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You make alot of sense.
03/10/2007 09:23
Your article makes alot of sense, but, there is always a but, because you are white, and not pro-ANC, you will be labelled a racist. Finish and klaar. The leaders of our country are so blindly committed to their "struggle buddies", that the country can burn, as long as they have their friends and their travel budgets. Voters need to open their eyes... - Villian |
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Constructive Crit.
03/10/2007 09:29
Hard to disagree when you put it like that. Eish man, i still want to have a stable majority/black govornment in South africa for my children. The ANC will not die overnight, so their is no need to be so secretive and defensive. My party needs to do the right thing for its public, black and white regardless, and we will ride out the african civil crisis storm to be be united african leaders. When it is finished raining, maybe their will be a rainbow ne? - Khaya |
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fir to govern?
03/10/2007 09:32
You will soon realize that the negotiated settlement of 1994 and our constitution is not worth the paper it's written on for the ANC. I mean, it should be obvious to anyone with half an IQ that these people only have honour for themselfs. - AJ |
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politics
03/10/2007 09:40
Well said!About time as well - gerhard |
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Excellent
03/10/2007 09:44
Excellent piece Max!!!
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Too Logical
03/10/2007 09:46
Hi Max, intelligent comments, but too logical. Don't count on those who need to read this most to pay attention. Mbeki and Co. are like George Bush: calling critics unpatriotic. Mbeki's speech at the UN recently was a good one, but hypocritical coming from him. I can't get over the fact that he lived for years & had a great education in a 1st world country, yet he thinks like a backward ignoramous regarding Aids and democracy. How is that possible? Perhaps he's wilfully blind. We're screwed. - Saffa |
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African politicians
03/10/2007 09:51
Excellent article and so very true. Unfortunately, South Africa and the rest of Africa will never change because these so-called politicians are crazy, power hungry, money grabbing savages. They fight many years for for their own "freedom" but as soon as they get it, they try so hard to destroy it. - DHV |
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Wise Words
03/10/2007 10:17
I am trying so hard to find the words for the complete disgust, mistrust, anger and heartache I feel for the ANC clan. Their decline in morals and values is a disgrace.
I quote Martin Luther King Jr. "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere"; "A lie cannot live"; "Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness".
HOW THE MIGHTY HAVE FALLEN! You have plundered our country. The populous must vote you out. - Alicia |
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ANC Definitely Fit To Govern
03/10/2007 10:26
Of course the ANC is fit to govern. SA is an African country trying hard to conform to African Third World standards and has a backward Third World governing party voted for by people with a Third World mentality. So what's the problem? - Brenda |
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ANC
03/10/2007 10:26
I will admit to not knowing a whole lot about the history of the ANC (in the 80's, repeated lessons on the Great Trek seemed to be of more importance) however, I would seriously doubt that they (Luthuli, Sisulu and even Govan) behaved the way the current 'leaders' are behaving. Infact I would go so far as to say they are probably turning in their graves at what has become of the ANC today. - AS |
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Required reading
03/10/2007 10:28
Great article, Max. This should be required reading for all blindly loyal, sycophantic ANC followers. Don't expect too much, though, as this would require the readers to think,analyse and make independent decisions....something the party faithful seem incapable of doing. - jonno |
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I can't understand
03/10/2007 10:32
It boggles my mind how ANYONE can still vote for this party! Can someone PLEASE explain? - Juan |
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Ironic
03/10/2007 10:40
Funny thing is that 66% of the country will continue to support the ANC irrespective of how immoral it operates. This echoes the action of white voters pre-94. It seems that all people find it very hard to see the fault in their own kind. - Wilhelm Kuys |
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Brilliant !!
03/10/2007 10:44
Finally! Someone with some logic and common sense. Pity our so-called leaders will probably never grasp the concept of either. Lets hope that the few remaining people in government who actually do have the best interests of the public at heart, stay there and arent 'evicted' by their incompetent peers! - I.S |
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Fit to criticise??
