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Goosebumps
05/03/2008 09:22
I couldn't, even to myself, put in words what exactly the reason was why this incident made me ashamed of being in the same demography as these evil idiots.
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The great depression
05/03/2008 09:23
Thanks Max for a great article. This whole incident brings the following quote to mind:
We need not worry so much about what man descends from - it's what he descends to that shames the human race."
---Mark Twain
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Thank you
05/03/2008 09:24
I needed this from you..nothing more to add...My hat off to you sir.. - kolobe |
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Assistance at hand, Max
05/03/2008 09:25
If Max Du Preezz emigrated, I would be happy to contribute money for his ticket, should he needs it - LvH |
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News
05/03/2008 09:26
Mini, get something newsworthy to write about. - Al |
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So true!
05/03/2008 09:27
I totally agree with you,Max!The behaviour of
those students was unacceptable and there are no
excuses for their behaviour or attitudes.Respect
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what is your point?
05/03/2008 09:27
Get to the point man, are you condemning whites for the video, black journalists, government, eskom. I watched the video on third degree last night and yes it was a shameful act, but i dont think it warrants the media circus surrounding it at the moment, expel the students, move on. I wasnt involved in apartheid nor was I involved in four white morons making a stupid movie, stop making black people the victims and white people the oppressors, and next time you write a column make your point. - zedisdead |
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The Great Depression
05/03/2008 09:27
Max, I so agree with you! Politicians are as trustworthy and believable as the people who send internet "prize-winning" e-mails - what saddens me is when I see the man in the street not seeing himself accountable for his actions. The UFS Four must realise that they have badly stuffed up, and must bear the consequences of what they have done, and not now try to justify it by looking elsewhere for their "reasons". - Dave Robbins |
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I agree
05/03/2008 09:31
The actions of these students were a disgrace. It shames me as an Afrikaans speaking person. Somehow I'm not surprised though. The old South Africa is alive in some parts of this country. I hope the law will take its course and these fools will serve as an example to others. Well done Max. - pete |
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Max se depressie
05/03/2008 09:31
My hart bloei vir jou depressie Max. Miskien moet jy bietjie beet of knoffel probeer! - Annalise |
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What else is new?
05/03/2008 09:32
The great reality of SA has sunken in! In Africa it is the SECOND decade which makes or breaks a country. Max, CODESA was a farce and the NP ran with it's tail between it's legs and capitulated to people who were trained in USSR, North Korea, Libya, Lebanon...Do you think they will forget their lessons whilst abroad? People with nothing to lose and can be swayed by populism have been the cause of the downfall of Africa: Rwanda, DRC, Liberia, Sierra Leone. M'shini wam - Manto_Zumas Revenge |
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Does murder of children depress you?
05/03/2008 09:32
Funny how reactions can differ. I am not depressed by the video. I think that the response and outcry has forced this type of person to think. Those students did not know right from wrong. Now they do. What does depress me is the news on this web site and on the radio. Not once off. It is every day. And for every crime we read about, there are hundreds more which are not reported. What about the young girl who was raped by 6 men in a park in Durban in front of her father? - lad |
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Excellent
05/03/2008 09:33
Couldn't have said it any better! - doep |
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I agree
05/03/2008 09:34
I would ask the question: Would they make a video of their mothers doing that? I very much doubt it! It's all about respect and they didn't have any for those woman. - Charlie |
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Depression
05/03/2008 09:36
Thanks Max, now I am also depressed. The South African (white male - is that allowed) has a attitude that they are always right and their point of view should never be questioned. I suppose it is to the credit of the National Party. Its is scary how many people feel the same way as the sentiment you mention in your article. - P.W. ISDEAD |
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Right
05/03/2008 09:37
Max,your article is true and presice.I was not sure why I also was feeling rather down.I now have my answer thanks.Things will get better they say. - Camel Man |
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Yes Max
05/03/2008 09:39
We've all been through this before. But the fact remains, white people in general will be lambasted for this for enternity. No matter how many time we apologise for their behaviour you'll always get the git who blabs about how they not going to apologize for anything and so the wheel of racism, hate and blame continue to turn. I too am proudly SA'n but am now considering my options. We will never be forgiven, never be accepted no matter what. It's time to go. - All good things come to an end. |
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A nod and a shake..
