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'All equal before the law'

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2008-10-06 13:42

Dear Editor

Let me start by complimenting Mosiuoa Lekota for taking the bold step of letting out the badly kept secret that there is bad blood within the ANC camps of Jacob Zuma and Thabo Mbeki. It must have taken a toll on him as a loyal member of the ANC to take this route.

The irony is the venomous way Jeff Radebe has come out in defence of the current ANC! It reminded me of a "woman scorned". I am of the view that there was nothing to be defensive about, Mr Radebe. There was no need to character assassinate Mr Lekota for complaining publicly about the goings on within the ruling party.

Mr Radebe, South Africans saw the hooliganism in Polokwane, in the ANCYL conference and the "kill for Zuma" statements and there is no point in defending them now.

In the same breath, let me congratulate Mr Radebe for telling South Africans of how Mr Lekota et al treated Nelson Mandela. What took you so long Mr Radebe? Were you waiting for this opportunity to give the "brotherly advice" to Mr Lekota to go and apologise to Mr Mandela?

I guess your advice is belated, considering this "ill-treatment" happened five years ago and you did nothing about it until now. If this is how "comrades" treat each other, I shudder to think how they treat their enemies.

Which then explains the manner in which Mr Mbeki has been treated by ANC in KZN, in Polokwane and recently the ANC NEC without any condemnation from the self-righteous Mr Radebe.

Tell us Mr Radebe, is it civil of the ANC members to carry "criminals" shoulder-high to the gates of prisons? Is it civil and proper to be "expected" of ANC members to show up at courts for your "dancing" president?

What "political solution" does the ANC have for Mr Zuma? Please tell the citizens of this country. All shall be equal before the law!

Thobile Ndungane
Cape Town

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AJ 10/6/2008 1:56:06 PM
That's a good one!
ShRoOm 10/6/2008 1:57:51 PM
With racist policies like BEE and AA in place we certainly are not all equal. With politicians driving around in luxury vehicles while the poor are left suffering in townships, all are not equal. While the ANC shows intolerance to anybody or any organisation that speaks out against them or disagrees with their views, all are NOT equal! It is not against the law to disagree, but if it were up to the ANC alone - I am sure they will make it so...
ML 10/6/2008 1:57:53 PM
Who carried Tony Yengeni shoulder high?Was it Mr Zuma or ANC members?Why are you not talking about Mr Selebi who is being protected by Mr Mbeki?Are you anyway an ANC member by any chance?ANC usually deal with problems internally FYI.
HT 10/6/2008 1:58:35 PM
When he became minister of defence he launched a few investigations to get rid of corrupt high ranks in the defense force. I would however like to know what Radebe was refering to when he said Lekota was disrespectful towards Madiba? Anyone have some facts?
Nicole 10/6/2008 1:58:55 PM
You have summarized all that I have been thinking since this ANC soap opera started their performance. I am tired of big mouthed nobody's tearing apart anyone that dares to make a bit of sense!!!
Thomas1 10/6/2008 1:59:08 PM
Thobile: Please try and get your facts right before writing.
Zolile 10/6/2008 2:00:24 PM
Mr Radebe did not in any way try to answer Lekota's concerns. Instead he castigated him. That is typical of the new ANC leadership, they would rather pass the blame and find fault with those who stand up to them. A civil way would have been to summon Lekota to the Luthuli house. So much about healing the cracking organisation
Cheri 10/6/2008 2:02:14 PM
I fully agree with your comments - very well written letter.
