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Good arguments made
17/03/2008 08:55
While I do not subscribe wholly to all of Lize's viewpoints, and while I'd be more wary of papers selling rosier scenarios than actual ones, she makes a number of very good and valid arguments, backed up by some research (as opposed to mere emotion). Good on you, Lize. - Jaco |
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Good arguments made
17/03/2008 08:59
While I do not subscribe wholly to all of Lize's viewpoints, and while I'd be more wary of papers selling rosier scenarios than actual ones, she makes a number of very good and valid arguments, backed up by some research (as opposed to mere emotion). Good on you, Lize. - Jaco |
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We can reverse the spiral of negativity
17/03/2008 09:00
Quite right Liza, but then bad news is what sells copies ? and that?s the reality about what drives the content in the media. We, the general public, are often just as guilty as the media. For example, look at the content of my.NEWS24 last week and you will see that the majority of letters all had a negative spin. Respondents use the forum to vent their prejudices and seldom provide any positive comment, hence exacerbating this negativity. How about we declare this positivist/anti-prejudice week and see how many GOOD and POSITIVE comments we can send out there? Just an idea! - mikehunt |
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Its your choice
17/03/2008 09:04
Or better yet- Dont buy the newspaper or watch the news if you don't want to see anything negative, cause it aint gonna change! - AB |
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SPOT ON
17/03/2008 09:04
The press is very much against anything positive about RSA even before the election(1994) they were so negative and stirring up hatred and fear amongst whites to an extent that whites were stockpiling fearing the end of them.The same medialaughed at them calling them racist who fear change.They (media)are really pathetic. - scorpion |
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SA.......
17/03/2008 09:05
SA is still turning into a typical African Country where crime controls all, the goverment is full of criminals. SA africa is No 4 in the world with murders, the top three are most likely WAR torn countries ( We Not). "Australia has the highest burglaries and car thefts per capita in the world", are they being killed or raped for there cars, NO. - guess |
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Could not say it any better
17/03/2008 09:06
I totally agree. Should one not open a Naspers newspaper or website for a week or so, it feels like one has moved to another European country/Australia already. The Afrikaans media in this country has only one objective - to stir shit. If they cannot find enough shit, they invent it.
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Spin
17/03/2008 09:11
Adding positive spin to news will not change the reality of serious structural problems in South Africa, namely desperate poverty, absurdly violent crime, and a return to race as a yardstick for decision making by the government. None of the positives you mention above can outweigh these negatives. Perhaps the press can help bump the politicians and leaders out of denial, which will be the start to recovery. - Jan |
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I agree!!
17/03/2008 09:11
I have been having the same line of thought for quite some time. The SA newspapers, and especially the Afrikaans newspapers, are sensationalizing many of the headline stories they cover. I would also put a lot of the current negative sentiments in our country squarely on the shoulders of the local editors. The problem is that this is the only newsfeed that a lot of people on the street receive. No wonder some of the people on these blogs are so damn ignorant. - pietpompies |
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Doom and gloom
17/03/2008 09:11
I could not agree with you more. It seems as if SA newspapers do not believe that there can be good news in SA. When the baggage theft happened in OR Tambo for example, we never got comparison with other airports in order to make comparison. I am not saying baggage theft is right but we need more balance reporting. More research into a topic.When the president highlighted this fact he was rubbished by the newspaper editors/columnists. Thanks for the informed article. - Pasta |
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What's positive?
17/03/2008 09:16
What's positive about reading about a 61 year old frail woman who was burned with a clothes iron, had her fingers broken, stabbed repeatedly and raped? We are not talking about petty crime here, we are dealing with viscous racist murderers who think it's OK to prey on old folk. - Nick |
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Good news is no news
17/03/2008 09:16
At last, someone with some perspective on the world! It just proves once again that the media is only succeeding in polarizing our Nation against each other, instead of being responsible corporate citizens with the goal of strengthening our country's image, both locally and abroad. I am not saying that we only need to see a rosy picture in the papers, but a balanced view will go a long way to strengthen our resolve in the face of adversity. - Frustrated |
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I fully agree
17/03/2008 09:17
Lize, I fully support you. I am so fed up with reading and hearing BAD news, that I actually limit reading and watching the news. It sometimes seems as though the media want us to immegrate. We all know what the situation in the country is, therefore we need some GOOD news and perspective to at least try and give us (and our children)hope!! - Isabel |
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marketing strategy
17/03/2008 09:17
south african press is more on negative actions for sales figure,look at daily sun is reporting about witch craft,and this other stupid things,and is the best selling daily news paper in south africa, also it tend to be a marketing startegyfor the press to write nagirtev becuase more people are interest in negatives than positive,made see this as advantage to them.so please editor build this nation,give hope to the citizen of this country, - vts |
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If the shoe fits.........
