 million), yet they allow allow hundreds of thousands, if not millions of illegal or legal immigrants to enter SA. The SA exiles living abroad during the apartheid era was only in their thousands not millions. Goverment must stop blaming a third force for their mistakes. - Farieda Classen |
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Good Article
19/05/2008 09:39
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SANDF etc
19/05/2008 09:40
What are they doing everyday ? Why are they not patrolling borders and now the affected townships? it just doesnt make sense tha the SAP have to deal with this as well as all of the other crimes taking place. The crminals have found the perfect scapegoat and are milking it for all it's worth. I really do feel for those that are here legally looking for a better life for their children.for those of you who have left and will say oh well TIA - imagine the same thing happening in Perth or Sydney! - stack |
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Starting to make 'cents'
19/05/2008 09:41
Your previous articles have left a sour taste in my mouth, but i agree with you 100% on this issue...oh and yes it is too late! - White Kid |
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Foreigners Part 1
19/05/2008 09:42
What we are seeing happening now is the retaliation against the "innocent" illegal foreigners. These people have nowhere to go to survive and they are here simply because they want to live. Yes they do crime but it is mostly petty crime in order to survive. These people I can tollerate. BUT the real problem lies in the 'other categories' of foreigners. (See Foreigners Part 2) - SM |
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I needed a laugh
19/05/2008 09:46
And the respondants did not let me down.
The real reason for the Xenophobic attacks is that South Africans are nasty people. The more I deal with South Africans the less I like them. We are a stinking example of what is wrong with this world. We could easily be a shining example to the rest of the world. But we fail. We are completely uncharitable and have no sense of generosity. Unless it is a charity drive organised by a radio station, we are not a giving population. We suck. - niels |
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Our government is reactive...
19/05/2008 09:49
Today I was reminded of apartheid days where people were beaten, torched and homes were burned to ashes. This horrid realization is a proven fact that in South Africa we are inhuman, insensitive and barbaric to the core, now let us not blame apartheid for our current state of affairs, its 63 years since Hiroshima atomic bomb landed in Japan but look at the Japanese economy in general. We might look at Ruanda and try to console ourselves that we are better but in fact we are no different. Foreigners are torched alive while police are watching, macabre beatings are the order of the day, damn, I hate to admit that we South Africans are far from civilization. Who do we blame for this current state of affairs? maybe the minister of home affairs should simply resign for not handling the immigration issue with the priority it deserves. My other question is why is our government not taking the immigration issue very serious? the dangers of South Africans being victims of airborne viruses like ebola, marburg, etc is increased every day due to this uncontrolled influx of illegal immigrants ?this is a health risk of the highest order?, now with government battling to control the simple HIV/AIDS, this means that in future our existence will be threatened when we are hit by this types of viruses. Again, no one takes cognizance, they paid huge salaries to just seat at their office and watch a picture of the president which is nicely hanged on their office walls. - Luzuko |
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JQ
19/05/2008 09:51
Spot on JQ. Yet another thing that our govt. has failed at. I'm struggling to think of something that they are improving ???? - Silver Surfer |
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Foreigners Part 2
19/05/2008 09:52
The real problem about illegal aliens is the illegal aliens that are here for greed purposes. These are mostly people who come under the pretence of helping SA to develop but then bleed the country dry of talent and money. The Americans in my view id top of the list. They come here, work here for extended periods without workpermits or visas, ('on vacation') and take huge amounts of moneys to the USA via taxhavens to the detriments of local South Africans. Stolen from SA: jobs, living, Integrity. - SM |
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Xenophobia
19/05/2008 10:01
Besides bringing apartheid in again, I have to agree. Pieter has got a point. Too much money are wasted on name changes while millions of people are still unemployed, BUT what type of person kills people in such a way (burning them) It is absolutely horrific and unacceptable. I don't understand why Mr Mbeki, the leader of our beautiful country doesn't do anything about it. What type of leader allows this? - Sonja |
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Nigerians
19/05/2008 10:03
I come from a small town. We didn't have any drug related problems, until the Nigerians moved in. Can you blame us for being xenophobic? - Ben S |
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Genocide will follow
19/05/2008 10:10
Unfortunately, the South African tribes will turn on each other more violently. They have always bareley tolerated each other, but the violence was kept in check, it is now going to boil over and we will become just like any other African country with multiple tribes - genicide. Why is it that blacks South Africans are so full of hatred and intolerance for any other race/tribe? - Karen |
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Jon,
19/05/2008 10:11
this article has a background of causes and proves you can write decent articles. However you do not condemn the barbarians who carry out these cowardly attacks on defenceless foreigners including women and children. These attacks show how intolerant our society is of anything we don't agree with. Zuma has had an inciteful effect with his childish song Umshimi Wami and he should refrain from using it. - Filemon |
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Laziness breeds hate
19/05/2008 10:11
You just said it yourself, South Africans, unlike the old days, expect jobs to fall into their laps and demand handouts and too lazy to work. When these foreigners come into the country they have the business savvy to work hard. Now that they working hard and making the money, the rest are getting upset because South Africans are lazy and don't work and sit on their asses all day. If South Africans actually worked, we wouldn't be in this mess and we would have a lot more jobs for the locals.
