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SAPS
12/03/2008 07:59
Sadly this is the case. Well said! - Reasonable Man |
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Sad but true
12/03/2008 08:04
I dont think all police are disrespectful, you get the odd gems that try their best. But what can you expect when the head of the police is under investigation for fraud and corruption? Now when i have an emergency i call my security company not the police. You call the police emergency number and you are put on hold! We unfortunately have to fork out extra money for protection (in the form of security companies etc). The fact that crime is so high is proof that policing is NOT under control. - Jeni |
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Not ALL r Bad!
12/03/2008 08:05
Why does there always need to be a minority of people in any area of life, that give the rest of either the community, institution- whatever a bad name? I do think there are members of the SAPS that take pride in their career, and feel the way we do when some get out of hand. I've never experienced a raid, however, wonder if the SAPS approached a raid gently, if the community would in fact respect that? I don't agree with harsh dealing of innocent people-perhaps try a slightly different approach? - SS |
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Disrespect and mistrust
12/03/2008 08:06
You say 'if this starts happening'. We are way down that road long ago.Think of the police, Metro or SAPS and you think of futility. - Gray |
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police disregard
12/03/2008 08:06
Last year after my house was burgled, the police arrived, reasonably quickly i must say, but as they left they reversed their van into the gate and twisted the metal so that the gate now doesn't close, they said report it to the station! i did and a year later I'm still waiting. - Eddy |
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Pathetic
12/03/2008 08:08
Mob mentality. Lets face it, with their levels of education, if these cowards didn't have blue uniforms, they'd be rioting somewhere, vandalizing property. The criminal element within the police is so prevalent they should be behind bars. Roughing up women, that's all these idiots can manage. - ian |
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Admission
12/03/2008 08:09
I have to admit that the behaviour of some of our cops has been and will continue to be deplorable. However, the behaviour of our kids at university and high school is even more shameful. That parents turn a blind eye to this thuggery is alarming. They are quick to jump up and down about crime, but often excuse their own brats. - LvH |
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Disband SAPS
12/03/2008 08:12
Like the army, the SAPS is made up of mostly iliterate criminals who otherwise cannot get employment. It is a long published fact that the SAPS recruits iliterate's & has no baseline for the minimum requirements for the job. They do not even do a background check to see if the individual has a record! Community policing forums & security firms are a citizens only "real" hope. I share the writers sentiments that the police be disbanded & the scorpions do the job. - angus |
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Buddy buddy coppers
12/03/2008 08:12
A friend of mine owns a nightclub that he runs as legally as possible. No drugs allowed as well as unruly behaviour. One of his rivals(who is notorious for allowing drugs in his club)was having a drink there one night when he caused some trouble. After been chucked out, he threatened that his friends in the SAPS will close us down. The next evening my friend's club was raided as well as the following two nights, three nights in a row. In light of this, I have empathy with the S'bosch club owners. - Ben S |
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Nothing new
12/03/2008 08:19
Raids like these happened daily in the townships before 1994 and hundreds of young people disappeard forever or detained without trial. The Scorpions had about 300 personnel (heavily armed with assault rilfles) when they raided Zuma's homes and those associated with him. Nothing new really!
Yes the Police service needs to pull up their socks. - Linds |
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Disband cops, not Scorpions!
12/03/2008 08:20
As you know Rikki,theft in SA (Considering the highest levels of Most seriouse and gruesome crimes)is treated as a very minor crime by Police.Our cops have a lot on their hands & lest we not forget what type of incidents they encounter in the line of duty some of which an average Human being can't stand let alone trained trained for such.But like in any other State institutions ,rotten apples will always be there and most unfortunately the whole force will be graded in the same catergory. - Les-Maada |
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Useless
12/03/2008 08:22
The SAPS were useless before 1994 and even more so now - that's why South Africa is the lawless state that it is. Just look around you everyday, the only police visibility are Metro cops who are also alaw unto themselves - I pity this countries future. - rorypff |
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SAPS worse than crooks...
12/03/2008 08:24
Personally, I fear metro cops the most, then the SAPS, with the "real" criminals in third place.