17/03/2008 09:18
Who gives a damn about what happens comparitively in other countries? What matters is what is happening on our own doorstep and it needs to be reported. Does it make it any less important because we are no. 4 on the murder list? I bet that the first three do not have the tortue and cruelty that comes with SA murders! - Zoltar |
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Media condones racism indirectly
17/03/2008 09:18
I believe the that negetive reporting can either be desructive and constructive,we need editors who can strike the right balance.
I like it when they expose the criminals,corrupt government officials etc,but yes it is true that half of the time the media does corrupt us in thinking that whites and blacks will need accept each other. - Ledombolo |
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Hear hear!!!!
17/03/2008 09:18
Well said!! - Big R |
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Very one-sided
17/03/2008 09:19
Why don't you check the Wording in the Sowetan as well? What about the KOVSIE reporting? WHITE STUDENTS in RACIAL HATE-VIDEO?? Why is it always negative when it is the other way around? It goes both ways. And please leave the Afrikaners and Afrikaans alone. Read your English or political-correct newspapers and never forget the Anglo Boer War, you are not as innocent as you pretend to be! - Afrikaner and not ashamed |
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SA the place I Love!
17/03/2008 09:21
I agree with you 100%. We need to challenge ourselves to not just read and believe, but read and THINK, then decide whether to believe or not. Not just blindly following like sheep. Gavin - Gavin |
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17/03/2008 09:21
Aus def of a car theft is stealing a car and then driving it till the petrol runs out...There is no black market demand for stolen cars or goods...and their neighbours aren't dictators or war ridden left overs...so pls get ur facts straight and apply them in context... - Masti |
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Have you checked English newspapers?
17/03/2008 09:22
have you checked the wording in the SOWETAN lately or is it only the Afrikaans newspapers that is (according to you) biased? Open your eyes, reality is around you, racism is everywhere, crime is everywhere and it needs to be reported on, whether you like it or not! If Skielik and Kovsies could be on the front page for WEEKs, so can this POLICE BRUTALITY!!! Get all criminals out of the system! - Jane |
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Whinging Seth Africans
17/03/2008 09:22
I'm not a South African. I live here by choice. There is nothing more depressing than going to a braai and listening to a bunch of white south Africans do thier thing...moan, moan, moan. No not all of them. I find that the bigger the moaner the more ignorant and naive they tend to be. You would think our problems only happen here and no where else. White South Africans just don't get it...in my opinion. - phillip |
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Safety most important
17/03/2008 09:23
I want to know the most important news. For me that is my family's safety and crime affects that. Although you make some good points, I cannot think that ignoring the truth is a solution. Furthermore, I don't agree with any stats coming from this government. All I know is that lots of my friends including myself has been a victem of crime. Something 99% of people in other countries can't say - Justin |
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Oil on the fire!
17/03/2008 09:25
For many people it is only oil on their perspective fire! We are the one's who can change all that. Don't you agree. Stop pointing fingers and rather move them bringing the respective transgressors to justice and most important use the greatest weapon to your disposal. God is only a prayer away and waiting! - Martin |
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Brilliant
17/03/2008 09:25
Lize, this is easily the most balanced and well-thought out article I've read on these forums. The R500 prize should be yours by default. I completely agree with the points you raise above. Very well done. - VLS |
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You know what they say about investors
17/03/2008 09:26
if people talk about a negative wave its already too late to get out of the market. So yes, negative publicity is bad for this country. But we should not hide the fact that people are being tortured and killed for next to nothing all over the country just for the sake of investors. Awareness towards crime is the first step to combating it. Sweeping things under the rug will not help us one bit. We get enough propaganda on SABC channels. - M |
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poor reporting all round
17/03/2008 09:28
once you take a look at reporting in other countries you realise how shocking the SA situation is... its not just that all news seems to be bad, the story arc is never followed. So for instance, the crime is always reported, but then we never find out if they catch the guys. Or we find out about a shot cop, but then never hear if he recovers or dies. Some corruption is identified but then we never find out what happens to the perpetrators. We are kept in the dark... - baker |
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Hear hear...!