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Then and Now
19/05/2008 10:13
You write of all the mistakes of the past which have allowed this to happen - such as the open door allowing many in, and corrupt officials allowing fake marriages etc. However - what is being done NOW to solve this? Why are more mistakes being made? Why is Mbeki complaining about 'lies' against him instead of solving this local crisis. Pathetic. - MJ |
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Xenophobia
19/05/2008 10:14
Our government is reactive. Correct. But lack of moral values the cause, worldwide not only here. Look at our children's role models. No discipline at home anymore? - Sonny |
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Facts
19/05/2008 10:14
An SA relative working for a construction co. has been laid off by his employer. Reason he employs Zimbabwens as they work harder for less pay.Currently 8 SA citizens have been laid off and replaced by 8 Zimbabwens. Next time a service (gardening,building etc) is offered to you please check how many are in the team.I don't condone this acts but we need facts.The guy my relative whom he lost a job to stays in the same area Diepslot. Guess how he feels when he sees him going to work daily???? - Tso |
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illegal immigrants
19/05/2008 10:14
Problem with this government is they seem to believe that if you ignore it it will go away. This should have been foreseen and refugee centres organised. When have SAfricans ever failed to deliver? Everybody who could would have pitched in to help, but this current situation is intolerable. - taurus |
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Illegal immigration causes xenophobia
19/05/2008 10:16
You cannot enter most developed countries and work without a visa. If disaster strikes a neighbouring country, they set up aide programs to assist the incoming people in a controlled environment. Illegals are streaming into SA unchecked. This causes extreme tensions in a market where jobs for the poor are scarce and competition is tight for RDP houses. The xenophobia is a direct result of the government lacking of willingness to protect their citizens first. They are again looking for a scapegoat - AJC |
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Q&A
19/05/2008 10:18
The question will be why know, there is an element of 3rd force into this whole dilemma. Why only the Zim people being attacked within the political turmoil, facing the run-off elections. Bob is using this thugs to forcefully get the votes, think of the IFP and ANC just b4 our 1st National Elections. This is nothing but an act of sabotage and thugs taking advantage, I wouldn't be suprissed if the Alex story was started by a number of Zim people to oust their fellow country men. This is madness... - ML |
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Crux
19/05/2008 10:24
The problem is this:
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Jealousy
19/05/2008 10:25
Jealousy causes anger, resentment etc but rape and murder?? - Sandy |
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Xenophobia
19/05/2008 10:26
Jon, any slaughter is wrong, our Good Book the Bible warns us against acting unjustly against any person seeking refuge, however we need to be realistic, and we cannot support refugeees when our own people live in poverty. Our Government needs to control the influx of refugeees just like any well run country, I cannot got to the USA, New Zealand or Australia unless two things occur, one, I needed and have rare skills, two, there place for me. - Christian |
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Frustration
19/05/2008 10:28
The underlying issue here is simply, frustration of being poor...Not many leaders and educated people really understands the frustration of the poor! So the xenophobic issue is just a drop in the bucked of what's to come. The real culpret is actually the goverment... - Mo |
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This is wrong
19/05/2008 10:29
I agree with you Bra Jon, but these attacks are just wrong. They are bad and getting worse. We need to support the Million Man March and participate in finding solutions for these problems. Some of my friends are great people from Uganda, Malawi and Zimbabww, always doing their best to live better lives and contribute to South Africa. Yes there are bad apples, but killing or harming them is not the answer. Come-on people where is ubuntu? - J |
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Poor leadership
19/05/2008 10:31
Al Mbeki tells the people who voted for him is" Learn to live with them" Yeah right they are not in his yard. This whole thing that we owe our Liberation to other Africans is Crap. We are free because whites decided that its ENOUGH. Truth. Militarily we would never have defeated the old SA army. How many people were in Exile anyway and how many were drug pushers, human traffickers etc. Watch it ANC, your demise might be quicker than we thought. Our security as a country is at stake here - TEbzano |
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what a hoot
19/05/2008 10:33
why is it the government or foreigners fault if you are incompetent or illiterate or unskilled?
