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Mbeki
12/05/2008 09:46
Learn the AFRICAN CULTURE!!Start at Kenya/Mau-mau; Portugese East-Africa/Angola; Uganda;etc;etc. Will it happen here as well? - Realist |
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We can't afford to lose to the DA bcos of Zuma!
12/05/2008 09:47
I still dont know how Ramaphosa and Sexwale dribbled their way out of the possibility of becoming RSA presidents. They betrayed us bcos they are the only leaders left in the ANC now who could have made a good president. Mbeki was my man during his first term, but things got messed up in his second one. Eish, and this idiot Zuma is not what I actually want for a President. With a leader like Zuma, the DA is going to gain more popularity, and that's what we can't afford! - Sello |
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He has shamed all of us.
12/05/2008 09:49
Your words are so true, it's schocking to see them in print...every word, every deed, those of the President of my country.
He is just a spineless old man...and certainly there is a massive can of worms behind his every action. Like a puppet on a string....but who is pulling the strings. I feel like puking when I see him hold hands the Mugabe. What a sickening sight...and there must be a minefield of facts behind it. Does he think that we and the world are blind and ignorant. Time to go! - Alicia |
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SA in general
12/05/2008 09:49
I am a white SA male and seem to have lost the plot will someone of the black cultural group please explain life in SA to me like a 2 year old. What do black people want from "us" white south africans? in all seriousness is this an acceptable way for the ANC / President to do bussiness. We whites are only like 8% of the population (and reducing daily)are we really to blame for everything in SA. You guys have all the power, all the AA, all the BEE, etc yet you can't get going with anything!!! - Mike |
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Why should Mbeki resign now?
12/05/2008 09:49
"Mr President, if you can't handle the job, please resign" Are you reallu serious? THis doesn't sound intelligent. How do you let a man to rule the whole nine years and just when he has eleven months to go, start pushing him to resign?
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bah
12/05/2008 09:53
Remember how important it was for the ousted ANC leaders (Mbeki & Co) to whip up international support, action and strong criticism against the apartheid government. It?s funny how he now leaves ?Zim problems for Zim to solve? when back in the 80?s, ?RSA problem were for the world to solve.? Nah he should go. I?d rather give Zuma a shot at it all. - red |
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Go Snoopy!
12/05/2008 09:55
Get the week starting with a bang. VERY valid questions and i think based on headlines over the weekend, Mbeki's own goverment are asking very similar questions. It seems confidence in the Mbeki camp is dwindling somewhat. - John Camp |
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I can't "snoop" to snoopy's level...
12/05/2008 09:57
Snoopy, you have already drawn your conclusions on the 10 questions, so your questionnaire is flawed...very bad article, try again next time - Happy |
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ANC
12/05/2008 09:58
ANC is a big joke,, Their supporters is now getting what they asked for !! Its good for other party's that the ANC is falling to pieces !!! Good news for SA They proofed that they can not run this country !! Replace them all !! - charlie |
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Enlighten Us....
12/05/2008 09:58
Snoopy...Can you please kindly enlighten us..what is it that you want President Mbeki to do with the Zimbabwean debacle...and the rest of the question I hope news24 forward them to President Mbeke...thank you - Kolobe |
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Why should Mbeki resign now?
12/05/2008 10:00
Well, Sello, he should resign now because I do not think our country can take another 11 months of blatant incompitence. That my friend is intelligence...by recognising that something is not working, and fixing it. - SAS |
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Feeling betrayed
12/05/2008 10:02
Mbeki's first term started off with such hope and optimism (for me at least) and it is so painful to see how he has betrayed the trust of the voters and squandered the legacy of reconciliation left by Madiba. And as for his friendship with mad, criminal Bob!...maybe that's why he doesnt see anything wong with Selebi being friends with Agliotti? - VG |
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Spinless
12/05/2008 10:02
Agree, with all 10 questions. I would have asked one more "Please can you and your cronies come clean on the arms deal?" Mbeki (I do not refer to him as President) is a spineless & slack individual. Resign and take Alec Erwin with you! - William |
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I think he is weak because he is hiding stolen money
12/05/2008 10:03
I really think that Mbeki has got something to hide. I am sure he has had someone stash stolen money away in secret somewhere and he is afraid of the truth coming out. In addition I think by his actions (and his words) it is easy to see that he is seriously racist (anti-white that is!) and he cares little for the suffering of ordinary people black and white. I am deeply ashamed that he is the president. He does not have my respect. He must go! - alan |
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Emotive subject
12/05/2008 10:03
You are sure to get some emotional responses to this one. In this country we cannot have debates without it turning into a race war. Reprint this article in 50 yrs and maybe you would get something out of it. But right now its just going to lead to lots of finger pointing. Sad. - Deon |
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To Sello...You Sir are an idiot!