05/03/2008 09:41
I nod my head in agreement with you max and shake it in despair at the ignorance and hypocrisy displayed in this county. Being neither white nor black i sit in awe and watch how race relations disintegrate. Its as if each one has waited for this opportunity to throw stones defending their race. What a waste... - olive |
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Yes Max
05/03/2008 09:43
We've all been through this before. But the fact remains, white people in general will be lambasted for this for enternity. No matter how many time we apologise for their behaviour you'll always get the git who blabs about how they not going to apologize for anything and so the wheel of racism, hate and blame continue to turn. I too am proudly SA'n but am now considering my options. We will never be forgiven, never be accepted no matter what. It's time to go. - All good things come to an end. |
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The video
05/03/2008 09:44
How do you condem the video and ignore the senceless killings . 3 Families had memebers killed on Monday. PLEASE FOCUS on the lack of respect for human life, and the enviroment. - Andre |
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Depressed Max
05/03/2008 09:44
The only reason people are changing there views and opinions is because there is now two sides being told. Not just the one side distorted picture.I would not be seprised if this hole thing was concocted at the FBJ meeting. - Chris |
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Jeez...
05/03/2008 09:47
Max you are a Wop! - Crispins |
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Depressed
05/03/2008 09:49
Max, great article as usual and I have to agree 100%. I hate what those idiots did and do not condone it for one minute. If the roles were reversed would we accept it as a senseless prank? I think not! We are 14 yrs on and we are all still racists yet no-one will stand up and admit it. We all need help and large doses of it. Apartheid is still alive and well even if we are a "rainbow nation". - Nicky |
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How Right You Are
05/03/2008 09:50
Max tou've hit the nail on the head.
Like you all of the happenings since December last year I have been trying to stay optimistic and not get side tracked by the masses. Who are saying that they are leaving to Australia etc. (Besides I'm sure the Aussies will put a halt to the mass influx of South Africans).
But I still remain optimistic, all these changes are presenting new economic opportunities for us, and with all the guys leaving in the future more Job opportunities for the unemployed :-) - Trying to be Optimistic |
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lack of respect
05/03/2008 09:50
I initially thought it was an initiation ceremony, but then discovered that the women in the video were cleaning staff at the university. It seems very strange that these students should wish to humiliate women old enough to be their mothers. It shows a complete lack of respect for the dignity of others. - alissa |
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Moral high ground - Gone!
05/03/2008 09:52
The worst of it is that we have lost the moral high ground. No longer can we, the youth, say that we did not have anything to do with Apartheid. We have no credibility left. If things (heaven forbid) goes like in Zim, the rest of the world will sit back and say, "Well remember that video, what did you expect?" - Hendrik |
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Depressed only now?
05/03/2008 09:57
Hi Max you suddenly after all get depressed by watching a video where all the participants were laughing and yoking, suggesting they were enjoying themselves at the time. I do not say it was right, but why did you/do you not get depressed where people are almost daily tortured, butchered and murdered with clear racial/ethnic undertones (I do not detect any laughter or enjoyment with the victims and their families). - Bitterbek |
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Racist undercurrent doesn't discriminate
05/03/2008 09:59
There's such a racist undercurrent in SA. We can all feel it. It's like a monster lurking, and we hear it rustling in the bushes. Finally a video emerges - and this monster has a colour and a face. But let's not kid ourselves - racism is doing one thing that SA govt?s haven?t been able to get right for years - Complete impartiality to black or white. Racism camps happily on both sides of this "Fence" that our governments build higher and higher with their attempts to quell it. - Frog in heating water |
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Fantastic
05/03/2008 09:59
It is a great article and you really put it in perspective by suggesting the reversal of roles in the UFS video. Those kids should be left in the middle of a township and lynched. There is not much to convince us that SA will not become another Banana Republic. Things seem to be out of control. With criminals at the helm, things are a free-for-all. Africa will never rid itself of cronyism and nepotism. Western morals are rejected because they come from the "oppressors". Let savagery reign! - Eduardo |
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Listen to yourself
05/03/2008 09:59