17/03/2008 09:29
As long as something positive is at work in the background to diminish the actual evil. Otherwise the cover-up of bad with good will only last until the kettle burst into flames. I do believe the good are struggling to keep head above water, but after gaining momentum will soon be strong enough to stay above without too much trouble. - ElectroMan |
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You suggesting Censorship?
17/03/2008 09:29
I think the media has the RIGHT to report on serious crime. The pathetic government we have must be exposed to the rest of the world! People travelling to SA should KNOW about the potential rape and murder they face here. You simply cannot suppress the truth!!!
People being tortured to death is a REALITY and not some false story being made up by 'afrikaans newspapers'! - Juan |
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both sides of the coin
17/03/2008 09:31
it is because the Truth hurts hey? It is nice to believe it is only white students (Kovsies) and white boys (Skielik) who do things to blacks, the other side of the coin starts to feature now, and now you want to make them quiet?? TRUTH HURTS, report on ALL RACISM in SA, white on black AND black on white! GET IT RIGHT! - Josie |
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Excellent!
17/03/2008 09:31
I coudn't agree with you more. - t |
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Ignorance is bliss!
17/03/2008 09:31
Ignorance is bliss! You are right! Lets celebrate the fact that our murder rate is now 4th WORST! YAY! break out the champagne!
Australia get broken into too. Great, that makes us feel much better.
Do you know how many murders and break in don't get reported on by the press?
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the SA governement...
17/03/2008 09:32
....has been trying for years to present the positive news: booming economy, HIV/Aids not such a problem, crime not too bad, corruption under control.......until the lights went out, the potholes got bigger and even the President is fingered for corruption. On top of that, the sun has not been shining for three days!!!!!We do indeed need a good news newspaper. - Benzo |
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What is your agenda?
17/03/2008 09:35
Lize, your arguments are weak. It is absolutely important that the media keeps the issue of crime on the front page, especially in the context of a government who has failed to take adequate measure to combat it. What is the point of saying that SA is now nr 4 in murder rates, without listing those countries with higher statistics? And even if we were no 10, what is happening is unacceptable. We need more attention drawn to this, not less. Presenting only a rosy picture will not benefit abybody - GRBoy |
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Better to lie???
17/03/2008 09:35
Would it suit you better if the newspapers dish up a lot of lies? Would it suit you better if they would all swept the crime, murders, rape and violence under the carpet, painting a ROSY picture for the whole of SA??? I can just read the headlines..." What a peaceful country SA is.." Be real, Lize! This is what is going on in SA! We have the right to know about it so we can make informed decision! I can't believe that someone with a brain can argue like you just did!! - Ruby J |
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Prophets of doom and gloom
17/03/2008 09:36
Lize I can agree with u more. U r definitely on the money with this one. This is so sickening - even the news from the Free to Air TV are so negative 2 that i stopped watching their news. I remember when the house at N2 Gateway were issued out ETv was no were 2 b found. Guess who was there 1st during the residents riots. And they close their news wit an animal from offshore that performs maricles. Seriously - it disgusts me. - Malebza |
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BE OBJECTIVE
17/03/2008 09:37
GOOD ARTICLE LIZE ? I agree 100% with you. The main purpose of the press is to inform the public by giving them all the facts ie being objective and give both sides of the story rather that being emotional and report on a personal point of view. - colin |
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Are you suggesting journalists LIE?
17/03/2008 09:39
So you are suggesting that journalists lie then?
SHould they write that there is NO load shedding? That the cirrpution case against JZ was a april fools joke? That HIV does not really exist? You suggesting people write lies just to make this country 'look' better, even though its going to hell? OR should the papers reflect what is REALLY going on here? - Juan |
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QUESTION
17/03/2008 09:41
The question we as the public need to ask is how much of what we see in the press in TRUE and to what extend are we as the public misled by the press. - colin |
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Agree and Disagree
17/03/2008 09:42
I agree with you, SA news papers are reporting negatively, and also, using unnamed sources as fact far to many times, but i also look at foreign sites, and they use any murder a lot more, than SA's newspapers. A women burned with an iron and killed will be placed on page 4 with us already. Things are bad in SA, and saying they aren't won't make things better. Also, note on Australia, they crime rate increased since SA citizend immigrated there, tells you something doesn't it - Dawid |
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I Disagree
17/03/2008 09:42
Liza, last week Thursday I personally witnessed a smash and grab involving the car directly infront of me. I was mortified. There was nothing I could do. If I got out to chase the guy who knows where his "buddies" were hiding ready to ambush a daring do-gooder. So take your stats and your hippy hug-a-tree mentality and open your eyes to the horrible reality that surrounds you! - MP3 |
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Truth hard to hear?