12/05/2008 10:07
Why dont you want the DA to rule? Does a working government scare you that much? Look at the Cape Town...It is working, not like all the ANC run places! Instead of just being one of those fools that will still vote ANC, whilst the ANC continues to destroy the country, open your eyes, and think for yourself! - Truth |
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TM must leave
12/05/2008 10:07
@Sello, the only reason you are still holding on to your beloved TM is due to your culture. You just cannot get over it to vote for another culture group. @TM, let face the facts, it is starting to seem that apartheid was created to protect blacks from blacks. Harsh words and i know it hurts but if TM does wrong and the likes like Sello still vote him okay, then evolution requires another 350 years to do it trick. - KAC |
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Thabo
12/05/2008 10:08
He knows his days are numbered that`s exactly why he drags his feet with everything.He has nice golden nest egg waiting for him after his term in office expires,so why should he care about us and our problems. - fatman |
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TIA
12/05/2008 10:09
In the last year alone the scorpions have been dismantled, a massive corruption cloud is hanging over Mbeki and Selebi and then can anyone tell me what is the link between Mugabe and Mbeki?I know Mugabe painted the way forward to get Zimbabwe back from European law and supported anti apartheid but I would not even have a blind eye to my own brother?s faults like Mbeki is having. It is all corruption, corrupt, lying and stealing isn?t it. - This Is Africa |
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Kolobe
12/05/2008 10:11
If snoopy isn't prepeared i'll give you a couple of hints. Simple, Mbeki should "convince" Mugabe to stand down at once for a number of reasons. Here are a couple of simple ones, 1. The instability he is causeing in Southern Africa, South Africa in particular. 2. The human atrocities that he and his henchmen are/have caused. 3. The state of a once, very prospering nation lies in ruins. Enough? Really the time has come for change in Zimbabwe and that time in now. - John Camp |
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Snoopy
12/05/2008 10:12
One can understand your being perplexed by the way the prez has gone about things.However you cannot blame him for everything.He is only a figurehead for a party and its alliance partners.They pull the strings in the background and he is not advised but ordered to toe the party line.We don't have a govt here, we have a one party state.This party does not have the ability to re-invent iteself and will cling to failed ideoligies and policies no matter what. - psycobabble |
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the future
12/05/2008 10:14
with the current government, ALL SOUTH AFRICANS, have no future in this lovely country. Our president, that must managed his cabinet in a proper way to make this country prosperous, is a weakling. He must lead and manage by example. 10 Years from now, we're going to be in the same situation than Zimbabwe. Maybe we can flee to Robben Island. - andre barnard |
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the future
12/05/2008 10:15
with the current government, ALL SOUTH AFRICANS, have no future in this lovely country. Our president, that must managed his cabinet in a proper way to make this country prosperous, is a weakling. He must lead and manage by example. 10 Years from now, we're going to be in the same situation than Zimbabwe. Maybe we can flee to Robben Island. - andre barnard |
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The ANC and TM
12/05/2008 10:16
There is nothing he can do regarding Zimbabwe, know why? He is huge pals with Mugs, and only went there recently for a stop over holiday. He has let his people, who voted him into power, down. A very sad state of affairs! A really great article, Snoopy,forward the article to Mbeki. - carol |
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Guilty!
