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Geraldine are you able? 06/06/2007 14:42
To teach fifty pupils in a classroom -Viva teachers
Run after a garbage truck collecting trash-Viva garbage collecters
Care for the sick- Viva nurses
Arrest a killer- Viva Policemen
Save a someone's life whose been in a crash or in a building that's on fire - Viva paramedics/firefighters
Can you book a wreckless motorist- Viva metro police.
Geraldine are you able?
Are you able? - The O' Jays |
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Strike. 06/06/2007 14:44
Thus far I have been loud and clear in my support of the strike. Your letter clearly voices all of my thoughts on the matter. I have to caution the strikers on their behaviour though, as assaults and damage to property will slowly but surely eat away the current public opinion. - Sarah |
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but... 06/06/2007 14:45
Unions do not belong in a democracy.
The union bosses are also to blame for these workers' hard life. Remember the security strike last year? If you did the calculations, they lost a lot of wage due to the strike, and they will never get that back. Its the equivalent of about 2 years worth of the actual increase. - JM |
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The offer by Fraser Moloketi is an i****t. 06/06/2007 14:46
How does she explain this, an employee earning R3000 a month 6% increase is R180 & for them they earn in the region of R90000, 57% increase is R51300. Come on fraser come with something better. - Ayanda |
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geraldine doing her job 06/06/2007 14:50
Why must Geraldine be fired. Because she does her job, because she does not give in to the demands made, because she takes a stance and stand by it. She is not the one making the final decisions anyway, it is much more complicated then that. Will you just give in, if your employees or your maid at home asks for a raise you see us unreasonable, or will you try and sit down and work something out. She has a far more tricky situation to deal with, so don't sit and judge her. - frank |
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When will we wake up? 06/06/2007 14:51
When I speak to my friends about the problems the current government strike is causing, I realise that a lot of them are still asleep...They bluntly say that there is nothing we can do to stop the current chaos. I say we can. Too long have we stood by and watched as our 'leaders' helped themselves to the riches of the land. How much longer should we be quiet about this. Let us stand united in telling this government that we won't take any of their bullying and corrupt feeding frenzy anymore. - Dr.Phil |
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Geraldine 06/06/2007 14:55
Mr President
Axe her for defrauding your employees - tick tock |
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Fire Fraser-Moleketi 06/06/2007 15:01
Exactly...I wouldn't work for the pittance they call a salary that is paid to our police, and then to still have to put my life in danger as well! We have qualified people - teachers, prosecutors, nurses etc all earning pathetically low salaries while our politicians get paid a fat salary for a load of rhetoric! - Wayne |
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Very well articulated 06/06/2007 15:03
Your point about the higher tax inflows is a very good point, and one that Geraldine conveniently forgets to mention. Trevor Manuel is on record as saying that government can afford much more than 6% - around 9% was his comment - so what on earth is she whining about???
Whenever I listen to the minister on radio - she always sounds as though she's just on the verge of breaking into hysterical laughter - there's a tremor of hilarity in her voice.
What's so funny, Madam Minister?? - Ron |
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12% is a favour. 06/06/2007 15:11
Considering the fact that there has been no salary increase for for years. Employees you are doing this dude a favour.I think 30% will make up for four years, and reasonable because it is less than 57% they got ("MPs"). We all want money as they do "MPs". - Mlungisi |
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When will you all wake up? 06/06/2007 15:13
Do you really think that The Minister just thought up this wage offer one night in her sleep. No she did not. This offer was put together by a group of departments who must see what is affordable to the country. If these strikers has a company, would they put their own company out of business by paying all the profit to salaries and wages? NO THEY WOULD NOT. These strikers should make the country work better and increase profits, then they can then claim some of these profits for themselves. - neville |
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No ways 06/06/2007 15:14
I find it laughable that the call is to fire the minister, no , lets rather fire the strikers. All this talk of people leaving the governement service to find better jobs is ridiculous. The better workers have left a long long time ago. The workers left dont deserve even 6%. I am appaled by the absolute lack of discipline an pride in ZA these days and it has nothing to do with salary. Its a culture an it needs to be rooted out , not even 50% would achieve that. Money is a hygienic factor.
