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OMG
03/10/2008 13:13
What a horrific story.Perhaps you should see if you can't talk to the teachers at the child's school - if he is being abused they should have noticed something.Think the authorities are more likely to take a teacher's complaints seriously.Good luck - and thank you for trying to help. The world needs more people like you. - VG |
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So sad
03/10/2008 13:14
That is the saddest thing I have heard in a long time. Why If they don't want the child do they not put him up for adoption. There are people out there who would love and care for him. Those people should be dragged into the street and beaten themselves!!! - Nicole |
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'He slipped and hit his head'
03/10/2008 13:19
Im glad to see that atleast some people still care for our children "You and your husband." - Natalie |
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ABUSE MOTHER
03/10/2008 13:19
I agree with you I am a abuse mother who's son is abusing me after so many calls to 10111 and 112 on my cell phone the police did not even bother. he held me and my daughter hostage inside the house when we got the change to go out of the house where he was hitting me one neigbour came to my rescue and I got into my car and when to the police station which they told me that they only got one vehicle to sent out and I am not the only victim there is millions of people. I must be killed first - DOREEN |
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@Tamara
03/10/2008 13:21
Don't get put off, you are doing the right thing. Keep fighting for that little boy, he needs your help. - Rian |
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Children's Homes
03/10/2008 13:24
Abused children who are taken from their parents by childwelfare services are placed in childrens homes. They parents may still see them over weekends. I took some tioletries for these children. A girl, aged approx 5, asked me if it is a brand new toothbrush because her mother asked her to give it to her. The child had bruises on her face. The parents sell the kids birthday gifts that I gave them, to be alcohol. And I can't have children... - HT |
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Suffer the little children....
03/10/2008 13:25
This story is so sad! Do our little children really have to suffer like this? Our system is as much to blame for the abuse of this child as his parent. It makes me wanna get up and smack the both of them so hard that they'll wake up and realise how selfish they really are. That is the problem, no one really gives a crap anymore. I take my hat off to you for helping the poor child!!! I will forever respect you! - FranMan |
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Disgraceful...
03/10/2008 13:25
Welcome to South Africa and our excuse for a justice system... If we cant rely on the police and child protection services, who can we rely on. Its so sad that kids all over SA are going through this and our government institutions couldnt care less. - C |
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Incredible!
03/10/2008 13:25
I'm shocked to read the article and how far one has to go to get something done. I applaud you, Tamara for trying but where are the authorities in this? Basically, it is just one incident out of millions and they all rest on one solution. For government to start getting public services back on track! Home affairs, healthcare, protection etc. Oi! - Brian |
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Child abuse.
03/10/2008 13:26
I know of too many people who are victims of abuse, and sadly when they are older and have children of their own the cycle continues. I am strongly against woman and child abuse. There only a couple of things that get me really mad and abuse is one of them. If these people whant to shove someone around, be a man and take on someone your own size. Tamara I appreciate your effort but can sadly not give you the answers you looking for. - Bas |
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Well done
03/10/2008 13:26
For doing all you can to help this little innocent child. It is desperately sad to think that we have so many systems that often fail to do the basics of what they are required to do.
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heartbreaking
03/10/2008 13:28
This is really a sad story. People like that dont deserve to have kids, i hope they rot in hell soon - the wheel turns. My heart goes out to their kids - Lord help them. - cvz |
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You're not alone
03/10/2008 13:29
Tamara, you're not alone. I experienced exactly the same run around about four years ago from the authorities in Krugersdorp. I even emailed a local radio station and I got a closed door from them as well. It was sickening listening to the child crying and begging for mercy and it was so frustrating knowing that I had done everything I could and it wasn't enough. I heard that the child's step father was shot and killed during an argument outside a pub. Guess what my reaction was. - Brian |
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Police not getting involved
03/10/2008 13:30
Police tend to refuse getting involved in domestic "quarrels" (aka violence). Why? Aren't they supposed to serve and PROTECT? - HT |
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How true
03/10/2008 13:31
As a mother of four small girls it breaks my heart to read an article like this. Abuse happens every day and it is little innocent children that suffer. - Candice |
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wow
03/10/2008 13:32
here I am strugglin for the last 8 months to conceive and still nothing, I cant believe people would abuse their kids. They should be jailed for life NXXX - desparate |
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Publish the address
03/10/2008 13:33
Then maybe we can have a little protest action and shame these terrible people. - Stryder |
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Spirit...
