| |
|
|
| |
On Purpose 15/04/2008 08:42
Of course it is done on purpose to keep this site alive. You think a recipe would have done it?? And you fell for it time and again. Happy reading...! - Martin |
|
 |
| |
JQ 15/04/2008 08:48
The man is outspoken about his preferences and supports all that is black in the process venting his anger about the past with no visible view for the future. Consider it an interesting sociological phenomenon or ignore it. - Benzo |
|
 |
| |
Fully Agree! 15/04/2008 08:48
Compared to other more fair and objective articles. - Matrix |
|
 |
| |
Jon Qwelane 15/04/2008 08:49
Jons columns get more and more tasteless each week. I think most people just laugh these days. Its my Monday morning comedy fix to be honest. It's a shame that News24 continues to see value in is work even if its only to evoke a response from readers and get more hits on their site. - Lisa |
|
 |
| |
Whites need to be honest for a change 15/04/2008 08:50
Funny how people like you defended David Bullard to the letter when he got fired. Makes you think. - Kabelo |
|
 |
| |
yes. 15/04/2008 08:51
I agree.
Jons column seemed to suggest that all that hold democratic values dear and value good sound governance and feel that Mugabe is doing wrong is a racist. Then ancient Greece, founding home of democracy, was racist, long before the white settled the shores of Africa. Interesting. - Denis Dendrinos |
|
 |
| |
Mugabe... 15/04/2008 08:55
I was chatting to someone the other day who said something quite chilling and that was if Mugabe was the official opposition in South Africa he would more than likely get more votes than the DA. - Now that is frightening. - Nick |
|
 |
| |
Easy solution... 15/04/2008 08:55
News24 is not going to stop publishing Jon's columns, quite simnply because everyone reads them and comments on them ad nauseum. The solution is to just stop reading them. It is entirely up to us decide what we do and do not associate ourselves with. I for one will no loner expose myself to the feeble ramblings of a senile and diseased mind. If other News24 users choose to do the same sooner or later News24 will replace his column with one that actually draws some interest. - JB |
|
 |
| |
Truth hurts 15/04/2008 08:56
The truth hurts and especialy when its spoken by people who you consider could be you competitor in anyway. The fact of the matter is that Zim people will be selling their counntry again just to get hol d of basic comodities such as magarine and bread (& carrot) to the british. - Facts |
|
 |
| |
Jon Qwelane is a confused attention seeker 15/04/2008 08:56
That was a desperate attemp for reaction from Jon. No person in his right mind can write something like that, can he? - Mark |
|
 |
| |
Jon's Column 15/04/2008 08:56
I totally agree with Dion Oosthuizen on this one.
Seeing that Jon is so pro Mugabe, why doesn't he give up his cozy job in post-apartheid SA and go to Zim and relive the struggle against oppression and poverty there. Seeing that he condemns the West in favour of dictatorship.
The fact that the struggle in Zim is for the same things that the struggle in SA was for, political freedom and poverty.
- Anti Racist |
|
 |
| |
I absolutely agree. 15/04/2008 08:56
I would like to know if Mr Qwelane would look a hungry and desperate Zimbabwean refugee in the eyes and tell him "Poor Mugabe is now the villian". - witseun |
|
 |
| |
right on! 15/04/2008 08:57
i detested some of the knee jerk "jon you racist, stupid etc etc." reactions to his column. this writing is sober, respectful and to the point - you managed not to become the evil you are fighting. - mokganjetsi |
|
 |
| |
Jon ..... 15/04/2008 08:57
While I agree whole-heartedly with youe sentiments, I do not believe News24 or JQ are ever going to change their outlook on life. JQ is a wannabe politician and News24 needs the contraversy. - KD |
|
 |
| |
Sensationalism 15/04/2008 08:58
I totally agree. The Piece by Jon was in bad taste and attitudes like his can only destroy our country. I also think that news24 should take some blame. Publishing work that can only serve to sensationalise is totally wrong and it distorts news24 as a reliable source of information. They want to see if they can get up to 2 million unique users ?. - Andre Kotze |
