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Got all your facts wrong!
29/01/2008 12:21
?The behaviour of a murderer is surely motivated/influenced by more "serious" factors than a racist orientation (not that racism is not a serious factor)? So, why has the media not focused on those issues?? Wrong question, it?s the police?s work to focus on those ?factors? , not the media?s. Police investigate, and the media report. What do you mean ?the media was one-dimensional??. What is the other dimension apart from racism? Perhaps let?s hear it from you. In every murder, there is only one motive, it?s either theft, robbery, rape, hatred etc. There?s no person who murders for all the above reasons combined, so in this case, the motive was hatred based on race. There?s no rubbish such as ?more serious factors? as you suggest. You are surely not having a good day, are you? - Sello |
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You are failing this, aren't you?
29/01/2008 12:29
?Most reports have portrayed Johan Nel as a racist murderer. And, he may be. But why has the media focused on the apparent racial motivation of his actions?? Another stupid question from you, of course the media can only focus on the motivation of the crime, or would you have liked the media to focus on his love life? Or his performance at school perhaps? Or maybe his rugby or cricket skills? When you kill just for a car, the media can only focus on that act, when you kill for jealousy, the media can only write on that. Johan Nel killed for racial reasons, the media can only focus on that of course, just the same as they focus on tenders when councilors kill each other for tenders. I think you must repeat the writing course for another year, you are doing dismally here, let?s start again, write a better letter and this time work on your logic and facts a little more, this is the simplest test damnit! Go back and write again, and bring your article here when you are done! - Sello |
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Media ethics
29/01/2008 12:31
The media play a huge part in the man on the streets perceptions of events and individuals.We after all rely on them to convey the news to us in an unbiased,independent manner.They have been known however to sensationalise things simply for the sake of selling a few newspapers,no matter how much damage they may do or who they may hurt in the process.Not very ethical behaviour from institutions that should have be responsible in conveying the facts and the truth to their public at all times. - The Truth |
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Media correct
29/01/2008 12:34
There is a general belief in white people that their own are not capable of things like murder, rape and contracting HIV. Therefore when a person like Nel comes to the surface, there are many excuses that try to justify his actions, e.g. he snapped, he was pushed to the limit etc. The boy is a racist and the is no 'perhaps' about it.Fact, white man drives 15Km to the townships, starts shooting randomly at people and doesnt steal a thing. What do you call that, rape? - funnybones |
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What would happen
29/01/2008 12:35
If at the trial of someone who murdered a white family I were to hold up a poster saying "Kill the native"? I bet my bottom $ that I'll get into serious trouble. - Lithium |
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Ethics don't sell papers...
29/01/2008 12:43
It seems that editors need to sell papers at all costs. The fact that racism is stile prevalent in SA is not disputed or new news. Neither the fact that we're trying to overcome all forms of racism. The problem is that the media is not doing any of us any favours in trying to help normalise the situation. Why such a fuss about Skielik? Has farm murders involving rape and brutal torture become too mundane a topic? Disgraceful... - LJE |
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RE: What would happen
29/01/2008 12:45
I agree with Lithium, spot on bud.
Im Indian, and I honestly do not think that this was a race attack... - Sami |
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also strange that the principle of INNOCENT until proven GUILTY
29/01/2008 12:45
only goes for ZUMA and not for NEL? He has NOT even been charged (although I also think he is the killer) BUT he is already presumed guilty and spectators (which I believe are PAID) want to KILL him outside of the courtroom. BUT ZUMA is still INNOCENT -- such a double set of RULES aren't there? - Naly |
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Naive
29/01/2008 12:46
You are naive if you think that the purpose of media reporting is so that men and women can make informed choices. The purpose of media reporting is so that people will watch TV news or buy newspapers etc. The by-product is that we make informed choices (or misinformed choices, depending on the reporting). If the racism aspect is there (which I believe it was), it is going to sell more papers and get more people interested and so will be emphasised. Ethical reporting is not a given - DW |
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bigger reasons
29/01/2008 12:46
There are so many bigger reasons than racism for this murder, but it would not feed the many who crave to play the race card! this is what they live for! Blaming others for their shortcomings! - Big R |
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@funnybones
29/01/2008 12:47
Mr. Notsofunnybones. What you said I would lable as racist. There is no such thing as a general belief that white people believe their "own" kind won't commit crime etc. There'll always be people in denial, but their the minority. Your attitude is part of the great South African problem. Judge people by their own narrow minded views. At least we can agree on one thing - the boy was racist - but wait, now you're going to make another generalisation because I used the word "boy". Get a life. - Smee |
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Other factors....