should you blame someone because they take the risk to start the business and have enough street smart to run them well? - Anon |
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Xenophobia, It is too late
19/05/2008 10:33
I think we need to give Morgan Tsvangirai more support so that Zim gets back on her feet and the people of Zimbabwe will go back, as for the rest of the foreigners we need to be more strict in allowing them in, this entire xenophobic thing reminds me of Rwanda, but you cannot blame the people of SA for reacting this way as the feel very threatened. - Amsha Sohawan |
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luzuko
19/05/2008 10:36
"Who do we blame for this current state of affairs?".......and so it continues, looking for someone to blame. I agree with all of your comments but the blame needs to rest squarely on our shoulders as South Africans. It is only us (all of us) that will achieve the goal that we all really and truly want. - Mike |
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Lazy South African
19/05/2008 10:36
So if the foreigners are more educated and highly enterpreturnal they should be treaded like that?It shows how South Africans are simply lazy and want evrything on a silver tray instead of working hard to earn a decent living.Chinese,Zims,Pakistanians have proved to us that we are lazy and they can make a living in our country while we are moaning and blaming apartheid for everything.Come on South Africa,wake up and start blaming foreigners for your poverty,they work hard! - Concerned citizen |
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I AGREE
19/05/2008 10:37
Well done Jon. For a change you are making sense.
COME ON SOUTH AFRICA. WE NEED TO WORK WITH EACH OTHER NOT AGAINST EACH OTHER. - SPEEDY |
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"Rich" foreigners vs "Poor" locals
19/05/2008 10:44
This is exactly what you get when your culture says "You are rich BECAUSE I am poor" instead of "You are rich and I am poor". Paradigm shift needed. Not holding my breath. - Werner Pereira |
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Economic reality
19/05/2008 10:45
What is happening is not purely xenophobia, is a desperate economic struggle. Foreigners are attacked not for being just a foreigner, but to fight off others for the precious few jobs available out there. If I was in the same position ? living in a squatter camp surviving on piecemeal jobs, I would probably had the same sentiments towards outsiders taking jobs that as a South African citizen, believe it should have been mine. I doubt if I would have turned to violence and murder, but then again, I am not in that position, so it is easy to take the moral high ground. Nice to read a more sobering perspective on this issue that the ?shock and awe? responses we had so far. What?? Did I just praised John Q ?? Arrrggg? - Johan |
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Remember!
19/05/2008 10:46
They are not illegal immigrants, they are undocumented immigrants. That's what the minister said, while he ignored the real problems, that are coming back to haunt him, like Eskom is now haunting the prez. - Hendrik |
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Just think
19/05/2008 10:49
If Mbeki had sorted out Mugabe and the Zimbabwe crisis, there would be millions of zimbabwians going home to fill the jobs created by huge foreign investment to rescue and rebuild the country's economy and infrustructure ...
Instead, Mbeki has failed the whole of africa, and as a result a million more zimbabwians will flee to south africa and surrounding coutries putting more pressure and increasing xenophobia ...
This is Mbeki's legacy. - MikeT |
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Foreigners
19/05/2008 10:50
Although immigration does need to be better controlled and policed, is it also not inhumane to deny these victimised people asylum? If things had not reached a stage of crisis in their own countries why would they need to come here. The way we South Africans are treating these foreigners is despicable. - A |
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Full Truth
19/05/2008 11:01
Jon, pls consider the audience you are writing to? While you mention some of the facts, you deliver it disappointingly in shreds. You are not informing your audience, you are not giving us material to go think about. You only succeed in wanting me to fill in the gaps left by your article. - Loraine |
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And yet.....
19/05/2008 11:02
The leaders of the reagion are still saying that Mbeki is doing a good job in mediating the issues in Zim. Quiet diplomacy is working?? Are these people not only stupid, but completely blind as well? I don't know why we even bother talking about it or hoping that it will change. These people are beyond help and are hopeless. Their old tribal ways is the only way they know. The man in the street will always suffer and the "chiefs will always be fat, lazy and useless. Its the way everybody likes it - Karen |
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Wrong people are targeted..