|
 |
| |
Couldn't agree more 15/04/2008 08:58
I'm disgusted by how Mr. Qwelane is trying to fuel the racial divide here by stirring up people's emotions through cheap tricks. You can't add a convenient disclaimer for every article, ?if you don't agree with this, you must be racist?. Maybe people really care about starving Zimbabweans suffering because of a poor economy- is that so hard to believe? Is it more noble to ignore that and rather focus on Bob's 'legacy'? - AK |
|
 |
| |
I Agree 15/04/2008 08:59
I think the only reason it was "published" was to incite a reaction. I have fallen into this trap numerous times, thinking i could rationally convince Jon that he was doing harm. His columns are all completely absurd! And the only way to get rid of his ranting is not to be sucked in. I am bored of his racist rubbish. I won't be clicking or commenting on his ill conceived tripe again. - Tim |
|
 |
| |
Dazzle us with the FACTS 15/04/2008 08:59
Not only was his column in poor taste but again he simply interpreted history to suit his own agenda. I am convinced now that he was hired just to stir and not contribute meaningfully to the discussion of any issue. I researched the Lancaster House agreement and fyi Jon - land was redistributed with funds paid by the UK to some 70 000 people as agreed UNTIL Mugabe started giving land as payment to his cronies. Like him you only choose to see what you want to. - May |
|
 |
| |
Qwelane 15/04/2008 09:00
Dion, you only have to be a regular News24 reader to KNOW (not wonder) that there are many who share Qwelane's views- so you are right, there is very little hope (some of us would say no hope) for this country. - SF |
|
 |
| |
It was deliberate incitement 15/04/2008 09:00
A cheeky stab at the known sensibilities (wrong or otherwise) is one thing. But to maliciously goad and jibe, whilst deliberately distorting alleged facts, such that they barely resemble reality, is neither satire, sarcasm, or wit. Not smart. Highly objectionable on many counts. I actually want someone to take this up with the press ombud. This was worse than tabloid junk. - SkerP |
|
 |
| |
News 24 loves this type of attention 15/04/2008 09:01
Dion it's not Jon that's the problem, its News 24, they so excited about the controvery it creates and just by the sheer volume of ppl commenting on his column and all the people that will follow here (like myself) just shows the advertisers how many ppl are viewing it. So complain about News 24. They are the problem here. - Sheree |
|
 |
| |
JQ and his views 15/04/2008 09:01
I am not surprised many would lambast his views. JQ is a seasoned jeournalist. He may be controvesial and mind boggling at times but let JQ speak his mind. Our constitution and young democracy allows freedom of speech as well as freedom of expression. - Concerned |
|
 |
| |
Boycott 15/04/2008 09:02
I doubt the editors will post this but i propose if News24 insists on publishing Jon Q's letters inciting political hatred without substatiating reason that we as readers boycott this site. Jon Q has been exposed in the press for what he is and News24 should not have double standards. - Bob |
|
 |
| |
If the Lancaster agreement is not the problem then what is the problem?? 15/04/2008 09:02
There is obviously a stalemate between Britain and Zimbabwe. If the Lancaster agreement is not the source of this problem maybe somebody should enlighten us on what really caused the stalemate, why the sudden change of mind by Pre. Mugabe to evict the farmers?? According to Jon?s article he believes the Lancaster agreement is the source of this animosity, Most of Jon?s article referred to the Lancaster agreement between Britain and Zimbabwe. Jon has got a democratic right to express his opinion on the so-called injustice which he believes Mugabe has suffered, I have read the article and found nothing racist? - Kolobe |
|
 |
| |
yon 15/04/2008 09:02
I think Yon was being honest in his letter.
His feelings is that of the majority of people in SA . These people had a very raw deal under the previous white goverment and cannot be blamed for wanting to prove themselves.
