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This is why
11/04/2008 10:18
Max du Preez is a communist puppet. David Bullard writes the truth without having to whimper like du Preez and ask for permission from his masters.
Bullard is only writing the truth! What has Africa done in thousands of years? ANSWER THAT QUESTION! - xp |
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Not only racist, but arrogant too!
11/04/2008 10:18
I live in a rural village and my wife and I were talking around the woodfire the other day about the insensitivity this Bullard guy usually shows towards poor black people in his writing. I am surprised that Sunday Times took this long to fire him. Not only was David Bullard outright racist, he was downright rude too. - Sello |
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Bullard
11/04/2008 10:19
What about Jon Q. ? - mullpitta |
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11/04/2008 10:20
I dont have any problem with someone being fired for wrong doing, but why did the editor allow the column to be printed, (in a way approving it) before he fired David Bullard? - Justine |
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too close to the truth...
11/04/2008 10:22
Bullard didn't go to far--he got too close to the truth, namely that Africa has never produced anything for itself, expects the world to dish out--and blames the world in return. To call the truth "racist" is to deflect attention from Bullard's precise analysis. But then, that's how it goes in a sick, totlitarian racist society. Well done, Bullard, you were spot on! - Gysbert |
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Thought
11/04/2008 10:22
I dont know the whole story around this oke, so I will not comment. But the little I read, he did bring up a very intressting question, where would South Africa, or even Africa be today, if the white man never set foot here. It is a great question for debate, what are your thoughts. - padkos |
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Free Speech
11/04/2008 10:23
This is not gonna change the way he sees and thinks about things just because he hit a nerve! - Martin |
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'boundaries of writing'?
11/04/2008 10:23
what next, censorship for everything that dares to provoke any kind of non-mainstream thought? David's column was spot on - but the truth hurts, doesn't it? - Naks |
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David Bullard
11/04/2008 10:23
Aaron, my thoughts exactly. Why would the Sunday Times publish that column and then turn round and fire David Bullard? Surely they should have simply not published it?
I think the column was a bit cloudy, but Bullard does point out the next wave of colonization - although, his idyllic utopia seems steeped in a Jaime Uys/The Gods must be Crazy mentality. - Ryan Matthews |
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What is you thoughts...
11/04/2008 10:26
on John Qwelane then? Would you apply the same criteria for sacking him as well? - Johann Eksteen |
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Jon Qwelane
11/04/2008 10:26
If we were to apply this equitably,then why does someone like JQ still find himself gainfully employed after some of the racist trash he spouts from time to time? Or does this rule only apply to white journo's (and coconuts),and not to card carrying members of the "F.B.J."? Double standards once again methinks. - The Truth |
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Bullard hates stupid people, not black people
11/04/2008 10:26
I don't understand why you even bother mentioning opposition parties Aaaron, they are not in power, they are not the people running this country into the ground, they are not the one's passing policy to pass the time. The ANC is in power, therefore they, and only they, are to blame. If the DA were in power, it would be their F-UP, but they're not. - ian |
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i have a better idea
11/04/2008 10:26
Bullard doesn't have any right to judge like that.
Why don't you retell the story as you think it would've happend? I would like to know how our black countrymen think Africa would've turned out without any western influence. - anon |
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Bullard
11/04/2008 10:26
I used to read his article,they are racist, vague, cumbersome, full of generalizing and distorted. He relished scorning and patronizing black people in particular. He must learn a thing or two from the honourable Jon Qwelane about journalist ethics and boundaries. This is good riddance, the next one should be 'coconut' Justice Malala. - Calvin Mkhize |
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Censorship and Political agenda's here we go
11/04/2008 10:27
While I agree that newspapers and media the like is not be the place for individuals to further their own private goals. I think that David got a rough deal, as his brief has always been to be controversial and to 'go for the jugular'. After 14 yrs of great writing, to be phoned by your editor and fired like that is a poor showing by the powers that be. One must remember that his article like all other collumnists gets checked by editors a few days before going to print. Think about it! - Dayne |
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RUBBISH
11/04/2008 10:28
Racism is a curse, but so is witch-hunting. I read Bullard's article and it was just a bit irreverent, that's all. If people can't take a bit of gentle mockery then they shouldn't read provocative articles. I have heard people of all races in SA laugh at others, with no real malice in it. So, why the massive overreaction to a silly little article? And citing that old bore Max du Preez is useless - the only "deep understanding" he has is inside a bottle of Klippies. - Jack |
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Unlucky, we'll miss you
11/04/2008 10:30
Some good points but damn I'm going to miss his writing! - Sean |
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truth hurts
11/04/2008 10:31
the bottom line of Bullard's collumn was that Africa did indeed benefit from colonialism. just look around you. can you honestly claim that our cities, roads, infrastructure, even the pc and language you used would be here if it wasn't for europeans?!? - mm |
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Racism??