When the foxes (Zuma/Yengeni/Selebi et al) are running the henhouse, what do you expect?
We are screwed, "finish and klaar". - sizonke |
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same as the old days
12/03/2008 08:25
A lot of the arrogant mentality is a hangover from the old days. We've never had a police force that understands the concept of the customer in SA. Many cops have a similar attitude towards women as the Noord St taxi drivers. It's South African culture, the worst place in the world to be a woman. - Phillip |
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well said
12/03/2008 08:25
Well said. And now they want to show off their "power" on soft targets. - chris |
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SAPS
12/03/2008 08:27
I don't think all SAPS employees are bad, but they need to be better paid, given better service conditions and, above all, be allowed to do policing rather paperwork. I also believe they need to be incentivised; i.e. should a case be solved and money/goods recovered or a person sent to jail, then the original arresting officers, plus all others who assisted, should benefit. If SARS can have incentives for meeting targets, why not SAPS? - Dave Robbins |
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Disband SAPS
12/03/2008 08:29
What are you on, what medication are you taking? Where in the world have you ever heared that national policing does not exist and only a special investigation unit is a policcing unit.Dont be misled by the hollywood actors in scorpion, policing work takes more than the odd cases that the scorpions are handling. they may not do it perfectly, but the only thing that we can do to the police is to transform them, not to disband them. - Kingzile |
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Useless
12/03/2008 08:31
Sad but true I'm afraid. We had a tenant steal stuff from our house last year - we ended up laying a charge of theft against him. When my boyfriend went to the police station to follow up he was informed that they could not find the docket. Close to 5 hours later he managed to find it with NO help from the officers behind the desk. Got to love how the just could be asked - to do their JOBS?? - La |
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SAPS...
12/03/2008 08:34
Well said. SAPS needs to be cleaned up. In Africa a policeman has more power than citizens. The same mentality is taking place here. Power with intelect = respect for others. Power without intelect = criminal. - jfky |
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Unpatriotic Nonsense
12/03/2008 08:35
Some of us understands the sacrifices that our police force make, it is almost suicidal to join and serve the police nowadays, the Jeppe?s town police massacre is one example, this people(police) are somebody?s husbands,wifes, daughters and sons. They dedicate their lives for your protection, but how unpatriotic are we to them? They simple entered the bohemia bar and asked everybody to lie down, if we are patriotic, then why these students not lay down. When people are all down then it becomes easy for the police to manage the situation, imagine if someone just took the gun and shot the police from behind, some of you will be crying crocodile tears like you did in the Jeppestown massacre. Let?s make the work of the police easy. Follow reasonable instructions like LIE DOWN.the police cannot afford to lose more lives and therefore I support their methods all the way.. - kolobe(true african patriot) |
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Who is going to slap them ?
12/03/2008 08:36
I have no respect for SAPS as well as Metro at all.From the dealings I have had with them I can not say that one case was treated with decency.Who is going to slap them when they do as they please ? They dont even assist you when you have a problem so how is their senior officers going to decipline them if they cant even do their job correct. They are a desgrace and a waste of my tax money! - Bongani |
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SAP who needs them
12/03/2008 08:40
The SAP are nothing but bunch of thugs in uniform. Thugs and criminals that we have to pay while they abuse their powers and line their own pockets. Get rid of the lot of them and save the country a lot of tax payers money and crime. Show me a good, straight policeman and ....... no you can't. - v |
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Viva Scorpions
12/03/2008 08:41
Government = SAPS = Metro = Corruption = will always be.
Scorpions = less corruption and conviction of main political players = will cease to exist.
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The New S.A.
12/03/2008 08:41
I love my country but it's degrading by the day. There does not seem to be any form of discipline. The children of today are horrors with no manners and uninterested parents. The police are arrogant and above the law. Metro cops sit on the side of the highways and chat while unruly drivers speed past them and swerve from lane to lane to get ahead. There is theft involving horrendous abuse and the politicians sit bickering and fighting as to whole is "the boss". When will it end? - ALS |
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Not this again
12/03/2008 08:49
Ag come on guys not this again, we need fresh topics to debate about, get over it, mourning about it will not change what happened...get a life and focus on it....we all know SAPS is not going anywhere......damn you lot irritate me - Semi |
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What is it with the name calling.