It is scary, no easy options, both staying in SA, or emigrating, is not easy. Ignoring Yon is a mistake, dont ignore reality, it may cost you in the long run. - realist |
|
 |
| |
Agreed 15/04/2008 09:03
Mr Editor, I too agree with Dion's comments. Mr Qwelane's article seems to stir more racial tension, as opposed to creating a positive mind frame amongst black and white South Africans, about the current standings in this country. Having acces to a powerful communication tool such as News24, journalists need to use this responsibly and wisely, and be accountable for their actions. - Joe |
|
 |
| |
Exactly Dion,... 15/04/2008 09:05
and the fact that News24 STILL publishes his racist columns does not help the SA citizen develop a sense of hope for this country! - Big R |
|
 |
| |
I agree 15/04/2008 09:07
I agree with this comment. And as news24 you have a responsibility to maintain a level of competency and moral integrity to your news and article you publish. If I want to read racist slander I will go and subscribe to the appropriate. I do not expect it in this forum. Having skimmed through the comments on this and others JQ articles he does not a following and does not generate debate (unlike the bullard commentary). Get your act together news24 or I am changing my homepage! - michael |
|
 |
| |
I agree 15/04/2008 09:08
Robert Mugabe is just another Hitler, and I am shocked that anyone (especially someone seemingly well educated)can condone his actions. I'm no politician mastermind but I definitely know the difference between right and wrong. I hope this was just written to get reaction out of people, otherwise I seriously doubt Mr Qwelane's sound state of mind. - Liz |
|
 |
| |
Boycott... 15/04/2008 09:11
I used to read Jon's column every week, I enjoy a good debate. I have stopped reading them now as I found them more & more disturbing. I find him to be racist and prejudice who uses his column to rant and spread negativity. This is not because I am white (I emgrated here, I choose to live here, I am NOT a racist despite Jon beliving all whites are) I think news24 should stop his column. I don't care if a columnist views are differnent to mine, as long as they don't amount to hate speech. - Natalie |
|
 |
| |
The creature we created 15/04/2008 09:12
I fully agree with your comments and there has been a clear pattern over the last couple of months as far as our Jon is concerned. Progressively he has become more and more controversial and reckless in his column and his views. Unfortuantely some of the respondents to his column have to take some responsibility as well. They responded to his ignorant, self-serving, and often clueless dribble in such a way that him and other respondents started viewing themselves as "blogging celebrities". - Ace |
|
 |
| |
Kabelo 15/04/2008 09:12
Kabelo, stop pointing fingers, nobody said Bullard's column was good or bad. Stick to the the subject at hand and that is if this column of Qwelane is in any way in agreement with what we are aiming for in SA? Say yes or no - are Mugabe good for ZIM, should he be president? - Hennie |
|
 |
| |
Qwelane - Shame 15/04/2008 09:13
You can't help but feel sympathy for poor Jon. He seems to be a person with one huge chip on his shoulder the size of the Grand Canyon. He writes his column with the aim of getting attention from everyone and relishes in their response. He probably can't wait for the next day to see the reactions.
- Andrew |
|
 |
| |
Jon can't write 15/04/2008 09:16
What he lacks in talent he tries to make up with his controversial writing. What a sad case Jon is. - AvdW |
|
 |
| |
Bullard vs. Qwelane 15/04/2008 09:18
I too read Jon Qwelane's column and found it not only offensive but unnecessary. Jon has been jumoing up and down ever since the FBJ mess and it seems that he has a bone to pick, with everyone. Understand that I'm not defending David Bullard, I'm merely pointing out that what he wrote did not amount to hate speech, bitterness or threats. Jon however, went out of his way, just about from the start of his column, to get in under white peoples skins. Is there someone higher up protecting Jon ? - Justin |
|
 |
| |
Howard Stern effect 15/04/2008 09:18
Jon is like Howard Stern.......... who love him read his stuff to see how "CLEVER" he is. People who hate him read his stuff to see how "STUPID" he is.
By going around and acknowledging his pathetic attempts at journalism is even worse on our own part but here I am typing away. If we ignore him hopefully he'll fall out of favour and "Bob's your uncle" (how ironic) out he goes.