11/04/2008 10:31
An extrapolation of the development of africa without the imput of European settlers is not a racist remark. It is a fact that africa was still in the iron age prior to the advent of the europeans, it is not racist comment. If an educated guess on the state of africa if it had not been colonised is offensive to some, one has to wonder why. Development of technology on the different continents is fair game for anyone to speculate on. - E |
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What???
11/04/2008 10:32
He's racist column is no more racist than many other columns I've read on this site... But because we have different rules in this country for people of different races this happens. I'm not supporting what he said, all I'm asking is WTF? Old Jon has said far worse things and he is still getting paid. - Me |
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did he perhaps hit a nerve
11/04/2008 10:33
the truth hurts doesnt it. how is what he said racist.are people who dont approve of the column saying that africans would have developed the wheel, cell phones, cars, roads and infrastructure in general if whites had never set foot on africa? yea probably. - no-name |
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Who will provide us our weekly bread?
11/04/2008 10:34
I find it very sad that one of our best columnists had to be axed. Tongue in cheek, pure wit, no shortage of sarcasm but much truth, is what I loved about his section in the Sunday Times. Yes, he may have often chose to harp on the negative aspect of our rainbow nation, but he is a writer and sadly, that is what sells. I will miss your articles. PS: If David Bullard is a racist, then what is Jon Quelani? - SonOfTheSoil |
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Long live Freedom of Speech ....
11/04/2008 10:34
Read your constitution. Freedom of expression except when it comes to criticising the ANC. Also was this not read before it was published, the damage has been done so maybe David Bullard can profess his innocence and claim he has been "misquoted", "taken out of context" or his being fired "smacks of racism" African democracy is not to be enjoyed - Gary |
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David Bullard
11/04/2008 10:34
My thoughts exactly Justine. Did nobody read this article before it was published? Whoever approved this article should be fired as well! - Nicola |
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to xp
11/04/2008 10:35
Question: "What has Africa done in thousands of years?"
Answer: "Our ability was not limited to farming and medicine, but also to mining iron ore and turning it into farming implements. We turned clay into pots and dishes, we mined gold and created beautiful pieces of art (check Mapungubwe)"
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Stupid editor
11/04/2008 10:35
The editor is to blame on this one. He admitted that he only spoke to David on TUESDAY when the column went to press on SUNDAY. And I know for a fact that articles are sent to the editor quite some time before going to print. Why did the editor let it through if he found it so racist and vile??? David is not to blame. Boo to you Sunday Times. - Anon |
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R.I.P - BULLARD
11/04/2008 10:35
What a shame that my sunday morning read will be spoilt by his dismissal. I thought that a major newspaper like Sunday Times will have proof readers to make management aware of vile articles like this. The Editor should at least be sanctioned or dismissed.
Ps. This is a tipical topic of conversation by your average, cigar smoking, whisky sipping, colonial settler. They enjoy the fruits of Africa but belittle the motherland without regard.