Integration takes hundreds of years it cannot be forced, without minority rights or protected living spaces for white people we will continue to immigrate, little by little and during that process your own language and culture as an Afrikaner will unavoidably die. The video at UFS was wrong in no uncertain terms but the retaliation of threatening white students with murder and rape as have happened is worse. No if the video was made by black students insulting whites there would not have been blood as you have said, but if white people where responsible for killing one sixth as many black people as they kill whites CNN would only be reporting about SA and the world would hear how evil white people where. - joukoerman |
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UFS
05/03/2008 10:00
Max. Yes, what the UFS students did was wrong, and it shows theire disrespect and racism towards theire elders. BUT STILL - No one got hurt or got killed. How can you (and the rest of the SA media) simply brush aside the blatant racist murders and torturing to death (of old people on farms) ? This is even more disgusting, and one-sided reporting wil eventually result in people sympathising with the 4 ufs students. - Juan |
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Ek stem saam, Max
05/03/2008 10:03
Yes Max, I agree. I am shocked by the response of some people who actually try to write positive stuff about that shocking video. I was also very very surprised to hear that the UFS only this started to address the segregation in their hostels. I really thought this was sorted out in 1994! The little apartheid island of the UFS is also to blame for the system they continued to perpetuate, while the rest of the country changed years ago! - retiefdv |
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Get your priorities right
05/03/2008 10:04
You say you don't get depressed by the utter collapse of the country you live in, but the actions of four students make you teary-eyed? I don't understand how that works. four people were disgraced in this incident and you feel depressed about it, but when 50 million people are disgraced, you feel nothing? Maybe it just shows your lack of character. - JP Strauss |
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Thank you Max
05/03/2008 10:04
Our nation is in a state and going downhill fast.. but be realistic...there always was and always will be the bullies, idiots, egits, stupid beyond words, active in our society. You and I as white Afrikaners were probably both, as were our children, victims of this evil, egged on by the parents, of white bullies. And they are amongst all the nations and tribes of SA. JZ being no. 1.
It's time the small people stand up and be counted. If we can really stand together, there is hope for all of us. - Alicia |
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Yeah Max
05/03/2008 10:08
I think those student should be punished for what they did, but a while back Carte Blanche had a documentary about MacDonald Chefs being caught on a hidden camera spiting at our food. I used to buy food there but as far as I can remember this documentary was swept under the carpet and I have not till today heard an apology from MacDonald?s or there Chefs.
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Depression
05/03/2008 10:09
The race tensions will not be easily solved, even by new generations of white children who have nothing to do with appartheid. I see a majority of young (5 to 18 year old)white children who are racist, and without appartheid programming, due to witnessing violent and brutal crime being committed against them and their families by mainly black perpetrators. Then there is AA which they only see as racism against them. Many of these children, affected by crime are afraid of & distrust black people. - Dave |
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Of course there will be idiots...
05/03/2008 10:10
What is the point of this article Max? That there are still racist whites? You are indeed a visionary. Very clever...What you missed is the fact that what gross people out varies. For a lot of people, the Noord Street Mini skirt incident was ?worse? than the video. Yet, it did not make international news. - flamby baderbuis |
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Exactly
05/03/2008 10:10
That is exactly what I have been thinking and telling everybody from the first time I saw the video. "How would you feel if they were doing that to your mother?" And if they still think it is not that bad, I know they are racist, so I change the question to "How would you feel if the students were black and they were doing that to your mother?" - Kobus |
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Cowards
05/03/2008 10:11
Imagine if those cowards who pour boiling water over people or burn people with hot irons could make a video of their savage actions,what would the world say then. Imagine how depressed you would be then. - Ian |
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Saying sorry
05/03/2008 10:11
Didn't we give the ultimate apology when we PEACEFULLY handed over power in 1994? - JP Strauss |
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Ashamed
05/03/2008 10:11
I'm not an Afrikaner, but as a white person feel utterly ashamed by what the Free State "white trash" did. How can, so called educated youngsters treat another human being like that is beyond me. - RJ |
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And you point is?
05/03/2008 10:11
What excactly is the point of the article? Are you now all of a sudden depressed because of one incident committed by your fellow Afrikaner? Oh come on. The Big White South African depression has hit me a while ago, mostly because so many people I know are leaving, I fear I might be the only one left.... being an SAPS reservist and all is not even worth it anymore because I am fighting for a banana republic. - dude |
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You are so right Mr du Preez.
