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Welcome to Africa...
12/05/2008 14:41
Welcome to Africa...
- Corne |
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user defect
12/05/2008 14:42
i can feel your frustration Trevor! i dont think its as much a system fault as it's a user fault?
R600 mill!!?? Eish .... - charmaine |
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Ha-ha
12/05/2008 14:44
HA-HA,Good one, sad but true!!! - shane |
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You don't understand the fundamuntals Trever
12/05/2008 14:44
eNatis is a BEE "intitiative" and sure everyone understands that there is no rocket science needed to design such as system. You need to, however, understand the bigger picture - viz, a few people became very rich and now someone else (the "fixer-upper") will also get rich. This is the "African" way! - bokkie |
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wrong
12/05/2008 14:49
Bookings,appointments, people not answering the phone has nothing to do with ENATIS my man. - T |
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booking learners problem
12/05/2008 14:49
GO to book at limpopo,same day you will know your test day(same as drivers license),no phoning,just go there early around 7am join that small que then everything will be sorted(at 12pm you will be happy man again) no-phone call,no-nosense,no-fuss - dr phil247 |
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We must accept hey
12/05/2008 14:49
Well we as citizens wanted to vote for change and we got what we voted for well ANC supporters in general so just accept that its part of the New South Africa and wait your turn even if it takes a few years. If you dont have the money to buy things from under the table you will get nowere in this country. O and yet we pay extra for this "wonderfull" working system everytime you renew your license or just ask for a copy. - Nastassia |
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As a Software Developer
12/05/2008 14:51
This is SUCH a ripoff. FIRSTLY, the forum software used is an OPEN SOURCE PACKAGE (Free). Then maybe, the developers had to handcode a few components. R600 million, for something I could have coded in a month (MAX), for a FRACTION of the cost. Some BEE dude laughed his ass off all the way to the bank. - Sinudeity |
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Stop the African way rubbish for once.
12/05/2008 14:55
This Afro-pessimism should stop. Yes, there are problems in this country, but to say this is an African way is downright bull dust. Not so long ago they were crying to be called Africans, maybe they are right, just need to look at the mirror when blaming Africa. The system was introduced to fight corruption and illegal licences whose holders cause serious damage to our economy. - Libembe |
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"Can't believe..."
12/05/2008 14:56
Had my licence renewed after 5 years.This time it took twice as long as it did 5 years ago.The joke is that everything was working.Big up to the team at Waltloo testing station.You guys are truly the most useless in the country.South Africa proudly devolving. - jl |
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eNatis probably
12/05/2008 14:56
cost R1 million, the other R599 mil went into the pockets of corrupt government officials. And looking at who wants to disband the Scorpions, it is clear to whom the corrupt officials are working for. - Tired of this |
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eNatis
12/05/2008 14:59
Maybe the problem is not the system itself, but the [incompetant/untrained] people who work on it... - jannie |
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Comments
12/05/2008 15:03
Please go to these sites before start sending yr comments, find out all there is no know before u write yr nonsense, about BEE
http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/business/2007/0704231035.asp?S=IT%20in%20Government&A=ITG&O=google
http://www.tasima.co.za/
- Motho |
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Dont Blame eNatis
12/05/2008 15:04
Hey dont blame eNatis. System have nothing to do with it. the problem is Capity. Try book somewhere where there few people around. - DurbanBoy |
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Hey
12/05/2008 15:06
I am going to vote ANC next time, then I can get some kick back, and pay off my car and BIG house. I am in IT and a system with that price must be something out of this world. - JB |
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Till Points
12/05/2008 15:07
Seeing the queues at till points in the local supermakets, are you at all surprised? - Martin |
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E-Natis
12/05/2008 15:08
Not all of us are fortunate to live in Limpopo, It's hell to book both a Learners Licence and Driver's Appointment, you get an appointment a year later. - Anon - ilhaam |
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Boring comments...