17/03/2008 09:44
Im not interested in the car theft rate in Oz or the murders in Columbia. Im interested in the violent way in which crime is carried out HERE, in my own backyard. While some headlines may be emotive writing (even positive ones are) the stories are real and very relevant. Instead of worrying about the way media reports you should worry that there are these kinds of things to report at all! - Mike |
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DONT SHOOT THE MESSENGER!!
17/03/2008 09:45
This morning on news24.com there was an article about a woman that was raped, burnt with an iron all over her body, and stabbed to death. OK, now PLEASE tell me, HOW do you put this 'into perspective'? HOW do you put a positive spin on this?? Unfortunately THIS is what's happening in SA and the press merely reports on this!! Don't shoot the messenger!!!!!! - Juan |
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Good points, it's like the DA saying the transport
17/03/2008 09:46
department underspent by 94% when in fact that % is only 0.06% of the total transport budget and that money only reflects as such because it hasn't been transferred from the national treasury to the provincial treasury at the request of the audtor general. Some people go all out to mislead the public. - tshepo |
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Australian crime???
17/03/2008 09:48
You say Aussie has the highest per capita of burglaries and car theft? WOW! I must be living elsewhere then. The TV Networks recently showed a "Dramatic Robbery at a Service Station" recently. The guy came in with a knife (I swear it was a butter knife without even a serrated edge) waved it about and demanded money. When the manager refused, he grabbed a bag of sweets off the counter and ran away. We all burst out laughing and our Aussie guests were quite offended. Aussie crime vs SA crime? Pff! - KevinBrisbane |
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Whats important.
17/03/2008 09:48
Whats important in life is LIFE. South AFricans need to be made aware of the crime statistics at all times!! Whether we are 4th or 400th in the world for that matter is irrelevant. The crime in South Africa is inbred into the majority of the human race. Fact...accept it and deal with it. - denzil |
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Perspective
17/03/2008 09:48
I disagree. These things need to be sensationalised so that we stop the current desensitisation that is happening in society. As things happen more and more they become part of society. If we tone down the messages on crime then they become part of the accepted norm, "accept it and learn to live with it". What rubbish. None of it should ever be acceptable. - Richard |
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No Hope
17/03/2008 09:49
And another thing, there is no hope for this country. We WILL end up being worse off than Zimbabwe, it's just a matter of time. - Zoltar |
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SABC is the bringer of Good news and other spin
17/03/2008 09:51
It is the duty of the press to report accurately on the mess we are in. Leave the spin to the government and its SAVC - WoeBEToUs |
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Australian crime???
17/03/2008 09:51
Sure there is crime in Australia. Sure Australia has lots of problems. But not 1 of them is bad enough to send me back to Africa. - KevinBrisbane |
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My beautiful country.
17/03/2008 09:51
On Friday, I might have agreed with you, but hearing last night of the brutal murder of two wonderful, giving, loving and peaceful elderly people in Somerset West, makes it very diffucult. Unfortunately the papers are a true reflection of what is happening. In the NP days, they ruled the press, and we like idiots, believed that everything all was fine. Our friends and families overseas told us about atrocities. No, this is SA today, face facts...horror upon horror. God Bless SA. - Alicia |
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Lize
17/03/2008 09:51
Just wait for hate mail for your stand on this matter.I usually try my best to read foreign newspapers and i discover that the same problems that we have here exist elsewhere.There was an article in News24 sometime ago concerning falling healthcare in the UK,how patients were dying because of lack of care in govt hospitals.Youth crime in the Uk is well known.Electricity problems are not unique to SA.But it's a waste of time to argue,i'm not saying it is right,just that the whole world immoral. - Godfrey |
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True but....
