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Manuel for president!
07/10/2008 11:31
I for one think that Trevor Manuel should start his own party and run for president! I would vote for him. He is surely more capable than those cardboard cut-outs running the ANC and government. Imagine a president who can actually think about what he is going to say BEFORE putting his foot in his mouth... Not to mention that this guy is respected by nearly all racial groups in this country based purely on his competence at the highest level alone - Can we say the same about Zuma? - ShRoOm |
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When Trevor goes
07/10/2008 11:31
The new leadership will abandon inflation targetting, forcing Tito to resign as well. Then they will print more money so workers can be paid more, nationalise mines and key industries because the mineral wealth belongs to the people, productivity declines, they borrow money from IMF/World bank and redistribute the land by force..and voila..the economy has be Zanu-fied!The struggle continues!! - IandI |
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Do you know something we don't
07/10/2008 11:36
Manuel has stated more than once that he is willing and able and available to serve the new administration. The ANC have also repeatedly said that since all their economic policies are decided at conferences -with the input of alliance partners- they do not plan to change anyhting. Do you know something we don't? - VG |
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to nameless writer
07/10/2008 11:39
What exactly has trevor done?He got onto a plane with auto pilate activated and course mapped and sat back.I for one remember the days when trevor,then a UDF member,chanted for children to abuse their parents if they shopped at OK bazaar,he`s a disgrace and a mockery. - fatman |
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If Trevor goes??
07/10/2008 11:39
This article is based on pure speculation - what's the use discussing this if we don't yet know what the ANC and Trevor's plans are? - Iceberg |
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Save your toilet paper...
07/10/2008 11:40
If Trevor Manuel leaves the Rand will do the same as the Zimbabwean dollar - toilet paper will be worth more than bank notes! But then again, why worry? We don't need to buy expensive medicines - after all, garlic cures Aids remember? The ANC should have their own comedy show because they would be really funny if it wasn't for the fact that they are in government. Unfortunately, the joke is all on us... - ShRoOm |
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Trevor or no Trevor we moving forward
07/10/2008 11:42
I agree it will be huge setback if Trevor Manuel goes, he is one of the most passionate Minster ever touched his soil and he is good at what he does. However, we live in a country that has a huge pool of expects in different fields, i believe that should Trevor decide to live , we will wake up and the sun will be coming out from the East to the West. No one is irreplacable, we should stop relying on the same people all the time. - Thokozani |
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@1and1
07/10/2008 11:45
In other words... "aLOOTa continua"! - The Truth |
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lol@VG
07/10/2008 11:45
"The ANC have also repeatedly said..." And you believed them? No wonder you are so confused.. - ShRoOm |
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Trevor
07/10/2008 11:47
COSATU and the SACP have been very critical of Trevor's policies so they will certainly demand some-one who will implement their policies. The sad part is that there isn't anyone groomed to take over from Trevor except Jabu Moleketi and I don't think the NEC will aprove of him as he is seen as a Mbeki lanky. Sad but true. JZ, it's payback time. - Tebogo |
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Why be so negative
07/10/2008 11:47
Trevor Manuel is not irreplacable. There are other competent people in his department who are actually running the Department and compiling the financial reports. I don't think for one minite that the ANC will will do anything to damage the SA financail market as without heeps of money they cannot do bugger-all. - GSman |
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THEN WHAT? SIYAYA PHAMBILI
07/10/2008 11:47
Lekota and his cronnies are trying to hold this country to a ransom and they won't win, pre 94 a lot of people were preparing for a civil war and nothing happened we voted and we are still witnesses of what happened that day, Manuel didn't assume that office with lot of finance degrees or years of experience but he did an OK job, so whether he leave or stays it's up him and ANC, we have many capable citizens in this country who can do that job, anyway he is still a member of the ANC NEC. - Paul aka the communist Montele |
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Last of the Mohicans!
07/10/2008 11:47
Well once he is gone.....all that's left is to watch it all spiral down the porcelain bowl! - Anti-Zuma : Washes corruption off "easily" |
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Trevor
07/10/2008 11:49
COSATU and the SACP have been very critical of Trevor's policies so they will certainly demand some-one who will implement their policies. The sad part is that there isn't anyone groomed to take over from Trevor except Jabu Moleketi and I don't think the NEC will aprove of him as he is seen as a Mbeki lanky. Sad but true. JZ, it's payback time. - Tebogo |
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When Mr T Manuel departs
07/10/2008 11:49
Which will happen sooner or later, preferably later, we can only hope that sanity will prevail in the ANC collective(what ever that is)because if the SACP/COSATU owned Lovepants government implemements their communist ideology, South African citizens had better start learning from their Northern neigbours how to survive with inflation in the millions of %. - Sven Gohre |
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Who cares if he doesn't come back?