29/01/2008 12:47
..... such as that a normal human being of any persuasion does not open fire on people for no reason whatsoever. The psychiatrist's report is going to make for interesting reading. Of course, this won't make the 'racist' labelling of these killings go away, despite the fact that this young man is undoubtedly suffering from a severe disorder; it's easier to sensationalise than to attempt to understand. And before I'm labelled racist, I abhor these needless killings. - David |
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Seeking Justice
29/01/2008 12:49
It is amazing that each time a White person kills innocent Black people the matter is rationalised as mental disturbance or social ills and not what it is. For a person who killed innocent people he shows no remorse and knowing that he has done it previously lets give it the merit it deservers that those killing were racially motivated and nothing else I am tired of seeing White people not being held accountable for killing Black people first is was the people who died at the dry cleaners secondly a man being shot allegedly being mistaken for a dog and since when do White people kill pets these people need justice to prevail - Pisst off |
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only one side
29/01/2008 12:50
the murder of so many innocents by Nel is inexcusable. It is wrong in so many ways and if my baby or 10 year old boy was killed like that I would have murder in my heart. We all have the utmost sympathy with the families of the deceased. However - why is it that this event is front page news as a racist attack while there is almost a news black out on farm murders and people being tortured, rape and killed by black people, which in most cases are racist attacks? That is also inexcusable - Susan |
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For Sello and Funnybones
29/01/2008 12:52
I believe the acts of Johan Nel were obviously racist BUT "Kill the farmer, kill the boer" is also racism. Im not looking for an argument just your point of view whether this slogan should be allowed and how you feel about it. - DHV |
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Skielik
29/01/2008 12:54
The whites of this country can learn something from our counterparts - attend court hearings, be vocal, display posters with racists slogans, attend funerals eventhough you did not know the deceased, get politicians to make political speeches and when all else fails - use the race card to the maximum. All South Africans should realize that racism is alive and well and even more visible than before 1994. - Poster |
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Christian murder
29/01/2008 12:54
Why doesn't the media focus on the fact that the killer is a Christian? - Michael |
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Sensationalism
29/01/2008 12:55
I agree the media has done little to ease the tense atmosphere in the area; and unliem some who think the media's only job is to report, there is also an element of investigative journalism that has been failed. The media have hyped this case to sensationalist levels, and the masses have followed.I am not saying what happend is not a tradegy but in that there are certain elements that are more widely reported than others. Racism goes both ways...report that! - Trevor |
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Haibo....
29/01/2008 12:58
So killing black people has now shifted to the ethics and morality of media?? Interested to see how many faceless cowards will comment and follow this line of defense. - Cape Town Kid |
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Really? ....
29/01/2008 13:00
"Perhaps another dimension to this story - like other factors influencing his actions - could have been reported on/emphasised more than the racial undertones." What racial undertones? There are no "undertones" this was, clearly, a racially motivated killing. How are we supposed to deal with the issues if we choose to remain blind to the ugly truth? - BB |
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On a ranking of professions with ethics and morals
29/01/2008 13:02
most reporters rank alongside defence lawyers and politicians,'nuff said. - The Truth |
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Death penalty ????????