Fluffy27 10/6/2008 2:03:05 PM
Same old argument, Different day.
hopeful? 10/6/2008 2:04:27 PM
Yes Mr Radebe, PLEASE tell us, what political solution does the ANC have for JZ? well done thobile! ur my man
concern south african 10/6/2008 2:04:38 PM
This gentleman is emtionally disturbbed by the fact that some people he expected to win an election did not win. There seems to be a cry about polokwane, i guess in polokwane a person with more votes won the race then it seems like other people cannot swallow the pill. if we a claiming to be democratic organisation then why not accept the result attained through the democratic process. mr ndungane was it civil for the chairperson of the ANC to condemn his deputy president in public because he sings a particular song which he and not the anc does no like. this surely posed a big question on the leadership style of the then ANC. Now I say lekota and co must eat the fruits of their recklessly created situation. Was Mr Mbeki acting in a civil manner when he pushed Winnie on the stage? there is always another side of the coin
Thabo 10/6/2008 2:05:21 PM
I will not vote for the ANC as they have disappointed me and are running this country into the ground with greed. Thabo
L van Heerden 10/6/2008 2:05:45 PM
A very well written letter and agree with much of its contents. The Zuma/Malema/Vavi camp has a lot of explaining to do.
vts 10/6/2008 2:07:02 PM
ur right thobile,actually this is ANC is nothing but a bunch of thugs who are interested in promoting they personal need rether than serving this country,every they touch turn to unproductive.
Paul aka communist Montele 10/6/2008 2:08:19 PM
lest we forget Lekota was a chief campainger for Mbeki and that they lost and his president was recalled instead of accepting defeat and conducting himself like a sober elder he is bitter, he is the last person i would listen to, at some point he was calling some of leaders by names, whether the current leadership is incapable or not Lekota is a lunatic who was rightly called to order in Polokwane, he must form his own party with his cronnies we will meet at the polls, ask Holomisa and PAC.
Terence 10/6/2008 2:08:56 PM
i'd like to know what sort of democracy we are running in SA it is surely a spaza shop democracy. Since when can someone who believes inthe anc not criticize his/her own party. It seems whenever the anc is criticized they ban their members and tell them they can go elsewhere what kind of party is this not a democratic one for sure. the anc is a joke finished en klaar................hahahahaha anc idiots
shakes 10/6/2008 2:10:04 PM
All shall NOT be equal before the law. Do you remember how the payer of a bribe got jailed while the receiver of the bribe got elected to high office? Do you remember the Travelgate MP's? The ertswhile deputy Speaker who bought a drivers licence?
Philani 10/6/2008 2:10:29 PM
that, Mbeki wanted to trun the ANC into Mbeki Dynasty, and all his sycophants like Lekota lied to him, that the coast was clear. That is why everytime the ANC reminds Mbeki, that he is not bigger than the ANC, the media, runs to ask, his mum how she feels about her son's treatment, and the brother goes to the media. By the way Mbeki is where he is because of the media, and people like you Thobile. All equal before the law, but remember blood is thicker than water.
Jabu Pule 10/6/2008 2:10:53 PM
Lekota forgets that in his position as ANC Chairman last year he called Zuma who was then a Deputy President of the country a "crazy man". Last year again Mbeki also went on record in Western Cape ANC gathering to say that people must not vote rapist and criminals in Polokwane. Lekota also complained about ANC values when he failed to restore those values by sending a letter via a newpaper... What the hell? They must form their party and leave us alone, MBEKI and his puppets. Who is crazy now?r
Poitn Blank 10/6/2008 2:13:33 PM
Enough of this childish tribal fighting amongst the people who are supposed to be making a better life for all of us! We have wasted our time with them as they waste our rights right now. Soon it will be Zuma out and another round of infighting resulting in ordinary South Africans bearing the brunt of the greedy power mongers within the ANC, this is beyond disgusting, it's bitterly disappointing to watch South Africa fall.
Mathibela 10/6/2008 2:14:57 PM
As it is always the case with desktop poloticians they open their mouth withouth comprehending the policies,guidelines or prescripts that governs ANC members. Your comments indicates how shallow minded you are relative to the ANC policies. I wont dwell much on your comments,bt refer you to ANC.org abt the processes that individual members can do if they feel aggrieved by the GREAT ORG.As for Lekota,he used to be a great comrade bt now he is Thibos's lapdog.
Bemused 10/6/2008 2:16:09 PM
I am saddened by all this going on but, I guess we'll just have to live with it as the ANC is in the majority. I suppose under this "new democracy" some will just be more equal than others. And no doubt, Mr Radebe will remind us in due course if we forget. Ah well....
