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Liberators are tyrants
17/08/2007 14:20
History has shown that a liberating leader, who has come to power by way of a populist uprising, almost always becomes a despot: Stalin, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro, you name them. Add to this the generally poor level of education in rural Africa, and it is small wonder that tyrants and despots can use propaganda, fear and terrorism to manipulate public opinion. The rural African people REALLY think Zims problems are only due to outside forces. Therefore, their leaders must also agree. - Jelo |
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Mugabe: A "hero" indeed
17/08/2007 14:32
Editor
I read with graet interest comments passed about the hero wellcome Mugabe received in Lusaka. I think the same happened way back in South Africa. What I seem to find more interesting is how people get to interpret these events. I think most comment on what we would want to see and leave what we see. I think Bob is genuinely these people's hero. What we therefore need to look closely at is that what makes them feel. Are they not new blood themselves. How do we make them see from our side. - Sifo Silu |
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He is a HERO !!
17/08/2007 14:33
Well done ?Robert? you are a hero. You have managed to remove the ?colonial imperialists?. Or is a hero a person who can lead their people to a ?better life?. Clearly the followers of Mr Mugabe want both.
Perhaps as time changed, so did priorities. Fifteen years ago Mugabe had the democracy and growth that he wanted and that Zimbabwe needed. But sadly the balance, in favor of his followers, has been lost.
Knowing what you want and knowing what is good for you are two different scenarios.
Lets hope the ANC government choose the path of being hero?s, and managing the country so we may all prosper. There are numerous good signs, but the balance is a fine one.
Perhaps South Africa would have its own hero if it could counter balance the poor decisions made by Mugabe. His poor decisions will impact the ?better life? that South Africans both need and deserve.
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Africa seen as a joke by the rest of the world
17/08/2007 14:44
When one sees African "leaders" giving a bloody despot/dictator a standing ovation, then it is no wonder that the world does not take this continent seriously.Africa has to start taking a hard line against it's dictators eventually if it's wants to be fully integrated into the world economy etc.(& not give them heroes welcomes at meetings instead).It looks like ordinary Zimbabweans will have to get rid of this monster themselves because nobody is going to help them.Sad. - lily-white |
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Get off your high horses
17/08/2007 14:44
It is very naive to think that Mugabe will not be accorded the same standing ovation the rest of the SADC members received in the meeting. The media intentionally played up the Zimbabwe issue as if Mugabe was the only one to receive the standing ovation. He was not and as become normal, if Mugabe had farted, the media would have reported that as thunderous applause too. - Len v Heerden |
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When in Rome
17/08/2007 14:45
Hero - Robin Hood was a hero. He stole from the rich and gave to the poor. But Bob, dear ol' Bob has taken this to a whole new level. It's all about perspective. After all your perspective is your reality. So Bob thinks he's doing wonders. But I fear he's lost sight of the well being of his citizens. I think its a case of out of sight out of mind. He's not seeing or he chooses not to see the suffering. But his propaganda is strong among his people. His people believe the oppressors are still oppressing. But in actual fact the real oppressor is the one brain washing them all! As far as the warm welcome, you know what they say, Birds of a feather flock together. We as South Africans, and this isn't some opinion. We had better watch our backs. - MP3 |
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SADC brainless
17/08/2007 14:49
To give mugabe a hero's welcome just shows what a bunch of idiots SADC is! - SAD |
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In the dark!!!
17/08/2007 14:50
My colleague and I had the very same discussion this morning only to conclude that there is something very sinister going on with regards to Zimbabwe. He remarked Africa is going to be a very scary place to live in. There is something that the rest of Africa knows that we dont... - Navs |
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Look around..
17/08/2007 14:56
You obviously don?t understand the principles behind ?ubuntu? No matter what Mugabe does, at the end of the day he is still a ?brother? For example: Why do you think we live in a country that thrives on corruption? One brother is not going to tell on the next? etc. etc. etc. - Ryan |
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Mad Bob at SADC
17/08/2007 14:57
The only purpose these SADC summit meetings serve is as a platform for evil propaganda, ranting and raving by mad Bob. South Africa witnessed this scenario a short time back at a summit meeting in Sandton. The audience response was the same - standing ovation accompanied by rapturous applause. Makes you think, doesn't it?