29/01/2008 13:04
As much as I believe the murder was racial, I also think that Nel is sick. There are a lot of whites who hate us blacks, but they don't go around murdering anyone. But then again, some people act on their beliefs more than others. I do find myself wondering though why I have not heard cries for the death penalty(much as I don't support it). Is it because as South African we react differently based on the colour of the victims and perpetrators? - Olebogeng |
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and the defense and excuse lines still keep coming
29/01/2008 13:05
Interesting hey, that the same community still is looking for excuses to protect one of its own........ - Henry Haines |
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Lack of Substance
29/01/2008 13:06
I read this article twice and am still struggling to make sense. Is the writer suggesting that such abnormal behaviour should not be exposed by the media? This is a load of hogwash. If a black man picks up a gun and enter waterfront shooting white people only is that not a racist action? such story would deserves the reporting sensation associated with it and there is nothing wrong with that. - mannev |
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funnybones
29/01/2008 13:07
We've covered this in previous topics...You make incorrect generalizations about white ppl, and try to pas it off as gospel truth. Whites have not made excuses for Nel, if you read the previous topics dealing with this subject, you'll see that almost all comments from white ppl condemned Nel's actions in the strongest terms. Get your facts straight...now can we please get some new material to talk about, cos this has been flogged to death already!! - OB1 |
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sello
29/01/2008 13:08
Based on your very impressive command of pidgeon English - I would say that you should work on your own writing skills before criticising others. - anon |
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Funnybones
29/01/2008 13:10
I'm white but Johan Nel should be shot for all I care. I couldn't care of all excuses, the bugger snapped or whatever. If you a criminal, then you have no rights and better putting a bullet in that persons head than me paying for their lavish prison terms. But the media needs to address the correct manners in which they portray the news. When last have we had something really positive from the news that us South Africans can say, "that is great news" and we can feel good about the country? - Win |
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The real reason.....
29/01/2008 13:10
The real reason why the media, and everyone else, is making such a big deal about this whole thing is that it does not happen everyday that a white guy kill black people, as it is not expected. Blacks kill whites everyday, so there is nothing new there to report. - Zorro |
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observation
29/01/2008 13:11
SA society is driven/governed by race issues. Let's accept that everybody is a racist judging people by their shades of white (there are no lilly whites) and their shade of skin darkness (there are no pure blacks either). Maybe the media can start reporting on events referring to the shades of white or black. Could be fun instead of encouraging the divide. - Benzo |
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Objective reporting
29/01/2008 13:23
I fully agree,no on is making excuses for what Johan Nel did,we only ask that reporting on farm attacks,house break-in etc,where the attackers openly express their racist motives receive the same publicity as the Skielik incident. No propoganda is all I ask. - AB |
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@funnybones
29/01/2008 13:24
Where do you get the perception that there is a general belief in white people that their own are not capable of things like murder, rape and contracting HIV? This has to be one of the stupidest statements I have ever heard. Sort of goes along with the belief of SOME sick individuals (I AM NOT GENERALISING here) that raping a 2 year old cures AIDS. And by the way I am WHITE and I do think that that f..ker is a racist b..tard and should rot in jail for the rest of his twisted life. - Mark |
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Sello - Attitude
29/01/2008 13:27
Sorry Sello but you need to relax and realize that not every white person in this country is out to get you. The media do need to report on the motive (racism) but then it needs to be told that there are racists running around outside our courts threatening people in the open and nobody does anything. Like a ?educated? mayor that openly hates white people. Lets rather report that lunatic man kill innocent people and the motivation was race.