Point Blank 10/6/2008 2:16:22 PM
What are the facts Thomas? Please enlighten us as to why you think Thobile has it wrong. Do you have the facts yourself? Then please show us.
Libembe 10/6/2008 2:16:40 PM
You're not likely to get any decent answer, you see, we are dealing with a bankrupt ANC here that took over in Polokwane. The infighting that's happening as they ascend to public office to line-up their pockets, is all driven by greed and corrupt intentions. I'm waiting for the formation of this new party, the party that will restore the soul of the ANC. We need to reclaim our ANC and our freedom charter.
Terence 10/6/2008 2:17:07 PM
i'd like to know what sort of democracy we are running in SA it is surely a spaza shop democracy. Since when can someone who believes inthe anc not criticize his/her own party. It seems whenever the anc is criticized they ban their members and tell them they can go elsewhere what kind of party is this not a democratic one for sure. the anc is a joke finished en klaar................hahahahaha anc idiots
Neuk 10/6/2008 2:18:42 PM
Not much else to say, criticesed both parties for their wrongdoings and asked for what the public quite rightly deserves, a full explanation from the ANC...
Africant 10/6/2008 2:20:48 PM
There is no need to congratulate anyone here. Politics is by volunteering one's service and if you can't fit any more pack your bags and leave peacefully.Freedom Charter has nothing to do with most of these politicians' interests. Even the morally straight Lekota at some point failed to declare to parliament his interests in a fuel delivery company . Where was the Freedom Charter then? Politicians kiss babies when cornered. It makes sense for Lekota to leave based on events of Polokwane run-up.
Jay 10/6/2008 2:22:54 PM
The problem in the ANC is that they consider themselves above everyone else. From the womans league to the youth league right to the NEC. The poor got poorer whilst a select few ANC members got richer through self help schemes. The ANC truly LOST their moral high ground - they should go back to basics and learn that the people who voted them in will be the same people to vote them out!
Hero Nakamura 10/6/2008 2:26:43 PM
Except JZ and his bunch of Hooligans the NEC. Yengeni is back at it again, this time drunk driving. I wonder what political solution the will have for him.
Philani 10/6/2008 2:28:58 PM
fail them at the end. Zuma did not have a mother to cry on when he was fired, and Thobile, you did not write this article when Zuma was fired and we all shared the view that it was good for fighting corruption. It turns out to be Mbeki, making Zuma a scape goat, for he knows better about arms deal. Where is the commission of enquiery to the arms deal. Why were German investagations to arms deal killed, why his memory lapses on his meeting with Thyssen Krupt who were more expensive.
Filemon 10/6/2008 2:29:23 PM
Too true. Forked tongue radebe criticises terror for his open letter to the anc meanwhile the anc have been openly degrading each other in public. And they do this at a time of global turmoil which will not help the rand or investment in SA which will in turn hurt the anc supporters (and other poor)even more. Get rid of these live snakes
Fred 10/6/2008 2:29:47 PM
Your statement is to vague, you tell the writer to get his fact right, please point out the incorrects facts and enlighten us with your knowledge as to the real facts, or are you just shooting your mouth of in defence of the ANC NEC and following there lead by attacking when unable to defend fair comment.
Bradley 10/6/2008 2:30:15 PM
Why should we have comedians. Most politicians write the scripts and make us laugh in anycase. They make the world laugh too. If I was a comedian I would resign and become a politician. It's much more funny and you get a shit load of cash too!!! News should be the LOL show!!!
anti goverment 10/6/2008 2:32:14 PM
what is that "all equal before the law" what a joke! equal is a meaning not even in play in most houses in SA now how the hell is equal possible from a government perspective? what the hell SA is going down!! thanks to the equallity of the so called democratic government. My opinion on this "get some education and start learning the needs of the real people out there" Oh and most of all "develope a heart in the cavity you call a chest" but history has proven an outcome for this situation
charllie 10/6/2008 2:32:33 PM
This just confirmed it again nothing new
Fred 10/6/2008 2:32:48 PM
It seems that the ANC's best defence is attack ! No positives come from anything these trough feeding ANC pigs say anymore. Why anyone would vote for them next year (especially the current bunch) is beyond any comprehension. Maybe Zuma won't be prez next year and I think there is major panic within. Bring on the splinter group !