03/10/2008 13:33
To fight for those that cannot fight for themselves, that is noble. We must do what we can, even in the face of incompetence, and outright laziness. If you make a difference in this child's life, you will have done a great deed. - CrisisOfFaith |
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Criminal
03/10/2008 13:34
This makes me SO angry! Why do people have children when they can't or don't know how to love and care for them! And, quite evidently, the authorities just don't care! I really hope there is some intervention in this case! - RVV - Rita van Vollenstee |
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Don't Stop
03/10/2008 13:34
Dont give up please... There are not alot of ppl left in this country that still have the guts to stand up for the abused and illtreated. Having a brand new 6month old boy "with collic, reflux etc..." I cannot imangine how upset and frustrated you have to be to do something to like this to your child. My boys cries alot and doesn't sleep but when I look into his eyes I just cannot get angry with him as it is not his fault. Anyway... good going, hope you get help from the authorities. - Neil |
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What more can we do?
03/10/2008 13:35
Being a proactive person, like yourself, i've come to the following conclusion...The only thing you and i can do is VOTE for change.I'm sure there are many many similar tales.Go to your local council/ward political party representative and ask what exactly they will do, if they should win next year's election.Let them put it in writing and confront them if they don't produce!!It is a crying shame that these 'officers'[SAP etc]can't be bothered with stepping up to these incredibly abusive deeds! e - Dr.Phil |
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Tragic to the core...
03/10/2008 13:37
Unfortunately its most often those in a position to assist a child that fail to take action - like teachers, care-givers and social workers. Fear of reprisals, denial etc all plays a major part in not reporting such matters to authorities. Equally unfortunate is that this couple will continue to pro-create and abuse their off-spring. Perhaps Miranda Friedman (Woman and Men against Child Abuse)a stalwart campaigner for woman and children rights can assist. - Sheebs |
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You make me proud!
03/10/2008 13:39
we can all make a difference in this world...you helping this little boy may end up saving his life! Thank you! Don't give up or doubt yourself! Think of all the positive you are doing, have faith - help will arrive! - Kenroid |
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Can not believe
03/10/2008 13:40
Having a "hyperactive" 3 year old child, i cannot think or begin to think why a parent will want to hurt their own flesh and blood. does not matter what my child do or how hard she shouts or how many times she hurts the dog, it does not give me the right to slam her head agains the wall, shake her by holding her little arm or kicking her....it is shamefull...its sad that they do not appreciate these special "gifts" while there are people out there desperate for children..... - Sad |
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Good old south african police service
03/10/2008 13:43
Absolutely disgusting,,, - Duma |
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Disgusting
03/10/2008 13:44
And they wonder why we land up taking the law into our own hands when the law fails us everytime! Personally, I think we need to drag these "parents" into the street and shoot them.... point blank! - Point Blank |
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Name and Shame
03/10/2008 13:46
You should republish this article after adding the names of all the officials (particularly the Childline official) who were asked to do nothing more than their jobs to assist the child and all failed to perform. D.L. - Dennis Lavagna |
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License to have children
03/10/2008 13:47
It may sound cold and something out of a weird movie - but I have often thought that you should have a license to have children! Obviously there are many flaws with the idea (too many), mainly - how to stop those without a license from getting pregnant! but the idea in its simplicity would help to prevent abusive situations... - KS |
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Awful
03/10/2008 13:50
I am not sure if this would be considered advertising - You can contact "Child In Crisis" on the Westrand. Ex Captain Gert Jonker form Child Protection runs the home(s) and they will certainly step in to help you. - Annie |
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You need a liscence
03/10/2008 13:51