12/05/2008 10:16
He should have been OUSTED long ago. His lack of action on the Zim issue makes HIM just as guilty as Mugabe is! We pretend to be friends of Zim, but he ignores the cries of people who are being beaten, tortured and killed! If this were a corporate issue, he would have been fired for incompetence and mismanagement. Criminally, he should be on trial for corruption and murder. I have few regrets in my life, but for sure, one of them was voting for him and his idiotic motley crue. - AbFab |
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Chip
12/05/2008 10:18
i think Thabo has got a big chip on his shoulder because he is black. US and UK have every right to speak out about human rights abuses in Zimbabwe. - phillip |
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Personality Problems?
12/05/2008 10:23
Regrettably this seems to be what happens in Africa. Presumably he is the best they have and one has to accept that standard or get out. It does appear as if he has some fairly interesting personality issues and will probably die a very bitter unhappy man one day. Imagine being responsible for all that has gone wrong in SA since 1994 and Manto! - xhxosachief |
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John Camp
12/05/2008 10:24
In 2002 President Mbeki tried to convince Mugabe to step down then he refused...can you please suggest something different John...I wonder if you habe been following the Zimbabwean history?? currently mugabe can only be removed with an election or military retaliation..with the former in process and the latter impossible because of SADC and military support from china...Suggest other methods John... - Kolobe |
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@Sello and Kolobe
12/05/2008 10:26
As you are supporters of TM (Sello) and Zuma (Kolobe) and your logic is the same, can you answer Mikes question to SA in General please. - KAC |
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Another Question
12/05/2008 10:32
Why is it so easy to fire SABC staff, yet Eskom cheats are still sitting happily in their jobs? - Spineless president |
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Behaviour...
12/05/2008 10:32
What behaviour? - Martin |
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KAC
12/05/2008 10:34
I dont support Zuma...you obviously dont read my comments.... - Kolobe |
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Mbeki
12/05/2008 10:38
Well over the years i have been assessing his leadership myself from the stunt he pulled on replacing Jacob Zuma to his stand on HIV, i have come to the conclusion that his record has bee dismally poor. The Zimbabwe issue is just anaother manifestation of poor leadership and desperate tries to mantain friendship in the expense of the people of that country. - Thokozani |
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Shini Wham... Eish, I F****D up AGAIN...
12/05/2008 10:39
What? Atleast Mbeki's got an education. So he must step down to a babbling buffoon with St6,someone who is a ambassador of unsafe sex, sleeping with as many wifes as you can,,still singing his kindergarden shini wam crap and thinking eish, I am so good? Shame, these poor ANC fools think that the world still takes them seriously? Reminds me of that cartoon I am weasel...Will run SA into the ground to feed their greed and corruption and to proof themselves a point. April fool was a while back dude. - Jinx |
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Kolobe
12/05/2008 10:39
Well i guess we can eliminate him being removed by an election then, this leaves but one solution? Why can't we send a honest (emphasis on honest) peace keeping force that will ensure that an election is free and fair WITHOUT violence and intimidation? Let's face it, we have zero confidence in the ZEC. Another question to you, would you suggest we just turn our backs on the current situation in Zim? - John Camp |
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Poor Thabo!