Thobile Ndungane 10/6/2008 2:32:54 PM
ML, FYI the ANC is not in majority because of is good 690K membership but by beleivers in it's policies. I would never be a member of ANC diluted by power intoxicated SACP/COSATU! Whether I am a card carrying member is not the point!
Lee 10/6/2008 2:32:57 PM
Should there be a "new party" (which in my opinion will be the "old ANC") people cant compare it with the PAC or UDM, as much more people within the ANC are unhappy. Calling it a "splinter" is naive. In my opinion the ANC might SPLIT - 40/60..
Masese 10/6/2008 2:34:26 PM
When did Lekota realise that ANC is loosing tack of its policies? After defeated? Being a chair man for 10 years, why not uprooting this nonsense? I was not aware that Lekota knows Freedom Charter, something he never mentioned in the past 10 year. Radebe, do you really need my vote when you protect this bunch of holigans like Mbalulas, Malema, Vavis, Blade, who tell people that if NPA exercise its right by taking the Kangaman to court, they will cause anarchy? Please come back to you senses?
witseun 10/6/2008 2:40:02 PM
All the blood that has been spilled in the name of our democracy and freedom, all the pain and heartache that went along with it, all the aspirations for a better and prosperous crime-free SA where everyone should adhere to the constitution and the rule of law, all of that is now lying in the hands of these uneducated hooligans and thugs that threaten to "kill" us if we do not approve of their leader? After all we have been through as a nation, we deserve better than this.
Sinudeity@Gmail.com 10/6/2008 2:40:04 PM
You have Fedentia Brown in Prison for Corruption, but countless ANC mp's STILL working in government for the Travelgate millions. Mr Shaiks in Prison for Zuma's corruption. WHY is the ANC above the law? The Scorpions was CLOSED DOWN, because of Travelgate ANC members. Remember how they cheered in Parlaiment? THAT was the day I knew we had a CRIMINAL government running the country. Can I make a citizens arrest?
Jabu Pule 10/6/2008 2:40:16 PM
Mbeki told Mandela in NEC meeting to keep quiet when Lekota was still a Chairman of the ANC. Mbeki "the Thug" violently manhandled a female Winnie Mandela in public. Mbeki "the Thug" violated the constitution by ordering his puppets to charge Zuma. Mbeki "the Thug" ordered his friends like puppets not to prosecute Jackie Selebi. Mbeki "the Thug like Gangster" asked his puppets like friends to follow his so that they can stay in power and rule SA again.. Who is Power Hungry here Thobile I ask?
Badger 10/6/2008 2:42:15 PM
Mbeki's Bodyguard taken out ????? tooooooo many questions and not enough answers. They are in it to line those empty pockets... "Somebody HELP US, PLEASE !!!!!"
Jay 10/6/2008 2:47:14 PM
The problem in the ANC is that they consider themselves above everyone else. From the womans league to the youth league right to the NEC. The poor got poorer whilst a select few ANC members got richer through self help schemes. The ANC truly LOST their moral high ground - they should go back to basics and learn that the people who voted them in will be the same people to vote them out!
Blitzi 10/6/2008 2:47:17 PM
as long as we have leaders that are focussed on themselves. They could give a sh%t what happens to the public and what the public needs are. My vote is to get rid of them... South Africa is in need of leaders, not mickey mouse puppets...
ims 10/6/2008 2:47:45 PM
give us the facts....... bottom line "All shall be equal before the law" - yeah right!! If only
Jay 10/6/2008 2:48:28 PM
The problem in the ANC is that they consider themselves above everyone else. From the womans league to the youth league right to the NEC. The poor got poorer whilst a select few ANC members got richer through self help schemes. The ANC truly LOST their moral high ground - they should go back to basics and learn that the people who voted them in will be the same people to vote them out!