I am sorry for what my grandfather might have done, I am here now and I would like to move on and make this country the place for everyone to be proud and for people to respect each other
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I have Black friends
29/01/2008 13:28
Please everyone, lets not have the actions of one IDIOT undermine what 99% of white South Africans want- racial harmony.His deeds was racialy motivated, that is sure, but please do not put all white people in that boat. We live in a fantastic country with a fantastic mix of people who are trying their best to get along and make our country great, lets not have the actions of one FREAK screw this up, please put down those "kill the farmer" posters you are beter than that, arent you? - Eish |
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Think about who you are
29/01/2008 13:29
The same way many blacks (such as these commenting on these columns) label unknown whites as racists, this boy associated unknown blacks with the violence he had suffered.I agree that the time has come to reduce angles on stories where hatred is escalated, and rather handle the stories in a manner that will not further break down the social fabrick between the different cultures in this country. Ethnic groups should never be isolated target, such as the Zulus or boere. Doing this is racism. - JAM |
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SELLO!!
29/01/2008 13:29
Sello, why critisise Bartholomew rather than to comment on the letter ("..must repeat the writing course for another year..")? This is an website to raise an opinion. And don't tell me you just raised your opinion... - knersus |
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It takes a village to raise a kid.
29/01/2008 13:31
I find it disgusting that the media will hang Nel but they are not interested in finding out what motivated him to kill 4 people? That fact that he was a victim of a farm attack at age 11 and attacked by a person with a sickle at age 14 is not mentioned in the English media. Nor do they mention that he watched a TV program on farm killings before this tragic incident. He did not receive counseling after those incidents. It will happen again. What does government do about crime? - Frank |
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Racists
29/01/2008 13:32
The police allow racial hate speech at the court apprearance. Then if 2 days later a farm murder where to occur in the area, I can guarantee you there would be no mention of racism there. No it will just be a simple case of poverty and the usual nonsence given as excuses when white farmers are murdered. Blacks in thsi country are every bit as racist as whites. ( this is of coarse a generalisation ) - Gus |
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CSI for dummies
29/01/2008 13:32
What you all seem to miss is the boy took the trouble to go the settlement to kill people in that place. If it was purely racial, like Barend Strydom and other evil folk, why did he not start with the black farm workers close at hand? Perhaps it had something to do with post traumatic stress syndrome from the farm attacks he had survived. Perhaps he saw the settlement as the source of the attacks and that the only way out (to his damaged mind) was to destroy the "threat"... more than 1 motive? - CSI 101 |
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Nel is a HERO!
29/01/2008 13:38
He did snap because of the racist crimes committed against members of his family! There is only so much a person can take before DOING something about it! - Koos |
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Crime and our kids
29/01/2008 13:38
What do you think is the effect of violent crime on our kids? They grow up with family and friends being killed by savages. Do you really think their experiences will not have a very negative effect on how they perceive people of colour? Is it fair? Of course not but to survive in this country of ours, you have to be suspicious of everyone otherwise you end up dead or raped. - Roger |
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Fair Reporting
29/01/2008 13:38
Murder is murder - whatever the "motivation". This cannot be condoned - whoever did it to whoever. Bur society seems to have created so many excuses as to why people murder....and reasons why the perpertrator should not pay the ultimate price. If you murder - you must forfeit your life, be it by electric chair/hanging/firing squad etc. We will quickly see a reduction in murders. I have never seen someone who has been executed for their crimes become a "repeat offender" - True Blue SA |
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Death Penalty
29/01/2008 13:40
As a white man, may I just say that if it would ease racial tension, I would vote for the Death Penalty to come back and all white murderers be executed first. And I would start with Clive Derby-Lewis. I have no issue with white murderers being executed. If Racial Issues are the only reason for the Death Penalty not coming back, then it is a dumb reason. - niels |
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Agent of Construction
29/01/2008 13:42
Sello, perhaps you missed the intent of the letter. I do not dissagree with the notion that Johan Nel's actions may have been racially motivated. That conclusion can only be finalised at the end of the trial. However, the letter argues for the media to act in a socially responsible way, i.e. to act as an agent of construction. And, this means that it can be true to the facts, yet report on stories in a way that constructs rather than destructs the society that we all want to build in SA. - Bartholomew Bonhoeffer |
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SELLO - YOU ARE THE RACIST...