12/05/2008 10:43
4th Term in the new South Africa and the wheels are coming off big time.I'm sure he will be able to pin this on the previous appartheid government.In '94 there was already power supply problems,terrible roads,shocking government hospitals,useless police-force,right!!I'm glad it's not me going down in history as the biggest failure on the African continent. - jls |
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John Camp
12/05/2008 10:50
Unfortunately I send and article to news24 about the possible Zim solutions..I critised Morgan Tsvangarai leadership skills..that article has not been published instead silly jokes posted by Bradon Faber are being published..Morgan Tsvangarai's millitant provocative vocal western inspired speeches are doing more damage than good to Zimbabwe..imagine if nelson mandela came out of prison spewing insults...then South Africa would have went to a civil war..thats the secret of removing mugabe.. - Kolobe |
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Silence is key for Mediation in Zimbabwe
12/05/2008 10:50
TM's silence over the situation in zimbabwe and in particular towards Mugabe is the right thing to do. Making public statements won't change the situation in ZIM, but instead it will make Mugabe shutdown and stop listening or working towards a peaceful solution as he did when Blair and Bush were making noise. I think President TM is aware of this and beside if one is a mediator it would be stupit to tell the world your thoughts cause you would loose the trust of one party. Now thats the truth. - Hero Nakamura |
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IMPEACH THABO MBEKI NOW
12/05/2008 10:50
Thabo Mbeki (remember, he's African)has become a "serial liar" of note. Crime being a "perception" in South Africa, the crisis (what crisis?) in Zimbabwe, asking us to "trust him" with regards to Selebi NOT being a shady character, preventing a commission of enquiry into the arms deal because "nothing wrong was done" and lately, deliberately interfering in order to stop a legitimate, criminal investigation by Pikoli into the affairs of Selebi - it all smacks of COMPLICITY.....HELLO ...ANYONE... - Anthony Ive |
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TM has lost the plot in his second term
12/05/2008 10:51
although making some valid points, snoopy TM is not a miracle worker. He's not CEO of eskom nor the judiciary that worked out deals with the travelgate mp's.
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Jinx
12/05/2008 10:51
I'm assuming you believe Zuma will replace Mbeki with your earlier comment? - John Camp |
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@Kolobe
12/05/2008 10:52
Just checking to see if you are reading them correctly. I know it is the other way round. - KAC |
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Mbeki's Legacy.
12/05/2008 10:55
He won't have one apart from being a spineless p**phol. He reminds me of George Bush. I really wonder what is behind his "romance" with Mugabe. - Ivan |
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mbeki must go
12/05/2008 10:55
the sooner mbeki leaves the better - donald mogotsi |
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Man has no integrety
12/05/2008 10:58
Mbeki has lied time and again and it amazes me that this discredited "leader" is still president. - Jonathan |
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What went wrong TM?
12/05/2008 11:01
May I say he's bewitched or what cause TM to be out of the way like this?Denial and aloof caused a lot of problems on his political arena and deemed to his downfall.Mr Mbeki was elected by former President because of his enterlectuality but now visa-versa to zero.What went wrong nobody knows only GOD get save Zenani's husband. - BETHUEL |
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Truth et al..
12/05/2008 11:02
Cape Town Local govt is not working for the poor and non-whites. Yr mickey mouse leader has unprecedented media support and all her fallacies and weaknesses is glossed over in one helluva media hype. Come and visit our townships and then drive thru University Estate, doesnt take a blind man to see the difference and it not about da buildings man is about the service delivery!My advice to you, be open and honest and call a spade a flippin shovel... - Cape Town Kid |
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John Camp
12/05/2008 11:03
Read Hero Nakamura's comment and my comments..did you realise similarities..I guess thats how blacks feel about Zimbabwe..not emotionally driven responses...true african patriots are behind President Mbeki's mediation process... - Kolobe |
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Anti depressants?
12/05/2008 11:06
Has anyone noticed on each and every picture of Pres.Mbeki's his excessive dilated pupils of his eyes? According to Wikipedia (search: mydriasis) this can be caused (among others) by anti-depressants.
Loony conspiracy or an explanation? - Haary |
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Should not resign
12/05/2008 11:10
By law Mbeki has been placed as president, so by law should stay out the full length of his term. Just as by law he should step down after the max two terms. Simple. - MJ |
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Bush..Putin...Brown..
12/05/2008 11:11
Cmon snoopy(dawg).At least No1 doesnt go around pretending that he is GAWD and a Mr know-it-all.I think TM has operated under very difficult circumstances. He a damn sight better than the buffoons above so count yourselves lucky it could have been worse. The problem with you guys, you are so unpatriotic.You ungrateful beneficiaries.I dont see you rolling up your sleeves and getting on board to make this country happen. We want our country back man so take all yr millions and SOD OFF! - Cape Town Kid |
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Why should Mbeki give a ****?