03/10/2007 10:46
The only problem with critics is that they don?t want to be criticized. Max just like you have the right to label them (ANC lot) as drunkards, thieves, denialists etc, they also have the right to label you. Isn?t that what democracy is??? The second problem with analysts is that they assume their opinion is the public opinion and represents the majority of SA which is unfortunately not true. I think the political analysts and media must also be more tolerant accept their racist tendencies, political interests etc. - Mlu |
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Welcome to the real world
03/10/2007 10:48
Max, it's nice to see you have woken up and seen the ANC for what it is and not blindly following them because you thought it atoned for your heritage - the truth is, it's too little too late. South Africa is finished and in a very few years it will be "Zim II" - you will have plenty of time to think about it when you are waiting in the bread queue! - Erix |
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The blurring of the line . . .
03/10/2007 10:49
Excellent column Max. The ANC have shown an increasing blurred line between party & state interest.
The ANC have clearly not grasped some fundamental concepts about democracy: checks & balances & criticism are part & parcel of the open & transparent (words the ANC once used then forgot about) process of an elected form of government - anything less is a Zanufication of politiek. - Dee |
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Masses
03/10/2007 11:13
Unfortunately the masses are blinded by the fact that these leaders "led them to freedom" and so will blindly vote them in again.
The truth is, what real alternative do they have? For South Africa to be a true democracy, the ANC needs to split along the lines of all these divisions and then the people can vote for the party they really believe in. At least that way they are unlikely to have a 67% majority enabling them to change our hardwon constitution at will.... - DW |
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Standards
03/10/2007 11:20
Some interestinf insight, however i think the problem is that the majority of thinking people do not understand the Standards of the Present ANC.
I am sure the Party would agree that if the present ANC did not have DOUBLE STANDARDS, They would have NO STANDARDS at ALL - Paul |
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ability to govern
03/10/2007 11:20
Somewhat starrey-eyed about previous ANC leaders. Apart from Mandela, none of them was tested in the real world of governing and even Mandela was president during an extraordinary time. Is Mbeki not just a typical of the inadequacies of politicians through the ages? - Niel |
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Fit to govern
03/10/2007 11:24
Well said Max!
Unfortunately, it seems that all freedom movements which eventually get into Government forget about democracy in their endeavours to keep the "party" in power.
Our Government is perhaps not as violent or zealous as other governments in this regard but they definitely carry on the trend.
Sometimes ruling parties must take decisions that are hurtful to them and their party but are in the interests of the country. I don't believe this lot are capable of doing so. - Malcolm |
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zuma must go
03/10/2007 11:26
i think this country will suffer and crime will prevail should zuma become president.
this must not be allowed to happen. - MrT |
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Best column
03/10/2007 11:27
Hi Max you are a true south african and a great african indeed,We should embrace one another as to create a good multicultural and a democratized envy nation of africa and the whole world as well.I believe that is what Madiba and Mr De-Klerk agreed upon. - Benny |
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Fit to govern.....
03/10/2007 11:29
Max, thank you for this. Once again an excellent colomn. - JB |
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Fit to govern
03/10/2007 11:30
I agree with you Max.I am alarmed at how quickly the ANC has changed from a caring party to a party where everyone wants to be king.I often wonder whether the ANC is aware that not everyone who vote for them are card carrying members.So they should be careful how they conduct themselves, it is not only about themselves but the whole country.Max you are one of the few analysts in this country who always try and give a fair comment without taking anyone's side. - Godfrey |
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no majority
03/10/2007 11:31
40 million South Africans of which 40 percent or 16 million voted of which 75 percent or 12 million voted ANC. It boils down to a mere 30 percent of people voted for the ruling party and definitely not the majority. But this is politics ........ - MARIO |
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United opposition
03/10/2007 11:33
The ANC has too much support and will probably rule for the next 100 years if we all dont melt with global warming by then . So what can we do ?All the opposition parties must unite to have a powerful opposition and can keep the ANC in check. In this way they cant just get away with anything. Mbeki you are not fit to do anything!!! - Zee |
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bit of ANCstory
03/10/2007 11:53
hmm... given that any suggestion that the ANC has *anything whatsoever* in common with the Nats is normally greeted (at the very least) with splutterings and frothing at the mouth, I don't suppose this is a good time to point out that they did exactly the same thing for 40 years? (who knows - it maight make them change their ways a bit...nope, sorry, don't think so...) - phil |
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Stop paying taxes by leaving...