07/10/2008 11:50
Exceptional job my foot! There's people around Manuel who are probably clever than him. If he decides not to come back next year, then it's fine ANC will find someone capable. Only white folks worry about Manuel not coming back, is there some common grounds that we are not aware of except the skin colour? - Ukhandampondo |
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Trust
07/10/2008 11:52
Manuel is a politician, and as much as I lik and respect him, would not place money on anything he says. He may not like the way the new guys run things or he may not have as much say. It may well happen that he won't last too long. - Mark T |
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@Paul aka the communisty Montele
07/10/2008 11:56
'Lekota and his cronnies are trying to hold this country to a ransom..." Could you possibly explain what you mean by this? I don't see them stealing votes or threatening violence - methods the ANC has used in the Western Cape before to try and take over. He did not approve of certain ANC practices and this means he is holding us to ransom? Get a life Paul, the world does not revolve around the ANC... - ShRoOm |
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The poor are first to suffer.
07/10/2008 11:59
But if thery want to suffer more and sink deeper in to non delivery and poverty by voting for the uneducated pathetic troop in the next elections, then they DESERVE what they get. I just feel sorry for the rest of us (forward thinking people) whose tax money will ALSO be wasted.
Byt hey... that's democracy for you. You can vote regardless of IQ! - Juan |
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Oh dear Shroom
07/10/2008 12:01
I didn't make any refernce tobeing confused -I think you're maybe confused yourself? You seem to forget that the policies that the country has followed to date are ANC ones..and actually the economy has done pretty well. But then,sorry, I forgot that you're one of those who delights in spreading doom and gloom. - VG |
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@Paul Montele
07/10/2008 12:02
Please remove "the communist" from your name.You are merely embarrassing yourself further by advertising your misguided and unrealistic support for a tried,tested and failed ideology. - The Truth |
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@Thokozani
07/10/2008 12:02
Yes Trevor Manual may indeed be replaceable - but that is not the point. The fact remains it is the perceptions of the world that matters. It doesn't matter if Trevor's replacement is 100 times better than him, the world will not see it that way and investors will pull out of this country and the economy may well colapse in the same way as in Zimbabwe! Every action has a reaction and all factors should be considered before doing stupid things in government. - ShRoOm |
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Why be so negative
07/10/2008 12:07
Trevor Manuel is not irreplacable. There are other competent people in his department who are actually running the Department and compiling the financial reports. I don't think for one minite that the ANC will will do anything to damage the SA financail market as without heeps of money they cannot do bugger-all. - GSman |
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@Ukhandampondo - "Who cares if he doesn't come back?"
07/10/2008 12:10
To answer your question, the world cares. Investors will pull out of this country and the Rand value will plummet. If it is only "white folks" (you racist idiot) that worry then I am saddened by the fact that too many black people don't care about our economy or the poor people of this country! Put your racist issues aside and look at the bigger picture. - ShRoOm |
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manuel
07/10/2008 12:13
mr manuel you have been outstanding during your time. you have been one in a few who has actually done his job, but really now- when are we going to learn to accept change? if mr manuel goes i'm sure the ruling gov. will find a suitable and competent replacement for him. after all mr manuel is only human- he deserves retirement and peace during old age, like everybody else! - aviwe |
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@VG
07/10/2008 12:14
Yes, the economy has done pretty well because of guys like Trevor Manual - not because of what goes on in the ANC. Every time the health minister or the president opened their mouths our economy took huge knocks - or were you not paying attention these last 14 years? I do not delight in 'spreading doom and gloom' as you put it - the ANC voters do that well enough on their own. - ShRoOm |
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Back to Basics
07/10/2008 12:16
The ANC DEPLOYS cadres to carry out a mandate. The mandate is to have a socialist NDR and not a capitalist NDR.There cannot be any changes in policies becos ANC has adopted all resolutions per their Policy Confer. This article is therefore mischievous.If u follow the line drawn here you will arrive at a proper conclusion. Stop misleading but seek to educate the howlers in this forum.If Trev is deployed to same portfolio, he will accept.He is a disciplined cadre after all! - Cape Town Kid |
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07/10/2008 12:16
The investors are already pulling out. With business stating that they trust this "new regime" they are just buying time to cash-in their own personal portfolios. And Google Manuel and IMF. He is already moving things onto IMF job. - Peter |
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Summarised version of M&G
07/10/2008 12:19
Funnybones, this article is the summarised version of what I read from the M&G website yesterday. Did you write that one as well or did you just copy it? Just asking do not shoot to kill the messenger (me). - pasta |
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@Ukhandampondo
07/10/2008 12:23
Do you have to play the race card? Whenever I read these comments its almost always a black reader who starts the race issue. Let me guess, you support communism and thats why you want Trevor gone? Think a bit beyond tomorrow about the consequences of what will happen to this economy? Its about perception and its created by your actions... why do you think we all think this govermenent is a joke? unless of course you have a warped perception... - Tim2 |
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@Ukhandampondo, "ANC will find someone capable", of what???