12/05/2008 11:13
He's earning a fat salary every month, and he'll get a nice retirement payout. Wether he does his job or not. - I think it's just typical lazyness! - Juan |
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Mbeki
12/05/2008 11:13
The Rainbow nation will never work. Why ?The ruling party last ruled 300 years a go. Since then SA got a modern infrastructure and modern values. Mbeki and co. constant struggles wants to rectify 300 years of white rule overnight. Unfortunately that won't happen and it's all going to end in blood and tears. 1994 will happen again with a new government as the needs of the masses will always outweigh what Mbeki can provide. Things can't go on the way they have. Forward to the 2nd Revolution. - piet |
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Mbeki's behaviour EXPECTED
12/05/2008 11:14
Unfortunately Mbeki is, like many African leaders, more about ?ideology? than sound judgment. The 'Africa ideology' is fundamentally anti-colonialism, practiced under the guise of democracy. ?Globalism?, wealth, quality of life, democracy, electricity, roads, water, law and order; all of these are of secondary importance. It is like this Zimbabwean government official said: ?IT IS NOT ABOUT WHO WON THE ELECTION, IT IS ABOUT WHO WON THE WAR?. And Mbeki has no problem with that, obviously, Zanu-PF being the FELLOW FREEDOM FIGHTERS. Bloody shame. - Ernie |
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Unbelievable!!!!
12/05/2008 11:18
That some people still continue to defend Mbeki.He has proved himself to be a useless president, leader, spokesman.The man is an idiot.I cant think of any other head of state in the world that would be smiling and holding hands with Mugabe while getting garlands put around their necks.It should have been a tyre instead. - nWo |
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DA or not DA
12/05/2008 11:20
Good day fellow readers, the debate seems to be as boring as ever over Race!
Not voting for a competent party and opposition (Much needed- to help keep ruling party in check)whether DA or not, is a wise Vote. ANC will win elections no doubt, but to have opposition in our tarnished land is much needed to ensure our land is run for its people- ALL PEOPLE!
Read Madam Zille's Background- Race should be meaningless as per Mandela's example!
www.citymayors.com/mayors/capetown_mayor.html - Madam Zille |
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Impotent Mbeki
12/05/2008 11:21
Mbeki and his cronies couldn't organise a p'up in a brewery so to speak. Its time people woke up and voted for the parties with brains and spines, a party where half the people aren't related to the other half. - AS |
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mbeki
12/05/2008 11:21
Lets all vote for the DA next year, please! - punter |
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Wake Up
12/05/2008 11:22
I have been around in most of Africa, and we are on the same way to the same problems!!, Wake up Mr presedent, don't let it go that far! I've seen very poor people in my life,,, Its comming for RSA!!!!! - victor |
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Let him finish his term
12/05/2008 11:22
It's only 12 months of pain, but, he must see his term through. He will probably learn not to reason and argue against the majority in his next lifetime. I almost vomited when learning about the letter to Pikoli, the man is done, finish and klaar. The less said the better. he was also my hero, I guess there are no more heroes out there. - Libembe |
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Not just about Zim
12/05/2008 11:23
What is happening in Zimbabwe doesn't just concern Zimbabwe anymore. By remaining silent Mbeki is making South Africa look very bad. Based on results his ''quiet diplomacy'' is a total failure. It's time to give someone else a turn who is willing to step up and do the right thing. Adios Thabo. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. - Andy |
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Mbeki's behaviour 'shocking'
12/05/2008 11:24
I agree with you but taking Zuma as our next president we will have more than 10 questions for him
Poor South Africa where to from here - Dineo |
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ANC Leaders or businessmen ?
12/05/2008 11:24
Thabo and his cabinet's behaviour towards the plight of the masses that voted them into power in 1994 is completely understandable. They (and their BEE buddies) are obsessed with accumalating as much money as quickly as possible.
Put them back in the townships without the free housing, medical aid, electric fences and private education for their kids and we will soon discover our REAL leaders. - ANC supporter |
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Apartheid wont come back...
12/05/2008 11:26
SELLO, there is no way the recycled national party(DA)can rule this country again. They had their time... - sss |
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as wrong as it was....