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Irony
11/04/2008 10:36
As a person of colour that has worked hard to achieve what I have I feel I have an obligation to respond. Whether we like it or not we are all part of the South African community, but I do understand David's point of view- maybe the irony was lost on some of the readers. I have white friends who complain that NO MATTER what they do to better our country they are shunned. I personaly think this was a tongue in the cheek response to say we actually need each other to make South Africa great. - Specialist |
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Gysbert
11/04/2008 10:36
The entire western civilization is based on African civilization. Europeans are copy cats who managed to adapt what the Romans brought to their back waters. Do not perceive truth to be your own ignorance because you then sound really stupid - LvH |
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Bravo
11/04/2008 10:36
There is a thin line between satire and vindictive writing. I have no objection to pointed social commentary where it is simply fair comment. Columns critical about the government (where it has made faults) are justified. Bullard, in writing a loaded piece on a specific race, crossed the line of 'fair comment.' His was a racist rant, no question. I hope that those who will undoubtedly defend Bullard also defend the likes of Jon Qwelane (who has not even attacked other races in this manner). - VLS |
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Bullard
11/04/2008 10:38
I stopped buying the sunday times because of him. Looks like I might start budgetting R10 for the sunday times again. - Len Anderson |
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Agreed
11/04/2008 10:38
Havent read the article, but completely agree. "Freedom of speech" doesnt mean "disregard all tact" or "attack without fear of retribution". Journalists must still be accountable for what they say, and how they say it. - G |
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David Bullard = Sunday Times
11/04/2008 10:38
David stood for everything that Sunday Times is, it's a pity he's being was used as a scape goat all of a sudden. - Son of man |
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Gud For BULLDOG
11/04/2008 10:39
I jumped with joy the moment i read only the headlines about his sacking.He should also pack his bags and leave africa for Africans who will be proud to be Africans and not things who pride themselves with Europe and they still eat and make theie offspring in this lovely Africa.Even in my next life,i will ask God to remain An African. - Majozi |
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Here we go again
11/04/2008 10:40
Children of apartheid masters postulating on rights and wrongs of the world. How weird when their very existence is based on an evil wrong they unquestioningly accepted and in doing so enriched themselves. All forms of racism should be discouraged, irrespective of the intended victims. - FrequentFlighter |
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@ Sello
11/04/2008 10:41
Don't lie mate, we all know its a flatscreen TV and not a woodfire ;) Yeah but he was funny, geddit? He must have finally pissed off someone important because that's the only reason they would fire him AFTER its been published. Duh! - May |
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Fired for calling a spade a 'spade'
11/04/2008 10:41
The Sunday Times just lost themselves an independant-thinking columnist.
I, for one, will stop buying the sunday times,
as this amounts to censorship.
Do yourself a favour and read his article:
http://www.thetimes.co.za/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=741855
Columnists should be allowed to express theire views, otherwise, that's the POINT?
There's a massive difference between racism, and telling things like it is! - Juan |
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Its loooong overdue!
11/04/2008 10:41
I am surprised that Sunday Times took so long to see how RACIST is David Bullard. One has to ask what method did they used to see that "now on this particular article" he crossed boundaries. This Bullard guy had crossed boundaries long time ago. Racist and arrogant! Why doesn't he just go back to UK? - Z |
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what a let down ...
11/04/2008 10:41
i have always enjoyed reading Mr Bullard's columns and i will surely miss his sharp wit and humour on sundays, but in he past few months i was offended by a lot of his comments in his columns,i often wondered if maybe the shooting incident didn't leave him with a sudden dislike of black people and the ANC,it seemed like Mr Bullard could not write about anything else except for his contempt for the incompetent blacks running the country, - Mmamosidi |
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David Bullard?s Arse ..
11/04/2008 10:42
He must just get off the African continent, his kind are not welcome here,he continues to criticize Africans without facts and his articles are outrageously rascist, You cannot come to Africa and insult Africans. That was totally out of order, how long have we been complaining to this coconut Mondli Makhanya that David is preaching offensive and rascist diarrhea. Way to go... - Kolobe |
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Proud African
11/04/2008 10:42
Just pack your bags and leave and you will see where SA will be after you left.You are retarding our African progress... - Majozi |
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It is about time...
11/04/2008 10:43
It is about time someone stood up and painted the picture of what has happened and is happening, David Bullard is the only jerno in this country to stand up and say what is what... no playing it PC, ther truth my friends is the only way this country is going to become whole again. Accountability and Truth, something most of this nation is lacking! - Hobbs |
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Who was he offending
11/04/2008 10:44
Who was David Bullard offending? The chinese? The europeans or the blacks?
All I know is that the sunday times isn't seeing any of my money if this is the sort limp-wristed, over-sensitive, chip-on-the-shoulder type they are employing as editors. How Mondi Makhanya get the job anyway? Surely you need to be educated to be the editor of a newspaper? Oh hang on, that can't be true... isn't Chris Roper also an editor?