19/05/2008 11:02
One of my black colleagues (which was born here), complained that the issue is really that she was also now targeted because her skin tone was darker than the average black in SA. She is thought to be a foreigner herself because she can speak more than one other African language as well. Now she is living in fear and scared of being murdered because of this. It's as if the people responsible for these attacks don't really care if you're a "import" or not. Morally our country is doomed. - Riaan |
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Poverty and crossnational migration
19/05/2008 11:07
No country can export its poor people to another country. During the struggle South African poor did not compete for scarce resources in other countries. That people have taken the law into their own hands it means that the Govt and the system has failed them. The fact is that the illegal immigrants have come to stay for ever. South Africa must implement refugee camps, strict controls on immigration and discourage the migration of poor people. - Mandla |
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This is what usually happens...
19/05/2008 11:08
1.People see trouble coming.2.They warn govt.3.Govt say there's no crisis.4.Trouble comes.5.Govt sets up a 'task team' or 'commission' of enquiry.6.Task team or commission of enquiry give feed back to govt.7.Govt thank the task team or commission of enquiry for completing job.8.Govt sits on recommendations of task team and wait for next "crisis" and the cycle starts again.When people were complaining about illegal immigrants they were told foreigners are here to 'enjoy' the democracy of SA. - Godfreyg |
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Karen's commenting
19/05/2008 11:13
Am i the only one or is Karen being racist? Talking about the "Their old tribal ways is the only way they know."????? CONFUSED - Kini |
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Mbeki's failures
19/05/2008 11:13
Thabo Mbeki together with Trevor Manuel have failed this country in every respect. They have handed over the economy to 2 sets of crooks: Big business and Mafia (local and foreign. Neo-liberal economic policies created a free for all immigration policies so that big business could pick and choose the workers and created the race to the bottom. Poverty all around amongst the masses while the gap between the top 50 earners and the ordinary masses has increased to 450,000:1 ratio. - Prowler |
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Illegal Immigrants
19/05/2008 11:18
I understand people from Zimbabwe,Somalia,DRC,coming here illegally,it's because of political problems in their own countries.But what about Chinese,Pakistanis Nigerians,Eastern Europeans?Are they also fleeing political persecution in their own countries?Aren't they suppose to enter the country legally like other people and apply for citizenship if the wish to live here.There's only so much that a country can handle in terms of immigrants. - Godfreyg |
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Agree with Jon
19/05/2008 11:20
I totally agree with Jon, yes we ran to neighbouring african countries through tough times and they welcomed us, and we didn't try to take over their country. But we never enjoyed the fruits of our democracy as they came flooding in huge numbers to enjoy and benefit our newly found freedom. But still I dont support the violence they are going thru but there should be stricter rules when it comes to immigration... - khokho |
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Blaming Apartheid again...
19/05/2008 11:21
Believe it or not, apartheid did have psychological impact on every person, even today. Our self-esteem is extremly low, thus the violence amongst each other. We need to get past that and find our way back to each other. it hurts being black at this point. Now people like Karen, they are enjoying seeing blacks in self-destruction. Tribals ways.... - Keneilwe |
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Xenophobia
19/05/2008 11:21
I certainly agree with Jon, the state of our borders is an emberrassment to amateurs. I would gladly accept any African bro or sis as long as they are here legally and their whereabouts are always in check by the Intelligence. - Plato |
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@Mike T
19/05/2008 11:22
HEAR HEAR! Couldn't agree with you more,and what does he do instead? He hugs and kisses Mugabe (what a match made in Heaven) while a few miles away Zimbabweans (including infants and the elderly) are beaten to a pulp to ensure their continued obedience to their "Fuhrer" (moustache and all). - The Truth |
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It is no longer the legacy of apartheid!
19/05/2008 11:25
It is now the legacy of Mbeki and the ANC! Finish en klaar! - CT Boykie |
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Fight Back
19/05/2008 11:26
There was a huge meeting of all foreigners in Thembisa this weekend.The have put in plan a fight back strategy if this idotic people trid to to take them on.Were will thos end. - WALTER |
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Jon - why are you still here
19/05/2008 11:29
Your articles are just not improving. At least this one is not filled with racism and hatred. But please Jon please, where do you get your information from. 'Influx of illiegal immigrants from Eastern Europe and Israel..' What??? - Aragorn |
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Change Perspectives
19/05/2008 11:31
Why is it that some South Africans continually blame external forces for their internal shortcomings.