12/05/2008 11:26
in some ways Apartheid may have saved SA - it least it gave Africa another 50 years of evolution. 20 years ago would have been a disaster if Zimbabwe and other countries north of us are prime examples!! this opinion is shared in the commentary on the 'State of Africa" by Martin Meredith. Now we can have these amazing debates, but it seems the African Pysche is not going to be easily overcome - johnson |
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Cape Town Kid
12/05/2008 11:28
You're obviously robbing some village of an idiot. Why do you classify people who comment as unpatriotic? "We want our country back" Who is this "we" you refer to? Why do you compare African leaders to those from other continents when the discussion is related to home affairs? WHY is News24 publishing your comments??? - John Camp |
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No Leadership
12/05/2008 11:30
I think the current crises mentioned above is more than enough evidence of the total lack of leadership in South Africa at the moment. - Pangea |
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Kolobe
12/05/2008 11:30
Pity News24 "missed" your article, sure it would have made interesting reading. Perhaps you can slip it back into the system sometime. :-) - John Camp |
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Why Even Debate Mbeki?
12/05/2008 11:32
Why is this forum even debating Mbeki? His presidency is by now a well-established failure and he is clearly not going to change. Hopefully when he goes (if he goes, remember this is Africa)we'll see the last of him. Then we can start criticizing the incompetence of whoever replaces him. - Cynical |
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Confucious Mbeki
12/05/2008 11:34
How does Thabo appoint an enquiry to prove that he is a liar? What an Einstein! Then again all politicians when caught lying - every time their lips move - then refute the lie by saying that ''it was taken out of context'' - Filemon |
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sello why cant we afford the DA to gain popularity??
12/05/2008 11:37
change is good and perhaps the DA will be a breath of fresh air, this party has many colourds and blacks alike supporting it. Perhaps things are changing in this country hmmm. Sello dont be silly competition is good for political parties you should embrace change and competition between the ANC and its main rival party the DA this will ensure a healthy democratic situation in this country. - terence |
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All an Iluision to hide the truth
12/05/2008 11:38
All of you people are blinded by the actuality of what this whole game of politics is about... and you are all playing into the hands of a few thinking they hold the power. But blind will the mind of the indoctrinated sheep remain. The answer was given in the consciously written article by Snoopy - "He is a puppet on strings..." and this is the full view... why do you think he received an honorary Knighthood from the Order of Malta... an Order with history stooped in the world of Freemasonry - Conspiracy |
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Mbeki must GO
12/05/2008 11:42
The old man has lost it, " There is no crises in Zimbabwe" is as real as my 5.3 mil mansion at houghton while I only earn R5000 a month. we still have time to save south africa from the "africa continent curse" . and it starts by removing people like Mbeki. - Posley |
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another man's backyard zim
12/05/2008 11:46
on the zim issue what do you expect the poor man to do go on roit and cursed mugabe will that help the suituation, mbeki he is smart he does not want to step on people toes just to make the world happy rather guide them to solve their proplem them self.our backyard yeah he is a dodge leader - borgan |
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Ashamed to be South African
12/05/2008 11:47
Mbeki is a disgrace to our country. He makes me ashamed to be South African if this is the best type of leader that we can deliver. But, he is not alone, guys like Cape Town Kid and Sello do their little bit as well. - Dr DoLittle |
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John Camp...et al..heh heh
12/05/2008 11:52
You do not hold the monopoly on the debate and you do not set the rules.Comparisons are good in order to get a wider view.Hence we are not as dim and dof as you pretend us to be. heh heh - Cape Town Kid |
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Mbeki's behaviour 'shocking'
12/05/2008 11:52
I'm amazed that not one of you have commented about the fact that Mbeki "holds hands with Mugabe whilst Mugabe's henchman terrorise the opposition supporters". If this is not SUPPORT for Mugabe by Mbeki what is? - Eddie |
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Mbeki
12/05/2008 11:52
I think is time for mbeki to step down. he has overstayed which has made him complacent. I taught mbeki was a good leader but I believe he a really tyrant. if we dont purge him now, we will find ourselve in trouble at some point. I mean the guy is ignorant and completely disregard sa people, international community and zim people instead he is busy support his buddies selebi, mugabe and others. he fires his competitors zuma, dep minister of health, pikoli etc. his cabinet is corrupt. GO MAN. - 2Jays |
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ANC...