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Sello..
11/04/2008 10:45
If the article was so offensive or wrong why did it get published? The Editor in chief is usually the one that should get the chop with the offender. Weird world hey Jon Q? I hope your editor in chief is not the same person otherwise you might find yourself and David at the UIF offices queues. - Chazz |
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So true
11/04/2008 10:45
Maybe a bit insensitive, but it is so truth! If it wasn?t for the European influence in Africa, a simple thing as the wheel would not have been discovered in Africa. - Hannes |
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Teach him
11/04/2008 10:45
Why fire him, you might as well fire the editor. He allowed the column to be printed. He should have be taught about the African people way of living before the "clever People" arrived and made to write a piece about that and apologised. For his information Europens have committed the worst ethnic cleansing and murders in the history of mankind. Anyway everything in life goes in cycles.The wiil be a time when Africa will realised its full potential.Once the Struggle leaders disappear an new breed - Tebzano |
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The Times to be controlled
11/04/2008 10:46
It's amazing that this happens at a time when an ANC controlled consortium is trying to buy AVUSA the holding company of the Sunday Times. Bullard's colum was submitted three days before print why object after the fact when it is an editors job to edit and reject or approve. Stinks, and as for John Qwelane the man should be brought to book but yes card carrying members of the FBJ dont have to play by the rules obviously. - Sean |
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David Bullard's article
11/04/2008 10:47
The truth hurts doesn?t it? :) - CJ |
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DB
11/04/2008 10:47
You might not like what he writes but he does it well. Same for JQ but his style is a lot less interesting. Both insult readers of a certain group (not necessarily population group) at will. They have been given the platform and using it. Don't like it, don't read it. Firing the man? He probably does not care a stuff, certainly wont show it. Hope we know soon where he is going to so we can hear what he has to say for himself. Could be fun to read. - Benzo |
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David Bullard
11/04/2008 10:47
I really enjoyed the last column he wrote. Brilliantly accurate! Its a shame that he got sacked for it. - Nyx |
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Double Standards
11/04/2008 10:48
Firstly, we should be able to write what we want as long as it is either the truth or someone's opinion. The newspaper decided to publish the article..to which the newspaper should be responsible..not the writer. Secondly, why are the white writers questioned, when people of colour write similar, if not out right racist comments, to which there are no consequences? They are allowed to have a Black writers forum and that is OK? Double Standards..no wonder this country is in the state it is in.. - Me |
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Aaron, my buddy
11/04/2008 10:49
I have just re-read your words and I must say that you qualify perfectly to be editor of the Sunday Times. You are perfectly wishy-washy and I wouldn't be surprised to find that your clothes are perfectly ironed and that the only time you smile is once every three days when you have completed a successful BM. - niels |
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On firing columnists
11/04/2008 10:50
Perhaps someone (I don't have the time) should research a column written in the Botswana Sunday Standard on 21 October 2006 by a columnist called 'Loose Canon'. It actually openly incites black on white racial violence. When challenged, the column was defended as being satirical, and the columnist writes today, still. It would appear some Africans are more equal than others on this African farm (to borrow from Orwell). Mr Bullard went too far: the Emperor IS wearing clothes. And THAT is final. - Jan |
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Come on News 24 - Hire Bullard!
11/04/2008 10:51
Let's make things really interesting around here! - Yam |
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Bullard simply told the truth
11/04/2008 10:53
Bullard wasn't being racist - he simply told the truth. What brought industrial might to this country? Western civilization. Our good road system? Western civilization? Our clean water supplies? The same. Our electricity - the same, until of course Eskom failed to plan and do the correct maintenance. So why is Bullard fired simply for telling the truth? I guess it's that the truth hurts. - Doug |
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Overstepped
11/04/2008 10:53
It's fine to criticise the shortcomings in the country - but unfortunately he played the same race card as many an ANC member ...... He should know better, even with the mounting frustrations. - Jo |
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Generalization
11/04/2008 10:54
There was no big deal about the article but the problem is generalization, one should at least learn and understand the the culture of black people and their way of life before writing anything for that matter. - Stha |
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@Johann Eksteen
11/04/2008 10:54
I agree with you about Jon Q as well. We can't keep on accepting this racism from our columnists under the name of "freedom of expression". I said it before on these comments, John Qwelane = David Bullard. John is worse because he insults everybody, black & white, while David Bullard insults blacks at every turn. I will lose nothing if I don't hear either of them. - Z |
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Censorship at its best
11/04/2008 10:55
Agree or disagree but this is without a doubt censorship. The Sunday Times should be ashamed just as the Rapport should be for Deon Maas.