29/01/2008 13:43
I disagree with blaming the media. It was not them that played the race card, they merely reported it! The usual suspects played the race card i.e. the politicians and the ANC in particular. I agree that Nel is a racist, but the million dollar question is why when so-called whites are killed by so-called blacks (why are we so obsessed with colour?)which happens every day is it not a racist murder, but 'just' another murder. Perhaps if he raped and stole a cellphone then it would be in order. - p123 |
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michael
29/01/2008 13:43
michael you are not borne a christian. if your father is a christian it doesn't make you one. Get a life please - stoney |
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re: Christian murder
29/01/2008 13:46
Michael what can you possibly hope to achieve with a daft comment like that?? - Logic_Bomb |
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Lithium
29/01/2008 13:46
Racially motivated or not - does not matter. This person killed people and should be put to death. But I have to agree that if a white dude had a poster at a black dude murder trial stating "Kill the native, kill the township" or whatever - trouble BIIIG time. So, who is racist now...........?? Often we see these "Kill the Boer etc posters - no-one says a toot. - The Eagle |
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You guys are hypocrites
29/01/2008 13:47
Why can't racism be reported as such. Must corruption be sugar-coated? This was based on race and there was no amount of spin was gona change that. The media was spot on in their reporting on racially motivated shooting. We will always view it as such. This was not an ordinary shooting, it was an all out attack to the black community of Skielik. This boy was waging war. Now you want us to take this light...forget it. Never. - Z |
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LIVING IN LA LA LAND
29/01/2008 13:50
No Bartholomew, you are living in La La land. Yes, the media do tend to inflame things, but this is not the case with the Skielik incident. It was a few uneducated buffoons (supposed community leaders and certain other politicians) who put the racial slant on the incident. The media simply reported the facts as the situation unfolded. What irritates the cr@p out of me, however is the amnesia of certain individuals (with baggage of the past), when it comes to crime in general. For instance, not a single political leader commented on the assault of a Tanzanian diplomat (and friends/family) in Pretoria. The scarey part is that the criminals told the victims that they were ?lucky they were not white?? otherwise the would have killed them. One wonders now what would happen if a bunch of placard carrying whites started demonstrating outside court, when these criminals are brought to book? - yt1021 |
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Sello and Lithium
29/01/2008 13:53
Dude, I'm with you. 100%. Okay dont fall of your chair, because a whitey can agree with you. :)
But Lithium also brought up a very intressting question, when "black people" drive from townships, to "white" areas, where they torture, and kill people. Will it still be racism in the eyes of the media, or will they focused more, if some white people stand there, with poster shouting, "One Native One bullet!" Which side wil be persive as racism, I really like to hear your opinions over this. - padkos |
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CSI 101
29/01/2008 13:56
Spot on my friend,the kid is not a born killer like those savages in prison or still to be caught.He was created by his circumstances and past unresolved traumas (as black criminals are from their "poverty", or so we are led to believe). - The Truth |
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Skielik
29/01/2008 13:56
29/01/2008
Maybe I am a stupid white person, but I would like to know: when a black person breaks in to an elderly white couples home (both 76 years old) and murders them in the most horrific way, and steals nothing, that is called a burglary.
When a white man kills a black man, or as what happened in Skielik, that is a crime against all black people and is always racially motivated.
I am NOT condoning any of these actions, but I would just like to know. - Nick |
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As for whites attending and showing support
29/01/2008 13:56
Sorry to say , We cannot attend courts and strikes and the liking , We do have jobs to attend to. We not all on a permananet holiday and on goverment grants!!! - charlie |
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Zorro's hit the nail on the head!!!
