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Opening a can of worms
18/07/2008 10:23
I couldn't agree with you more. Well put. The statements made by the Prof only fuel the fire of hatred and racism that is still on going in this country. - Suzi-B |
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he may be generalising
18/07/2008 10:24
but he is not necessarily wrong in what he had to say, look at Germany, not all germans are nazis but there are still people who believe in the nazi doctrine to this very day. The far right wing in South Africa is only afrikaaners, and so it is only obvious that that youth may still believe in the doctrines that their parents believed in. Just because he generalises doesn't mean that the problem doesn't exist. - turbo_superboss |
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its overplayed
18/07/2008 10:25
White/black tension is VERY overestimated. Sure, there are some rural areas where there have historically been issues, but the vast majority of South Africans does not have an issue with other ethnic groups. Apartheid policies obviously created the impression, but I don't think we have any more racial issues here than what they have in the USA, Australia or the UK. - witseun |
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Angry whites? My @ss
18/07/2008 10:28
How dare this so-called professor make such statements? Afrikaners are amongst the most tolerant people I know...I am a proud Afrikaner. Afrikaners were the first to accept gay and lesbian people for one. Remember who started apartheid in SA, the Brits, with their concentrattion camps, English supremacy and making Afrikaans out as a common, backward language and the Afrikaners a stupid, useless, worthless lot. The Brits burned down farms, threw women and children in camps and left them to die. - Hugo |
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International sin
18/07/2008 10:29
I think being white is becoming an international sin. And no, Prof, I don't agree with you, so come over here and let me beat your head in! - Piet |
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Good article
18/07/2008 10:31
Why would I be an angry white youth when one of my best friends is black and watches rugby and drinks a beer with me on saturdays? Me thinks the media want to force the youth to be angry by writing such articles. They want to create hate and they have the perception that whites are angry with blacks but meanwhile the majority of white people in sa have at least one black friend! I blame the media for generating some hate which i do not have! - Crackerjackjack |
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agree
18/07/2008 10:33
Thank you! - what |
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wrong
18/07/2008 10:33
Qoute: "Sir, with all respect, who and what gives you the right to come to that conclusion?"
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Who gives you the right to question his opinion then? He's entitled to his opinion just as you are to yours. Please stop being so self righteous and the world will be a little bit better for the rest of us. - anon |
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My lense is different
18/07/2008 10:38
I benefitted greatly from apartheid and white domination. The key ingredient I received for free was my 'in-born' sense of responsibility, work ethic and discipline. Yes it all comes with a dose of prejudice but its easy to overcome this. My question is whether black youths are as successful at fighting their sense of entitlement as the white youths are fighting their prejudice? Of course both questions generalise. - Brendon Shields |
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Why?
18/07/2008 10:38
I dispise the generilation being pointed at the afrikaans in general. Most generilation comes from my english work collegues. I have been labeled racist, commen and my history and ancestry has been insulted on numerous occasions. mostly by people who has no history knoledge in the first place. Just random made up opinions.
Why do I constantly have to prove my selve as non-racist when I know in my hart that I am not racist. - Gatvol |
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Research
18/07/2008 10:40
I haven't read the professor's article, but his claims are probably based on research and supported by statistics. But, there are liars,damn liars, and statisticians. Research findings do not always represent a purer form of the truth than other ways of knowing - especially in the human sciences. As far as the distinction between right and left wingers go, it is outdated. Many people accross the spectrum are rigid, conservative and well, right wing in their attiudes. Take Ancyl as an example... - Academic |
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Enradged
18/07/2008 10:41
I could not belief it when I was reading the article... The younger society seem to have come a lot further than the professor in accepting a new South Africa. The professor's comments give me the impression he is still biased, holding grudges against the past. Seriously, just sit in traffic in any area where car-pooling has become a normal thing, and you can see that the youth are integrating at an exceptional pace. The middle class is going forward. - tjk |
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Afrikaans Youth
18/07/2008 10:42
I think that Afrikaans youth have all the right in the world to be "angry" so does Coloured youth and black... The enemy here is not society or the people of this country, it's government, the corrupt aspects in the ANC (which seems to make up about 90% of the ANC structure) and a few key politicians with hidden agendas. - Vernon Wolf |
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MANY WHITES
18/07/2008 10:43
I do understand your point of departure but what you also should have stated in your article is that there are some whites who do act and live there lives in line with what the Prof said ? it is people like these who need to be mentioned as they also do not contribute to nation building. As there are many white who are not racist there are on the other side as many whites who do not want to be a part of this black dominated country as they do judge people based on skin colour as I witness it everyday. - colin |
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policy, incomptence, greed?