05/03/2008 10:15
God blessed a black man with the ability to forgive. Irrespective of what happened blood will never flow because of this and that's a guarantee. What really amazes me is the fact that these women will allow these boys to gedrade them in such a way. Why didnt they refuse to participate point blank because I dont think these boys wud have harmed them! On the other hand this is a blessing in disguise as this serves to remind people that racism is very much alive in our society. - Muzi |
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Depressed Undressed
05/03/2008 10:17
There's a tense racist undercurrent in SA. We can all feel it. It's like a monster lurking, and we hear it rustling in the bushes. Finally a video emerges - and this monster has a colour and a face. But let's not kid ourselves - racism is doing one thing that SA haven?t been able to get right for years - Complete impartiality to black or white. Racism camps happily on both sides of this "Fence" that our governments build higher and higher with their attempts to quell it. - Frog |
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Depressed
05/03/2008 10:17
I agree with you Max,it's difficult not to be depressed these days.Just when you think things are becoming better,then something crops up.I think there are people who are hellbent on depressing us,both in government and in the broader society.We,ve got racists,criminals,corrupt politicians,incompetent govt officials,all these people contribute to our depression.But what scares me is the response of some whites about the racists video, that it's really just a joke,these are the untransformed ones. - Godfrey |
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Depression
05/03/2008 10:19
I think a lot of us are suffering from this state of mass depression. But why are we only depressed when 4 white idiots screw up in such a spectacular way. Why is it that normal, progressive and thinking (afrikaans) whites need to shoulder the responsibility for the actions of these inland, backward morons. I see no similar responsibility being taken by any other group for the actions of the bad apples among them. - aj |
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Idiots
05/03/2008 10:24
They should just punish the 4 idiots, so that this can end now. But also the comments made to kill and rape white woman, must also taken serious. African history has shown us every time people get angry, people die, and things get destroyed. - padkos |
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Sad
05/03/2008 10:24
The problem i feel is that the more crazy our leaders in the country become the more we will see these kinds of incidents. There are no morals left in our country the very people who are meant to be setting an example of how to act and conduct oneself (our leaders) are all a bunch of idiots and criminals. This mentality will filter down into the fabric of our society. Its a shame, but i feel its unavoidable. - David |
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Stop generalising
05/03/2008 10:24
I'm not ashamed for anything. I don't condone violence or humiliating anyone. These 4 idiots should be expelled, nothing more, nothing less. But to point the finger at all whites or all Afrikaaners for this is just as racist as pointing the finger at all blacks bcause a small percentage of them are violent criminals. Everyone from politicians to the average person needs to stop playing the race card and get on with trying to make SA the great country it has the potential to be. - Draco |
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What if....
05/03/2008 10:27
What if those cleaners were white and not black? They seemed to be having fun while they were doing this and were laughing all the time, it never seemed that they were unhappy or forced to do these thing? They obviously knew it was all a game, or else they would've protested against doing it at least. If those were white middle-aged women doing the same thing everyone would've said that they were fun loving people up for a challenge. But when white people do something to black people it's racism? - Buzi |
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Video
05/03/2008 10:28
Your letter started quite interesting and I thought at last, someone will put the black on white barbaric attacks into perspective. But no, Max is too afraid to say anything about this, because this video is much more violent, barbaric, etc. The brutal attacks on whites is not that important. Be depressed, be very depressed, for soon some black person will kill you and your family. - johan |
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Now I'm depressed....
05/03/2008 10:30
I became depressed when when I read that the UFS video depressed Mr. du Preez more than the the murder of approximately 50 people a day and the rape of approximately 147 woman and children a day...Max du Preez is a excellent politician. - Gideon |
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Idiots
05/03/2008 10:33
Max,
I agree with your article. But i think the media are a bunch of sensationalists.
There is far more worse things happening in this country accross the devide on a daily basis.
Kids being murdered, raped, people being brutally killed or mamed.
If one kid is murdered in the UK it is huge and I mean huge. Non stop for weeks. Here if anybody is killed it is a non event.
I really think that this UFS issue is a non event that could have been dealt with off the radar. - Deon Botha |
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Racism
05/03/2008 10:35
Racism is immortal. It is a demon that is passed from generation to generation whether u were born pre or post 94. God will judge those who allow themselves to be used by this demon. I belive there are a lot of white people who are colour blind but unfortunately then there are those including the four boys that will continue to give the white race a bad name. - Muzi |
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lad..They didn't know right from wrong...