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bye bye bullard
11/04/2008 10:55
what bullard, and all the commenters who either agree with him or make comaparisons to qwelane, fail to realize is that the world is one.. its not about who did what and who didnt, and if racism didnt exist there wouldnt be such talk in the first place. SA's progress has been achieved by all races working together (by choice or not), not by competition between whites and blacks. - aa |
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RIP Free Speech
11/04/2008 10:55
1994 - 2008 - Sinudeity |
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Hi writes a column
11/04/2008 10:56
which is his personal opinion. Secondly, he provokes though. I don't know which article got him fired but if it posed the question of where Africa would have been without western influence, then I would call that thought provoking. But he didn't go as far as say JQ,who still gets his stuff published even though we all have realized by now he is a racist (on medication?) who chops and changes his viewpoint every day. I also think that gov "bashing" as you call informs me about the ANC doings - M |
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Another fact
11/04/2008 10:57
It's a fact that European civilization succeeded through exploiting, oppressing and enslaving other race groups. And also stealing from native colonies. With their ill begotten gains, they developed an economy and an infrastructure. Is that really success? Cos it ain't to me. We can also apply the same yard stick to drug dealers and gangsters. Going with your assessment techniques, they're very successful. - PoorLiberated |
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I enjoyed his wit but the point of his column was missed in the racism rush
11/04/2008 10:58
The point of Bulard's column was that Africa needs to stop finding someone, or something to blame and get on with its life - much like Steve Biko would have said "Black man, you are on your own". THAT was his point, not contributions to the world like some users here are ranting about. How he made his point was terrible and he deserves censure. But if Christine Qunta and Jon Q can keep being published, Bullard should keep his job... - Zoo Keeper |
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To: Aaaron Bhoboza Mashinini
11/04/2008 10:59
Just read Jan-Jan Jouberts amazing columns on politics in South Africa. He has no holy cows. He is political editor for Die Burger. - There are good columns about opposition parties |
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Europeans?????????
11/04/2008 10:59
I have always said it, that it?s a pity that the Europeans never allowed Africa to develop on its own and at its own pace. Everyone will remember that the Pyramids were built in Africa before Christ was born. This then proves that there is a lot that Africa could have done if the Europeans had not forced their ways on the African people. As for David, well the less said about him the better. I'm also surprised that this article was published to start with. What is the role of a newspaper editor? - Mfowethu |
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David Bullard
11/04/2008 10:59
If one visits Grahams Town, the impression that linges is that the English without any roads, bridges ect erected a church within three to four years.It is as if David Bullard in his recent article, only held a mirror to the African people. This picture is how the West sees Africa, rightly or wrongly. Bullard's views should be regarded as a wake up call. Why do Africans do not want to change?
Is it simply easier to smash the mirror than to confront one's own problems? - Hans |
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I agree with David Bullard
11/04/2008 10:59
I read David Bullard's atricle and feel that it was more abit of tongue in cheek humour. I have had this discussion before with friend's on where Africa would be if it wasn't for the Europeans. And I think it would still be very backward. His thoughts were spot on. - Alias |
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BULLARD FOR PRESIDENT!
11/04/2008 10:59
Bullard was the only reason I read the Sunday Times. Like so many have commented - why, if the piece was so offensive - was it published in the first place? David just tell us where you will write next, and I will buy it! - Jannie |
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Clay pots !!!?
11/04/2008 11:00
Clay pots!!? WOW!! Very advanced!! It rates right up there with electricity and space travel!!! - Juan |
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Naks, Xp, Martin
11/04/2008 11:00
Go to Australia. You'll be more at home there. You can even pretend you are non-African and still fit in there. I read David's column but stopped before I could finish out of disgust. I was disgusted because I'm an African. Same as you. Deny it all you want. - Anti-racist |
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He should've been fired
11/04/2008 11:00
I read some of Bullard's article in question and even though I've always been a fan I do think he went a bit far. I am a whitey by the way. At the same time I agree that JQ gets away with murder but as far as I know he writes for a different employer so the comparison between the two is futile. Bullard was fired by his boss, not a government agency, JQ's boss obviously appreciates the controversy he attracts.