18/07/2008 10:43
A pan is scorning a pot. Your general respose is that because of government policy, overall incompetency, and government official's greed people are disgrunlted? Which policy are you referring to? Did you want to say policies? Most of government policies are working well and conform to constitutional and democratic principles. Nothing is perfect! Who is incompetent? I have no doubt in the competency of Mr T. Mbeki and most in government's executive body? Not all people in government are greedy. - JR |
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Dangerous Whites
18/07/2008 10:43
I felt so deflated after I read the article by the "Professor". I am white and Afrikaans and dont know anyone like the people he described in his article. Sure we sometimes feel unhappy and angry about the state of the country/world at the moment (as do all), but it's not a feeling that overrides every other aspect of our lives. I dont think anger belongs solely to White Afrikaans people. - Liz |
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Government incompetence...
18/07/2008 10:44
Is making a racist out of me. And I apologise for it. - Sinudeity |
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also the black youths
18/07/2008 10:45
I think the article of the Prof is not balanced because some of us (Black Youths ) do feel angry at the white supremacy that ravaged our future so the white youths are not alone, look at the rate at which the farmers are attacked, the suburbs in Pretoria, and low interaction between whites and blacks in the whole country.
It tells you no one is reaching out to the other to the democracy people they must workout something before the fireball explode.
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But the Prof does have a point
18/07/2008 10:45
I'm German-speaking but married to an Afrikaans woman, so I move mostly in the Afrikaans community in South Africa. And I must say, especially amongst the youth, I still see a lot of people who are prejudiced, frustrated and aggressive towards blacks. The Prof may have generalised (somewhat), but the problem does exist. (Note: it ALSO exists amongst blacks, but that's not the point of this article.) - Mark R. |
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@news 24
18/07/2008 10:45
this concerned mother is talking a whole lot of bull and don't know why her article was even published, she say (The Afrikaner youths' troubled knowledge was transmitted through the family, the church, the schools, cultural associations and peer groups, IS IT FAIR) i say yes it is,the proff clearly said "angry" youths thats not Generalising if they are all angry then the proff is telling the truth - morena |
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Back in perspective
18/07/2008 10:46
I agree that someone in a position of authority should phrase what they say very carefully. However, racial segregation / discremination is alive and well:
1. Look to yourselves and ask yourself, would you be happy if your child married someone of different colour, truthfully?
This question is aimed at all people of all colour. - Yash |
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Are you kidding...
18/07/2008 10:46
Its not like the "whites" went on Radio saying that they would "kill" for anyone now did they. - CVM |
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i see your point
18/07/2008 10:46
Tru apartheid is over on paper.But look at America how many centuries and they still cant embrace racial intergration? Is it really possible for S.A to do it in 10yrs?? - jitesh |
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Nazis and Englishmen
18/07/2008 10:49
Just a question: Is this prof english speaking? In which case he should button his lip on Afrikaners. How would the world view a non-jewish german sprouting hate speech on jews who the germans put in concentration camps? Not well. But when english people start spewing their hatred for afrikaners (who the english also put in concentration camps) it is all good. Leave the afrikaner alone. They are either leaving, being killed or dying out anyway. Let them do it in peace. - Bridget |
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Black/White
18/07/2008 10:50
Racism, and distinguishing between white and black have been there for centuries all over the world. It is really sad to judge someone by the color of his skin. I agree with witseun that the tension is overestimated. Only a few individuals will fuel the fire, and keep racial issues in the headlines. Certain people just don't want peace. Some leaders only stay in power by using violence, racism and keeping people divided. (Zimbabwe) - Dexter |
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africans......