12/03/2008 08:49
Why the hell do you keep referring to Maties as brats? I getting my post grad degree next week from US. I'm a proffesional staying in SA trying to make it better. On my free time from my second year I've been on projects to better SA's clinics (for the poorest of poor). As most Maties I've helped a lot of community projects. And I'm not the exception, I'm the rule. So what that we enjoy a wine or beer in a nice quite place like Bohemia. What have you done to better this country? - For LvH. |
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Kingzile,
12/03/2008 08:50
the police has already been transformed! Look at the topbrass, and you will notice it. Even the "caretaker" commisioner is from MK. He is not a real policeman, he is a politician. - hjs |
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To Kolobe
12/03/2008 08:50
No Kolobe, that is where you are wrong. People join the police force to get access to the kind of power it takes to steal and corrupt. It's all a powerplay to them, usually by the same kind of people who were the school bullies when they were younger. And yes, I serve on my local Police Forum, and I can write a book about all the atrocities committed by the SAP(ex)S. Daily! - Ben S |
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Black and White
12/03/2008 08:53
Visit the UK, US or Australia , the uniformed police are so proud, they look so good you cannot help taking pictures of them. They are well educated and clean cut, they can not only talk with a full vocab, but they can also write, above that they can use computers ... Only when you compare can you see the difference. They serve the people, and are service orientated. Obviously not all but that is the impression you recieve. - DudeRR |
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SAPS today
12/03/2008 08:54
They worked hard to enforce EE in the SAPS. The qualified people left and started private investigation firms etc and were replaced by inexperienced, uneducated cops who at times barely pass their exams. There are still a lot of good full time cops and reservists but unfortunately the guy with whom the public interacts can barely write a report in proper English. I experienced that on a couple of occasions. The police should receive new competent leaders with better funding from the government - M |
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@ LvH
12/03/2008 08:57
Get with the show, all you rabbit on about is brats in varsity, let go. Read the article, we are talking about police here. Riku the past three times that i have been stopped by the men in blue they have wanted nothing but a bribe. Each time i play ignorant and they swiftly urge me to move on. Crazy society we live in here in SA - John Camp |
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More generalizations
12/03/2008 09:01
thats what South Africa needs, always point to the village idiot as the standard bearer for the whole village... Enter Kalobe and Juan to make some form of racist comment and we can rile each other up.... - me |
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Useless SAPS
12/03/2008 09:04
Not all policeman and women are bad. Seems like every Tom, Dick and Harry is becoming a police even though they not capable and competent to do the job. Alot of SAPS officials are overweight and are in desperate need of some physical training. Is there "police academy"? And how do they complete the physical training if their is one? How do they expect to chase and apprehend a suspect when cant put there`re own feet in front of them. And dont even get me started on their incompetence... - Annoyed Citizen |
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Spot on Dave Robbins
12/03/2008 09:04
Paperwork and red tape is fast becoming a problem worldwide. In the UK the average PC spends the majority of his time filling in paperwork to explain why he arrested a drunken abuse lout. It seems that the justice system in most countries are more concerned about the criminal and neglecting the victim. SA is fast becoming one of those countries. - John Camp |
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The other side
12/03/2008 09:05
In the last 18 months I have unfortunately had to deal with the Police four times.Twice it's been an experience that I wish I had never had and twice the service has been faultless.As people we forget to treat others they way we would like to be treated
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Lets do something
12/03/2008 09:06
This is so true - in the past week the light shed on the disgusting service from the police is shocking. 1. The murder of the 7yr old girl - no vehicles and too dark and dangerous. 2. The young guy who was repeatedly gang raped in jail - not allowed his phone call and what was he arrested for? Why are inmates not check on? 3. The raids in stellenbosch - absolutely disgusting. Something needs to be done - suggestions? - Tracy |
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Crime statistics
12/03/2008 09:08
So now we know why the crime statistics are down, the police are discouraging people from reporting the crime at all! Insist on opening a case, then the stats will more accurately reflect the reality. - Michelle |
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SAPS not useless
12/03/2008 09:09
to those who say SAPS are useless stop playing victim get off your butts and do something proactively.yes there are some bad ones but dont generalise.as for the comment of before 1994 cops were better take a look at history SAPs are not throwing suspects from the then John Vorster.REALITY is the SAPS are nothing without the help of the community.stop complaining and do somethin - A proud Reservist |
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SAPS/Metro Police