12/05/2008 11:55
Come on, vote some more, let them steel more, so that the people that needs it can suffer further..... - JB |
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Mbeki's Behaviour
12/05/2008 12:00
Is there any truth to the rumours that Mbeki is married to one of Mugabe's sisters?? that's what I hear around here. - Sana |
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african democracy
12/05/2008 12:02
If people do not realise by now there is a difference between african democracy and western democracy. Ask any african and this fact will be confirmed. African democracy is based on the "tribal chief in charge" syndrom whereby you can vote in a general election, but as long as you vote for this chief in charge you are OK. Just look at the comments of the black readers like Kolobe whose comments can be compared to that of a western 5 year old. - john |
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We are Madiba spoilt children
12/05/2008 12:03
We are all spoilt after having Nelson Mandela as president. He set a standard that no other president can hope to meet. I wish he could have been in power longer. :-( - Andrew |
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John Camp-Leave Cape Town Kid alone
12/05/2008 12:04
why cant you debate issues and leave other news24 users with their opinions...you obviously view your opinions as better than others...Cape Town Kid is entitled to his opinions and that is protected by the constitution..dont read his post if you cannot handle his opinions..if you cannot handle the heat then get out of the kicthen... - Kolobe |
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Can some clone Mandela please!!!
12/05/2008 12:06
Mr. Mbeki has done some things good for the country but unfortunately the good he has done will be diluted by his very grave shortcomings. He seems to be too obsessed with protecting the ?Africanist? idea. Tell him something is not working and he will quickly respond by saying people are simply undermining blacks. The man does not take criticism well but he never stops blundering. - Jusjazz |
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Who cares???
12/05/2008 12:08
The Country, both of them and, looking at it, pretty much the rest of of Africa has gone down the drain, we're here, they are there, most are leaving/fleeing....yet, we're still pointing fingers and going crazy, fighting like a bunch of 4 year-old's over a piece of candy, funny, isn't it? why do we fight a battle already lost, it's like blaming a cyclone destroying half of civilization and blaming it on George bush...hehe, funny thought, we should start working together...then again, who cares??? - Walther Coetzee |
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Pre-Mbeki
12/05/2008 12:11
Mr President you fought injustice with all The ANC had and you stand today as one of the leaders that drank from the same cup of wisdom Mr Mandela . It does not take a rocket scientist to notice that Mugabe has even dragged your name into this problem by the way you handling this. The rest of the world is saying away with dictators what are you saying . Give democracy a chance let it rid Africa of Dictactors and lets get respect back. Its madness for someone to be in power for more than 10years - micheel nyathi |
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Reply
12/05/2008 12:14
Sana, I think you are right. They are somehow related. Maybe that is why its all kissy, kissy huggy, huggy, and hold hand when they get together.Makes one think. - carol |
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Mbeki`s behaviour shocking
12/05/2008 12:19
I am quoting from a 2002 edition of time magazine
" Mugabe may have won re- election but Zimbabwe`s problems are getting worse......mbeki
can`t seem to bring himself to exert pressure on this little tin-pot dictator" I see 2 people walking hand in hand to the Hague one for crimes against humanity and the other for assisting him to do so. - PC |
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sss - DA = old national party?
12/05/2008 12:26
Man, you are so gullible to ANC propaganda. Well, in all fairness, ANC was taught propaganda skills by the best in the world. The communist Russians. Yeah, whats that other LIE? Zille is a racist. Yeah, she tortured black folks back in Apartheid. Think for yourself abit, please. - Sinudeity |
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At least some of you care
12/05/2008 12:35
amazed at the ignorance and blatant rasism this article has provoked. Citizens should be concerned about corruption & lack of accountability in all pillars that is supposed to keep the roof on democracy. Sa's people are fed up with the lable corrupt polleticians are branding them with(we are the laughing stock of the world)Get Mbeki out and send a message to the next president that the people want good governance. SA has enough space for all it people! - Straight Talker |
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