18/07/2008 10:50
i think as africans we are all used to generalising socio-economic groups based mainly on class differences.To say that the far right wing is ONLY Afrikaaners is the same as saying that the far left wing is only the Xhosa,or Zulu(ie.not Afrikaaners!)...but how many people still today live in our land with left wing ideologies,and are not black?Also to say that all Germans still believe in the Nazi doctrine is possibly one of the most uneducated and ignorant comments a human being could make! - ubuntu_my_ass |
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Silly lecture
18/07/2008 10:52
The professor's comments about young Afrikaners were very ignorant. If young Afrikaner's are turning to more militant groups, it's because they have absolutely nobody to defend their interests. I am a white, English-speaking ex-liberal living abroad. If I returned to South Africa, I would probably join an extremist group too. Do I agree with their racist elements? No. But who else would stand up for me if my wife, children and family were tortured and murdered in cold blood? - Chris |
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Racial Discrimination
18/07/2008 10:53
I agree but want to add that where there is racial tention amonst the yuths, it might be because if you have black skin you can get a bursary a lot easier than if you have white skin, this will create tension as its racist. So I agree its government policies causing this type of thing, the root of the problem for the fustration among the people is not colour, but rather the government policies based on colour. - denzil |
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SA killer...
18/07/2008 10:55
Racism and discrimination will be the downfall of this beautiful country! People like the 'Prof', who make unjustified statements and draw opinionated conclusions, just add straw to the camels back! I have faith that SA will come around and it will be THE country to live in! - ks |
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Well Spoken
18/07/2008 10:56
Thank you for the balanced tone of your article. Unfortunately, I think you may give people too much credit. Both educated and uneducated people everywhere are prone to generalise about population and race groups. We ALL do it, every day. We need to breed more tolerance and insight. - Warren |
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Everyone is fueling the racist fires
18/07/2008 10:56
ANCYL, Government, white folks, black folks, xenophobia. It seems everyone is on the knives edge. Everyone is driven to such an extreme that breaking points could be reached. Why not just love one another. Help whenever you can. - Sinudeity |
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look beyond our shores
18/07/2008 10:57
I personally didnt read the article in question, but I wish I had, that way I could have seen which idiot of a prof said those things.
the first thing one does in any academic field when making a generalised comment is to do proper surveys and studies. obviously this prof has no idea what research is and perhaps is too lazy, prefering instead to use his considerable brain power (sarcasm) to infer his own thoughts into statements which will affect thought of millions!
no repercussions though... - Craig |
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turbo_superboss
18/07/2008 10:58
turbo_superboss
I am not now nor have I ever been afrikaans, but my doctrine is right. don't generalize to support a generalization.
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Team Sport
18/07/2008 10:59
I agree. Isolating one section of society for general criticism will solve nothing, it will only fuel the fires even more. Fact is that many people form all areas of South African society feel the same about the country. Many people will agree and disagree with each other and about current policies. Lifes like that! Not until the entire country as a whole comes together to work on the problems will anything really change. Blaming one community will accomplish nothing. It just makes things worse. - Dean |
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Generally true
18/07/2008 11:03
I never read the article, but I can also agree with it. Most white ppl can be honest and agree to this. No one is born racist. In this country we have young racist, how can this be? These young racist and their stinking attitudes are not only found in rural areas. They are everywhere. This behavior is almost inherited. - Hero Nakamura |
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Few points
18/07/2008 11:03
First of all please make sure you use the correct English when pronouncing proudly that you are Afrikaans. Otherwise you conform to the other stereotypes of being Dutch. Also, do you honestly believe that the majority of Afrikaans people are not racist? You may get away with such a statement when talking to other cultures but being white and Afrikaans, I can tell you that you are lying. Or else, you do not have any friends and completely avoid your own culture. - Fne |
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I agree with turbo_superboss
18/07/2008 11:04
He may be generalising but not necessarily wrong.These youths were born post apartheid,so where do they get the influence from?The white students who beat up a black student for speaking to a white girl at the university of Johannesburg,why? Makes one think who is really'onbeskaafd'. - Godfrey |
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Poor choices of words
18/07/2008 11:05
It may be true that many white Afrikaner youths are angry, which is the initial statement (even if the headline casts the net wider), but suddenly that becomes all whites. There doesn't seem to have been any method with his opinions being based on nothing other than impressions. For example, I don't know any white people who don't think the "xenophobic" attacks aren't everyone's problem. This kind of rhetoric helps no one. - CTheB |
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TRUE
18/07/2008 11:06
The Prof analysis was spot on. Fact is, truth hurts. What he said did not surprise many in my community, and is even evident in this very same site if one looks at comments that are posted on a daily basis .What do you think happened to all the racists after 1994, did they just dissappear or emigrate to Perth, no they are in our midst. They present themselves as cultural and language activists ( read AWB, FF+,Solidarity, Afriforum, you name them). We are not stupid and can read between the lines - MAXX2 |
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Not only Afrikaners
18/07/2008 11:06
I am sorry turbo_superboss, but the far right wing 1) is NOT only Afrikaners and 2) is Not nearly representative of the majority of Afrikaners. Following your German analogy: it would also be wrong and inflamatory to state that Germans (in general, as a whole or in the majority) are dangerous facist skinheads.
