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You are talking to a brick wall
16/01/2008 11:48
if you think the "mors jorse" will go for that,they can't/won't even throw their rubbish in a bin standing right next to them (much better to just toss it on the pavement or in the road for some other poor bugger to pick up).A favourite of mine is seeing how many things are simply thrown out of vehicle windows on the road,banana peels,apple cores,beer cans etc.You should be grateful for living in one of the cleanest cities in SA,come and see our "tourist paradise" of Dirtbin (sorry,Durban). - The Truth |
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Cleaning up my act
16/01/2008 11:51
I am not going to bother myself with any articles that irritate me, I am rather going out to do my hair and nails now. - Stolen ID |
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Enlighten me please..
16/01/2008 11:52
Implement a province-wide ban on dustbins in public places and start enforcing a "you bring it, you bag it" policy. then after you bag it where are you going to take it? Travel with the rubbish bag in a car or a taxi for that matter a few kilometres to your township or suburb then dump it in your own dustbin, again then still somebody must come to collect your dustbin. again to enforce your policy you will require thousands of permanent security guards.You are however spot on about the responsibility to educate our children to clean up their mess.. - kolobe |
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stupid proposal
16/01/2008 11:53
I would rather say bring MORE bins to parking lots and public places .. people will just throw their rubbish on the pavement, in the streets, out of the car window .. so really .. not very clever comment. and please don't tell me the POLICE should also enforce that as well! - Beggar |
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Just the other day...
16/01/2008 11:54
I saw a lady (well dressed and all) walking down the street in a small town on Route66. She just chucked her used cooldrink can right there. Why? Is a can too heavy to carry to your house or what? - Embee |
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Job Creation
16/01/2008 11:55
It was once said that for every paper, bottle, etc that is indiscriminantely just thrown away, you are creating a job for another person.You should see the parks and open spaces in Louis Trichardt (Makado)and Messina (Musina) over the festive season - there was massive job creation. - JD |
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Go to eating outlets and see it at its worst.
16/01/2008 11:57
You are so correct. Wait till you go to fast food outlets in this country. People mess up the table with their food left overs and sauces and then leave, while a dustbin is just 5 steps away from the table. And the next user must be disgusted first before they actually have their meal. Talking about fast food, why do they call it fast when we actually wait 45 minutes for the pizza? Isn't that pretty slow? - Sello |
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Good topic
16/01/2008 11:57
Littering has negative effect on a lot of things including the environment, tourism and our own health. It sickens me when I see people leaving rubbish at the beach or even throwing a chocolate wrapper out off the window. I hope your message will change reach a lot of those culprits and get them to change their minds. - jmafia |
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clean up after yourselves
16/01/2008 11:58
It is absolutely DISGUSTING how people leave the beaches and anywhere else they 'party' - pure laziness and no respect. - Max |
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Agree and Disagree
16/01/2008 12:00
While I agree that its important, I disagree that it will require effort. We're all lazy and cannot even implement simple things like keeping a "dirtbag" in our cars, instead of throwing our tins out while driving. My sister in law has trained both her children, by example mostly, to pick up after themselves (5 and 3 yrs) and when at the beach they will rather keep chips pkts in their pockets than just throw it away. South Africans need to stop being so filthy and disgusting, it puts me to shame. - Tanya |
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The *Rubbish Factor*
16/01/2008 12:02
I am so pleased that this subject has, at last been brought up. But, like the previous comment by *The Truth* we are just talking to a brick wall. It is all over, and no matter how you try and educate the masses, I am afraid we shall continue to fight the *act of cleaning up* Not to mention the health factor. What about in and around the squatter camps? Now that is another story. Educate them? No I dont think so. What a shame our country has come to this!!! - carol |
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Even Better
16/01/2008 12:02
How about, there are people walking around, and when a person litters, he gets a R1000 fine, hitting the pocket is a lot easier to learn people better manners!! - Truth |
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The Truth - you're a winger
16/01/2008 12:04
The Truth, you're a cantankerous bitter fool. You seem consumed with your vengeance for life. It's hindering you. Why don't you just move on man and stop whining? Be little positive. - TheReal DJ |
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Respect
16/01/2008 12:07
I am lucky that I stay in one of cleaner CBD in South Africa being Cape Town. I think Durban and Johannesburg has the most disgusting CBD's I have every seen. People who litter and mess show disprespect towards themselves, others and their environment. - Gia |
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garbage
16/01/2008 12:08
great article, lets put our hands together for the rubbish police, it is not that far a stretch since our police is rubbish anyway - kitchenboy |
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...R U 4 Real..???
16/01/2008 12:08
...here I am sitting worring about going home to a dark house, my wife being raped, me being shot in the back, my daughter being driven off in my hijacked car and you are worried about a couple of chicken bones and some Bar One rappers ?? - Badger |
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naive
16/01/2008 12:10
The key to your argument is 'start enforcing a "you bring it, you bag it" policy'. There are already laws in place to prevent littering and we are seemingly unable to enforce these (same might be said for the enforcement of other laws in this country). It's a mind set that will take a long time to change. Homes are the obvious places to start however, until ignorance and conditions improve for many, it's going to be up to the schools to educate. - roy |
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Let's do something about it
16/01/2008 12:15
From now on, if you see someone throwing down rubbish, or throwing it from a car, while you're driving, hoot at them! Apparently it's education that is wanting, so give it freely. Also, if you see a shop giving away free plastic bags, report them. - Pieter Joubert |
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Taxis
16/01/2008 12:17
Try driving behind a taxi in Durban. The rubbish that gets flung from the windows is incredible. - SimonT |
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Is that the best you can do...