We need a license to own a gun, or drive a car, because it can be dangerous. So anyone can have children, abuse them, when the children grow up they become violent members of society. If only people would plan their children and take parenting classes before having kids. Fornification Under Consent of the King? - HT |
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well done lady
03/10/2008 13:52
you are doing the right thing and my hat goes off to for fighting for what you believe in and for what is, at it's core right,i hope that this turn of events does not discourage you from trying to help others - cuba |
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He fell & hit his head
03/10/2008 13:54
Tamara thanks for raising this topic. For those in a position to adopt a child, please do. And look after & care for the child as if your own. I come from an abusive home & I know I will never abuse a child. The pain I endured cannot be visited upon someone else. Adults must remember that our past does not define our future - unless we allow it to. Whereas children are the slate on which we inscribe tomorrow's adults. There's no excuse for abusing anyone - child or otherwise. - yaya |
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Violence achieves nothing
03/10/2008 13:54
but, like stryder, I think a little 'protest' action might help...Maybe a 2 pound hammer to each toe? I would gladly be the 'pick on someone your own size' candidate for the abusing parents! - KS |
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Re: 'He slipped and hit his head'
03/10/2008 13:54
I have also had similar experience with organisations who are supposed to assist children in need. I called Childline on four occassions to report and follow up on a case of child abuse and neglect...a lady from childline called the mother, she denied that the child was being abused, and that was the end of it. Since then, that 8 year old has witnessed the father committing suicide & is still being abused. Who can we trust to actually help these kids??? - Jess |
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Tamara
03/10/2008 13:54
You are a wonderful, caring person. How I wish we could have a lot more of people like you! I also find it strange that nothing much has been done for this little boy. Yet we celebrate Women and children abuse day! This I find so hard to believe, but then again this is Africa! - carol |
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To the editor only
03/10/2008 13:56
Dear Editor - would you please direct the writer
of this letter to Child in Crisis aka Bethany House in Krugersdorp.
Contact Gert or Annette Jonker - 011 660 2763
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God bless you, "Tamara"
03/10/2008 13:56
Keep the good work up Tamara. Just goes to show that everyone can make a difference, however little. Too often do we turn a blind eye to abuse happening right under our noses.Everything seems to be against you, the systems, procedures, police but, don't give up and save that child's life. You're my HERO for the day!!!! - Zin |
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Keep on Going
03/10/2008 13:59
Please don't give up that little person needs you to help. What about phoning 702... they seem to be willing and able to take anyone on. Or maybe let Carte Blanch know the details of how you cannot get any decent help from those who should be enforcing our children's rights - SKB |
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Govt departments
03/10/2008 14:00
Shocking to read, and ample proof that many in these govt departments are there not because they care or add value but simply because noone else would employ them. Too many important institutions are dumping grounds for idiots. - AJ |
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@Point Blank
03/10/2008 14:01
If you just so much as drag those parents out the street and smack them over the head you will most probably receive a harder punishment than a parent who is (for a change) punished for abusing their children. Welcome to sick reality. People who commit fraud receive longer jail sentences than those who molest/rape children. - HT |
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@Point Blank
03/10/2008 14:02
If you just so much as drag those parents out the street and smack them over the head you will most probably receive a harder punishment than a parent who is (for a change) punished for abusing their children. Welcome to sick reality. People who commit fraud receive longer jail sentences than those who molest/rape children. - HT |
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Not Surprising That This Has Happened
03/10/2008 14:02
Whilst this incident is sad, as some have stated, it is not surprising that there has been little response from the authorities. That's because there are priorities that are far more urgent, like renaming streets and place names for example. - Cynical |
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Too sad!