Paul aka communist Montele 10/6/2008 2:49:03 PM
Mbeki and his cronnies riducled Madiba when Madiba was telling them that their stance on HIV/Aids is wrong cause people were dying,Mbeki and his boys told Madiba that he is a former President and he should shut up, that's why Tata has been so quite, he was adviced that he should not let himself to be disrespected by TM and his cronnies and that's what he's done since then, comrades on this block even those who don't like JZ it is about time you realise that Mbeki is a intellectual dictator.
Ethan 10/6/2008 2:49:41 PM
I like him, He is not afraid to tell the truth. He was the first one to critisise Zuma in public about his stupid song.
HT 10/6/2008 2:50:07 PM
I'm wondering if ANC's woes werent maybe caused by COSATU and SACP? Seemed to me that it is their meddeling and demands that caused the issues in the party. They might even have done so to damage the party so that they can take over. A bit far-fetched?
Lee 10/6/2008 2:50:39 PM
and they realise that now. ZM should hv stepped out of the picture long time ago, then things would not hv gone this far. The only way the ANC will be fixed is if Zuma left, if not the old faithfuls of the ANC should/will start their own party. The Spr(l)inters - LOL!
Mark T 10/6/2008 2:51:26 PM
I think the leaders need to sit back and think a bit about what they were fighting for. Was it for democracy and for the lives of millions of south Africans and to make South Africa a great place for ALL of it's people, or were they fighting to place themselves in power to get rich and powerful at South Africa's expense. IT is time to listen to what the people want an realise you are only human too.
Cape Town Kid 10/6/2008 2:56:51 PM
This campaign against the ANC did not start with the recall of THABO.This campaign started off since Polokwane.There r many instances of Asmal calling for a seperate forum afta Polokwane.This plan was hashed and discussed between these individuals.Their issues are not abt democracy but abt patronage and favor.They are members of a member and therein lies their conflict of interest.As an ordinary member, I say begone with you.Yr lies and untruths will catch up with yr indiscipline!
Mathibela 10/6/2008 2:58:43 PM
Lekota is trying to circumvent ANC processes by complaining in the public domain.ANC like any family has its traditions,customs and guidelines.Its his right to complain bt that does not mean he is right. I still rank the OLD Lekota as one of our great Leaders bt after being tamed by TM he is just a loose canon.Lekota can always go to his contituency to complain and if his argument is relevant it will need to follow the right procedures.
tshepo 10/6/2008 2:59:55 PM
Mr Lekota was coorrect in his observation of the current ANC.
Mina 10/6/2008 3:01:37 PM
How do I accept Polokwane's decision when they made someone who has only standard 3 a president. Someone who sleeps aroud with HIV person without a condom and then take a shower. Sing horrible songs. Come on
Sven Gohre 10/6/2008 3:04:20 PM
ia myth created during the French Revolution and we saw there how equal the population was. The only thing going for it was the fact that the common people, who were illiterate, very much as the majority of people in Africa, swollowed the myth believing if they lopped the heads of the aristocracy they would share in the countries wealth. History proved them wrong.
hc 10/6/2008 3:05:16 PM
Not easy to face the truth. It is all about morals!!! viva to the educated.
ML 4 Thobile 10/6/2008 3:07:25 PM
making comments of which you know nothing about,ANC has structures to air grievances and that is not the media or public opinions but assigned personnel,one question for u,has the policy document changed under Zuma or is it still the same?I'm sure you benefitted from BEE deals.
kgauzen 10/6/2008 3:08:29 PM
Lekota and his people are bad loosers.They want to be leaders for life.They dont own ANC.They must continue to start their own party Middle Class Party(MCP).ANC must focus on election and leave this people.DA must start campaigning hard focus on their policies so that this power mongers should not be given a chance.Like Holomisa their party will remain unrecognised.They failed the nation while they still had power,smuts once sad it that he cant be strugle to be poor.they never cared about us.
