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Boring 14/07/2008 08:53
Pointless article! We all knew that already. And about the land reform issue if it happens we will see a real shortage of food in SA. Happy happy Zim buddy!!! - Stinkbug |
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Local Food 14/07/2008 08:55
Good one Jon. I wish there was a way that South Africa can start functioning on its own again, without having to roll with international punches. - Atti |
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Pap and Tripe... 14/07/2008 08:56
...a healthy meal indeed.The global food shortage and resulting price hikes is an economic challenge to all. Any suggestion to challenge the norms and improve living conditions should be persued. - Westisbest |
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What a joke 14/07/2008 09:00
What an Idiot, dont he know that most of our corn and grain get's inported. - will |
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Thanks John! - PT.1 14/07/2008 09:00
Thanks for the good article Johan, I agree 100%. My wife and I are also battling with the high food prices so we decided at the end of June to try a different approach to our eating habits. We planned every single meal for the month and bought only what was needed for these meals. Needless to say but our food bill came down a wopping R500! We now eat plenty of fruit and vegetables, even rice, past and sweet potatoes (cheaper and better tasting than normal potatoes). We buy the fruit and veg... - Glenn |
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Food 14/07/2008 09:01
Just drop the meat or only eat it once a week if you lust for it. The whole world will recover if people will just stop killing animals and breeding them in the billions for slaughter. Humanity is living with the fruits of their socially accepted evil. - Eden |
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Thanks John! - PT.2 14/07/2008 09:04
We buy the fruit and veg twice a month, buy two loaves of bread a week, have plenty milk and only buy the seasonal fruit, which is currently oranges...etc. No complaints here. We have chicken, mince, tuna and fish. Simply plan and you will notice that over consumption is the issue here. By the way, for the two of us we budget R750 each a month and now with the left over +/-R500 we use to pay debts or save this for the end of year festive season. - Glenn |
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Is there a point to the column? 14/07/2008 09:04
You appear to be making some point, but you do not follow it to any meaningful conclusion, and even appear to be arguing against yourself in your last sentence. Are we all doomed to eat pap and tripe?Shall we all become farmers now? By farming our own produce and living off it, will the petrol proce decrease? Will inflation magically subside? - jonathan |
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Pass me mine 14/07/2008 09:08
I'll take the pap thanks John, but instead of tripe just add some local lekker boerewors. - Punk |
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Food for thought Jon. 14/07/2008 09:14
Nice one..however Im glad you never used Zimbabwe as an example when it comes to land redistribution and ownership.Flourishing farms have been decimated. - Denzil |
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Food Prices 14/07/2008 09:16
Something Must be done about this problem otherwise we are going to have a serious baclash from people who already cannot afford. - zolani sixolo |
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Land Ownership 14/07/2008 09:20
Hi Jon,
If you want to be a land onwer you must pay for it, this is fortunately the way of the world, unlike Africa where everthing is expected for free. - Martin |
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Planting own vegetables 14/07/2008 09:23
I place the blame on the government of the day, spoiling people with government grants etc.
There is an area outside Pietersburg where the people have HUGE tracts of free land where they used to cultivate & grow their own vegetables, but guess what?
Since they started getting government grants...these HUGE areas are now lying bare.
Why work when they get money from the government?
We need to get rid of our lawns & plant vegetables!!!! - Paul |
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pap en wors en afval! 14/07/2008 09:27
I love my pap en wors or tripe(afval) just as much as kfc. but I won't mind burning down every kfc just to get people use to local food and for that matter real food. And with that lowering prices! Sounds like a win win deal to me. - Jaco |
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Local is Lekker 14/07/2008 09:38
Thanks Jon, nice read... A friend of my recently went on a mission to Mozambique, to one of the rural villages there, she said that the way the locals live off the land is astonishing, something we can all learn from. Enormous juicy vege gardens, unbelievebly fertile land,excellent irrigation.. the cost? nil. just honest hard work. the ppl? fit, healthy, strong, and HAPPY! cheers.. - Greg |
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everyone is an expert 14/07/2008 09:40
a journalist trying to explain and provide a solution for the high food prices? this is an economic problem which unfortunately you do not know much about, rather talk about politics. - turbo_superboss |
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Local is lekker 14/07/2008 09:45
You got it right, Bra John. Junk/fast food from the west is expensive and bad for our health. Lets return to our own traditional food which kept our forefathers strong...wmore of us are dying young due to high bl;ood pressure and other lifetsyle ailments caused by junk(mostly America) style fast food. - IandI |
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We're still lucky 14/07/2008 09:48
Well I don't eat tripe and as Capetonian you'll never get me near pap, but we do love our braaivleis. Jon I see your point and I honestly don't see why a lot of my fellow white compatriots our complaining - we're people who insist on eathing meat everyday. That doesn't even happen in the 1st world anymore. "I once heard a man complain about his legs feeling tired, and then I heard a man complain about not having any legs". The prices are high yes, but not everyone have the right to complain - Danny |