03/10/2008 14:05
We leave in the end times, people have lost those beautiful qualities that gives someone a dignity of being called a mother or a father, but thanks to Our Savoiur we've still got loving en caring people in this world. This is really shocking & totally not acceptable to any child!! - DN |
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This is so sick
03/10/2008 14:09
I cant believe what I am reading, there is so many adverts to report such inccidents, but just see what you as a complainant as to go through. I think that is why most of us keep quite, because at the end of the day nothing is been done. - Sinovia Scheepers |
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Sometimes you can just shake your head
03/10/2008 14:11
My wife does counseling for Life-Line. A few months ago a woman came to them complaining that her husband was abusing her. What compounded matters was that he was a police officer. Luckily they had a local police officer who was sympathetic to their problems and had helped out in situations like that before. That's when they found out it was his wife... - Anon |
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Well done
03/10/2008 14:12
As a parent I can only say well done and don't stop with what you are doing. It is really sad tha the so called police that you dealt with are so ignorant and unsympathetic to say the least. I went on there website (http://www.saps.gov.za/children/child_abuse.htm,) which seems to be only lip service. When it comes to our chilren, I say we should all follow your lead. God Bless. - Wayne |
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I've had the misfortune of experiencing this very thing in my own family.
03/10/2008 14:12
It is something that will haunt my folks and I for the rest of our lives,the fact that we didn't take action when we should have.You just don't know what to do sometimes.Do you contact the police/welfare and risk having the children removed from the parents and undergo further emotional damage,or do nothing and risk the abuse happening again? (It was his own mother) You are just in such shock as it has never happened in your family before.Please don't make the same mistake we did people.Act! - The Truth |
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Persist
03/10/2008 14:13
I totally agree with the "keep on going post". You need to just keep on pushing until this child is somewhere they can feel safe. It is distressing that the authorities let us down so badly, but it's really not the point right now, the point is a child needs your help. - kk |
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Contact your local church
03/10/2008 14:15
Another place you can contact is you local church or pastor or minister. we had tenants staying in a cottage in our back yard. the mom had a 7 month old baby and she used to abuse him. i contacted my church and they intervened. the mom to a rehab for drug & alcohol abuse and the baby is in a loving home....there is still people out there who cares... - Sad |
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3rd degree
03/10/2008 14:17
I will personally give this letter to one of my best friends working on the 3rd degree team. This is kak for a child to suffer like this. - Caylee |
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It is quite honestly the lowest form of human cowardice and savagery...
03/10/2008 14:20
to beat on or sexually assualt a child or a woman.In the case of this "well known" KZN swimming coach,if he is indeed guilty of the abuse charges against him,then it is a great pity that he failed in his first suicide attempt.He should feel free to keep trying however ("If at first you don't succeed..."). - The Truth |
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time to take action
03/10/2008 14:20
Please publish the name of your complex , we will stand outside the complex in quiet protest at the lack of action by the authorities. Those monsters will dare not abuse the child while there are people standing outside who could turn on them. They are cowards , they won't dare take on adults who can fight back. We need to name and shame abusers of women and children . Same goes for Doreen's son , he must be exposed to the world as a coward who beats up his mother and sister. - sharon |
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Parents bigger than students
03/10/2008 14:21
Parents are older and bigger than students at a pub shtat's why the police are afraid to intervene. Phone their work, their church and family if you can and let everyone know what kind of person that is. - Frank |
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Chinese Milk
03/10/2008 14:22
I think someone should give these parents some milk from China. - Jacques |
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I am serious to do that toooo
03/10/2008 14:23
Publish the address (and time) - Then maybe we can have a little protest action and shame these terrible people. - Stryder (PLEASE do it - I will be there) - Frank |
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Tamara - use crimeline
03/10/2008 14:23
Tamara, enlist the help of prime media's crime line. SMS the details to 32211 or online at https://www.crimeline.co.za/Tipoff.asp
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Terrible!!!