Themba 10/6/2008 3:09:54 PM
How can they critisize the arch bishop for his personal views? Tutu was raising his own view as per the freedom of expression, and it seems the new ANC don't even want people to express their views let alone critisize it. Tutu is right by saying that Zuma should not stand for office with this corruption cloud hanging on his head. Lastly they even challenge an open letter debate. Mhm ANC is turning into an anarchy, and only us voters can stop that. Amandla
j 10/6/2008 3:10:49 PM
TIME TO VOTE FOR FAIR REPRESENTATION. If you not happy with the party in charge vote them out when they are good vote them in. We should not be loyal to one party for the past victories but for their abilities in the future. The freedom front plus, UDM, ACDP have had no scandals, corruption charged lead against them, why won't you vote them. What you got to lose. The freedom of theis country should not be dictated by one party but be protected by all of us. Don't vote for undeserving candidates.
Sunjeev 10/6/2008 3:12:41 PM
Good letter, but lets be honest here. You can't have one foot on one side of the fence, and another foot on the other side of the fence. The ANC needs to decide whether they stand for the righteous of the country and make policies that are uplifting and bring unity into the country, between ALL people not just ANC people. Or suffer the consequences off been the single biggest reason for the destruction of a country so beautifully rich in culture, people and resources. Making policies that have self (ANC) in mind will not bring this country forward. If we look at the fact, recently South Africa has become a net importer of agricultural products. We have lots so much money/wealth in this country just from the ANC:black mentality. We have lots 80% of our cattle production, due to land claims..... soon South Africans will be starving..... make no mistake. I?m not even going to mention the Engineering crisis from BEE, nor how many people have been killed by aids, by following evil leaders like Zuma..... ... the ANC needs to choose and quick
VG 10/6/2008 3:14:10 PM
that now that Mbeki's gone, he and his "faction" are being portrayed as the last few good men standing between us and anarchy(Zuma)If you believe this, then you're truly delusional. As Masese says, why is Lekota having an attack of "conscience" now? and why is he telling his story to the media? The term sour grapes comes to mind
Azania 10/6/2008 3:14:13 PM
Eish!!! politics can make people think like stupids, it divides people and it indocrinates them. But I think that Lekota is a very carless and confused old man who is like the young Julius Malema. At least troublesome Julius Malema might change with age. It scarry to think that Thabo Mbeki surrounded hiself with the likes of Lekota
VG 10/6/2008 3:15:00 PM
that now that Mbeki's gone, he and his "faction" are being portrayed as the last few good men standing between us and anarchy(Zuma)If you believe this, then you're truly delusional. As Masese says, why is Lekota having an attack of "conscience" now? and why is he telling his story to the media? The term sour grapes comes to mind
Gordon 10/6/2008 3:16:40 PM
We are tied of people like Mr Lekota who pretend to be demacrats while they are not. A democrat according to my understanding should be a person that accepts a decision supported by the mojority. He must be a disciplined person as well. Terror hasn't got any of the mentioned attributes. HIS UTTERANCES prior to Polokwane brought shame to us sympathisers of the ANC. He is not the same Terror that we used to know and envy during the UDF days, the man is desparate and has got used to power.
VG 10/6/2008 3:17:09 PM
that now that Mbeki's gone, he and his "faction" are being portrayed as the last few good men standing between us and anarchy(Zuma)If you believe this, then you're truly delusional. As Masese says, why is Lekota having an attack of "conscience" now? and why is he so keen to tell his story to the media? The term sour grapes comes to mind
j 10/6/2008 3:18:50 PM
Why don't we give the small parties who obviously have passion to stick their names amonst the DA and ANC on the day. They may just be an inspiration to the country looking for new direction brighter democracy and take some thunder away from the top parties. We never look at the parties on the side lines never let them have a say. Maybe more parties should run at local elections and try build support in the wards..
MK 10/6/2008 3:19:12 PM
...BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS! Who knows what is REALLY happening? Let me guess...not 1 single person commenting here! All we can do is look at the country and how it is being run people...by greedy, thieving money-grabbers who ONLY care for themselves!Say NO to corruption! Say NO to crime! Say NO to the ANC! Their time is up!
ShRoOm 10/6/2008 3:20:22 PM
Yet another 'throwaway' comment from the Cape Town Kid...