03/10/2007 12:02
The only way to make the government listen - is not to pay taxes. The only way to do this legally is to go and work in another country (it is easier than you think). Why keep paying high taxes to a government who does not protect or care about the tax payers? With a vote of no confidence to our president and his government, I will (God-willing) be leaving this beloved blood-stained country soon. This government does not deserve a law-abiding taxpayer like me, nor does I, my wife or my children deserve a government like this. Should there be serious efforts and results by government to better this country for all ? I?ll be one of the first to come back and pay taxes?
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Read a good dictionary lately
03/10/2007 12:05
I would invite everybody out there to look in their dictionary/ies. (hopefully a good one)
The word "democracy" comes from two greek words: DEMOS meaning PEOPLE and KRATIA meaning POWER/RULE. So democracy means "the people rule"
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Mlu
03/10/2007 12:07
Mlu - have you actually read the content of this article, or simply the author's name? Do you feel there is no truth in what is said, or are you simply side-stepping the issues mentioned? I find your comments bizarre at best. - MJ |
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Mlu
03/10/2007 12:08
Blinded loyalty my friend. Political analysts must accept their racist tendencies??? If you cannot see where the ANC are heading you are blind, there is sooo much in house fighting it is so blatantly clear that there is a power struggle which WILL have negative consequences for this country. The rainbow nation has dissipated in the storm cloud of power-mongers. - A DJ |
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Thabo Mbeki
03/10/2007 12:12
President Mbeki is a very clever man, always two or three steps ahead of opponents. Read the book,"Thabo Mbeki and the battle for the soul of the ANC." Thabo is working his way and entreching himself in our future for many years to come.Watch how the power is shifting, future presidents of this country will become a mere puppet to the ruling ANC. Bad times ahead in my eyes with regard to our shaky democracy. - Glenn |
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All is not lost...
03/10/2007 12:26
The current politicians carry a lot of baggage due to past injustices - maybe the responsibilities of freedom, fair governance & accountability are much more tricky than they thought along with overcoming resentment for all those years of apartheid. However, the next generation of politicians might have integrity due to equal opportunities, world travel & through watching the current lot's questionable governance. Let's hope so. - Saffa |
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People still struggling
03/10/2007 12:32
Hi, Last night I came across an old man 60+ had nothing under NP has nothing under the ANC. Now he probably has to work through the pain barrier every day to make min. wage.
Now my point is it would cost how much to feed a elderly man or how many people could have been fed with the money Monto spend on the personal add. Politicians travel costs 300k for 1 trip overseas. Surely this money could be put to better use. Our politicians are not accountable for their actions. - Jason Marriott |
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Patriotic
03/10/2007 12:36
Max have these people forgotten so soon about your contribition in defeating APARTHEID.They should remember thet it was trough your efforts that PRIME EVIL himself and aparthied DEATH SQUARTS where exposed.I will never forget you broer.Sabelo-Klerksdorp - MICHAEL |
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well said but................
03/10/2007 12:40
Hi Max,i agree with most of what you said except the issue of the negotiated settlement. Most people are Landless,Jobless and live in the most harzadous environment whilst a vast track of land is empty an idle and there's nothing the goverment can do because of these. the only people benefitting from these so called "negotiated settlements" are whites and a few politically conected blacks. - Wonder |
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Max and Khaya
03/10/2007 12:48
Goeie artikel Max - jy's skerp soos n skeer lem my ou perd. Khaya, I applaud your honesty ("I still want to have a stable majority/black govornment in South africa"). Too often we don't say what we want to not take sides or to be politically correct. I'll be happy with a black government (they can be pink for all I care) as long as they have the interests of all SA'ns at heart. You and I both suffer from hidden agendas and you and I will both benefit from a Gov that puts all of it's people first. - Moto |
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