There are many Afrikaners who are trying to embrace change and we don't appreciate being labeled racist and angry if we aren't. Well written, thanks for speaking out - Vince |
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I agree with you guys, but...
18/07/2008 11:08
i think a lot of us have a "it was a bad past, lets move on" attitude and no one wants to deal with it, hence we have these racial outbursts once too often. i don't think we understand each other at all. has anyone ever gone to these afrikaans youth to explain properly to them what apartheid did to us blacks and the need to redress the wrongs brought upon by that doctrine? do we blacks undertand that no all whites are racist? 14 years into democracy and we're still as backward thinking as ever... - Thabs |
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@TurboSuperBoss
18/07/2008 11:09
Boet, there you go again, the whole point of this article is that sweeping staements, especially on the subject at hand are unfair and wrong. Trust me, most of the most extreme racists I know hold BRitish Passports. You probably do to. Apartheid was not the sole domain of the Afrikaner, it was all white South Africans. Now a days the most extreme racists are not white. Gpo by a new car, the SUper boss is so last century - Stryder |
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mmm
18/07/2008 11:13
I want to agree with witseun, racism is there and alive, but overrated!people do not hate each other so much, it is often fuelled by politicians who wants to achieve their narrow objectives. however, i agree that not much has been done towards integration! im personally annoyed with black/white notion in this country, we cannot even judge a person just as a person, we first use the skin color as an entry point, and this is amazingly irritating. - odita |
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Not so untrue
18/07/2008 11:13
I live in a semi-rural area - town classified as a city. A wholesome lot of expecially young men in this area are exactly like that, mainly due to culture inherited from parents and frustration due to AA. I hear and see this daily. So, unfortunately the professor is not so totally incorrect in his findings. - TB |
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Fne...
18/07/2008 11:14
You're jumping on the same band wagon as this Prof. You are assuming, and in a democracy, that is not fair. Where is YOUR proof?
For those of you who missed it please find a link to the article here: http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2359469,00.html - Philip |
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Fools paradise...
18/07/2008 11:14
Not only are you contradicting yourself BUT I am at a loss to understand why once again you fail to take responsibility for what the Prof is saying. Admittedly, white youths have not been overwhelmingly patriotic or willing to participate in building this NEW SA. A snapshot of comments herein should give you some insight into their myopic and jaundiced thinking.It is your duty to correct this. Do not excuse that which is wrong, become like the rest of us. BUILDERS AND NOT BREKERS! - Cape Town Kid |
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Take off the blinkers...