Lee 10/6/2008 3:21:20 PM
Ag pleeasse!! "violently manhandled a female Winnie Mandela in public" In public being the operative words. We all saw it. It was FAR from violent, although she deserved the shrug off for being sooolate. By the by - WM also got away with murder, literally!!
Tevin C 10/6/2008 3:22:28 PM
Terror is made to eat humble pie after unsuccessfully trying to cling to power with his cronies. Lekota and his cronies divided the ANC by undermining ANC protocol. Now he feels that decisions made by the NEC are flawed because he is left in the cold. He is now using petty issues to score political points. The NEC is a decision making body of the ANC and Lekota cannot dictate the outcome of any debate and decisions made by this body. Let us not forget that he is not part of the NEC. He stupidly feels that none of the decisions are democratic be cause they are not favourable to him. It is really a last kick of a dying horse.
respect 10/6/2008 3:22:56 PM
how I wish the Mbeki camp can have the power and wisdom and form a new party and they will be shocked as abantu will vote for them...they are tired of listening to those hooligans zika Zuma no Mantashe. as for Jeff the last time I checked he was this irresponsible man who couldnt even pay mantaiance for his kids and remember he is in the gravy train himself...corrupt. we will vote for the new party, we are waiting. nothing will convience us about Zuma as he is just a 'case"
Fred 10/6/2008 3:25:08 PM
We are still waiting for you to enlighten us with the facts or are you just making a noise, like all empty vesels do or as i suspect you don't know the so called facts and now that you have been called out you have no answer.
George Orwell 10/6/2008 3:26:38 PM
And the prophetic words of George Orwell could never be more true! Do me a favour all you ANC stalwarts out there...go and read Animal Farm and you will see how this 'unique situation' in SA is not unique at all, but a downward spiral ending a cesspit of filthy greed and corruption. YES,apartheid was WRONG but the biggest injustice is that our lame duck govt. has NOT learnt from previous mistakes like apartheid, instead us SA's will have to endure the ANC's stupidity for decades to come!
Francois 10/6/2008 3:26:43 PM
"why is Lekota having an attack of "conscience" now?" IF he did not who would have???
j 10/6/2008 3:28:13 PM
No communication and no education allows for easy targets during election. The rural are still struggling with poor water, No electricity, No toilets, Telephone, basic educations is 100km away and no hospital systems for the sick. However its the same people that vote for the ANC who you'd think would have had more passion for the rural considering its the traditional lands. If you in the rural and want services ask another party, Elections aren't about pride its about needs and rights.
John 10/6/2008 3:28:40 PM
If there is going to be a new party then ANC deadwood can have nothing to do with it. The resignations are all people that have stuffed up their portfolios and changes to the new cabinet look to be positive. The biggest threat to SA is Zuma. He is an incredibly stupid man. Cognizance of this is the incredibly stupid things he has done with no thought to the possible circumstances. With the likes of Motlanthe, Sexwale & Ramaposa all extremely capable men why would one even consider JZ to lead the country. I cant even think of a portfolio he is qualified to run. All parties need to unite and form one strong opposition party made up of strong talented individuals.
John Camp 10/6/2008 3:29:15 PM
I commend you, this is one of the best articles i've read in recent weeks. I will now read the comments and hope they give credit where it is due. Well done and very true.
Cooler box 10/6/2008 3:30:49 PM
This article is probably the work of a 13 years old child who knows nothing about the ANC. The child probably reads articles from community newspapers and gathers his facts from there. Sooner he shall be well equipped and hopefully writes nice poems and articles for pre-school children.
fearful 10/6/2008 3:31:15 PM
Well Mbeki is no longer in charge so those that say he is protecting Selebi, can they not ask why is it taking so long for the ANC to act on him as they did Mbeki. Or is there a bigger plan here that will take us by surprise one Saturday afternoon. Why is the clean up campaign targeted at a few people. Perhaps the ANC is protecting Selebi because he may have dirt on them. My conspiracy theory for the year, Selebi know to much to be exposed by the ANC lefties.