12/03/2008 09:10
Why on earth do we continue to pay rates and taxes? Local and national government are failing on fundamental areas of service delivery: safety & security, judiciary, health and education! I'm sure we are close to a justifiable and legal situation were citizens can begin to withhold these sources of revenue for government. - Steve |
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WTF
12/03/2008 09:14
Bongani, i think u should move to Orania b'cause u think just like them. i agree with Kolobe totaly on this one. Ya'll a buch of cry babies.Yes there r corrupt police persons, but a lot r doing a lot of good work, but u choose not to see it. Your problem is that u want to have the police as your own personal bodyguard or dog that u can set on anybody u don't like. Do u think all the ppl in prison walked over there and said:"hey, can i get 15 years pls" No!And u Ruki, u'r lying. don't patronise us - zakes |
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police
12/03/2008 09:16
I suspect most of you are city people. On the platteland police are respected and honourable members of the community. Here's a thought: maybe instead of emigrating you guys should move to a small town first and smell the fresh air again. Come on, bring your PC and work from home. - taurus |
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SAPS Today
12/03/2008 09:16
There is no pleasing every body in this counrty the SAPS have their corrupt cops, as too are there corrupt Lawyers, and Accountants etc to say that all cops are lazy, corrupt, thugs is just so unfair. Yes corruption is huge in this Country but to label everyone in this country as corrupt would not be fair either - There are honest decent Policemen out there I know my husband is one. - Honey Bun |
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To protect and to serve our own interests
12/03/2008 09:17
I must admit, the police today are incompetent. You have about 10 % of the police force that knows what they are doing and then the other 90% are there for a paycheck. The government is not helping at all. Take for example; they posted a lot of black policemen in the rigtersveld and west coast communities. These policemen can?t speak a word of Afrikaans but they are in stations that serve only Afrikaans communities. The saying in that part of the world is that English is not a second language, it is a foreign language. How is this aiding against fighting crime or serving the community when the cop behind the desk can?t understand you. This is the biggest problem in the police force. In the name of EE the community must suffer. Undeniably you thus have to reach the conclusion that government acts for its own selfish agendas and not for the communities. - CH |
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police disregard
12/03/2008 09:17
I dont mind the police. I just want a new gate. - Eddy |
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Old SA New SA
12/03/2008 09:21
Since the old SA blacks did not trust the police. In the new SA whites do not trust the police. So no one trust the police! - Martin |
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Privatise please!!
12/03/2008 09:22
Why don't we just privatise the entire police force? Everything run by the government is corrupt or mismanaged. The leaders of all government institutions are there because of their political affiliation and not performance. In a private environment this would never ne allowed. You have to perform or you get the boot! - Vernon |
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METRO public enemy No. 1
12/03/2008 09:23
SAPS public enemy No. 2. They only exist to perpetuate themselves and the only interest the people of South Africa have for them is in how much they can extract from the people. - lizzie |
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To Kolobe
12/03/2008 09:24
Another person in DENIAL and thinks that there is nothing wrong with the state of the police and our country.Stop living in dream world Mr True African Patriot - Realist African |
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BenS
12/03/2008 09:25
"I serve on my local Police Forum, and I can write a book about all the atrocities committed by the SAP(ex)S. Daily! - Ben S" IF THIS IS TRUE SHAME ON YOU FOR NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!! YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN WHAT THEY ARE. - Jozzi |
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Give SAPS credit
12/03/2008 09:25
All of you that are calling for SAPS to be disbanded maybe we should invite SAPS to disband your asses with sjamboks...this people require more resources like the scorpions..why not give them credit.. - kolobe |
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No benchmarking
12/03/2008 09:27
The majority of our cops are all ex freedom fighters with no education. How do you expect them to perform and give a reasonable service. And then you call for them to be better paid. Imagine paying someone a huge salary for doing nothing. What we need to do is to benchmark our cops according to international standards. So many arrests per month, so many convictions etc. If not get rid of them. Thios would improve productivity and generally improve service delivery. - LJB |
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Police raids
12/03/2008 09:30
Kolobe, I don't think you would feel the same way if you were there and your wife was sexually violated while the cops "searched" her. I agree, the police should raid and if they tell you to lie down then you do. However to physically assualt and molest innocent people is not acceptable! - Whatever |
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No longer a calling!