16/01/2008 12:19
"TheReal DJ"? I tell things the way I see them every day of my working life in waht was once my proud,clean city.If you have to resort to petty name calling and have no other contribution to make regarding the issue of uncontrolled filth in our cities and the lack of cleanliness of certain members of the public,than I pity you. - The Truth |
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clean up ???? what do you mean?
16/01/2008 12:21
The irony is that with 80% of people are employed to clean up at offices or the work place - but they cannot clean up after themselves where they live WHY? because they are not getting paid to do it!!!!!! - Sido |
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Truth - your suggestion wont work.
16/01/2008 12:21
"How about, there are people walking around, and when a person litters, he gets a R1000 fine," Sorry to disappoint you, but this suggestion wont work in SA for the following reasons :
1. People hired to walk around will be on strike for poor working conditions and low pay.
2. The person supposed to be fine will be unemployed and cant pay that amount.
3. Even if the person had that money, tsotsis will have robbed him/her of the money the minute she started walking.
Need any more reasons? - Sello |
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There are more serious things to worry about...
16/01/2008 12:22
like our electricity shortage. Worrying about litter is a waste of time and energy-excuse the pun - Blazito |
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CAROL- you never fail to amaze me...
16/01/2008 12:22
...with your stupid comments. Educating people always brings results even if its a handful of people but it's better than whining about it and doing nothing. Don't even mention the squatter camps cos you have no idea what it's like to live under those conditions without the basic services. This is everybody's responsibility and YES we should educate our kids as well as ADULTS because some people just don't understand the bigger picture-they still think of it as JOB CREATION but it's the opposite. - jmafia |
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True
16/01/2008 12:25
What Maritza is saying is very true. Unfortunately most working class communities have no respect for the environment - it is quite common for everyone to simply throw any and all rubbish on the ground - I see this on a daily basis in particular in Maitland in Cape Town. I think the answer to this problem would be education at home, but we are so far gone that you'll have to start with educating the adults involved with all this.Good luck with that tho- most can't even read or write. - Cass |
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Brainiac Comment 4 Brainiac Article
16/01/2008 12:28
WAHAHAHAHAHA a "province-wide ban on dustbins" what on earth have u been smoking? While you see it as bad discipline for littering, I see it as job creation. What will Cape Metropole's Solid Waste Department do without rubbish to pick up? But on a more serious note my dear Tree Hugging citizen, yes in Utopia such a world exists. Sadly here on Earth homo-sapiens enjoy the occasional sweet wrapper lying around :) - DIVX |
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Littering
16/01/2008 12:30
What I DO, when I see somebody littering, is to pick it up, and hand it to the person, saying "Excuse me, you lost something". Doesn't always work, but sometimes it does. - KoosS |
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Rubbish
16/01/2008 12:35
Wish I could say you were talking rubbish! - Martin |
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In school
16/01/2008 12:41
Children drop litter to and from and school, & the school says its not their problem! Surely teaching people not to litter is the ground work for teaching people respect. To the person who said there are bigger problems- I think lack of respect and pride is the problem. Just because we care about the stae of our habitiat doesn't take away our concern about all of our societies problems. The solution begins with education and sorting the small problems first to lead the way for 'bigger' issues. - Natalie |
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You right...
16/01/2008 12:44
Age old story....come and look at The Japanese Gardens in Durban North after a Sunday. Oh and "Stolen ID" if you knew me you would know I have no hair... very childish using my ID...try be original. - Haha |
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Absolute Rubbish
16/01/2008 12:46
Yes littering is bad, but there are people employed to clean up afterwards, there is nothing you can do to stop people from littering after new years etc. South Africans are finding an excuse to complain about all these trivial nonsense, we have much bigger problems at hand.
p.s if you come accross a piece of paper then pick it up stop being mona lisa's - MP4 |
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Banana Republic
16/01/2008 12:46
Um, throwing apple cores and banana peels out the window is not really littering is it? It is a natural product which will break down very quickly. Plastic and tin on the other hand will take literally thousands of years. - Rubbish Bin |
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yes
16/01/2008 12:49
Yes I do belive the long term effects of littering is very concerning, the problem is however that the distrubed people of this country who commit crimes from petty theft to corruption to rape and murder obviously have no respect for life nevermind littering. As the country rids irself from people like this the natuural progression of healthly enviroment will follow. - wb |
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Moving
16/01/2008 12:50
I am moving to Franchoek in WP. why?