SA is a great place for any self motivated individual, thus the inlux of other nationals. - Legal Immigrant |
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@Kini
19/05/2008 11:33
You are right, my comments are racist and I am talking about the average Black African. They have shown over and over in all African countries that they are filled with hatred and intolerance for any other race/tribe, but expect love and charity in return. They also do not know how to govern a country successfully and try to do it in the old tribal ways where the chief is king and everybody are their servants and works for the chief and keeps only the scraps for themselves. - Karen |
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Sun
19/05/2008 11:35
And what about the allegations of your paper fueling the fire originally with your reporting.
Now suddenly u change ur tune. Press freedom is a Privilege maverick journo's like you should be stripped of. Enjoy the results of your work... - fern |
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@Keneilwe - you are wrong.
19/05/2008 11:37
I do not enjoy seeing blacks turn on each other at all. All this murder, violence and hatred is sad and makes life for everybody unpleasant. I do not hate blacks and do not want to see them suffer at the hands of anybody. I want peace and tolerance, my comments are that blacks themselves are too filled with hatred. Apartheid is not too blame, you are fooling yourselves and looking for something to blame for everything. Look in the mirror and assign the blame where it belongs. - Karen |
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How...
19/05/2008 11:38
Does an immigrant who opens his OWN business take away jobs from locals?? What a pathetic excuse if ever I saw one. The immigrant who opens his own shop lands up employing those who are too lazy to do the same because they would rather want to be in a managers job so they can have lunch all day, go to meetings all day, drive around all day... - Point Blank |
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Problem with Ruling Party
19/05/2008 11:39
The biggest problem with the ANC government, is that they think, the've got the answers for all the problems in this country, they do not listen to the people,they want to blame other parties, like the NP did, by blaming Communist when the country was on fire, i cannot understand,a country accepting everybody, and but everybody from anywhere in the world, without prior checking.disgusting ANC. - Mogapi |
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South Africans first!
19/05/2008 11:42
This problem should have been averted long ago by common sense and good statemenship, but SA politicians worry more about their image and pockets than caring for South Africans. We should help our population first before we can assist others. Thanking other countries for help during the struggle by opening our borders and allowing their citizens to populate SA, is wrong. SA should be helping them politically IN their OWN countries and not by allowing them to stream into SA! - Frannie |
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alleged xenophobia
19/05/2008 11:45
It is agonising to see foreign nationals being beaten up, raped and murdered. However, it is criminal for our so called leaders to simply construe the current violence as the result of senseless xenophobic outburts. The legitimate grievances of South Africans are de-legitimised and ignored. Though I strongly condemn the violence perpetrated against foreign nationals, I do believe that most illegal foreigners treat our beloved country as a toilet. They do as they please and this is unacceptable. - gift |
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Political scores payback
19/05/2008 11:48
During the struggle years, only a handful of ANC top brass were sheltered by African countries, whilst the masses of their support base still endured the wrongdoing's in SA. For the govt(ANC)to now adopt the mindest of "paying back political favours" is purely an extremely naive and fickle argument! C'mon now, during the struggle years, SA did not have a mass exodus of people seeking refuge in other African countries!
-Mike M - Mike M |
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Honesty misused
19/05/2008 11:52
The African continent is thick with politicians who have taken public confidence and trust in them lightly, as you quite rightly point out Qwelane some public institutions slept on the clock and did not provide South Africans with the upper hand so that when foreigners arrive policy favors them more and as such they do not see opportunities being hijacked from right under their noses.