12/03/2008 09:31
Becoming a policeman, teacher or nurse used to be a calling for most people in the good old days. Since 1994 and so-called "transformation", the SAPS has become a haven for ex MK terrorists ... and that includes the top brass. Is it any wonder that almost all the good cops have left the service? It is no longer a calling! - CT Boykie |
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Lenvh
12/03/2008 09:33
dude, you are so bitter against students having fun its scary, you know no one in stellenbosch so why do you only have contempt for them? cause you hate people who enjoy life, thats why - Ricky James |
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O Kolobe, just wake up.
12/03/2008 09:37
I'm so glad I'm not your wife or daughter, I wonder if you would sing the same song if it was one of them being pawed, or pepper sprayed while on the ground by these good for nothing idiots. It?s easy being Mr tough guy amongst a couple of harmless students. It's time people like you learn that respect should be earned, and by the current state of crime in this country one can't help but to have absolutely no respect for your beloved corruption, sorry I mean police force. - Helpus |
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Not all bad!
12/03/2008 09:38
I was involved in a incident and the police men and woman from Milnerton police station did a exceptional job helping me. I have never seen such good service and I do believe that it all starts at the top. The Commissioner of Milnerton runs a tight shop and therefore his staff are very professional and did their jobs well. I think their is no discipline in SAPS and that is why their is bad elements surrounding what they do. - Tyron |
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Disband everything
12/03/2008 09:39
I think both SAPS and scorpions have failed to perfom thier duties according to the mandate given. My suggestion will be the formation of a whole new kind of policing. The one that will follow policies and regulations, that will not serve the interest of the few and saccumb to bribes.
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Democracy and Protection
12/03/2008 09:44
I agree with a lady's opinion read on
sabc2 this morning. Stop paying our taxes and take over this sick, country with its murderous, malicious and inhuman society... of course not all of us. Start our own policeforce, bring back the death penalty, police the streets at night and give back our guns.
Where do the criminals get their guns. Those who have never been touched by brutal crime have no say in this matter. The law does not protect us..we have to. I'm just so sick and tired of death. - Aicia |
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Statistics
12/03/2008 09:52
Now you know why the stats say that crime is down...cops convince the public not to open a case, therefore the theft is not included in the stats. INSIST on opening a case and get a case number. I know it goes into a bottomless pit, but if the computer is ever found (wishful thinking) how are they ever going to get it back to the rightful owner? I would throw my toys if they told me not to open a case, make no mistake! - DW |
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Helpus
12/03/2008 09:52
they pepper sprayed this woman because she was standing and spewing insults at the Police..she was suppose to be quite and lying down...then the police pepper sprayed her..listen to instruction carefully...please lie down the police requested..but this spoiled brads refused.. - kolobe |
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Sad
12/03/2008 09:55
And then there was the story of the police station in Berea Durban who hired a secuirity company to look after the station. I would be laughing if it all was not so sad. - David |
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You know things have gotten out of hand when
12/03/2008 09:56
perpetrators of violent crime (assault and indecent assault) get away with a simple R500,00 admission of guilt fine. This is what happened to 2 workers of mine recently - they paid their fines with a smile. Nou wat nou? Do you then expect that the saps should behave any differently? And Kolobe get a refund on your school fees (poor grammar, etc), get a life and Hari Krishna to you too! - yt1021 |
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We got the same...