17/03/2008 09:51
The sad thing is that there is absolutely nothing that we can do about it. The media only have their profits to look after and not tyhe well fare of the people. Oliver - oliver |
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SABC is the bringer of Good news and other spin
17/03/2008 09:51
It is the duty of the press to report accurately on the mess we are in. Leave the spin to the government and its SABC and Miranda Strijdom - WoeBEToUs |
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Pessimistic
17/03/2008 09:54
We are so pessimistic that we couldn't see that the economy would outgrow the need for more power stations. Hence the problem with Eskom. - chris |
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Head in the sand
17/03/2008 09:55
I think Lize and a few other commenters have their heads in the sand. Be realistic, this country is no picnic anymore. Cheers, I'm outta here. I'll be reading the forums from the safety of New Zealand shortly. - Stephen Gold |
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Doom and Gloom
17/03/2008 09:55
Whatever the news, it should be reported, and that means the good and the bad. But report it accurately! I agree with Lize - it seems that the newspapers focus on the bad things that happen because it sells. Does not say a helluva lot about us a "human" race, does it? - Dave Robbins |
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PATRIOT
17/03/2008 09:56
Well done Mam for exposing the prophets of doom, in the bible such prophets, were killed for misleading the nation. I refer to them as people with "spiritual knowledge of the World". Only God can help us defeat crime, that means we must turn to him for help. If you rate SA as highest crime/murder capital then the DEVIL must've left europe/US/ASIA and is living in SA. What a joke!!!!!!! - Tabza |
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Phillip?
17/03/2008 09:56
It seems you need to find some new friends... - Nick |
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CRIME...
17/03/2008 09:58
SA has a high crime rate,no question about that,but the way the news is presented in the media, you'll think the whole country is engulfed in crime,while crime is mainly concentrated around GP,KZN & the WC.I have lived in different provinces & I know that a lot of areas in SA are very safe. - Godfrey |
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Agreed
17/03/2008 10:00
Last night i browsed the paper specifically looking for good news, i think the only article that was half positive was related to the Proteas being No1 in the world BUT are now "gatvol." Whilst i agree with your point i feel we can't turn a blind eye on crime, unemployment & poverty. We need constant reminding, censorship will just make matters worse. - John Camp |
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Lize u r 100% correct
17/03/2008 10:00
Thank you for the positive article so early in the morning. - Martin Radebe |
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news reporting
17/03/2008 10:01
Well, if newspapers should, as you suggest, put only good news on the front page and tuck in bad news somewhere at the back, we sure would have a lot of blank front pages. Be realistic Lize, at the moment there's not enough good news to fill the page of a pocket notebook. We should acknowledge that, and because every one of us, black and white and inbetween, is affected, we should all try and work against it. What you suggest is not a solution. Blinkers never were. - taurus |
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Journalists have low self esteem
17/03/2008 10:08
I agree with the writer. But people should know that when the media get hold of something, it is going to be distorted eg the Zuma shower saga. John lennon once said about music critcs, ' they are critics because they can't be in bands' In some ways the media are no different...The only way to get recognition is by sensationalising. Hey but instant karma will get you. - peter Biro |
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Lol, very funny Lise
17/03/2008 10:08
do you think if they don't report the hard reality in SA, it don't happen? People got the right to know what is going on around them. It is a duty the press got towards the public. Do you got any idea how many stories don't get published? Wonder if you're one of the victims if you'll still be so ignorant... - johan |
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Both ways
17/03/2008 10:11
Although I agree on most of what was said. Racism works both ways. Report on black on white racism and much as white on black. It does not automatically mean someone is racist just because you don't like someone of the opposite colour. I am a white who does not like some whites, just like some blacks dislike some blacks. It's personality, not colour!! - ALS |
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Wrong
17/03/2008 10:12
I don?t see why stories like this:
http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2289349,00.html 'There was blood on the ceiling' - should be moved to page three. Instead I think this kind of brutality should be plastered all over the main page and left there for days so people can be warned and the world can see what kind of animals we are dealing with here. Sorry but enough is enough ? we can?t go on like this. - Helpus |
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Only God can help us defeat crime
17/03/2008 10:15
Are we already that badly off? - WoeBEToUs |
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17/03/2008 10:17
An Afrikaans news paper has repeatedly reported burglaries and murders that never happened in the East of Pretoria. Murder and burglaries are rife in PTA East but not as rife as what that news paper depicts. - me |
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Please pinch me 4 a reality check
17/03/2008 10:18
The press doesn't make news good or bad, it is a reality & 2 blame the press 4 their slant is naive. There is very little 2 b positive about & it gets worse & worse. Take the call by the NEC 4 Mbeki 2 come clean. With all due respects this is a body with a "corrupt" Zuma as its head who is using your money 2 fight tooth and nail 4 evidence to be suppressed. On top of it this esteemd body has some 33% of its members who are either convicted criminals or investigation. How do make this positve? - martin albert |
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50 -50
17/03/2008 10:18
Tabza- what are you on about? SA has got one of the highest murder rates in the world! You call your self a patriot, but wait until your life is turned upside down because of a brutal murder, rape or even just a hijacking and robbery. You will change your mind very quickly my love. Its because of people like you that nothing works in this place. We cant sit back and say its the media's fault. Its not, its government not taking action or hold of the situation damit! - al-pal |
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Warped focus
17/03/2008 10:22
True. Take the whole Kovsie video for example. Although what the students did can never be excused or tolerated, we don't see the faces and names of farm killers in the papers every day. I don't see the photos and names of people who kill for a mere cellphone sprawled on the first page. If an innocent woman is burnt with a warm iron during a robbery, why isn't THAT shown over and over on CNN? - Mariska Rabie |
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Well Said......