07/10/2008 12:26
Ruinning what was successfully built up over years / appointing an incompetent official to the post / someone capable of exploiting the "gravy train" even more? Yes, there are very capable intellectual professionals, but they will not be appointed because they are NOT ANC. Then who will be the loser? You & me, by paying more tax, getting less value & service delivery, no vision, ... Cmon. Dont be so blind. Its NOT a race thing, it is a competency thing. You also a sucker for punishment? - Matrix |
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Trevor, the salesman
07/10/2008 12:29
The SA dependency on Trevor for good economic policies has been overrated for a long time. his advisers in the IMF and World Bank have kept him on the straight and narrow of US and EU economical guidelines. Other than that, his annual "tips for Trevor" has been a excellent marketing gimmick. His natural showmanship talent did the rest for his credibility. Should he go? Who cares indeed. - Benzo |
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@ShRoOM
07/10/2008 12:30
Whilst a agree with the principle that the global community does care, note that South Africa plays a miniscule role in global affairs hence I doubt the impact, albeit significant, will alter the ecomonical landscape on a global scale. Indeed, South Africa may experience a slight downturn however I doubt will be crippled. The world isnt that fickle and Trevor Manuel aint Moses, thus the global community wouldnt shed a tear if he leaves. As the saying goes, the show must go on. - Jay |
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VG
07/10/2008 12:31
Why don't you get of your high horse and stop your witty comments towards others points of view, oops sorry you have been brainwashed by the ANC and can't think for yourself. - Fred |
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Intelligence in NEC??? Is that a fact???
07/10/2008 12:33
From recent happenings, & claim that T.Manual is part of NEC???, the facts & the results from their actions (Mbeki saga), I shudder to considder what "intelligence" is seated in it. Who are the Intelligent / Intellectuals in the NEC? Please tell us. Do you considder enriched ANC (AA) business individuals OR extremists in this category OR is it SACP / ANCYL / Cosatu leading this country? I dont see T.Manual as one of them???? - Matrix |
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@ ShRoOm
07/10/2008 12:36
You must really hate the ANC hey, what have they done to you??? Please if you have the negative mentality don't make it a public issue...Trevor can go, there are a lot of people better than him that can do the job just as good or even better....think outside the box bra & stop being narrow minded. Trevor's not God & therefore can easily be replaced, infact he has to be replaced & give a chance to other people... - Proudly black |
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@ The Truth and ShRoOm
07/10/2008 12:38
Well Len did try the other day to unbundle what is going on with the biggest Capitalist US and yet because of your little understanding of economics you didn't pick it up,the whole world is faced with turmoil because of your capitalist policies, why the free market didn't help itself? and why must the state intervene? go and read Engels, Marx etc and educate yourself about economics not the US propaganda of socialism having failed, in capitilism richer gets richer and poor remains poor. - Paul aka the communist Montele |
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Manuel is the face of SA's Economy
07/10/2008 12:38
There may well be other worthy candidates for the job, but the outside world sees Trevor as the steady hand at the helm. If an "unknown" replaces him, there will most certainly be a backlash from the world markets which, quite frankly, South Africans cannot afford in today's depressed world economy. - Sunshine |
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@Cape Town Kid
07/10/2008 12:39
You forget that Trevor Manuel is a human being and not an organisation - therefore he can make his own decisions. - ShRoOm |
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@Ukhandampondo
07/10/2008 12:39
Skin colour? I dont want to burst your bubble, but I do not think Trevor Manual is "white' as per ANC classification. The honourable Mr Irwin is "white" - I think. Nobody in their right minds thinks he is doing a good job. Manual is. So what is your point exactly? - TB |
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Ukhandampondo
07/10/2008 12:42
Why do you think only whites care about Trevor? Do you know something about the writer of this article that we don't? He might be black, for all we know, so that is another black man worrying about Trevor. - Chantelle |
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TREVOR MANUEL
07/10/2008 12:48
Strange the same speculation/article appeared in the MAIL & GUARDIAN this morning ........????