12/03/2008 09:57
..response when our home was burgled and we had no insurance. The cops persuaded us not to open a case as we would not get our belongings back. MMmmmmm, do I smell dictatorship ???? Police State ??? or just plain laziness cause they know it is a black mark against that station should they not solve the case. - Badger |
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Can't win
12/03/2008 09:57
Last year a cop car swerved(to avoid hitting a taxi which slammed on brakes)in front of my husband and he hit the car in the back.The taxi driver was charged with negligent driving, but the cop had not left a safe travelling distance so that he could stop on time, so he had to swerve.Now they are trying to claim from OUR insurance as,if you hit someone in the back,you are at fault.Nothing gets said about him not using indicators or checking to see if it was safe to change lanes. - DW |
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Democracy and Protection
12/03/2008 10:02
1. I think large-scale corruption is just as serious as violent crime because it robs our soceity of the ability to cure our ills, including the ills that cause crime.
2. We cannot disband the SAPS but it is terrible that they have a worse record than the Scorpions.
3. A comprehensive action plan against crime is needed - see the death penalty thread.
4. Death penalty is no use in a very imperfect legal system. The innocent (you) will end up on death row and the criminals will judge them. - Pieter Joubert |
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do policing ourselves
12/03/2008 10:09
i agree with Aicia. I actually thought about it sometime ago. People in a neighbourhood should protect their specific hood. if criminals come in the to the hood, people can do what they want to those criminals. it will send a strong message. Some of the people I work with tell me that is what they often do in the townships because the cops are useless and by the time it gets to court the ineffeciencies in the system don't make it worthwhile carrying on. - Bruce Johnson |
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SAPS is not all that bad
12/03/2008 10:12
and saying they must be disbanded is not a practical solution. Would the scorpions get this much support from the white community if they were charging Zille instead of Zuma?
Anyway the Scorpions should be left alone and the Police better managed by a corrupt free commissioner with no political ties. - tshepo |
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Get over yourselves!
12/03/2008 10:12
If there's 1 thing i'd appluade white ppl on, is how they can bad mouth everything that the current gov is in charge of.there's a lot of good police work, and 90% of u have never had a bad experience with the police. I've had a lot of bad, n i mean really bad experiences with white policemen when I was a student in Pretoria, n alot of black students r still harrased by white policemen.This is noting more than a black n white thing again. Support the poilce, n you'll see a lot of good change - zakes |
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Kolobe, again
12/03/2008 10:16
Agree to disagree. Unlike you I don?t have respect for police that pawed and push innocent civilians (girls), because they?re too scared to tackle real criminals, even if these civis are "spoiled brats". Do you respect idiots that do stuff like this and: http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2280119,00.html
If it?s ok with you when these people can do what they want and maybe one day do this to your wife of daughter than please check your moral compass. - Helpus |
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Quit Moaning
12/03/2008 10:17
This is nothing new really, during the old days Cops used to manhandle people both men and women alike. No one complained when this was done in the townships by white "educated" cops. The fact is, when u do not cooperate they can use force, that is what a raid is all about. There are good cops n bad cops out there, quit moaning, quit turning this into a race problem and do your part or shut up about it. I know some good dedicated cops who've lost their lives protecting us. - Shaz |
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Quit Moaning
12/03/2008 10:17
This is nothing new really, during the old days Cops used to manhandle people both men and women alike. No one complained when this was done in the townships by white "educated" cops. The fact is, when u do not cooperate they can use force, that is what a raid is all about. There are good cops n bad cops out there, quit moaning, quit turning this into a race problem and do your part or shut up about it. I know some good dedicated cops who've lost their lives protecting us. - Shaz |
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police service
12/03/2008 10:20
Robbed of cellphone in central Joburg. Cellphone not insured! Did not bother to go to the police to stand in the queue and wait for a police person trying to improve his/her writing skills. - Benzo |
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@ No benchmarking-LJB
12/03/2008 10:21
"The majority of our cops are all ex freedom fighters ..."