Anyway, my point being that Bullard's article was rascist and insulting. - Mitch |
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Truth in his comments
11/04/2008 11:00
I must say that his comments weren't extremely rascist. They merely point out a couple of points, all fair. If Europeans did not colonise Africa, technology would not be much advanced (you can argue all you want but this is the truth). South Africa is the most developed country in Africa (technology, infastrucure etc) simply because there are/were so many "Europeans" here. Black Africans seem to blame all their troubes on colonisation, wake up take responsibility for yourselves and your leaders. - BJ |
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He will be missed
11/04/2008 11:00
I know what the problem is: David should have shown his disapproval for what happens in this country daily, by practicing QUIET DIPLOMACY. We all know that is the best way to obtain a positive result. Sadly Calvin and co, the truth always hurts. We need more Davids and less ignorant sheep. - ian |
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Gottabekidding!
11/04/2008 11:01
I actually enjoyed the article and it's a shame that people took it up in the way they did. For me it was more a jab at BOB next door and the reluctance of our own goverment to take action. Surely if goverment or business are not functioning as they should, the media should have the ability to ask questions. Stuff censorship !!!! - streaker |
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"Bullard a Racist"
11/04/2008 11:02
WHAT THE HELL?! What about JQ? Calvin, Z, LVH, you are all double-standard HYPOCRITES! Racists who are calling for the death of FREE SPEECH!!! BOO!!! - Sinudeity |
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The truth and Africa
11/04/2008 11:02
In honesty, Africa has not done anything for herself and we must not be defensive about this. Our continent is rich but damaged by corruption and wars. We do have intelligent and skilled black Africans, but our leaders are so corrupt there's no opportunity for those people to produce wonders for this continent. We have ignored creativity and skill in favour of politics and wars. Tell Africans about entrepreneurship, no one is interested, but politics, every Tom, Dick and Harry is there. - Sello |
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LvH um you point is?
11/04/2008 11:02
You are confusing Egypt, Carthage etc. with Sub Saharan Africa. There is a big difference as the Romans had exposure to the first but not to the latter. This was due to that small thing called the Saharan dessert. So please do not prove your own point with regards to ignorance with your own comments on history. - Doorboot |
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niels Yet Again
11/04/2008 11:03
The people here who are standing out saying; "What about JQ?" are missing the point of why we should be angry The truth that you are all missing is that the Editor of the Sunday Times, the most widely read newspaper in South Africa, is not fit for the job. This is the guy who feeds you your sunday nutrition. He is the guy who controls what YOU think and he is obviously an idiot. That is why we should be angry at.
Folks, if we want to move forward, we have to let go of He Said, She Said. - niels |
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Shame
11/04/2008 11:03
I think Bullard struck a nerve.
However, Dennis Becket wrote in an editorial for Sax Appeal that a good satirist should turn his attention to his own kind more frequently than poking fun of others. - biobot |
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Editor of the times
11/04/2008 11:04
I just looked it up and saw that the editor of the Sunday Times is a Black man himself. I would like to know what he thinks of this whole story. - Andre |
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To LvH
11/04/2008 11:06
You are just too stupid for words. You should thank Europeans for everything they brought to Africa. What contributions have Africans made to the world (investions, technology etc)? Where do you think the computer in front of you came from? By the way, you should also stop using the English language ;) - dhv |
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The truth and Africa 2
11/04/2008 11:06
We black people must admit that we have not done wonders for our own continent, even after most of our states got independence they never used it wisely. It is time we stopped political wars and started arming ourselves with skill and creativity in order to rescue our land. Blaming whites and apartheid will not help us, we are also to blame that apartheid took place, because we did not defend our land from the beginning. Our forefathers were soft and passive. - Sello |
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RE: LvH
11/04/2008 11:06
Haha! Romans are Africans now?Maybe not. btw, the romans based their civilization on the greeks who were also not africans. Who's sounding stupid now? And if you are going to bring in Egypt, that has nothing to do with Africa south of the Sahara. - E |
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What!