- Danie |
|
 |
| |
No support for JQ - News 24 equally to blame 15/04/2008 09:19
I counted three responses that agreed with JQ. News 24 is the actual villain in this whole saga. They are pursuing sensationalism at all costs and to the detriment of reconciliation of South Africans. If people like Mugabe exist you shouldn't be surprised that there are people who think likes he does. Clearly the majority of South Africans do not support Mugabe's policies and therefor News 24 failed to create debate by this sensational rubbish the published. - Johan G |
|
 |
| |
im becoming more like JQ every day 15/04/2008 09:20
honestly i've come to the realisation and acceptance that most white SA are racist. I will no longer hold an olive branch. The reconcilliation in this country is only one sided, i.e from the darkies side. - tshepo |
|
 |
| |
Kolobe... 15/04/2008 09:21
Wiki-search the Lancaster House agreement. Essentially it set up a trust to fund willing buyer/seller land distribution. This was ceased in 1987 when RGM became Pres, and all bets were off. The landgrab in 2000 was a direct result of RGM losing the referendum to change the constitution. Effectively, a case of "I'll show you". The racism emerges when JQ suggests that MDC/Tsvangirai are instruments of the west, and in particular the (white supported) DA. JQ forgets the vote results to date, 50+%. - SkerP |
|
 |
| |
David Bullard VS John 15/04/2008 09:21
It will be very interesting to compare some people's comments on this with the one'e they made about David Bullard's article. - funnybones |
|
 |
| |
Leave Jon Alone you dictators! 15/04/2008 09:21
All you stiflers' of diverging opinions leave Jon alone.Everyone who writes an opinion that favours your whims you sing their praises the same applies to Jon when he criticises ANC-Led Govt, but the moment he differs with your opinions you cry foul and you cannot commensurate him with the irritating-pain-in-the-a**-bULL who was always partisan and gfiring at the Govt only and never to DA even once, make you think huh? - MJZ |
|
 |
| |
Trueth hurts isnt it! 15/04/2008 09:22
Why is it that white people dont want to acknowledge what they did was wrong, why must we always as blacks be appolojetic and not mentione all these evil things happened to us, if we do we are undemocratic and racists? JQ's column stated the facts as they happened, dont get me wrong, i am not promoting what RM is doing in Zim. all i am saying is, if we are to fix anything lets takle it from the root and stop passing the buck. - Bogalu |
|
 |
| |
Democracy says "free speech" 15/04/2008 09:22
In a democracy, which South Africa pretends to be, people are allowed to speak freely in pubic as long as they do not issue threats or incite hatred or violence. Jon's column was way off the mark, but it did not amount to incitement. I suppose SA must be a democracy of sorts because I have not been arrested for insulting the president yet. - James |
|
 |
| |
HEH HEH HEH....... 15/04/2008 09:23
I smell a concerted campaign against JQ by those who are not able to mentally massage an alternative view. To compare JQ to that DB is wrong. If you go and find out what the meaning of rascism is then maybe yr distorted view might lean towards the truth. Now my suggestion, lets talk about rascism and past actions, acknowledge yr part and dont blame others for your wrongs! - Cape Town Kid |
|
 |
| |
Tongue in cheek 15/04/2008 09:24
It is hard not to think that Jon's recent column was not tongue in cheek.Either that,or he really is the idiot so many people seem to think he is.After all if the MDC is a puppet of the West, then COSATU and the SACP are too, because to their credit they have been very vocal in their criticism of ZANU-PF and Robert Mugabe.
As for the not honouring the Lancaster House agreement, Britain knew that any money they provided for land redistribution would disappear down the toilet!The rot had set in! - Alex |
|
 |
| |
Democracy 15/04/2008 09:26
In a democracy, which SA pretends to be, free speech is allowed, as long as it does not amount to threats or direct incitement. Jon's columns are eccentric, but he has never said "kill Whitey" or anything like that. I suppose free speech is alive and well because I have not been arrested yet for insulting Mbeki or his minions. - James |
|
 |
| |
Jon 15/04/2008 09:28
I could be wrong, and I've followed Jon's offering on radio and the press now for years, but I think the current column is in reaction to Bullard's last insane one. I.e. we ask what is the fuss about Bullard but scream and shout about Jon's?! If you guys read Jon's previous offerings you will know that he was critical of Mbeki's quiet handling of the Zim issue. But Jon gets what he wants, a bunch of geniuses going and reacting stupidly about his column. - Coen |
|
 |
| |
Jon the Man 15/04/2008 09:33
Jon needs to join our president on the time-out chair in the corner of the classroom and think about their transgressions. They're actually both elligible for a rationality implant.
Sponsors, anyone? - Incredulous |
|
 |
| |
Well said Benzo, 15/04/2008 09:38
I reiterate white people need to be honest in their transformation. Reconciliation only makes sense when it suites them.
Jon want people to engage him on the issue not to insult him as many people in this site do.
David Bullard said "Zuma married a fat woman wearing an animal skin" and white people are defending him, so we are defending Jon.