We however have to consider Mbeki's words when he said there is no crisis in Zimbabwe. - Thebe Mogapi |
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no country could cope with the influx we are facing
19/05/2008 11:52
pity the poor are misdirecting their anger towards defenceless illegals, our gvt officials should be getting a whipping instead as they have failed SA in general.anc's duplicity never fails to amaze me, no foresight or planning. the fact tht SA is a thriving economy with an econ and political unsatbale region, should have been long identified as athreat to our stabilty & programmes put into place to deal with it holistically.we now have angry poor masses attacking defenceless ppl. makes me sick! - nandipha |
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mike,
19/05/2008 11:53
My good deeds will haunt me for life, maybe I should blame myself for helping my fellow Africans, I gave them jobs so that they can survive and send money to their families. I also fed them when they were busy doing their errands, gave them clothes to wear and old cellphones that were buried under unused items only to be later stolen by local ?skelms?. I guess I am to blame as I was not only helping a needy person but also fuelling hate and jealousy among the fellow South Africans; you know what a South African citizen with Green ID book came to my house to ask for a gardening job, guess what a Malawian had already got the job and previously a Zimbabwean left because he was deported. I blame myself, wholeheartedly, but it ends there, but someone should have prevented them from coming here in the first place, now who?ll take that blame? - Luzuko |
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Excuses, Excuses
19/05/2008 11:54
"But the new government was also supposed to contend with more immediate and pressing matters at home: past wrongs had to be redressed, infrastructure had to be strengthened and extended to those the apartheid regime had deliberately marginalised" Johnny-boy stop finding excuses..get your facts right big-boy...they plan to pocket..and are still pocketing today..so why give a hoot about a couple of foreigners..and for the necklace..that was well rehearsed in the pass..Enjoy your week - Hopnop |
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xenophobia
19/05/2008 11:59
the issue of killing people and putting blame on gov is not true, the main issue is people of SA they are lazy to work, they wait for someone to do her\his own thing then they steal from that person . xenophobia didn't start today why they were not killing each other, and they must respect tsonga people they very educated, hard worker and respect other people just like the Governor and Shilowa - petunia nkhwashu |
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We are all to blame
19/05/2008 12:03
Stop pointing fingers. WE are ALL to blame. We voted the current ruling party in, and we've allowed a perfect haven for all mankind to be kindled in South Africa. I'm talking about Human Rights. Does it apply only to local born people? No, it is open to each and everyone who is capable of accepting this offer and making it his/her own.
Wake up people! There's no point in criticizing the writer or respondents to this article, there ARE MANY crises in our country today, and it is up to YOU to make the difference in a civilized manner, not the government!
- Boiks |
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It had to happen.....
19/05/2008 12:04
Can anyone put a timeframe to the day when South Africans will stop blaming apartheid for every problem we encounter? Another 14 years? These barbaric acts of violence against fellow human beings cannot be aportioned to apartheid. Low-self esteem does not justify hacking and burning another person to death!! When will we hold our current governement accountable for allowing this issue to spiral out of control? - Low Patriotic Esteem |
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Parliament to be educated
19/05/2008 12:04
I think it would be good for all Ministers and MP's to take a course in National Security. It will teach them statehood and what their responsibility to South Africans really mean! Small issues that seem insignificant to them could become contributors to a larger problem that could destabilise SA. Some food for thought. South Africa is for South Africans. Not for "all who live in SA"! Let's help SA first before we help the rest of Africa; anything else is futile and could wreck this country! - Frannie |
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Rotten pot of africa
19/05/2008 12:08
Influx of foreigners shows that SA is the only African country where there is anything left to take and since Africans can only resort to violence to sort out their problems, this is not a surprise. When these foreign locusts move on there will be nothing left in the wake of this plague, just like the rest of this godforsaken continent. SA's goverment is failing the people it swore to uplift and they are left to fend for themselves. Why are we surprised? It's human nature. Eat or be eaten! - ICV |
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Blaming...
19/05/2008 12:10
"Who do we blame now?" That's the problem, stop blaming and start acting on issues. Stop blaming, start looking at what is NOT being done about it. Stop blaming. Stop blaming. Stop blaming. - Point Blank |
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how do they know who's foreign?
19/05/2008 12:12
my question with this attacks is how do they know who's foreign and who is not? or do they simply go by the color of your skin or the way one speaks? or do they ask for proof of id? my worry is they are also attacking the wrong people. this is wrong and has to stop. - Thabi |
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xenophobia
19/05/2008 12:14
People it really doesnt matter whether a person is born in zimbabwe,nigeria etc, there is no one who owns this world so people should stop acting like animals, what they are doing is very wrong and i hope all of them rot in hell. a person has each and every right to live wherever they feel like living, this really pisses me off. nxx - c |
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What exactly is a "foreigner"
19/05/2008 12:15
The only reason Zimbabweans are considered "foreigners" is because of some arbitary line drawn along the Limpopo River by the British a few hundred years ago. From a Zulu's perspective what difference is there between a Shona from Zimbabwe and a Xhosa from the Eastern Cape. Ndebeles are spread over both South Africa and Zimbabwe. Why does an Ndebele from Zimbabwe have less right to live in Gauteng than an Ndebele from South Africa? - David |
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Racism
19/05/2008 12:16
This is disgusting as world cup is coming to SA.You think foreigners will be safe?FIFA better ban world cup becoz people gonna die.SA has turned into racism wish is not fit for SA to host such a big event.People must stop being ignorant you are letting the country down.We need investment from foreigners lets stop killing (our brothers and sisters)them. - Actor |
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@karen
19/05/2008 12:19
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