What a load of muck, do you guys think before you spew out this kind of rubbish? or are you just pulling that "fact" out of your ... - Gonzo the one |
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Badger, Riku and others: Lame Ducks
12/03/2008 10:22
Sorry skatties, but not reporting crime is a no-brainer. This is why twits like TM, Charles Ngakula and others say "Crime? What crime?" Also, how do you know that these particular saps were not in cahoots with the burglars? Sorry, but if you will not report the crime, you have lost the moral high ground to complain about the saps. - bokkie |
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Stellenbosch
12/03/2008 10:27
It seems that the pubs in Stellies that were raided were a little fuller than we may think given all the opinions that are being aired. It's amazing that an element of this comment group even know what the dialogue was. - John Camp |
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Don't be shocked Riku
12/03/2008 10:29
Be realistic.We have so called govt who when they came to powa the first thing they did was to change the sap to saps and sprayed the cars a different colour because most of the previously and still disadvantaged/oppressed citizens of this country psycologically refered to the police as the oppressors which they were.Since then nothing has changed.You cant blame the police they represent the anc.The fish always rots from the head. - psycobabble |
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Thank you
12/03/2008 10:34
To those honourable men and women in blue, I say thank you for the sacrifices that you are making, for putting yourself in danger so that my tv and hi-fi can be protected. Thank you for paying the highest price that I may watch my soaps and be with my family while you are out and about. To those cops- keep up the good work, especially M.E. - Bokkels |
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Education
12/03/2008 10:40
The sad part is that most of those Policeman don't even know what that 'code of conduct' means!!
Education!! And they constantly on the defensive due to that!! - PD |
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they can`t even write
12/03/2008 10:40
a lot of them can`t even write a docket,they bungle cases.know nothing about human rights.the gvt should introduce high standards for entry into the SAPS.requirements for entry are simple,anybody can join the SAPS.i wonder what they teach at six months training.
- donald mogotsi |
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The African way...
12/03/2008 10:43
First step would be to fire Charles Ngakula for non-performance & for allowing a number of draconian pieces of legislation to become law that clearly violate constitutional rights. Our constitution is a bit of a joke, because it's only invoked/enforced when it serves the needs of govt. Yes, we live in a "healthy African democracy" ie. a police state! We don't have rights, we have privileges, given at the whim of those in power. Mass action, people, if for once we can find our backbones & unite. - Clint |
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SAPS are useless
12/03/2008 10:50
That is such a well written article and one i am sure 95% of south Africans agree with. I left the country cause of them, no other reason. What I wouldn't give to be back in durban, but it's unfair to bring my daughter up in a prison cause the SAPS can't do their jobs. I know it must be tough for them and stressful, but when they refuse to come out to an armed robbery cause no one is hurt, it B#llsh#t. When a man armed with a knife entered my home, I was the one arrested for assulting him,not him - shaun |
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Where have all the good policemen gone?
12/03/2008 10:52
Many of my friends are ex-police officers.
Most of them left the force due to AA & discriminatory policies. They now run their own security and VIP protection companies and getting paid hundreds of thousands of rands to protect the exceptionally wealthy ppl visiting this country. Each and every one of them are prospering like never before! What's left of "the force" is a joke! - Ernst |
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Whateeeever
12/03/2008 11:04
Police are only corrupt because they are offered bribes. Deal with your own self importance first then blame others. - Point Blank |
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They are fat and lazy!!
12/03/2008 11:07
They are very quick to take your money, but when you actually need help they are NEVER there!!! The SAPS is owned by the ANC! FACT! Therefore why they are so incompetent!! Sad state of afairs!! - Big R |
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no smoke without fire!
12/03/2008 11:09
I find it intersting how people are quick to judge cops,when they themselves are somewhat responsible for the corruption.Who exaclty is bribing them in order to beat a rap.i.e traffic offences,drunk driving.Face it every citizen has a role in all this. - tamatie |
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Respect
12/03/2008 11:10
I had respect for our SAPS till last Friday.
Very sad to say that I do not any more. Sorry boys, you brought it on your selfs. - Kaas |
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Copsmust feel proud
12/03/2008 11:12
I hope the cops now feel proud of their actions now after all these comments and that the whole world saw the CCTV video clip. - chris |
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Those were the days..!
12/03/2008 11:13
In the 1960's and 70's I grew up as a policeman's child on the platteland. My fathe |
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