Go figure - jimmy b |
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@ The Truth and ShRoOm
07/10/2008 12:49
Guys i'm a card carrying member of SACP, ANC, Cosatu and ANCYL, I'M NOT ASHAMED OF THAT AND MY COMMUNIST IDEAS I WONT HIDE THEM, THIS IS NOT 1970 WHEN YOU TOLD THAT COMMUNIST ARE GOING TO TAKE YOUR COUNTRY,AND YOU WERE TAKEN FOR MILITARY TRAINING LOL TO DEFEND APARTHEID, WE CAN ENGAGE IN ECONOMIC DISCUSSION, DON'T BE SCARED OF WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW - Paul aka the communist Montele |
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Mr Manuel
07/10/2008 12:51
It seems that people only associate competency with white people, and yet they say it is not a race issue, what then, what defines competency? We are saying that there would be capable people to replace Mr Manuel, when his term expires. The markets and investors also re-acted negatively when he came in as finance minister, lest we forget. - Nyambos |
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A
07/10/2008 12:51
Dude, TM is not white, he is coloured. Seriously!!! - Ukhandampondo |
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Too Smart
07/10/2008 12:53
Everybody who is capable of replacing Trevor Manuel is smart enough to know that if JZ and his militant sheep come into power, its downhill from there and will leave the country. I am black, but will never vote for the ANC and their bunch of little trouble makers. - Mojojo |
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A very scary thought indeed.
07/10/2008 12:54
&since so many foreign investors invested in SA because of Manuels policies, a migration to an unknown finance minister (as far as the world is concerned) could be disastrous. If I was a big foreign investor I would take my money away from SA & wait until the situation has panned out. This could mean a sputtering economy for a couple of years. Combined with the current trade deficit it would spell a nightmare for job creation& alleviation of poverty, something the trade unions are trying to avoid - M |
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He, He, noticed with intrigue --> biggest loser today at 10:16 on JSE
07/10/2008 12:54
Biggest LOSERS Share Value % BEE 2 -33.33%. Though it may be appropriate in this forum & applicable to what might happen if T. Manual out OR when ANC regime changes make-up. Hmmm..... There is always hope. - Matrix |
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Another day
07/10/2008 12:57
and another reason to whine......got to love the attitudes of people, but i'm sorry, its the governments fault you a bunch of miserable,negative sods - AM |
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@GSman
07/10/2008 12:58
Try convincing foreign investors of that one buddy. I personally don't know you&therefor wouldn't trust a word you say&so will they.They will take the wait and see approach,something SA can't afford at this time.The setback would be huge&take years to recover from. - M |
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Re: Ukhandamplonker
07/10/2008 12:59
Ukhandamwhatever, don't be put off by those trying to criticize. You are right - the ANC WILL find someone capable. They are overflowing with capable people. One such person is Manto - if she becomes Finance Minister we'll have not only an Einstein in charge but as a bonus we'll also get free nutritional advice in the form of garlic, beetroot and lemon juice. - Cynical |
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Speculation
07/10/2008 13:02
Sorry Funnybones. I have no idea where you get your 'facts' from regarding Manual not returning to the ANC. I will believe whatever you were writing about, when I see it. - Sinudeity@Gmail.com |
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@Ukhandampondo
07/10/2008 13:02
Thank God you aren't making the decisions here. Your insight into the economy and its volatility is frightening. Go back to 94 and see how long it took until the boom years. Your memory span is comparable to that of a goldfish. - M |
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Proudly Black
07/10/2008 13:05
Name some if you can which I doubt, stop shooting you mouth of if you can't back it up with some facts. Just onother ANC brainwashed idiot. - Fred |
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Finance ministers come and go
07/10/2008 13:08
Why then should we worry about Manuel going. The same happenned when finace minister before Manuel left, and look what happened.