18/07/2008 11:16
...and read the article properly! The opening paragraph states "MANY Afrikaner youths...". The Prof is not making a sweeping generalisation. - Bruce |
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I am a afrikaner
18/07/2008 11:20
and I am damn proud to be one,so let me tell you what makes us angry,whe are being blamed for the sins of our fathers,and whe are being persecuted by the goverment for their faults,whe get labbeled racist,arrogant,stupid,if whe don't agree with goverments stupid policies,and when whe get told that all afrikaners are the same,please I am not terreblanche,never will be so don't compare me with him. - proud to be white |
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I am a afrikaner
18/07/2008 11:22
and I am damn proud to be one,so let me tell you what makes us angry,whe are being blamed for the sins of our fathers,and whe are being persecuted by the goverment for their faults,whe get labbeled racist,arrogant,stupid,if whe don't agree with goverments stupid policies,and when whe get told that all afrikaners are the same,please I am not terreblanche,never will be so don't compare me with him. - proud to be white |
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so what
18/07/2008 11:22
i agree with you. there are always going to be differences in society - that is essentially the cruz of "society". why dont we all turn into robots with no differences or opion. How boring. Just goes to show that having a title of Professor does not imply you are intelligent but merely academic. - bob |
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Generalisations
18/07/2008 11:23
I read the article when it was published and I remember that it came under serious scrutiny from all sides. All I propose is that everyone firstly agree on the facts and then try to come to a mutual conclusion and then try to fix the problem...not to do it by making way out statements to get some attention - like the Prof, some YL leaders and most politicians. - Andries |
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It is
18/07/2008 11:23
It's called propaganda. - Propaganda |
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@ anon
18/07/2008 11:28
To quote you: "Who gives you the right to question his opinion then? He's entitled to his opinion just as you are to yours. Please stop being so self righteous and the world will be a little bit better for the rest of us" Yes, everyone is entiteled to their own opinion but this is a professor! When they make comments it usually based on research and statistics. He didn't refer to either. My opinion: He knew it was contraversial and said it to gain publicity. - Anti-Prof |
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Where to?
18/07/2008 11:29
I am white and afrikaans. I am not racists, but then again, convincing anyone who will read this of that is impossible. So as my future here is damned if I do (try and work with everyone else but for the most part just get ignored) and damned if I dont (by sitting back and just moaning about the problems), what else is left? Can government organise an extradition for all those who want to "return" to their "ancestoral routes". Can I suddenly get an EU passport because I "dont belong in Africa"? - Lehan |
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so tired of it
18/07/2008 11:30
I'm so tired of the same old thing being written, why can we not just work together to build a new nation. Some white & black people are racist, so what get over it. Are there not more non racists then racists in this country. We are the ones that should get together and start a new Party based on what is right and what is needed to take this country forward. - Nick |
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black propaganda
18/07/2008 11:30
I'm sure there's many 'white' professors that can do just a great study too on 'black youths' which would be even more shocking.
It does not surpise me that this particular study was done by a black professor which articles are usually biased towards a certain race.
Typical black nationlist propaganda - Henri |
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@Craig
18/07/2008 11:31
yes Craig you didn't read it, go read it then is then that you can say proff is an idiot or not now you the idiot by getting in an argument withou knowing where how who started it - morena |
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@Witseun
18/07/2008 11:31
I agree with you. Australia in particular, is the most racist country in the world! Second is the USA. In Australia a non white knows his place. Maybe that's why our white brothers are flocking over there....By the way, a general statement is usually true for most but not for all. (please post this time :-) - Fraud |
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Cold Fact
18/07/2008 11:32
Firstly to be a Prof you need a minimum of 3 degrees, graduate degree - honours degree - doctrual degree + thesis, and yes his opinions should be noticed, and in fact are correct. To overcome and move forward we have to face up to fact and deal with it not go into denial, lest we repeat the mistakes. This response is stereotyipical of an individual blinkering the past and not able to move forward - concerned about the mother - Jedi Master |
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Maybe I should .....
18/07/2008 11:33
write an article about the Black Youth Complexities. There lack of pushing for education, there laziness to learn, there inefficiency to run any form of business. There constant demand for Hand outs. (Not Really!) This is generalization of a culture. Just like the professor?s statement. You cannot assume something about everyone, based on the actions of some. Think before you speak. (Sorry if I offended anyone, just trying to make a point here) - John Smith |
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Perceptions and reality
18/07/2008 11:34
It most probably is a generalisation. Unfortunately it is probably also true that any effort to argue successfully against the perception of "black incompetence, black greed, black barbarism and black retaliation" is too easily negated by Media coverage of very real occurrences that supports this perception ? and is sadly, often supported by personal experiences. A sad reality of our society which could only be addressed by a general change in mindsets which should start at the top. - Cepe |
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Truth hurts
18/07/2008 11:37
The prof was correct. - sss |
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Happy B-Day Madiba
18/07/2008 11:38
News 24 why i you publishing such articles on this day, could have chosen another day. In respesct of the Old Man let's just forget our differences for once,hold hands and sing happy birth day for Madiba. - The Native |
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read what I said snow white
18/07/2008 11:40
where did I say all germans are nazis? if you can't read properly don't comment on what you read - turbo_superboss |
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@ Anti-Prof
18/07/2008 11:41
He's just a professor, that doesn't mean he knows anything. If he's not taken seriously he isn't causing any harm.