11/04/2008 11:06
"We turned clay into pots and dishes" BOET We sent man into SPACE!! Beat That!!! - King |
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BULLARD'S THE MAN.
11/04/2008 11:06
Look, anybody who's read David's column over the years will know that he is no racist, but a severe critic of incompetence and the blame shift nature of our society.
Also, it's an editor's responsibility to monitor content. Wrong guy getting blamed here - and he shouldn't anyway. The article in question was as cynicle and sarcastic as usual, so what? - brandon |
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Interesting
11/04/2008 11:07
I'm sick & tired of racist comments like, "if it wasn't for whites Africa would be..."! Take SA for example,white people came,abused blacks, took their land,turned them into their slaves, classed blacks as second class citizens, broke black social structures, murdered bread winners, all for the sake of white supremecy, and NOW blacks have to be GREATFUL for that! How evil is that? and you claim to be christians? You go to india, Aborigines(in australia), it's the same story! I'm appalled! - BZ |
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subtle insinuations
11/04/2008 11:08
There certainly are some subtle underlying insinuations in Bullard's article that stink. Maybe it wasn't his intention, but I think he went too far this time round. And to those who say that "the truth hurts", get a life. We are all on the same side in this country. It really is pathetic to try and convince your neighbour that his fortunes have come about because your ancestors came here 350 years ago. - witseun |
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Racism
11/04/2008 11:08
The only racism I am seeing is that in these comments. Get over yourselves dudes - it's called satire. - ben |
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By the Way!!!
11/04/2008 11:09
Although we convince ourselves that we are a progressive society, we fail at being simple human beings and that is showing respect for ourselves and others. Just like most South Africans David failed at this as well, he had the platform to comment on whatever he wished but I think he took it too far. There was no poverty in Africa before white people came - Jusjazz |
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The truth hurts
11/04/2008 11:09
What David said is true. The Jacob Zuma clan had him fired because what he said touched a raw nerve. Look at Dubai and Angola or Nairobi. They both produce oil and can you see any improvement in Angola. See what Dubai has done in the last 20 years. No African country will do that in 120 years because the leaders are too busy stealing and enriching themselves. Always expecting the west to bale them out with handouts. Get off your backs and to some honest work. the ANC is corrupt from the top. - Mo |
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padkos!!!
11/04/2008 11:10
How much more backwards can some1 be?.Would the Europeans have been so successful in pillaging and destroying this planet without the use of the CHINESE invention of gunpowder?Would the so called brilliant academics have been so successful without the INDIAN introduction of the number 0 and ARAB introduction of mathematics?Have you looked at what the moors introduced to Europe?It would serve u well to do so,u may be pleasantly surprised and find that many inventions didnt come from Holland - nWo |
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Good riddance
11/04/2008 11:10
I used to enjoy his witty barbs directed at our politicians, he was always spot on and he provoked one to think. However, around about Dec last year, he changed from being a thought provoking columnist to being a resentful old fart. He did exactly what his predecessor Stephen Mulhollard was fired for, he could not keep his hatred for Black South Africans (read ANC) in check, so long Bullard, you got it comming. - Sgubu |
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David Bullard is the man!
11/04/2008 11:11
He wrote nothing but the truth, but of course he has been fired in the wonderfully backward South Africa where an idiot like JQ can write racist nonsense because he is black, but a top white journalist is fired for writing only the truth... - CH |
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Poor David
11/04/2008 11:11
Your column said it all exactly as it would have been.Best of luck buddy. - Jeff |
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Bullard article
11/04/2008 11:11
Think about this: the article was Okayed by his editors and published. Either because it was recognised as a "what if" satirical piece, or for sensation as it was obvious that it would elicit reaction. If his editors deemed it racist, they should not have published it! The general SA public lacks the maturity to identify and understand satire, and is overly sensitive about issues such as race. After the public outrage, Bullard was fired so that the Sunday Times can placate their enraged readers. - Anon |
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Blame them
11/04/2008 11:12
For me, the crux of the article was the following: "Suddenly the indigenous population realise what they have been missing all along: someone to blame. At last their prayers have been answered."