But you all go and have another nice day now. - Anthony Ive |
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Meaning of the word
17/08/2007 15:00
HERO: The primary meaning of hero is someone respected for their courage or the noble values they uphold. NOBLE: Possessing eminence, elevation, dignity, etc.; above whatever is low, mean, degrading, or dishonorable and magnanimous. Synonyms for noble: Dignified; gracious; righteous and good. Sorry, but I haven?t notice any of these characteristics in a leader lately! Anyone glorifying a murdering racist, will most likely end up in the same ?hot spot? as his/her so called ?hero?. - WSAW |
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A "hero" indeed...
17/08/2007 15:01
No tears should be shed, and no heads turned. This sad excuse for a so-call 'president' should be locked up and taken away. I cannot believe that the leaders of this continent have stood by and watched this man disintegrate his country so methodically, and break down the very fibre of civilization with his drunken power. He's been in power for ages, and I honestly believe this has seriously affected his brain. Really, take him out and put someone competent in there to deal with things. - Stephen |
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Same old, same old.
17/08/2007 15:03
I was issued with a new SA ID Document in 2004. It says country of birth: Rhodesia. I've been in sunny SA since I was 6 weeks old. I've built a business and it is going well. Thankfully I was born in Rhodesia and not Zimbabwe. I am a very proud South African and by extension a loyal African. I have no reason to be proud of my country of birth, I hang my head in shame. Hopefully in years to come I will not feel the same about South Africa. As MP3 says - watch our backs. - Dean Swift |
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Zimbabwe
17/08/2007 15:05
The worst thing that has happened this week is the media hype surrounding Mugabe.He has consistently harped on about the sovereignity of his country.And the very same Zimbwabeans keep him in power,with the exception of the few urban ones.Few people in Zim would rather vote Mugabe rather than the opposition as it lacks quality,cohesion and have no policy except to oppose Mugabe.Which makes it too thin to appeal to Zimbabweans.They will bring change if they want it.Its not up to Mbeki or SADC - Jabulani |
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Emperor's new clothes
17/08/2007 15:07
I think the cheering for Mugabe is really a case of the Emperor's new clothes. I think the SADC leaders are enjoying Mugabe make a fool of himself and it's all become rather farcical. I don't think most SADC leaders have deep-seated desires to drive their countries into ruin but their response belies an all too often African tragedy: the lack of self-belief that their respective country's problems can be overcome so it becomes a self-enrichment exercise from post-colonial stage to economic ruin. - Longbow |
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Hero?
17/08/2007 15:09
ahem, yes, hero.
Why not, Hitler, stalin were visionaries...
I wouldnt give that 'Hero' toilet paper. but then again...
- $Prompt$ |
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or just maybe...
17/08/2007 15:13
we and the rest of the world are being brainwashed on the situation in Zim. The question is why has Zimbabwe not collapsed yet? Or who or what is holding Zim together or why has no one intervened in the Zim crisis? Is there a Zim crisis after all? - ??? |
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heroes welcome.
17/08/2007 15:14
if this "heroes welcome" is a true report then this continent is indeed in serious trouble. this is also not the 1st time. African leaders hang your heads in shame...you are scared of him and will never succeed unless you build stronger ties with the West. the perception you create when you applaud this man publicly sends a very concerning message to the rest of the world.
dont expect free and fair trade if you wont publicly condem him and the misery he has created for so many of his own. - Barry |
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Double Standards
17/08/2007 15:14
The only plausible reason for the 'heroes' welcome, is that SADC supports Mugabes efforts against colonialism(?). Ergo, they support his efforts against white people. Moreover, they celebrate it. If this isnt the most blatant racism ever, I dont know. So why can a white man not criticise a black man, or even be openly 'racist' against him? How long is the world going to fooled by these poor, oppressed black people? - ramone |
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Mugabe a failure
17/08/2007 15:14
Mugabe is only trying to die with Zimbabwe not to build it. If you look all his policies are there to add more destruction to Zim eg Murambatsvina, reduce price, farm grabbing etc they are all poor strategies only to kill his country. I would agree in calling him a hero of destruction.