29/01/2008 14:01
You've hit the nail on the head:
"The real reason why the media, and everyone else, is making such a big deal about this whole thing is that it does not happen everyday that a white guy kill black people, as it is not expected. Blacks kill whites everyday, so there is nothing new there to report." - OB1 |
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OK Sello you win
29/01/2008 14:02
OK Sello, if I am correct in understanding your take on this, then you are saying that the media have got this spot on. In this case (following your flawed reasoning), JZ is probably palpably guilty of fraud (for the reasons published in the media). I guess that puts people like Selebi, Yengeni, et al in the same boat. Or maybe no because they are not white? EISH! - PANDA |
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hypocrites
29/01/2008 14:05
i see a lot of white people are saying what about when we get robbed or murdered, question is:does that no happen to black people too and why should we blacks not cry out loud, i used to think Mugabe was wrong in throwing the whites out of Zim,but nw i UNDERSTAND!!!! - LW |
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The racist mob
29/01/2008 14:07
Is it acceptable that a whole mob of people can chant racist remarks and show off placards with racist slogans like 'kill the dog'?
What a great example the ANC MP sets by including hate speech when addressing the victim's family and friends.
Why does Zuma still sing 'where is my machine gun' after 14 years of ANC rule? How does that contribute to nation building and reconciliation? Should I feel part of this nation or feel resentment towards these people? - Frank |
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Christian Murder - Michael
29/01/2008 14:13
Nel - a True Christian...I object, he would not have done what he did if he really had the Love of Christ within his heart. - bekkie |
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DHV & Koos
29/01/2008 14:13
For all those baying for my blood, i stand by my comments. I have also snapped since every white on black killing has always managed to find justification...The racist who dragged his farm worker 15km behind his bakie, the lion murder trial, racist who shot a young boy and mistook him for a dog in Thabazimbi, etc...although many white people admit this is a racial killing, there is alwys a "but".... - Funnybones |
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Where are the facts?
29/01/2008 14:14
Why are we all speculating over Nel's case when we will hear the FACTS from the trail and not sensationalised fiction from the media? I don?t care what my skin colour is ? I LOVE this country ? and it hurts that I am being hated as a ?whitey? due to one mans? actions. - Julius |
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Tackt? Respect?
29/01/2008 14:17
Everybody is entitled to his or her opinion. But Sello, why do you find it necessary to attach and insult the writer? - eb |
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Why is racism not dead yet?
29/01/2008 14:17
The government have racist policies in place to discriminate against certain sections of the population. People feel threatened - not just fearing for their lives but also for their jobs and their future. What happened to a non-racial New South Africa? The media is biased, covering only what is politically correct. - Frank |
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Charlie is a racist!!!
29/01/2008 14:23
Admit it man.Come on.Now Charlie my lad, do not go generalizing.Your brothers are forever asking us not to do this.So please seun,don't make it worse for your racist brothers here.Eish!Charlie!I am black,well educated,have a good job just like you or maybe better and right now,I am looking at the sea and I say to you and your like s@rew you. - Kingster |
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To "JAM" and all the whites that believe Nel snapped
29/01/2008 14:36
Maybe the balck people commiting crime in this country also snapped, after being exposed to apartheid where the perpetrators were white and now being in a free SA and still seeing whites controlling the economy, getting richer, still working as maids and garden boy like back in the days, so maybe just like Nel, blacks also just snapped! and decided the only way we can get some of the wealth is by robbing white people. Think about that! - Mamamia |
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I ask again...
29/01/2008 14:38
If I take my machine gun, leave Mamelondi, go straight to Loftus, Ellis Park or Newlands Stadium during a Super 14 match, will you Nel sympathisers be by my side? Will you want to see less reporting about that in the media? Will that not be a racially motivated shooting? You guys are hypocrites and you should be ashamed of yourselves. It seems death penalty, hell even Courts, were instituted for Blacks here. Damn What happened to the Waterkoof four, Laundry killers, and farmers who kill blacks? - Z |
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One one bullet
29/01/2008 14:47
I find it interesting that sello and the like dont actually respond when questioned on the "reverse racism". What's good for the goose is good for the gander. This question has been raised in other articles too, and still the silence continues. Umshini wam... - celery |
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Let's try and find peace within ourselves.