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Sympathy 06/06/2007 15:15
I have a lot of sympathy for the government officials and particularly the teachers who, as professional people having to educate our future leaders, earn peanuts. No wonder all the well qualified teachers are leaving the occupation. Wheere will this leave our education system a few years from now?
I'd, however, like to see strikers refraining from the violence we're seeing and to respect the rights of others and our learners..... - Johnny |
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Wage negotiations 06/06/2007 15:23
Geraldine should consider the people who actually work the hardest to make the government look good. How do you expect these people to deliver "Bathopele". Funds were allocated in the budget for these people salaries so why is Geraldine being so difficult and we all know that we are loosing people in our medical and educational fields daily because the prospect overseas looks better. Geraldine help the people so they can deliver on what goverment expects from their people......... - Anonymous |
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One sided view 06/06/2007 15:24
I'm in the private sector and a lot of what J van Niekerk is talking about I owuld love to have as well. The difference is in the private sector normally you are managed via performance. Therefor we might get higher salaries. When will we start with performance management in the public sector. Give those lazy idiots who always compplain a 4% increase and the one that actually does a good job the 12%. Maybe we will get better service for all of them. - Jay |
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That is so true 06/06/2007 15:24
J van Niekerk, you have hit the nail on the head. it irks me so much because we all know what needs to be done for this strike to stop, but Fraser-Moleketi doesn't want to back down. I believe her boss should give her the 6.5 she is talking about, then lets see where she ends up. doesn't Trevor and Tito brief other ministers about economics, becuase if they do, Fraser-Moleketi would know what she is offering is worth a pack of toilet paper to wipe the sh!t she spews. - Daddy |
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fire her...and what then? 06/06/2007 15:28
after her, who else? Manto, Erwin, Zuma 1 or Zuma 2. Selebi? you name one we all can confide in. - Benzo |
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Fire her 06/06/2007 15:28
Government pays peanuts period. The very people who do the work, have lifestyles that are a far-cry from what the government topdogs live like. Its true, they'll pay them 6.5% and then tax it, petrol going up, inflationary effect on everything, so at the end of the day, it has no impact. Frasier pay people a decent living wage, i pay a hefty tax every month. Irony is that government top-dogs account for the biggest chunk of the salary bill. Why pay top dogs who do nothing but only attend meeting. - Jo |
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Democratic Rule 06/06/2007 15:29
I think someone should at least remind Moleketi that we are living in a democratic society wher everyone is having equal right to life. Her dogmatic approach in dealing with issues will never make situation better. Let them utilise the money, they save on vacancies (+- 20% vacancy rate) within Public sector to pay Public Servants what they rightfully deserve. How can they justify their efforts of retaining skills if they cannot provide attractive salaries, wake up Moleketi b4 you lose staff - Sizwe |
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G F-M - A crying shame 06/06/2007 15:30
I have to agree. Please remove Ms Fraser-Moleketi from office. I have been told by a teacher that she is currently offering School Principals a 50% increase. True or False - who knows. One way to resolve this issue is to cut the salaries of all provincial and goverment ministers and their immediate staff and give this to the teachers, nurses, police, emergency services. Go strikers! You have my support, but please no violence or intimidation. Thank you! - Grace |
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Moleketi 06/06/2007 15:33
I think the Gov should seriously think of coming up with a better offer-this strike is going to have have lots of negative consequences for all of us.-no matter how much they caution strikers to act responsibly the opportunists(criminals) will try and get away with stealing and harming innocent people,like was the case with the security strike last year- Geraldine's attitude is not helping either-I dont think she is well liked by the people-Pala - Pala |
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fix their salaries 06/06/2007 15:33
My opinion is that the salaries of the fat cats should be linked to the salaries that are paid to all our essential workers. Ms. Fraser-Moleketi may then only give herself the same % increase as everyone else gets. - southie |
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Moleketi 06/06/2007 15:37