12/05/2008 15:10
wonder sometime show some people on here think...every discussion its the same people with the "this is africa" tune, nothing else to add.The topic could be about goldfish an some idiots will start with their this is africa remarks.Mind u the flip side of the coin is not so bright as well, with their blame apartheid routine...The system currently doesnt function properly but it has to soon or it will be replaced with a functioning one..trial and error - nWo |
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Werent this Enatis
12/05/2008 15:10
System deal awarded to a company with ties to the ANC , If I am not mistaken? you know its one thing to get the deal organised but good greeve , for that type of money at least supply a working system !!! Moeny gone system not working TIA !! - charlie |
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Libembe - Not Pessimism
12/05/2008 15:13
Just a BLATANT ripoff. ANY other software house could have done this for R50k. But no, you need a BEE partner, and some government officials, and the cost works out to R600 MILLION!!! Ive created booking systems before (One of our low budget airlines). It didn't even come to R100,000. YOU and ME (Taxpayers) are getting RIPPED OFF. Some BEE business man is loaded, and 1 or 2 government officials. - Sinudeity |
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Baseless.
12/05/2008 15:17
Poor article, and presumes too much. - MJ |
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Process
12/05/2008 15:20
Trevor,
Its clear that you do not fully comprehend the process involved. Whilst you are correct in your view that the average computer science graduate could write the application, this is largely irrelevant in the overall process. A single person, or a small team of developers, providing an efficient and cost effective solution, flies in the face of all that the government is trying to achieve. I suggest that you go back and study how African governments work in order make sense of eNatis. - Billy Bob |
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SLEG
12/05/2008 15:21
NOT A QUESTION OF POOR SOFTWARE - THE PEOPLE WORKING WITH IT ARE TOO "SLEG" AND OVERPAID TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE -- THEY ARE NOT INCOMPETANT NOR UNTRAINED - JUST PLAIN LAZY - FS |
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Hey Libembe ?
12/05/2008 15:23
Don't want to worry you buddy, But ..."It's The African Way" !!! Just look North all across Mother Africa. Ouch, the truth hurts I know. - Badger |
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I agree with Libembe...
12/05/2008 15:23
...It's not the African way...it's the way of a corrupt administration kept in power by an ignorrant voter base who vote with their hearts rather than their heads. - jkc |
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Licence
12/05/2008 15:26
I booked at Vereeniging and got an appointment within a week, why don't you do the same and stop whinning... - Got mine! |
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for R50k??
12/05/2008 15:29
Any other software house doing it for R50K....Im in IT, don't make me laugh! Junior IT consultants earn R200 per hour, Proj Man R800 up...Go make your sums...hahahaha - tokka |
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Trevor
12/05/2008 15:30
I take offense to your last paragraph. It is a sweeping and unfair generalization, and I do not agree with you. - MJ |
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Sinudeity
12/05/2008 15:32
R50k!!!! haha, dude you have no idea how big enatis is...I work in the same field and the costing of this project is about par for what other countries pay for similar systems. - T |
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Haha
12/05/2008 15:33
The artical that Motho provided a link to seems to have been removed :-), probably due to gross inaccuracies i.e. lies. - 2s |
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eNaughtis
12/05/2008 15:38
Judging by the info Sinudeity offers these guys who have made their millions from a simple system which should'nt cost a fraction as much as R600mill should be refered to Stephen Hawking for "Africas Einstein".They're bloody geniuses!1+1=R600 mill.Astounding! - psycobabble |
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Libembe...
12/05/2008 15:45
Truth unfortunately hurts .... Sorry to say , I got my code 08 in 1995 took me all of 3 weeks for learners and license , at the exact
Same place I have been trying for over 7 months for a appointment for another code license , with no luck !! Sorry to say that is the African way !!!
- tiekies |
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booking
12/05/2008 15:47
Go to a driving school and pay them R300.00 and they will do the booking for you.You will have a booking in two weeks. - leslie |
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@Libembe
12/05/2008 15:50
Not accepting the truth even if it explodes in your face like you are doing... I'm sorry IS the AFRICAN WAY! - Lucas |
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Badger
12/05/2008 15:58
I agree.....Libembe, if its not going to be like up north then please prove us wrong in showing how this system is not just another of the governments f^&% ups that they have made and turning this country into another Zimbabwe. - Win |
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I have the answer
12/05/2008 15:59
Phone any of these numbers - 012 803 9083 / 012 803 6618 / 076 164 2889 / 0832821502
You will be glad you did... - Chris |
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Where is our data sitting?
12/05/2008 16:00
enatis.com IP is 69.89.27.206, which happens to be on a box in America!! http://www.bluehost.com/
Is it legal for them to host all our private information on shared hosting overseas?! - concerned |
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