All you the text above is written because people take him seriously. Personally, I think my day would've been better if I haven't read any of this. It's conversations like these that make us negative and depressed about the state of our nation.
Enjoy the day! - anon |
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Hugo...
18/07/2008 11:42
be careful, you're being a hypocrite, your comments are more of the same just yours are against english speaking ppl. look, every race, tribe, culture has had its blemishes at some point in history, if we continually dredge up those blemishes to use against people today we'll never unite and never move forward. - OB1 |
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Comments above.........
18/07/2008 11:44
confirm what the Prof has stated. ENOUGH SAID! - Alu |
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@ colin
18/07/2008 11:44
"...are some whites...who need to be mentioned as they also do not contribute to nation building.." Its not the point of the article. Then Julius Malema and clown Vavi should be mentioned as well, but it is not the point. - jannie |
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White and Angry!
18/07/2008 11:44
Yes I am for sure. Why not, we have to enclose ourselves in suburban prisons to give our kids kind of a safe upbringing. The land is ruled by criminals, blacks only shout racism when it is white people doing things against blacks, to be white nowadays is a bit politically incorrect. (Not only in SA). So yes, I am white, Afrikaans, angry, not a youth and I am staying. - BigBang |
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Afrikaaners
18/07/2008 11:45
the afrikaaner cultures is build on racism thats a fact and yes 95% of afrikaaners are racists and so is the ANC but to thier defence they also want to feel how it is like to look down on people beacuse of thier skin and its working fine for them cause they are getting damn rich, so afrikaaners you only have yourself to blame - morena |
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Angry White Youths
18/07/2008 11:45
If the shoe fits, wear it! I see we are all feeling very sensitive today. I would like to respond to Hugo about the British, Concentration Camps, etc. Yes the British did all that, they have never denied it. However it was the Afrikaans who actually wrote into LAW apartheid policies & mechanisms. There is a human conditio inherent in all of us - we stick with what we know & who we know. The Afrikaans took it to the extreme. - Grace |
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It might be true...
18/07/2008 11:46
...that many young Afrikaners are harbouring the same feelings their parents do towards blacks, but through no fault of their own. How long did government think they could implement BEE/AA, negatively affecting white youths futures that were born after 94', and not turn them into racists? You create your own racists, by excluding minorities from the mainstream, based on skin colour. - Francois Roux |
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I don't see anything wrong with Professor Jansen article
18/07/2008 11:46
But the article wasn't meant to promote racists comments by black people on this site either (and they should not be published!Get the point News24?). Its about shedding light on the Afrikaans youths and white youths in general.It is meant for white Afrikaners to reflect on themselves. And to my knowledge his article is quite accurate.It would be nice for News24 to publish other research on other cultures and races too. Its now a bit too one-sided - M |
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Godfrey
18/07/2008 11:47
The white students did not flabber the black because he was speaking to a white girl, they flabbered him because the black was saying disrespectful things. Oh, they did not KILL him they just gave him a hiding. - bekkie |
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Afrikaans people
18/07/2008 11:48
To al readers: The word Afrikaner is afrikaans for african, therefore the statement in english would be that african youth are angry. spot on. - Hansie |
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I'm a tourist
18/07/2008 11:51
Blacks says that, we, who were born in SA must leave. After hearing this every single day of my life , I FEEL LIKE A TOURIST IN MY OWN COUNTRY. So much for the "Welcome to South Africa" campaign. Plz treat me then like a tourist and behave! - Tourist |
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What do you expect
18/07/2008 11:51
We live in a country where work is scarce and the colour of your skin is more important than competence. Our people are brutally murdered and raped every day, most of these crimes being committed by blacks. Democracy has benefited mostly the elite black politicians. Incompetent government officials go unpunished, corruption is tolerated and those that make waves by doing their jobs properly are dismissed. These are not values of an integrated society. Our moral compass is broken! - Riaan |
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move forward
18/07/2008 11:52
Cant we all just be South Africans, move forward and build a better future for ALL. I understand goverments policies on AA and BEE, but I think it creates more racial tension - reversed apartheid? - TC |
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'angry white youths dangerous'
18/07/2008 11:54
We all know racism is rife in,SA but for MADIBA's sake lets try to live in,harmony black&white .Like real'RAINBOW NATION'.