The welcome he was given in Zambia that shows us that other African leaders fear him and they can't contribute in helping Zim. - Brian |
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Ashamed
17/08/2007 15:14
Now I am ashamed to be an African - The O' JAYS |
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South African Despot Clique
17/08/2007 15:15
Maybe they were just clapping to thank Mr Mugabe for showing them such a great example of how not to run a country,maybe after watching their once wealthy and prosperous neighbour with the best educated population in the hood go down the drain like toilet water at such a speed has inspired the despots to clap with bravo that they have been given such an important lesson in good governance.Then I woke up.... - me |
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Hero, Leader???
17/08/2007 15:21
It is a conern that he is seen as a hero and great leader, what does that say for the rest of the African counties if they see this man as a hero. Apartheid is a gross violation of human rights, but is the neglect of your contry and people not a greater violation. The question should be asked why the SA government is keeping mum, is this our future? - Craig |
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What is Lobbying?
17/08/2007 15:21
Obviously, Ryan sees corruption as an African disease. oddly, in the USA it has become a profession with people whose only job is to dangle carrots to law makers. Oh, well, since they are not Africans we call it Lobbying.
We also know that South Africa lost the chance to host the 2006 World Cup because Germans knew how to bribe. Why is it that some whites believe they are immune to corruption and bribery when it is part of their culture? - Len v Heerden |
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Re: Get off your high horses
17/08/2007 15:27
Well said Len! An ex-colleague of mine happens to be at the same conference and he told me the same thing in a telephone conversation, all the leaders received warm applause, NOTE: Not-just-Robert-Mugabe. It had nothing to do with giving him a hero's welcome, but merely acknowledging him as the president of the country. Get over yourselves. - VLS |
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Mugabe's thunderous applause
17/08/2007 15:33
"Lvh",the fact is that Bob received an ovation with far more decibels than his colleagues got (even Pres.Mbeki never came close),it was not the media who intentionally "played it up" (unless they upped the audio on tv on purpose).Next you will say that it was the British "Imperial" media who rigged it,just as they have got the blame for ruining Zim's economy & starving its people through daft NAZI- style policies.Catch a wake - up please. - lily-white |
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SADC Will survive
17/08/2007 15:44
I think the condemnation sigled at Pres Mugabe is utter disrespect of our leaders regardless of the current situation in Zimbabwe. Mugabe is a president like his SADC peers, the standing ovation is an African honor and Mugabe is no exeption. Media must stop playing devil's advocate, stop pushing your agenda on expence of Mugabe and all his so called dectractors, Mugabe did what was innitial agreed with the master coloniser [England] in 1980 to bring back ancestoral land that belong to Ma-Afrika. - Mogala |
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Uncle Bob
17/08/2007 15:45
I am afraid i will have to agree with Len. Everybody who entered that meeting was given a standing ovation. Agreed Mugabe is running Zimbabwe into poverty, but we must not always let our hatred cloud our judgement. The media will always manipulate the situation to suit its cause and enforce its opinions on people. For instance you mention ANC/Gorvement people start ranting about crime and corruption without understanding the facts expressed. - Funnybones |
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Hello?
17/08/2007 15:48
Len you should pay attention in the class boy; I used the South African situation as an example? - Ryan |
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mugabe
17/08/2007 15:51
Does this man have no shame, and does the rest of the african leaders walk around blind. Zimbabwe is dying a slow death and he walks as if he has done his country a favour by running it into the dust. African leaders wake up - Cotty |
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Sovereign Zimbabwe
17/08/2007 16:06
Jabulani - DITTO, I fully agree with you. Zimbabwe indeed is a sovereign country with a democratic elected Government regardless whether we think it was free and fair. We might not agree with what and how Mugabe is ruling Zim or the direct effect is has on S.A. It is however for the Zimbabweans to decide. To all the screamers and moaners, rather concern yourself with what is going on in South Africa and make a difference here. - DannySpears |
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A Hero with no Future
17/08/2007 16:11
Indeed he is a hero to some with deminishing ideas ,but to the people of Zimbabwe where it matters the most ..he is no hero..when the very people he serves have been reduced to beggers and with the future looking very bleak. So whats the hype about him when he getting fatter and the people are starving.Please explain? - nkosana |
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Wake up!!!
17/08/2007 16:18
If you cut down to the bone it is not about media hype or brainwashing or even conspiracy theories. It is the fact that we have become apathetic. Stop flapping your gums and debating in circles and stand up for yourselves. It takes one person to start the change. - Blinkers |
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