03/10/2008 14:25
This is horrible, especially after the goverment talks such a big game on protecting women and children from abuse! Dont give up please, and make sure you take the details of every person you deal with. I think news24 should publish their names!! - Thabo |
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Shock the cops
03/10/2008 14:28
You are by law required to press a criminal charge
Write down the neighbors reply so you can testify against them when required. Record the beatings if you can. When the next one happens - 1. call the police - say there is a attack in progress, there may be a firearm involved and see how fast they come! 2. CAll paramedics who will get the cops if you cant Dont mention family dispute on the phone! - GT |
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Victoria Climbie
03/10/2008 14:30
Unfortuantely it's not just in South Africa that this lack of care happens. Check out the story of Victoria Climbie on Wikapedia. She had to die before anything was done. Luckily the investigation after led to changes in the social services system in the UK. People who abuse children should be put through exactly the same level of fear and abuse that they put the child through. Keep trying to get help eventually someone will have to listen, lets hope not when it's too late - SM |
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Child abusers
03/10/2008 14:30
Where do these animals live.
We should all go personally and remove the child, and have one huge protest until the cops come. Surely there is a family member who could step into this situation. - Tracey |
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you are a brave woman
03/10/2008 14:31
Our country needs woman like you. A woman who can stands for what they bealive for. May God keep you for a longtime and give you the desires of your heart. - angelina rabelani |
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The more things change the more they stay the same...
03/10/2008 14:37
There are no words for scum that beat kids. They do not deserve words. Good luck with yr plight! - MP3 |
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To all the guys commenting...
03/10/2008 14:43
...now remember how p'd off you are at the injustice next time you go off about women being bad drivers, no sense for direction, should not follow a career, etc etc... You start by degrading women with comments like these, and it progresses and next time you smack the woman.. Abuse is very insiduous, guys. Watch yourselves! - HT |
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Tamara ????
03/10/2008 14:44
Get you husband or friends to go over there and teach that "DAD & MOM" a damn good lesson. That poor kid, some people should never have kids. This break a humans heart. "PLEASE HELP THOSE CHILDREN" !!!! - Badger |
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Awful
03/10/2008 14:47
This article made me cry...may I recommend that you try going directly to the Child Protection Unit of your region, they are generally very good. Good luck in your plight - CMP |
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So very sad
03/10/2008 14:51
Tamara you are a noble person. Like so many others have suggested, name and shame - those at the various institutions that would not help, and the names and address of the abusers. Maybe then something will happen. - AS |
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poor poor child, how can ppl do things like this
03/10/2008 14:52
to children and those who are in the position to help like police/social workers etc sit by and wait for tragedy to happen when they could have prevented this in the first place. I pray for that child I also pray for you and your husband's courage and strength to continue helping this poor child,it's so heart breaking that ppl can do things like this. - Vicky |
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Where are the big mouths?
03/10/2008 14:53
Where are all the big mouths usually posting nasty comments? Just goes to show what really matters to them... F-all! "Make SA beter - but oh we don't want to get involved. I cried reading this and it is shocking that while this is happening, everyone else is worried about politics & how much he can screw the next person for. - Lee |
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lets protest
03/10/2008 14:53
Yeah give the complex name....i will personally go beat the mom and dad silly.....o excuse, i mean the animals....they don't deserve to be called a mom or a dad....but God does not sleep....and the wheel is slowly turning... - Sad |
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03/10/2008 14:54
Shoe, I'm speechless!!!!
Thank you anyway for trying - TB |
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To my eldest nephew...