- tbos |
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@Bruce and blinkers
18/07/2008 11:55
Did you read the article? It starts with 'many' and 'Afrikaner', but he's eventually making statements about 'whites'. - CTheB |
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PROF...
18/07/2008 11:55
This is just brilliant...
He cited the Waterkloof Four, the Reitz residence "initiation" video, and the Skierlik killings as examples. This was horrendous acts, but COME ON, what about the rape of elderly woman and children, farm murders, everyday headlines of brutal attacks and killing for R200 and a cellphone, telling and "asking" fellow supporters to kill for Zuma!!!
Prof, lets meet, then you can write how a white laaitie kicked your arse...and not 'cause of the colour of skin!!! - Willem |
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research
18/07/2008 11:55
Maybe the prof should do some research on which race/language is the MOST racist??Should be some interesting reading.I am afrikaans and damn proud of it!!!I am not going to perth and i am NOT racist.Im staying in sa to help build this country...!!! - Johan |
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Racsist Afrikaners
18/07/2008 11:57
The last time the media had anything bad on afrikaners which they could blow up out of preportion was the reitz story.So they will use they very scarse oppurtunities to put the afrikaners in a bad light.Look at all the funny question that were ask about christian attending a meeting in Natal.They are scared,looking for a leader etc,Our ancestors are the dutch and the are seen as the most tolerant towards foreigners.
Put it in your pipe. - Chris |
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so what ?
18/07/2008 11:58
European Africans should stop calling themselves Africans.If you are GATVOL,FOKOFF,go and look for your ancestors,they lost you. - wank wank |
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Hero Nakamura and Godfrey...
18/07/2008 11:58
Racism is not necessarily inheritted. It can be instilled by in individuals simply by them observing there circumstances. Is it so hard to believe, when so much hatred is directed toward white youths by blacks for things they didn't even do, when they're not allowed jobs cos they're not black, when the majority of crime (especially violent) is inflicted upon them by blacks. Is it really any wonder why they BECOME racist? its the same way blacks became racist. Why are Youth league youths racist?
- OB1 |
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Reclassify
18/07/2008 12:00
Why not just reclassify all ?White Afrikaners? as ?Racists? and get it over with, despite our best efforts we are constantly labeled as such anyway.
- Hennie |
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Let everyone shine!
18/07/2008 12:00
In my opinion, I believe that we as people ought to develop a more inclusive approach and perspective; there is going to be trouble whenever any perceived grouping is marginalised or is penalised for mistakes committed in the past and by a previous generation altogether. Whether white or black or whatever, every human being must be given the same rights of full participation in all relevant areas of life so as to fulfil their potentials as human beings. Everyone is meant to be great! - Kenneth |
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making our way
18/07/2008 12:01
At the end of the day everyone one of us is just trying to make our way in the world. everyone has an element of rascism, bigotry sexsism blah blah blah in there personality its only when you lose the plot and kill someone that it becomes an issue. - cameron |
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What should we do???
18/07/2008 12:01
People in high places can say what they want without any consequences these days,, it's called "Freedom of speech"??? TWAK
Thank you for your article, I could not agree more! The people in the SA today are the people who wants to build it it up and develop it... Safety and Security minister should have said "If you are not going to help develop the country and try to the destruct it, you must leave the country" Here is my list of other high profile people who just do and say stupid things The list goes on, the health minister, JZ, ANCYL Leader, Energy minerals Minster, Health minister, Eskom and now this professor or the maybe the journalist?