Why should I worry about cahnging econmic policies because the previous policies only benefited the rich and not me. "People on the tree cannot shout and tell us we will fall from the tree when we are down" - Philani |
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@Paul aka the communist Montele
07/10/2008 13:09
Dear Paul, writing in caps means you are shouting.
Instead of raising your voice, why don't you rather better your argument ? That is what wise people do ........................ - Annie |
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@Paul aka the communist Montele
07/10/2008 13:11
American greed based capitalism is bad, we know this.But please,please do me a favour,unless you have seen a former communist state, or lived in one,don't try&sell us communism.It was ten times worse than capitalism.You &Cape Town Kid don't even know what communism was yet you proudly present it as the new beginning.Grow up kiddies - M |
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Paul aka the communist Montele
07/10/2008 13:12
Communism sucks. Remember how, facing the might of Russia/Cuba/Angola, the SADF KICKED communism's ass? The Russians didnt expect it. China pulls off Communism quite well, regardless of human-rights abuses, but like Ive mentioned before. Did you know that China EXECUTES corrupt politicians? I think once Africa finds THAT out, they wount want to have anything to do with them. - Sinudeity@Gmail.com |
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Mr Manuel can go
07/10/2008 13:13
and ANC will find someone amongst the 47million S Africans to replace him,all you doubting Thomases must go hang yourselves,did you give the same Manuel a chance when he took over in 1996? - ML |
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@VG
07/10/2008 13:13
For your info ANC economic policy is dictated to by world economic policy which at the moment happens to be capitalist oriented.They have no choice.If however the Polokwane Poephols now decide to be stubbornly different and go against the grain to merely prove that they are proud communists,then they will be doing this country great harm. - The Truth |
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What - are we going to spend the rest of our lives
07/10/2008 13:13
worrying about whether Clever Trevor is going to be controlling the purse strings? Nobody is irreplacable. If he does move on it would be nice if he secured a senior position in The World Bank. - John |
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Cynical - "Overflowing with Capable people"
07/10/2008 13:15
Thanks cyn. Your post made my afternoon. Wait. What? You were serious? Overflowing with 'capable' people. That must be why Zuma is gunning for Presidency. Someone should give that man an honourary doctors degree. Just so we can stop calling him uneducated. - Sinudeity@Gmail.com |
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Trevor Manuel has done an exceptional job,
07/10/2008 13:16
is the longest serving finance minister in the world. But, he must quit. He must not be part of the new government, we need fresh ideas and 14 years as FIN Minister is a long time.
As long as the elections are free and fair, investor confidence will come back irrespective of who the new minister is. - tshepo |
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Political face
07/10/2008 13:16
Has any one ever asked, who the DG of the finance department is? Those are the people that are actually doing the job and Trevor Manuel is a political figure - not taking any credit away from him, but to say that foreign investors will pull their funds out, is extreme,it did not happen prior to 1994 and it will certainly not happen because of one individual leaving. - Nyambos |
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Fred
07/10/2008 13:18
Well I like the view from up here, firstly. And second, how am I "brainwashed" simply by having an opinion? The more people like you and Shroom continue with your racist diatribes, the more inclined I am to vote ANC again.And thank you for the compliment on my wittiness; you've made my day - VG |
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Shroom
07/10/2008 13:21
Yes, the economy has done well because of people like Mr.Manuel who did an excellent job in implementing ANC POLICY .Did you think that GEAR and its predecessor the RDP fell out of the sky? - VG |
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Trevor has been awesome BUT
07/10/2008 13:21
he has been in his position for ages...Times change, and some people tend to get stuck in their ways - using the same techniques that worked 10 years ago! I am not saying that I want him gone, far from it - but we will need someone new soon! - KS |
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Thokozani
07/10/2008 13:22
"we live in a country that has a huge pool of expects in different fields" - Um Ya - they are just sitting at home waiting for Trevor to step down. Firstly have you heard of the brain drain?? Secondly most people with Trevors skills are already employed by private industry so first hey will have to get paid lots more moreny to leave their jobs - Finance ministers dont grow on trees. - Ulaka |
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@Mkhandampondo
07/10/2008 13:22
I am so not White yet I am very worried about the issues raised in this article - reason, I saw what happened to the SA markets the day he resigned.