Well don Jon. - Philani |
|
 |
| |
Are My Great...... 15/04/2008 09:38
....grand children still going to hear of the angers of the past. When will people of this beautiful country get over themselves and move on. I am sure there are BLACK children (New Generation) that want to live in a GREAT country with no crime and racism attached to everything. I love watching my 2yr old daughter play with her BLACK friends while holding hands. Funny how Kids don't see Black & White....Just Friends. !!! - Badger |
|
 |
| |
You all take jq too SERIOUSLY 15/04/2008 09:39
I have read jq's articles for years and have listened to him on 702. He is a normal guy who loves to be controversial. Its only when he spoke on 702 did I get to know his compassionate and caring side. He is perfectly normal. You guys take him too seriously. - EW |
|
 |
| |
Re: Kolobe 15/04/2008 09:41
You are spot on. JQ might have offended a lot of people by calling a spade a spade but I fully agree with him.The Lancaster agreement is the cause of the white farmers eviction and I am afraid Britain is going to inderectly colonise Zim when Tshangarai takes office. Mogabe was solely fighting for his land. - Sgoloza |
|
 |
| |
Re: Job Interview 15/04/2008 09:41
Jon, After your successful intervention on behalf of His Excellency Cd. RG Mugabe in the reactionary White Racist Press of South Africa, I would like to confirm that Cde Mugabe has accepted your application as the new Presidential Spokesperson for Zimbabwe. Your clarity of thinking and moral integrity should be a beacon to ZANU-PF supporters who number at least 13 million in our beloved country, and the same in SA. Welcome to Zimbabwe. We sent your advance of Z$300 trillion by truck today. Viva! - Bright Matonga |
|
 |
| |
face the facts 15/04/2008 09:44
the 1994 lullaby settlement is waning as has been the lancaster fraud. less than 4% of land has been redistributed, the face of poverty and squalor remains starkly black, the time bomb is ticking and these are the fears of the likes of oosthuisen who would rather hear stories of bright coloured rainbow than the reality of the common man. to hell!! - Maqabane |
|
 |
| |
Jon's column 'in bad taste' 15/04/2008 09:50
This wreaks of David Bullard. To Dion and his followers get a life because that was a good piece of information. How many of you knew about the Lancaster Agreement. Stop being childish and try to disagree with every article written by a honest "African" person. B4 i get a shleppy comment about me being racists - The word African includes all the Races of SA who read with reason, understanding and accepts the facts provided! - mjero |
|
 |
| |
No Problem 15/04/2008 09:55
I have no problem if Jon writes what he thinks, that is his democratic right. But reading his stories, everytime I get the feeling, that his writing is trying everytime to stir the pot. And he is a success with it. But yet again reading his colum, I see that he is not a journalist, he lost that ability a long time ago, what he is, is a "poker". You know that kind of person, who pokes you the whole time with his finger, till you explode. - padkos |
|
 |
| |
What reconciliation? 15/04/2008 09:57
With all the poison getting spewed by most white people on this site everyday and the support most of you have for anything against blacks what reconciliation are you talking about. I for one am tired of reconciling with people that don't care about my wellbeing, let alone how are I feel. And yes most black people think/feel exactly like Jon most of the time and there is hope for a black man in this country; who gives a damn if whites feel hopeless? - Mamamia |
|
 |
| |
Villain Qwelane 15/04/2008 09:58
Personally I think these comments won't help at all. I laid a complaint with the Press Ombudsman as I think this is blatant hate speech. He is being investigated. - maggie |
|
 |
| |
Suppression 15/04/2008 10:00
I sense the old SA tactic of sensorship with some people calling for Jon to be fired. If people can see light side and good taste in Bullard's column which exhibits gross prejudice, what's possibly wrong with Jon's? And to predict that SA is heading Zim's way in terms of land grabs is not far-fetched either. Ask black folks. If it irritates whites it ain't right! Ha ha ha ha...! - Chris-T |
|
 |
| |
Some whites are to blame 15/04/2008 10:01
I totally disagree with Jon's views. Mugabe is an opressor and Tswangirai is a liberator end of story. Western conspiracies are just a red herring.
Racist whites are the problem here. Mugabe finds support because of your attitudes towards blacks. Stop K-insults, stop painting blacks with white paint, stop dragging blacks behind your bakkies, stop throwing blacks in lions dens and stop shooting blacks because you thought there are baboons then Mugabe and his views will find no takers - SIMPLE! - Khoza |
|
 |
| |
Don't stop his column 15/04/2008 10:04
I am not a supporter of his views but reading his column reminds me that all is not well in SA. He is one of many that have the same opinions. If we stop his column we all might just start walking around with rose tinted glasses. - Brenton |
|
 |
| |
It's easier to break down than create 15/04/2008 10:05
At 702 Jon tried (and succeeded in)to make a positive contribution to SA. Don't know why he's become so bitter but recently he just spews controversy and division. Seem's like he laps up the attention he get's with these articles. Let's hope its just a passing phase.. - Nicholas |
|
 |
| |
|
|
| This comments facility is now closed. |