29/01/2008 14:53
It starts at home. I'm not gonna point fingers at anyone but every parent can easily establish when their child has gone out of the right way. Real parents do not allow their kids to swear and never swear in front of their kids, no matter how small these may be. Outside influence sometimes lead to kids picking up bad behaviour (at school, during play etc.). It is the parents? responsibility to point these out as soon as possible so that the kids know at an early age what?s wrong or right. When these behaviours are left unchecked, they result in some destructive anger in the long run sometimes leading to kids taking responsibility for something that was supposed to be reported to parents and/or the authorities. If parents continue expressing themselves in an unbecoming manner if front of their kids (an example would be a racist talk when the parents have had a few drinks), this builds a sense of hatred in the minds of these kids which gets used recklessly. It can sometimes become a weapon of mass destruction. Some kids waste their lives, unknowingly living in anger because of the indirect influence of their parents. Let?s start building a better life for us all by teaching our kids the values of life and living. If we continue going to bed without saying a prayer as a family; if we continue through the night without a faintest idea where our kids are and what they are doing wherever they are; if we allow our kids to go to parties/night clubs/dance without us present (in anyway) then we are doomed. I?ve not spoken about church here. It?s only basic family values that count first. - Badi |
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To Frank
29/01/2008 14:55
That fact that he was a victim of a farm attack at age 11 and attacked by a person with a sickle at age 14 is not mentioned in the English media. Nor do they mention that he watched a TV program on farm killings before this tragic incident. He did not receive counseling after those incidents. - Good one Frank. Blacks also watched old TV footages of white apartheid police shooting and killing black crowds like birds, and many blacks were physically abused by the white apartheid system too and just like Nel, they never received counseling too. Perhaps they should also go out there in white suburbs and shoot whites too. According to you that?s what people who didn?t receive counseling do, let?s see if you like the idea now. - Sello |
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Blinded
29/01/2008 14:56
It seems to me the white people who responded on this article is blinded by there own racist believes and ideologies ? they refuse to see the facts of the murders and concentrate on things that have nothing to do with the actual murders Nel committed. Yes daily blacks kills withes and that same black person will kill a person of his own race without asking any questions. Both black and white people suffer under the high crime rate in this country and you as white people would like to believe that you are the only targets in these senseless killings. - colin |
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You people are mad
29/01/2008 14:56
Not one white person here has praised Nel or sympathised with him. Everyone has condemned him. Your pure hatred for white people makes you completely onblivious to what is actually being said. You're pathetic - Zoltar |
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Cohen
29/01/2008 15:00
was gunned down on Monday night? How sad is that for a 47yr old successful man.
Why are there no protests, placards and racists comments or even so why has this not made national headlines.Why is ther no uproar about this senseless killing - nav |
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Public does it again
29/01/2008 15:15
After reading the above posts, my faith in the South African public is once again destroyed. People can't even read a simple, unbiased story and converse like adults. Within the first post, we all jump back onto the race cart again and declare war on each other. For the love of God (and humanity), grow up and calm down and deal with this like adults. - Hein |
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We all suffer
29/01/2008 15:32
Nobody here says that black people doesn't suffer under crime. I know they suffer more than whites! We, as peace-loving people, should do whatever it takes to force our government to help us curb all killings. Why do we pay taxes? Our time is running out. Who here wants to see SA look like Kenia? We must act now, we can't wait another year. How many more people will be killed? We do not whant people to lose hope and leave the country in droves or commit senseless killings like Nel! - Frank |
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It was a racist attack not matter how you see it
29/01/2008 15:34
A racist killing is one where the killer was singularly motivated by race in his action, especially the selection of victims. Nel was motivated by racial hatred. This might have been because of the claimed victimization in the hands of black people. His action could be seen as revenge, but instead of attacking those that abused him, he vented his anger on people who shared pigmentation with his attackers. That is racist, whether you like it or not. Motivated by experience? Yes, but racially based - Len |
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