This conclusion just springs out with no logic behind it. It echoes what failed African despots like Mugabe always do - find a scapegoat, but hold on to power. I found the article offensive.
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Africa 2
11/04/2008 11:12
Points to ponder. The two ?free countries? established by the West for emancipated slaves are: Liberia and Sierra Leone, currently well established, thriving eco tourist spots. As of 2005 the sum total of Western aid to Africa has been estimated at + 4 Trillion US$, resulting in a well developed, continental, infrastructure. - Trinity |
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Good riddance
11/04/2008 11:13
I'm also suprised that it's only now that the Sunday Times realise that his articles are made to belittle black people.I have read his crude remarks in the past but last sunday's article was the worse.Just think, if a black columnist can write such articles about whites week after week,the HRC would have been called long time ago to investigate.Just wait and see white people defend him because it's not them being insulted.But there are still a lot like him out there. - Godfrey |
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Its something else..
11/04/2008 11:13
If anyone , the editor is the one that supposed to be fired ! I think there's other agendas behind all of this. Maybe the editor wanted to give one of his relatives Bullards' job..I agree with Bullard 100% tho.
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Bullard
11/04/2008 11:13
What a pity - my first read every Sunday morning!! Just shows you what happens if someone gets to close to the truth. Leave African on it's own without the interference from europeans or whites and it will become a desolate and barren piece of land overnight. Thanks for all the excellent articles David - Chris Pieters |
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@Majozi
11/04/2008 11:13
Didn't Mugabe say that at some stage? After everything had fallen apart? Scary how many new Mugabe's we have in SA waiting to bugger up another country. Hopefully you will never get past say being a janitor because at least there people like you can't do any damage. - M |
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Be realy careful
11/04/2008 11:14
i am dissapointed with comments from white people mostly on these site. what you are failing to see is that black people are a lot smater than they were years ago! we can see thrue all these nasty comments you post all the time, non of you have SA's best intrest at heart, you just want to keep benefiting in the expense of others. i wonder when are you all going to wake up from your haitred of anything that is black, and joine in building SA making it the best country to live in! i wonder????n - Be careful |
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Bullard
11/04/2008 11:16
Bullard is an excellent writer and by no means is he going to stick around, I am sure that he will be scooped up by another international newspaper and may I say (write)there goes another brain. Good luck Dave take your skills to where u are appreciated. This debacle says one thing that the editor did not do his job by reading the newspaper contents before it went to print for the public...so the editor should be fired. - ZK |
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The funny LvH
11/04/2008 11:17
First he writes..."The entire western civilization is based on African civilization." Hmm, a very curious "fact" indeed! And then he follows it by, "Do not perceive truth to be your own ignorance because you then sound really stupid"... And he probably doesn't even see the irony of what he wrote himself! Keep it up LvH, you do provide us with hearty giggles! - Jaco |
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Telling it like it is!
11/04/2008 11:17
In a totalitarian society telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Stewart Wood |
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Fire the editor !
11/04/2008 11:18
The owners of the Sunday Times should fire the editor - Mondli Makhanya. Does he not check his newpaper before it goes to print? The buck stops with him ! He should have pulled the column if he deemed it to be so, in his own words, "extremely, extremely, extremely offensive". He's my nomination for Mampara of the Week. - Tonto |
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David
11/04/2008 11:19
Be fair, David's article was racist! - Ngakara |
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Typical Responses
11/04/2008 11:21
Interesting! Many who live in Africa and claim to be Afrcans as they and their forefathers were born he are now asking - What has Africa done? Well the question is what have you done to make Africa better? - nhlanhlam |
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LvH
11/04/2008 11:22
Please be honest. What have African people contributed to the world regarding technology, inventions, disease research, space travel, infrastructure, literacy, economies etc? Did Europeans copy the English language from Africa? - snow white |
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LvH - die Nuwe Waarheid!
11/04/2008 11:23
A tiiiiiiny bit of research would do you well, LvH.
There's a slight distinction between Africa being the putative 'Cradle of Mankind' and 'Europe copying African Civilization'. Just a little one.
Oh, while I'm about it, the Romans sorta fall under the mantle of Europe (before it was known as such).
And WHAT did you mean by "Don't perceive truth to be your own ignorance"? I am confused ... sigh. - Cyni |