Geraldine has such a bad attitude - she angers people when she speaks publicly-She's going to have to come up with a better offer as this strike will have negative consequences for all of us.-PJ - PJ |
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let them 06/06/2007 15:39
Let them have what they asking for, they deserve it anyway, shame they work hard and therefore need to be recognised, so they can upgrade the services they delivering. - Mina |
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3rd world with their labour unions 06/06/2007 15:40
first world countries destroyed the labour unions a long time ago. look at this, these people have the government by the nuts. just wait, come 2010 they will all down tools and say, "give us 50%" OR ELSE! - pyatte |
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Fire Fraser-Moleketi 06/06/2007 15:40
I wonder how Fraser sleeps at night,she is so self centred.I thought this government is for the people.She is actually not applying her mind to the matter,not realising how serious this is affecting our lives.She must be fired. - j |
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Why give in 06/06/2007 15:41
Everything is going up petrol rates and all these ministers can say is spend less and save more who do you save if you can't come out with the salary you earn does these ministers know how much does it cost these goverment workers to get through the month they live from hand to mouth The teachers are the people that is teaching the future leaders Dr's and many others the police are protecting us the nurses look after the sick. So come on Geraldine take a cut in your increase and give it to them - Fools |
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The pot calling the kettle...... 06/06/2007 15:41
It appears that Geraldine was a bit slap and dishonest. And yes it is scandalous that the politicians can vote themselves such generous increases. But this is no justification for the hooliganism that now characterises the public servants' strike. How does trashing exam rooms and denying patients' hospital care serve their cause? How many of those on strike actually deliver sterling performance that justifies their demands? Resolution calls for common sense from both sides. - Grootbek |
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Personal attacks on the minister... 06/06/2007 15:42
In direct response to the letter of Mr van Niekerk....why is he not seeking a position in politics? Skills shortage? Short of courage? Lack of insight?.....Attacking the Minister on a personal level does not help! Please Mr van Niekerk, Mrs Frazier-Moleketi is the executive voice of the government. Maybe that is why he does not hold a top-job in politics....not knowing how government and commitees therein function.!? - christopher |
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Ms. Frazer Molokete 06/06/2007 15:43
In my opinion, she is highly intelegent, morally untouchable, a strong speaker. Most of all, she sticks to her guns, keeps her promises, like it or not, and I think she is the perfect candidate for the next President of South Africa.
Men hide behind her skirts in any case. She has to do all the negotiating and face the music.
I am extremely proud of her. Well done for doing a most difficult job. - Alicia Myburgh |
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Absolute disgrace 06/06/2007 15:46
My wife studied to become a teacher for four years and has been teaching now for fifteen years. Her gross salary is R7900,00. Geraldine needs to catch a wake up. If they align the minister's salary to international standards, what about our public servants, don't they deserve the same? - Andre |
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Pitiful Parliamentarians 06/06/2007 15:47
Its amazing how members of Parliament who command high salaries, have a fat lot to say when it comes to paying civil servants a decent salary. I'm sure most of the workers who are on strike are more educated than most of our Parliamentarians. The questions is does Geraldine "I can't get my facts right" Fraser-Moleti deserve her high salary or should she be washing toilets in hospitals as some of our more highly qualified people are forced to do. - Kas |
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Criminals 06/06/2007 15:58
I work for a reputable private sector company. I can promise you now, they will never give anyone 12% without any results!! Even the 6% cannot be given without results. Why should it be different for the public sector people.??? - jan |
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Icecreamman,Frank and Neville 06/06/2007 15:59
I bet none of you work for the public service and IcecreamMan don't be so cold, the government needs these workers and so do the masses, just because you have the priveledges of a private hopsital and private security doesnt mean that our public service providers dont work hard. The culture of bad service delivery needs to be rooted out ,tell me how it got there in the 1st place. The fat cats invest loads of cash in themselves instead of in their staff and facilities.Thats laughable! - Ricardo |
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