Don 10/6/2008 3:32:00 PM
I as a white man did truely believe in the ANC when they came into power in 1994 but along the way they have slowly degenerated into a party of fools. Their arrogance and political power plays have left South Africans sitting on the sidelines, no longer do they care about the poor,self enrichment is the only thing they care about.Mr Lekota you have my vote for a new party, I hope the public show the ANC they are sick of their arrogance!
Kijo 10/6/2008 3:33:09 PM
They forgot who made them to be in parliament today, let the elections next year comes, wishing a new party to come out of the ANC before elections, I am telling you there will be a difference. I am like Arch. Tutu, I am hearting I don't see voting at this point in time.
Lee 10/6/2008 3:33:22 PM
AMANDLA!!!
Ach 10/6/2008 3:35:48 PM
All must vote, even the Arch must vote, for the party they feel can do the best. VOTE VOTE VOTE!
John Camp 10/6/2008 3:36:37 PM
I'm with you on that one bru, where do we put our cross? Paul Montele, yes we'll meet at the polls and yes you may win again BUT start counting your days sunshine. Gone is your 2/3rd majority, you'll be lucky if you manage 50%
Patrick Mkhwanazi 10/6/2008 3:36:59 PM
Your forefathers and many who are still alive today made a point of subjugating black people for no other reason than that God created them in a different colour. Post 1994 the government made several pleas for those people to give black people equal opportunities, and they defied that call. As a last resort, Employment Equity legislation was enacted to force them. Had it not for legislation, "Job Reservations" would still be in force as we speak.
Sinudeity@Gmail.com 10/6/2008 3:37:03 PM
Will rule until the antichrist comes back! ANC supporters, how can you claim the moral high ground here? Your Party has been usurped by Godless criminals. Mbeki vs Zuma. Lekota etc. I dont care! The truth is, satan is in charge. And his first lieutenant (Zuma), will be worse for SA than PW Botha was!
Geog 10/6/2008 3:39:35 PM
A quick vote count on this matter tells me that 70% of comments are anti ANC... gud one... but no value on these comments which literally renders them ill-conceived. Thobile to get his writer to right responses back for him again.
Matrix 10/6/2008 3:43:42 PM
So many examples of non-civil character & behaviour by ANC officials & leaders. All indicitive of the characters running the show & the country. From most senior to junior ANCYL. See what Tutu said. Unrest, despots, etc. within the ranks & those voted for ANC. Not the same ANC as in the beginning. Eish. Zim path already started. R8.84 to $1.00 politics stink & hurt us all.
Ketso 10/6/2008 3:44:15 PM
so is the ANC & what is sad is that cde Terror is aware of, because he was once the National Chairperson. cde Terror belongs to a branch & there are upper structures, like REC, PEC & NEC. He knows very well that a discipline member of the organisation has a right to raise any issue or complain within the structures of the movement & that we are ANC-constitutionally OBLIGED to respect the decision of the majority within the ANC. I cant therefore agree with cde Terror on this one!
CC 10/6/2008 3:46:46 PM
Love the "conspiracy theory" comment - SACP and COSATU must be laughing all the way - they seem to be running JZ's ANC anyway. Viva Viva Comrades!
bee 10/6/2008 3:50:19 PM
I am an adamant ANC loyalist, however I must say I am dissapointed at recent ANC behaviour. I am also concerned about power-hungry vocab such as 'crush, whip, kill' that ANC leaders as a whole seem to subscribe to.
Proudly black 10/6/2008 3:51:05 PM
Fluffy, you can say that again.......
Sinudeity@Gmail.com 10/6/2008 3:53:48 PM
The ANC IS run by 13 year olds. Well. The MENTAL intellect of 13 year olds at least. Malema is the school house bully that just needs ONE KLAP to sort him out.
Proudly black 10/6/2008 3:55:06 PM
Thobile, please if you have personal agendas against the ANC or any individual in the ANC try not to make a public issue please. Have you ever heard of any better politician? If you happen to know of any politician that truly have public interests before their own, tell us if not then keep your opinions to yourself.

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