17/03/2008 10:24
Well said. I do agree with you, the Press is responsible for people?s attitude in SA by only focusing on the negative reporting. I am inclined to believe that as everything happens for a reason, this is done so as to undermine the black man?s government. This is done to discredit those in charge of this country. From the department of health to department of what what, all you hear is negative and nothing good is happening.
Yes indeed, we are not saying a blind eye should be turned on things that are happening. It is true that SA has a crime problem but the way it?s being magnified it?s as though SA is the only country that has this kind of a problem.
To all the news paper editors out there, please stop selling us ?makwinya? we need nutrition to feed our minds ? ningazosidina la!!!!
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I agree 200% with Lize
17/03/2008 10:25
Newspapers, talk radio stations, any news bulleting, all we hear is negativity! This is what I've been saying for a long time. By the time you get to work you've heard about murders, rapes, burglaries, hijackings. How do we then have a positive mindset? Not that the crime does not exist but that it's IMPOSSIBLE to actually believe that all we have is negative. Especially News24 because it's my home page, most of their reporting is gory details! I suppose bad news sells... - Kgomotso |
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Media
17/03/2008 10:26
While I agree with this article, it's a bit naive to think that the press should focus on positive or even neutral news items for the sake of the citizens' morale. It is an industry and they're in it for the money. Also, it's also not good to have them write news articles which are overly positive all the time because thats simply another form of bias comparable to Chinese propaganda state news. Neutrality is difficult to find these days. Find decent, reputable publications to read, News24 excl. - Michael |
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Idiot
17/03/2008 10:30
The press report it as it is. Our country is in deep shit and ignoring it won't make a difference. Making everybody aware of it and spuring them into action will make things better! So stop trying to defend these lying ANC bastards! - Dave |
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Our culture of blame shifting!
17/03/2008 10:34
I support truthful reporting as a feedback based mechanism in a democratic society. However, there are certain challenges with such a system that I will try to highlight. Reporting should be a reflection of events and should not determine or influence social mood or action. This however is easier said than done. The companies that report the news are businesses and the make their money selling newspapers and getting people tuned into television stations. This makes it a difficult task to discern between responsible reporting and good business. Good business caters for the every need of the customer and I am sad to say that the public has an insatiable need for controversy and violence. Think about that statement next time you slow down to look at the accident on the other side of the road. Although I believe that the media is contributing to the negative atmosphere in South Africa, it is still the people buying the newspapers and tuning into the television stations that are keeping them business. Vote with your actions not your mouth! - Charles Scheepers |
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Phillip
17/03/2008 10:34
What in your opinion exactly is it that "White South Africans" dont get? It is of course your choice to go to these braai's and listen to moans or is it that you are out of touch with the reality of everyday life? - den |
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Well Said
17/03/2008 10:35
Amen to that Lize - Masingita |
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lize
17/03/2008 10:35
refreshing. yes, agree with you 100%. SA is not all bad news. it's not even mostly bad news. we do have crime and all the other nonsense going on in the world today, but when people start getting the news from their neighbours etc (ie start communicating) they'll realise we ARE succeeding in turning this place around!! - mm |
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Weekend hangover..........