05/03/2008 10:38
How did they get into the university? But out of all of this i commend the many white people who condemmed this evil act, i also commend black people who condem violence against whites.There are decent people on both sides. - Godfrey |
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Hate to say it but I agree with you Max
05/03/2008 10:40
The problem is that Afrikaners are feeling marginalised and feel obliged to make counter arguments when we stuff up. It does not make either situation right. Farm murders are a huge problem that is ignored, but so is white racism.
By the way the thought of leaving is also messing with me. - Doorboot |
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Label One, Label All?
05/03/2008 10:40
I must have watched the wrong video as the one I saw on Sunday Times website showed everyone laughing, and having a real giggle and no one forcing anyone to do anything. That aside, whatever the underlying motive, I fail to see how the behavior of a few white students can be representative of a whole nation of white people. In that case, should we be labelling all black people as highjackers, murderers and thieves because those crimes are committed predominantly by blacks in this country?i - Colleen |
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Get on with it...
05/03/2008 10:41
What amazes me is the fact that this isolated case of human humiliation, yes, that's all it was, is focused on. The fact that this is actually what makes you depressed and not the forementioned topics, gets me depressed. Were anyone hurt, killed, raped or stolen from? No. They played along, were not forced into doing anything against their will. I do not condone this behaviour, but there are more serious and sick things happening on a regular basis, repeatedly. Punish them and get over it! - zeus |
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Sure.....
05/03/2008 10:43
Racism is present in South Africa. Its impossible to ignore the FACT that is black- on white crime. Revenge for the apartheid past, perhaps? Every time something like this video surfaces, the whole country cries Wolf, but everybody ignores the obvious and blatantly racially motivated violent crimes committed in the white suburbs and farming communities. I condemn the actions of the four white students in the video. But there are far worse crimes being committed as we speak. - Igor |
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I agree with Max (1)
05/03/2008 10:43
I agree with you sir. It's disgusting and shameful that blatant racism is not only increasing sharply among a new generation of degenerates, but that it is being condoned and excused becasue "black people do bad things too" - its stupid and low. it's also unfortunate that some people believe that all white people teach their kids to hate, kill and be a***holes. Please note: we are not all the same. and we also want to take a stand against hate crimes - skielik & ufs are both hate crimes - leaving |
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Far better example
05/03/2008 10:44
Those fools thought they made an excellent video on what new South Africans would need to tolerate should they want to integrate. They did not consider that the real issue is transformation. They could shoot video footage at any of the other uni's that transformed and show the increase in garbage, decrease in the learning ethic, increased lack of morals standards etc. etc.
The journalists are defending their lack of getting a view from the other side. - Vuvusela |
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JUSTIFY INJUSTICE
05/03/2008 10:44
Blacks have never condoned the killing of whites in any way; in fact we do feel your pain and agree that this is an injustice which needs to be addressed. Blacks are also killed hijacked and tortured by the same criminals ? I believe that theses criminals have no regard for skin colour and act indiscriminately. We as black will never ever justify the senseless murder or rape of any person in this country ? why should whites believe that they have the right to justify the racist actions of any other white person. Wrong is wrong and right is right finish and klaar. - colin |
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What about other issues
05/03/2008 10:46
Lad at 9:32 asks a pertinent question. Hundreds of shocking crime stories that are not made such a fuss about. Are you depressed about those, Max, or do you not want to upset the ANC by venting your disgust at on-going crime in the country? - S |
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MUZI
05/03/2008 10:46
I agree with you my brother.
Yes, we have black on white crime, we have white on black racism.
We have so much black on black crime that is not reported because it does not sell.
The vast moderate majority of us of all colours, must stick together. forgive each other, fight the evil together, and remember, as you do unto the least of my brothers ,so you do unto Me.
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'Afrikaner' mentality
05/03/2008 10:48
I am a next generation 'Afrikaner'.I have children @ school and have benefited from a prejudicial government in the late seventies/eighties.I have seen the Boerkinders @ work before.They are also called boelies, but I used to call them Idiots.Max du Preez,you are hitting the nails right into the Idiots'skulls andthey don't like that.As long as these Boerkinders get away with it, there will be murders/rapes etc.We/I strongly condemn it,we should realise 99% of its birth is in Apartheid. - Dr.Phil |
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depressed?