I think the reason for allot of these outbursts are aimed at the wrong people are that whites are sick of crime and farm murders, and all the other South-African races are also sick of crime. Our focus should be to alleviate poverty and get rid of criminals? - MOB |
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Young Afrikaner
18/07/2008 12:01
I'm a young Afrikaner, and though I do not cling to prejudice, I know how this will end: In full blown anarchy. We wait for the inevitable... - Boesman |
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Cape Town Kid
18/07/2008 12:01
Despite the fact that whites are disadvantaged in this country, they are in fact, contrary to your assertions, of the MOST Patriotic citizens. They contribute as much if not more to nation building, they are proportionately far more productive than blacks (Hows that for generalising? If you can do it then so can we all). - OB1 |
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To "proud to be white"
18/07/2008 12:02
The spelling is "We" and not "whe" because i see you have repeated the word several times.....now what were you saying about "stupid" policies?????? - The Native |
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@godfrey
18/07/2008 12:02
well you say whe inherited it...one question then. Where does all the viewpoints that young black youths have come from.You are white so you have a lot so I can take and steal cause you owe me....i can tell you...also from their parents, societies and peer groups!! - pieter |
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War invertible!
18/07/2008 12:02
If the ANC should continue with their propaganda and race hate, you will see a social uprise and war withing the next few years or even months within our borders.
There are more people prepared then what they think. - Koning Dawid |
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Whites did not benefit from the old regime
18/07/2008 12:03
I disagree that whites benefited from the old regime as they created a bubble fro themselves by not understanding other cultures and people. Most Afrikaners don't have a single non-white friend, and find it difficult to deal with other cultures. They are unfortunatley now dealing with cultures from Asia which is unknown to them. If they stop jumping to the UK(how times have changed) Oz and New Zealand , they will understand the world better. Soon there will be no white havens. Asia will dominate - John |
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MAXX2
18/07/2008 12:04
Dude,you are so wrong,why do you say the FF+,soldarity and afriforum are racist?Just because they look after the intrests of the afrikaner?Whe are according to the constitution,entitled to freedom of choice,I choose who I associate myself with,I have plenty black friends,but you are the type of person who is anti-white,and believes all whites are these evil racists,but look at your own kind,like the ANCYL,who are the biggest racists in this country,it's people like you that make us angry!!!!! - proud to be white |
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Afrikaaners
18/07/2008 12:06
It is just too easy to target the Afrikaaners. It is so politically correct in this country where the black racists make BEE to get all their useless ones in positions and ruin the country from top to bottom. They then have to do a mugabe to hide their racism and stuff up so they attack the whites. It is easy for a person to ride on these coat tails and milk himself some glory. And no, I am not an afrikaaner. - Eden |
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Accept....!
18/07/2008 12:09
People should start understanding that the Whites will NEVER be tolerated by the Blacks in this country,ever.
Afrikaners will always be racist, one way or the other and Blacks will always resist. This is Africa 4 Blacks, if you cant deal with them, you better start packing - black diamond |
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@anon
18/07/2008 12:10
stop being so argumentative. Everyone makes statements from time to time. I'm sure you're probably very opiniated about your own belief and convictions. get a life ! - White_African |
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@ubuntu_my_ass
18/07/2008 12:11
where did I say ALL germans believe in the nazi doctrine? - turbo_superboss |
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Did apartheid anger the blacks?
18/07/2008 12:15
Of course it did. So Prof, unless you are a racist yourself, it should make sense to you that the ANC's black nationalist (reverse-apartheid) policies are going to anger the whites.
Get rid of the ANC's politcally correct apartheid, so that the reconciliation begin! Otherwise, reap what you sow, Mbeki! - Puhleez |
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who cares
18/07/2008 12:15
Let the prof think as he will, the reality is that the we are losing a generation of Afrikaner youth in RSA, not being responsible for Apartheid, but being discriminated against none the less. These kids are "Kinders van die wereld" and will succeed regradless of this prejudice, their gain will be SA's loss, where will the new Chris Barnard,JM Coetzee,Ernie Els,Francois Pienaar, Charlize Theron,FW de Klerk,Jan Smuts etc come from? to name a few.. they will represent OZ,USA,UK,NZ etc, what a sham. - steminibos |
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