That place is spotless. Compliments to the people there. - The O' JAYS |
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KoosS
16/01/2008 12:56
Doesn't always work-somebody must have told you that they dont want it, you can have it - The O' JAYS |
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Singapore
16/01/2008 12:56
Spot fine or jail term if you are caught littering or peeing in a public place (one of the cleanest cities on Earth,I wonder why?).The problem is,how do you enforce this in a country where major crimes like murder,robbery and rape are not punished enough/go unpunished completely,and the police force is demotivated because they are unappreciated/underpaid and their Commish is a crook? - The Truth |
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Call it
16/01/2008 13:00
Job Creation :-) - Steve |
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TIAB
16/01/2008 13:01
Welcome to Our Country!!!!!! - Legz |
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Take a Leaf from the Aussies
16/01/2008 13:05
Remembering when I visited Australia for the first time in may visits in 1998, we had lunch at a food court in a large shopping. I was speechless to observe however person after their meal went and placed their litter in various recycleable bins, and then placed their food trays on tray racks. In the city streets people will carry their litter with them until they come across a litter bin. Their beaches are spotless and no condoms are seen floating in the surf, like in SA. - Lionel |
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Rubbish
16/01/2008 13:06
It will make more sense to implement a law to fine people who dump rubbish on the streets. The problem is, this country is filled with rubbish, and I'm not necessarily referring to dirt, papers and plastic bags... People who aren't neat and tidy - it says alot about their character. - Citizen |
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Job cresation
16/01/2008 13:11
It is called Job Creation, if you throw your rubish in the bin the next person would be out of a job. That is the reason that I got when I asked someone to pick up his rubish - Rubish |
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Badger... Bar-one rapper?
16/01/2008 13:17
Haha, would like to see a bar one rap. I agree with you but at least this article is about something OTHER than the load shedding saga. The main culprits are the ones who dont get given dustbins-the people in townships. They grow up to be litterers and never cease.
Send the dustbins there... - Tomato |
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Ill-discipline, thats all
16/01/2008 13:17
i am so glad you raised this, though i must say that your proposal is a little naive. why do people litter, i just dont get it! i have been to Korea, i was so impressed with the discipline, no littering, no crossing the street at non-designated areas etc. when are we going to get there, Eish! - boni |
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No Jobs
16/01/2008 13:28
I was walking on the streets one day when this woman walked passed me and threw a wrapper on the ground. I asked her why she didn't throw it in the bin and her comment was "then the street cleaners won't have any work to do". What a lame excuse - a pig in my opinion!! - Anonymess |
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2010
16/01/2008 13:38
What are the municipalities going to do in 2010 there will be a huge clean up effort with a T shirt for every person helping with the clean up, and as soon as the soccer is over the filth will be back. My one idea is a spot fine for any littering and if you have no money on you be given a black bag and a pair of disposable gloves and be made to fill the bag and then tie the top and put it on the corner and a daily collection of all bags, that might train adults to not litter. - Bev |
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Unbelievable!
16/01/2008 13:38
Reading some of your comments makes me feel embarrassed to be South African. Someone who litters has no respect for him/herself other people or the environment - this is just a small step from murdering and raping. Please teach our/your children to respect everything and everyone around them. Moral values should be more than "not getting caught". - Liz |
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Crime and Rubbish
16/01/2008 13:55
Rubbish generates crime. The more rubbish there is, the more crime there seems to be. Compare Jhb with Sydney. - stephenb |
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Start with smoking in public...
16/01/2008 14:06
This is really pathetic if the Police fails to arrest those who choke us everyday with their smoking behaviour then this is way too difficult to enforce... - kolobe |
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@Tomato
16/01/2008 14:14
I am fully aware of the contents of this letter/debate.I was merely stating/mentioning the fact that the writer is concerned about rubbish (excuse the pun)and our concerns are a little more worring. Speaking of dustbins, my mother lives in Broederstroom (otherside Muldersdrift)and she has no 'garbage collection'. She places all the garbage in a pit and burns it !!! - Badger |
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Bev for president...
16/01/2008 14:14
Your Idea "if you have no money on you be given a black bag and a pair of disposable gloves and be made to fill the bag and then tie the top" we have found a solution to this problem thanks BEV you rock girl..I will propose this method to the relevant authorities thanks for your positive contribution.just shows how matured and objective you are..well done - kolobe |
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what I do like is other countries stance
16/01/2008 14:16
regarding dog POOH. all these doglovers walking their dogs and sh*****ing in front of your house on the pavement should PICK IT UP. there as well as on beaches .. - Litter |
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It is a matter of self-respect /first world mentality
16/01/2008 14:34
If I want to dispose of something and there are no dustbins around, I keep it with me until I get home and discharge it in my own waste bin. Once we start thinking like first world citizens, we will start acting like first world citizens.If not, we are doomed in Africa. - Eksnieimorsjorsi |
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Sello...
16/01/2008 14:35
Thank God, fast foods are a no-go zone for me, no wonder I was like candy to all and sundry at the beach this festive season (and I carried my rubbish home) - Wiri |
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Charity begins at home
16/01/2008 14:40
Charity begins at home, after that you bring your habits on the streets. Those are bad manners, I tought my fiance not to throw stuff out of the car window, it is so disgusting. I hope I can pass that lesson to my daughter. Malebza - Lebo |
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