05/03/2008 10:49
I am surprised that the utterances of four students depress you and not so much all the bugger ups of SA officials who failed to alleviate those feelings by their continued race related decision making. Instead they fuel those feelings and cry "baby" when it surfaces. Every body outside South Africa knows that "social re-engineering" takes time and careful manoeuvring, not just legislation. It is commonly called "change management". Not so the ANC and its officials. The film is just one symptom of a general irritation with people of all races with the ANC Government. Surprisingly, all these things do not depress you. A little like getting irritated when your roof falls on your head but not when you see the people stealing the pillars that hold your roof. - Benzo |
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Spot on!!!
05/03/2008 10:51
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Racism is only racism if it comes from a white male.
05/03/2008 10:51
Want an example? Some neighbours in my complex made a lot of noise. So I asked each one to be more considerate. First I spoke to him, then wrote a friendly letter, then if needed, a more stern letter. Guess what? The white ones either bettered their ways, or at worst, ignored me. But my black neighbour came to my door, started shouting, swearing and threatening, and told me that I was the actual problem, because I'm (you guessed it) a racist. How's that - HE makes the noise, but I'M a racist! - Mark |
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UFS video
05/03/2008 10:53
As an Afrikaner I think it is totally disgusting what those four boys did. The fact that there are a lot of people saying it wasn't so bad or look at the farm murders is just a symptom of the many old and new hurts in SA that are not being addressed and are allowed to fester. But I don't for one minute believe that there are any normal Afrikaners who would condone embarrassing and humiliating old ladies - it doesn't exist in our culture either. - Deon |
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Zuma
05/03/2008 10:55
You know Max, I felt exactly like you when Zuma became president of the ANC, however issues like this (including the 6 year old girl) forces one to think that maybe transformation must be forced in order to get more blacks into jobs and hopefully this will spurn economic growth. I cannot help but to think, maybe Zuma will assist SA to force us to transform. - Realist2 |
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Get over it, leave.
05/03/2008 10:56
If you have no responsibility for apartheid (I don't), don't let misplaced nostalgia for the patch of soil you were born on keep you there.
No point staying somewhere where people will never let you forget something you did not do, take part in, condone, and even protest against, but instead discriminate against you and blame you on the basis of your skin color. Sound familiar?
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How can we all move on
05/03/2008 10:57
Max I have never really appreciated you. This has not changed. I really wish for the day when we can look at an incident like this and say "how can anyone be so disrespectful to another person. And for that they should put on church square to be disrespected" - no matter what the colour of the skin. Until then I will be depressed with my country that I will never leave. - joh |
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PUNISHMENT
05/03/2008 11:01
The 4 students didn't become disrespectful racists by themselves. I blame their parents, environment and low IQ's. Teens and young adults are becoming increasingly aggressive and I say bring lyfstraf terug! - Gatvol Afrikaner |
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Brilliantly said Max
05/03/2008 11:01
I am also an Afrikaner.The video made me ashamed to be an Afrikaner. However, after being condemned by all Afrikaans organisations, it seemed that it was an isolated incident by four offtrack students. I could find peace in saying: "Ons is nie almal so nie." However, the seemingly huge support that the 4 individuals are getting from fellow Afrikaans speaking people makes me wonder? "Ons is almal so!" However, I trust that Afrikaners can rise above this incident and live a life integrity. - Willem |
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Its a shame!
05/03/2008 11:04
This group of young men that are privileged to have the resources, advantage and opportunity to be at a tertiary institution, have gravely missed out on seeing what a luxury all that is. Shame on them. Shame on the spaces they wasted in those classrooms where people who want to improve their lives could have sat, ditto the dorms where they slept where students used to living with entire families - all 4 generations in one room could have slept. Shame! I'm white and 30 and not leaving. - Dylan |
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Loosing perspective.