03/10/2008 15:02
I am so very sorry that none of us,your own family,protected you the night you were beaten black and blue.Even though you have since grown into a strapping,intelligent young teenager (who will in a few years time receive his first black belt in Japan,and kick his mother's arse if she ever tries to lay a finger on him again!),it does not change or remove what happened all those years ago.We are truly sorry,and hopefully we will all have the gonads one day to tell it to you face to face my boy. - The Truth |
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He slipped and hit his head
03/10/2008 15:10
I truly admire what you and your husband tried to do...........I agree with 'lets protest' but with the Carte Blanche crew following behind with cameras rolling. - Dawn Gill |
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@Truth
03/10/2008 15:11
Tell your nephew one person says I'm very proud and impress that he made something out of his life after what he went through. He is a hero. If you want to repent, can I suggest you contact child services and ask if there are parents who abuse their kids that you can tell your story to? There are abused kids in childrens homes across this country. Take one of them for a movie and milkshake. Show them its not all bad out there. - HT |
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why why why
03/10/2008 15:15
Why do people like this have kids, I cannot understand for the life of me how people can hurt children, the sa police were prob at wimpy - graham |
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@DOREEN
03/10/2008 15:16
Get yourself and your daughter away from this boy as quickly and as far as possible! Go and stay with a relative or at a hotel if you have to,but get away somewhere before he murders you. - The Truth |
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@HT
03/10/2008 15:17
"Abuse is very insiduous, guys. Watch yourselves!" thank you very much for the gender bashing. - MP3 |
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@ Cynical
03/10/2008 15:21
Of course the authorities cannot act on the basis of a neighbour's complaint alone.A vindictive neighbour could easily cause trouble if that was the case. There's no excuse for the lousy police "service", though. - VG |
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Tamara
03/10/2008 15:22
Did you take pics of the blood spattered walls? maybe that would jolt the police/childline into action - VG |
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Child abuse & SAPS
03/10/2008 15:23
Had a similiar experience next door, police came but parent refused them to see child and THEY LEFT IT THERE. Was forced to walk over myself and klapped the f..ker good and told him to call the police, he never did but the kak stopped that day. - ChrisR |
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Non-reaction to just one more case
03/10/2008 15:24
Approx 2 months ago I was driving home on N1 south when I saw a stationary vehicle. Next to the vehicle 4 or 5 men were holding someone at gun point and shoving the person. I didnt stop to help, I am a woman driving alone at night. So I phoned an emergency number, got through by the 5th attempt, the operator told me they will tell vehicles in the area (which she quoted incorrectly) to be on the look ou for MY vehicle. Did she even listen to the info I gave?! Our police are de-sensitised. - HT |
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10111
03/10/2008 15:27
Thank you for trying to help this child. Next time do as my friend did, he told 10111 (when he eventually got through) that he had shot a man breaking into his vehicle - they were there in just short of 10 mins. YaYa if I could I would adopt as many as possible unfortunately with the financial constraits that we have to suffer now not many ppl can - even that's a problem in this country by the way - Copper |
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the day will come
03/10/2008 15:29
when this boy can fend for himself and kill his parents.... he will go to jail thats our system..... Armaggedon is coming - Hootie |
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Truth ???
03/10/2008 15:30
Why did you not protect that child ??? Should I ever see a child "ANY CHILD" being abused, "I WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR MY ACTIONS" I don't care who the parents are !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Badger |
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@Tamara
03/10/2008 15:31
Please call Radio 702 (or Cape Talk, if you're in the Cape) - this is exactly the kind of thing they investigate and take further. The bad publicity will ensure that the principals of the relevant bodies / state organs get involved, and the culprits (who failed to act) are officially investigated. Congratulations on doing the right thing in the first place! - Zumaki (with respect to Lood and Beeld) |
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Disgusted
03/10/2008 15:32
I have to commend Tamara and her husband for taking a stand against child abuse. It is so sad that the very people that should be doing all to protect this child are causing him so much hurt. They belong in jail but what is even worse is the do not care attitude of the very authorities that should be doing all possible to help this child. We need to take a stand against abuse of any kind. Thank you again Tamara...you will be blessed.Michelle - Michelle |
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child abuse
03/10/2008 15:35
Thank you Tamara and your husband for your great deed, they are cowards who have the audesity of raising a hand to an helpless child who needs nothing but the protection of his own parents - they are sick!!! - lapiz |
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Being there for no good - Those are our officials.