@VG, of course policies will change. Haven't you heard SACP members say they are a big part of the tripartite (or however it's spelled) aliance? They don't like "capitalism" and with the help of Cosatu (who are forever on strike) they'll make sure the policies change - Non-white |
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Re- Manuel
07/10/2008 13:23
Manuel was not born as finance minister.If he leaves I am sure we get another better person to do finance job for this country.
For that matter he works with a team.let's change if there is a need for that. We cannot rely on one individual.
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When Manuel goes
07/10/2008 13:24
Some of the comments, mainly by whites,show that we have long way to go, unfortunately without some of the prophets of doom.There is no Trevor`s policies you ignorant people, these are ANC policies and if they are good, give credit to the ANC and not only the implementer. you will be disappointed that before you land in Holland or England ( choice is yours ) after the elections,South Africa will still be the same, go spoilers, go - junior |
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Trevor is overrated! there are other
07/10/2008 13:26
highly qualified ppl in that dept who are knowledgeable on economic/financial market issues, such as paula ramos, mleketi etc, although personally I wouldn't blame him if he leaves, I also wouldn't work for a president who believes that taking shower cleanses him of aids../it's an insult to self respecting and educated ppl of this country! JZ is a liability economically and otherwise! - Vicky |
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There are two seperate issues
07/10/2008 13:28
1) Manuel staying or going. He has to go sometime. (2) Fundamental changes in economic policy. It is possible to have (2) but for Manuel to stay. Or for Manuel to stay but no policy changes to take place. I believe the markets did not react to Manuel's deciding to seek a mandate from the new boss, but to uncertainty. - Big Bad Bob |
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@Paul "The Red" Montele
07/10/2008 13:28
I know all I need to know about Marxism/Socialism/Communism thanks.I remember seeing what 80 years of it wrought unto the Soviet Union and its satellite states before they caught a wake up,and what it is still doing to the poor people of Cuba and North Korea.Capitalism is not perfect and it may ruin lives when it goes wrong,but at least if you work hard in it you reap the rewards,unlike with your ideology where you work hard and the state reaps the rewards. - The Truth |
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never fear
07/10/2008 13:28
we have many capable cadres to fill manuals post like yengeni, malema, vavi even fikile. - kolobe |
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@Cape Town Kid
07/10/2008 13:30
Go back to school and learn please ? you are clearly still in Std 3 or you have been fast tracked through the school system when in fact someone should have kept you back a year. Your ignorance is an embarrassment to all other Cape Town kids so please don?t insult the rest of us by using that name. - Ulaka |
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Communist supporters
07/10/2008 13:32
To all you communist supporters may be it is time for you all to start working (and educate yourselves) and stop waiting for handouts. It is seriously not coming your way. - hc |
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ukhandaphondo...whow what a name
07/10/2008 13:32
oh please am thinking who can we fall back on if Trevor leaves the office...ok Mantashe will get us one of his farm boys miners like him who knows nothing but to make a miners noise. people need to wake up and smell the coffe that we are in deep trouble with JZ and his croonies - respect |
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manauel might not come back
07/10/2008 13:33
I dont' know the motive of this topic but i suspect it is only to undermine the current ANC government. Cde Manuel was not born as a Minister of Finance but he was groomed by the same ANC which is label today as a bad organisation by counter-revolutionaries.
In ANC there are many cadres who could replace Cde Manuel. Namely, Cde Zweli Mkhize, Cde Mpahlwa, Cde Godongwana, Cde Max Sisuslu the list is long wait for 1999. - dopla |
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t manuel
07/10/2008 13:37
it is true manuel did the right job, people must eccept changes, what if manuel passed away. no body is living for ever there is someone out there mybe you can do better - esther |
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Intelligentsia....