05/03/2008 11:06
What they (and the Skielik community shooter) did was unforgivable. Did it justify all the media attention - no. The excessive media coverage on isolated acts of racism only increases the tension between black and white. Just read the plakards branded by the protesters, count the race motivated farm murders and you realize racism is very much alive and well in this country. White on black racism is just not as newsworthy. - Phumba |
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Compare these guy's to JackAss Movies
05/03/2008 11:07
Jackass is an idiotic series of movies with a lot of youngsters pulling pranks on anyone and everyone. In most cases causing serious bodily harm and pain. This is not an isolated South African incident but a younger generation stupidity prank that does not deserve the attention given. This is why the youngsters cannot comprehend what the fuss is about because we the public have misunderstood the intensions of the DVD. Not racist but younger generation, easy target stupidity. hope you feel better - 2 minds |
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JP STRRAUSS - handover no apology
05/03/2008 11:08
The handover of power was not given - people died for this freedom so do not make as if the white led government was accommodated in this regard as they had no other choice. You as white South African should be thankful to the ANC for being willing at the time to negotiate a peaceful handover otherwise civil war would have been the result. - colin |
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Accountibility1
05/03/2008 11:08
Max, I condemn what these idiots did. They should have thought about the consequences and should be held accountible for their actions. But so also, must the gov and CEO's be held accountible for the power crisis, crime, education and healthcare in this country. The problem is: THERE IS NO ACCOUNTIBILITY!!! Instead of the CEO of Eskom and our Minister of Minerals and Energy's heads axed, they are patted on the back and told hat it is OK? - Johan |
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Confused
05/03/2008 11:11
Did you guys not read the article. Max's focus at the end of the day, wasn't about black or white or initiation traditions and he probably does not condone crime. What he does point out is that these young boys had no respect for elders. And he was asking...What if it was black students making fun of white grandma's from old age homes? Would you guys still think the video was innocent and simply tradition? - Student |
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Accountibility2
05/03/2008 11:12
They still earn enourmous amounts of money for costing SA MILLIONS a day in loss of income. Does that make any sense to you? We allow our Borders to be crossed illegally, beacause we have the spirit of UBUNTU, while SA'ns do not have jobs, housing and food? What about senseless killings, rapes and theft? Does THAT make any sense to you? - Johan |
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Oh Really now
05/03/2008 11:14
Well if this is the reason the "Depression finally overwhelmed" you then you seriously have your priorities screwed up. Yes, it was wrong. But please get real. There are far, FAR Bigger issues plauging this Country. At the rate the Murders are carrying on now, you soon wont have any more Fellow "Brainless clown" Afrikaners to criticize. - Eduan |
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The moral high ground
05/03/2008 11:14
Your deppresion is due to the loss of the moral high ground. Up to now us white citizens could look at the current state of affairs and and feel that we have tried to do our bit and that our side of the slate is clean. However, after the video and the certainly after the enexplainable defense of the issue, we have to face the fact that the white part of society are nowhere close to understanding the concept of dignity and respect. After all they were just a bunch of 'ousies'. - Andries |
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Only one reason
05/03/2008 11:14
The only reason for the media circus is that these idiots were dumb enough to film their stupidity. Just think how depressed you would be if we had videos of countless women and children being raped everyday, but we quickly forget about it because we didn't actually see the proof of it. It's just one more murder, one more rape to add to the list. - Whatever |
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Let me rather drink piss
05/03/2008 11:16
I am glad that you worked through the reason behind your Great Depression Max, but I would personally much rather be forced to drink a glass of someone's piss, than be savagely raped or murdered. There is unfortunately no question of which one is more likely to happen to me here though, is there? I must therefore refuse to immerse myself (pat-on-back-higher-self-like)in this one isolated incident, when we are all drowning in far too many incidents of hate and fear and pain. - Female Perspective |
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If the tables were turned
05/03/2008 11:19
Well said Max. it really comes down to your last paragraph-what if the tables were turned and it was black students abusing white middle-aged afrikaner women, possibly the mothers of these 4 thugs. The events at UFS should not be a black or white issue but rather a moral issue. - Al |
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Same uproar?
05/03/2008 11:21
With all the race uproar created by the jackass idiots on UFS campus, will this story (http://www.dieburger.com/Stories/News/17.0.187720628.aspx) get the same publicity and attention from all corners of the political, social and media spectrum, or will it be condoned to an insignificant little isolated incident in Robertson? Is this less of a racist issue or just less sensational and juicy? Lack of consistency gets me depressed. - Just wondering |
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