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Sorry John, no pap for you 14/07/2008 09:53
Take away the food-producing farms in SA (like the ANC is trying to do) and then see where your little bit of pap and tripe comes from. Tripe article by the way. - Pietskiet |
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All of Zim 14/07/2008 09:54
And some other African countries meal does came from abroad. - Martin |
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Most land claims have been settled and 14/07/2008 09:59
most people have returned to their land except for a small minority who opted for cash in stead. The problem is: we blacks do no longer want to work our land. I travel a lot and see in the Ciskei and Transkei vast land, that used to be cultivated, lying idle. JQ, let us not politicise and try and be smart about laziness. The land, cattle and the communities are still there but nothing is being done. I am also black and always busy on my small urban garden, after work. I DO IT MYSELF. - Liberty |
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Huh? 14/07/2008 10:02
Jon, I cannot believe that a man of your intelligence can honestly believe that redistribution of land in SA will solve the food crisis! When last did you drive through the Transkei and let's not mention how well it worked in Zim! Partnerships are the only way forward. Black farmers need to learn to farm commercially, not just for their own table. - Mark |
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makes no difference here 14/07/2008 10:18
Here we have capitalists companies fixing prices and colluding amongs each other to gain max profits, we as consumers have no choice but to pay high prices,there are no protection against these unscrupelous vipers.In order for any coubtry to be aconomically stable,it needs to trade with other countries and here prices are determined by demand and wht you can`t sell you simply dump in the sea,remembre the thousands of litres of surplus milk dumped not too long ago. - fatman |
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Problem 14/07/2008 10:18
Dear John. I would enjoy eating pap for every meal, however, the problem with that is that there aren't enough trees around in our office park to take a nap underneath. - Bee |
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Stable food etc. 14/07/2008 10:24
So rice is a staple food you cry claiming that "pap" is the staple food of black people ? I thought BREAD was the most common staple food in South Africa (for ALL RACES)......... just shows you how little I know. - D-Mesiter |
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Rice? 14/07/2008 10:27
I think the rice is no longer the staple for South Africans of Indian origin. All the people I know in this group, which I myself belong to, consider bread to be the staple. - RTMP |
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Eat local - reduce global warming 14/07/2008 10:29
Interesting article Jon, and ecologically sound. Economically though the world is undergoing huge pressures because of fuel costs which impacts on everything else. OPEC and oil producing countries are consumers of the worlds other produce like food since geographically can't sustain their population on what they produce in food and water. Not all areas are arable worldwide and overpopulation is also a problem all over. Farming is tough & not for all. Land ownership alone doesnt feed the masses, - GailC |
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Back yard 14/07/2008 10:32
I always think about planting vegies in my back yard. The problem is that my back yard is rocky. Any advise?people must start to use their back yard, I see this article as a chalenge to South Africans, Good one John. I will plan vegies in my friend back yard this coming weekend, operation plant. - Tumza |
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Teach a man to fish..... 14/07/2008 10:34
I have been living and working in Tanzania and Zambia and have witnessed how these countries put a lot of effort into teaching people to grow their own food. The systems are a bit socialist, but who cares, they work. This concept of people living on less than a dollar a day is nonsence. Many people are quite happy and survive well on no money at all. - Bruce |
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Well Said!!! 14/07/2008 10:41
Jon, I couldn't agree more! Seems that fair trade is not really that fair after all eh? - Lumukanda |
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Drivel drivel drivel 14/07/2008 10:55
Jon please leave economics to those who understand it.Write about your racist views so that the readers can be entertained again. - Ricardo |
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Always going on about land ownership! 14/07/2008 11:05
Land ownership is not a right. Only 4% of the world's population own land, so why should it be any different here? Besides, we all know what happens to productive white farms that are given to the so-called "original owners", don't we? - He who knows |
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@Tumza 14/07/2008 11:28
if you're serious about starting a veg garden, contact your local Department of Agriculture. Rocks have to be removed, but what also works really well is tyre gardens, where you build gardens with old tyres, fill the tyres with potting soil and use them to plant in. Reduces the need to remove rocks, but may need more water. Mulch well to help counter that! You can produce a plenty of food in a small area.
On another note: land ownership is not a right, but a privilege. - liesl |
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Cultured appetite 14/07/2008 11:41
Some of us have been taught to appreciate the finer gastronomic delights. Yes, they are things you do not find in South Africa and have to be imported, so we buy and enjoy impored smoked salmon, or baluga caviar once in a while. But I love curried tripe (tripe bought at Woolies) done in yogurt with samp, all of them home grown products, not backyard grown & slaughtered. For those of us who have evolved from baboons or some kind of a thing that crawled from a hole in the ground (to be cont) - Joe |
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