03/10/2008 15:38
It is so sad to discover that the poor neighbours went through all the trouble to report this midemeanou, but our police and child care people did nothing about it. It is so pathetic. - Makola |
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Being there for no good - Those are our officials.
03/10/2008 15:41
It is so sad to discover that the poor neighbours went through all the trouble to report this misdemeanour, but our police and child care people did nothing about it. It is so pathetic. - Makola |
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Child Abuse
03/10/2008 15:42
As I am writing this, tears are flowing down my face. How is this possible? Why do social workers not care? - Marx |
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Being there for no good - Those are our officials.
03/10/2008 15:42
It is so sad to discover that the poor neighbours went through all the trouble to report this misdemeanour, but our police and child care people did nothing about it. It is so pathetic. - Makola |
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@MP3
03/10/2008 15:44
Not all men are abusers, MP3. But people don't come with labels printed on their foreheads warning that they are abusers. And all abusers start somewhere. If you are not guilty of such things, good for you. But then, as I said, watch yourself to not become guilty. Abused women "tolerate" abuse because they are made to believe they deserve nothing more. Where do you draw the line? Verbal abuse? Physical abuse? - HT |
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@Badger
03/10/2008 15:44
We have asked ourselves that question more times than you will ever know.Perhaps you may one day find yourself in the same situation (I pray you don't) and take action as we all should have.It will be entirely up to the boy if he wants to ever forgive us,and quite frankly if I was him I wouldn't. - The Truth |
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Some hope
03/10/2008 15:47
There are good people in SAPS and Childline too. Earlier this year on a Sunday evening a family member (drug addict) abused her children in full view of my own, so much so that we had to go to the SAPS in Athlone. The officer there immediately called a social worker. She came out (11pm) and went to the abusive woman's house. The children are no longer in her care but they often see her and are much happier. - Jimmy |
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Publish their names
03/10/2008 15:51
Tamara, publish their names in the local newspaper - tell any friends that they might have (if any), tell the neighbours and anyone in the area, tell the childrens teachers, their employers! take pictures of the children and put them up - it will shock the community into action! then you will have more people and a louder voice!!!! - KS |
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And it lingers with one,Badger.
03/10/2008 15:52
Every time (and it happens all the time!) you hear or see a child crying in a shopping centre,and his "mother" responding by slapping him through the face,in front of the whole shop! What the hell do you do when you see that? Do you interfere? Are you permitted to interfere in parents merely "disciplining" their children? - The Truth |
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Abuse
03/10/2008 15:52
My grandmother used to beat us senseless. she once tied my sisters hands and feet with rope and shambokked her until she bled. My cousin was tied up butt naked to a tree, a fire lit under her feet and beaten to within an inch of her life. the whole family knew but no-one said a word - Zin |
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Badger anger and violence is a part of the problem
03/10/2008 15:53
What made you think that authorities give a damn? They don't.They are too busy passing stupid laws and tending to issues that blow smoke up your posteriors, hoping that it actually looks like they a) know what they are doing and b)that they are doing it. Manto perfected this strategy and many emulate her, from the top right down to the bottom, and if anyone dares to actually do something, they are regarded as enemy and booted. Whether it be top halls of government or the basement broom closet. - eden |
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Re: VG
03/10/2008 15:57
"Of course the authorities cannot act on the basis of a neighbour's complaint alone.A vindictive neighbour could easily cause trouble if that was the case". I agree. But it seems as if the authorities were inefficient and hardly acted at all in this instance. Ah well, just part of the "better life for all", hey! - Cynical |
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@Tamara
03/10/2008 15:57
Are they his real parents..?If they are then they must be on some drugs or under some |