07/10/2008 13:38
For those amongst us who still do not understand, please google socialism and communism for meaning. Also dudes, our Trevor is a result of the ANC's pol education system. Not the other way around! - Cape Town Kid |
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@Paul "Karl Marx" Montele
07/10/2008 13:41
Its amazing that communism was so popular with the people who had to live with it for so long,that as soon as they were finally given the chance to choose they rid themselves of its yolk.Why do you think the Chinese,Cuban and North Korean regimes are so afraid to allow their citizens to vote democratically? - The Truth |
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Trevor (IMO) is overrated! there are ppl in his
07/10/2008 13:42
team/dept who have been working alongside him to achieve success reflected by that dept. Its not fair to only recognise Trevor as if he was the only one with capabilities, Paula Ramos, Jabu Mleketi are but some of the few who will readily fill Trevor's position should it become vacant. Why do ppl act as if the sky will fall if Trevor resigns? yes there will be financial instability with the markets/investors, but SA has more than enough capable ppl to that if it happens. NO one is invincible! - Vicky |
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@VG - 'racist diatribe'
07/10/2008 13:43
You brand me a racist simply because I dislike the ANC? Are you implying then that only non-racists vote for the ANC? You sir, are clearly an idiot. The issue of Manuel leaving or staying has nothing to do with race. The fact that I disagree with the ANC's Communistic leanings does not make me or anyone else a racist! - ShRoOm |
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Malema
07/10/2008 13:45
i feel sorry for poor stupid Malema. Mbeki left with his dignity intact. Malema who are going to insult this time? Malema go back to school and be taught english,manners and repect for elders. that is how far you can go. - Mmemme Retsalanye Molapisi |
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Trevor Manuel
07/10/2008 13:45
Please understand politics well,Trevor works with a team of people and he is only the political head in the department,therefore when he goes he will be replaced easily, simple.ANC is very rich with intelligent people who understand economics well whether you hate the ANC or not,or whether you are very bitter and miserable about ANC BEING IN POWER OR NOT.The fact of the matter is that they are the ruling party.It's not a matter of an individual ruling the country.We agree the guy did a good job. - Vusi |
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SA democracy control by
07/10/2008 13:57
4500 branch members. The current president was not elected by the public but by the branch members at Polokwane. The democracy is not well and is not working for the people. Any clear thinking person like Manuel will not assosiate himself with a regime that is currently ruling this country. I am suprise he is still in the government. - Hendrik |
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@ matrix &ShRoom
07/10/2008 13:58
you guys are full of bitternesas about TM being recalled, sorry about dat, he's gone.If Manuel goes he will be replaced, just wait and see.The markets will do the same as they did when Manuel got into the position.After that they became stable.We'll vote for the ANC, u guys are free to vote for FF/holomisa/DA/ID/IFP/PAC - Vusi |
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I have never had much love for Lekota..
07/10/2008 13:58
but I respect him for standing by his principles.He is so right in saying that the ANC has been hijacked by "the Reds" (if only it was the crappy Aussie rugby team I wouldn't be so concerned,but its not). - The Truth |
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lol @ Siyabulela:-) good one!
07/10/2008 13:59
HC/Fred do you guys really have to be so condenscending to put your point across? there's nothing wrong with being a communist, remember SA's consitution allows all of these freedoms in this case association. You guys always profess that SA is a "one party state under the ANC" and yet you are intolerant to opposition, opposition doesn't mean that ppl have to be DA, they can be communists as well you know? you and I might not support communists ideologies! Hi Dopla kunjani mfethu? - Vicky |
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@ANNIE,M, SINUDEITY
07/10/2008 14:00
Annie i was merely emphasising my point not shouting, M, Cape Town Kid has already given you an answer to that, Sinudeity, the SADF was given a hiding in Angola and Castro told his troops to pull back once the job was done don't distort the truth, the UN even told Pik Botha that he lost in the battle ground he can't fight his case in UN Security Council he must tell his boys to go home and leave Namibia,if your email is the correct 1 i'll forward you the truth not that crap. - Paul aka the communist Montele |
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Cape Town Kid
07/10/2008 14:00
Why not try and peddle Communism at the poor that suffered as a result of former Russia's communistic ways? See what they have to say about it... Leave the politics up to the adults please - if we want the opinion of someone from kindegarten we will be sure to call you. - ShRoOm |
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@Ulaka
07/10/2008 14:02
Amandla!!! - Lee |
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@ANNIE,M, SINUDEITY
07/10/2008 14:05
I've asked if the market can do on its own, why did the state had to intervene? and none of you have explained that to me, stop being blinded by G8 propaganda, they do have the means to spread wrong information about socialism and deprive you of the truth while protecting their capitalist agenda of enriching themselves at the expense of others. SOCIALISM IS THE WAY. - Paul aka the communist Montele |
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@Cape Wine(Town) Kid
07/10/2008 14:05
Weeeee aaarrreee nnooottt sssttuupppiiddd!!!!! - Lee |
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