17/03/2008 10:39
leeds to most of the comments on this article. Crime in this country is a reality. Please don't use a "dressing code" to try and fool the rest of the world. It's so sickning!!!!!!!!!!! - Annie |
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Leave the media alone
17/03/2008 10:41
They're doing their job & are still reasonably controlled through ethics. Obviously you're to filter any information to separate fact & opinion - the system expects a certain level of education from readers. Democracy is built on the availability of information 2 t public.
The disparity of information between media & government is caused by government. There's a lack of honesty, respect & ability to visualise rather than conceptualise.
The racist reaction to media's symptom of OUR illness. - Pieter Joubert |
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Head in the Sand
17/03/2008 10:45
I agree, give us some more good news as it is under reported. BUt don't think that it is all rosey out there. Maybe our media is not that bad and they are reflecting the true state of the nation. The bad is still very bad and should not be ignored. I dont want to be kept in the dark and misled as was during apartheid. Face the facts even if you dont like them. - Boet |
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I love the "african" way of thinking
17/03/2008 10:47
If something doesn't suite you, just change it. So if there is a high murder rate, lets focus on the nice rain fall we had and that we have enough water again. But wait until the day it hits your family or friends, then you get angry and want to go out and kill people. But yes, the media should also report on things that are going right and they can improve there.I watch etv because 4 1/2 hour I want the truth, no SABC lies/BS, if I wanted bliss, I would sit in my garden and watch the birds. - M |
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Yes! for page three "crime"
17/03/2008 10:49
"...crime and bad news are tucked away on page three" in overseas newspapers? I live in London and The Sun's page three is very well known for only one thing: http://www.page3.com/
Now, I'm convinced the majority of readers would agree that we'd like to see more of these type of "page three crime articles!" ;-) - The Sun subscriber |
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We need more people like Lisa!
17/03/2008 10:51
The papers really should report the crime, grime, corruption, falling Rand, electricity problems, aids issues, etc. in a more positive light. It will really assist myself and the other realists still around to off-load our assets for a good price to the happily boiling frogs. Lisa, I have a house and boat going, good value, crime free area. Honest. You interested? - Liki |
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The foundations are not as good as a few years back?
17/03/2008 10:53
I havent seen a road being retarred in Durban for a year now...... should I go on??? - Mark |
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Less emotionally?
17/03/2008 10:53
Lize, how do you suggest the newspapers report the gang-rape of a 21 year old woman (while her elderly father lies tied up a few metres away) 'less emotionally'? - SF |
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jislaaikit!!!
17/03/2008 10:55
I'm astounded by some of these commentators and their inability to follow an argument. LIZE DID NOT SAY THAT THE NEWSPAPERS SHOULD ONLY REPORT GOOD NEWS!!!! How did you pass those comprehension tests in grade 3? - witseun |
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17/03/2008 10:56
Godfrey u r right on this one. I read in 1 of the US news papers 2day that the US truckers have come up with a plan to cause lower fuel prices and make the US corporation show its hand. Many are now almost bankrupt from the fuel prices and increases on taxes on their rigs. They are upset that the Mexicans are now taking their jobs because they will work for almost nothing. They are angry at They are angry about banks raising their rates on some short term ticket loans. They are just angry in general - CB |
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this country is history
17/03/2008 10:56
please people dont act all happy clappy here we all know this country is busted and heading for total melt down one way or another. it is not possible for so many cultures to live along side one another, and lets face it everything and everything is race related in this country, either give us white our own land with our own economy and let us sort our selves out and we will leave you blacks alone or lets have war, but lets not carry on like everything will be ok. - terence |
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Positive Programmes
17/03/2008 11:00
The media will report that the currency is dropping against major international currencies but will never inform you on how to boost this very currency either through government initiatives or through community programmes. There are programmes such as Asgisa, SMME, Jipsa, Nef, Uyf, Gbp etc tec that people do not know about or understand fully and their knowledge in that regard might have a positive outcomes for the country - Zilo |
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Reality
17/03/2008 11:03
Come on , it is what is really happening.Unfortunately you don't get all the stories as not all the information is given to the media for publication.
You obviously haven't been a victim yet , wait until it happens , you'll change your outlook. - Nutballs |
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So what good news do you have to-day?
17/03/2008 11:12
The good things that happen to us every day, in most cases r not newsworthy. Please tell us of anything. I'd love to feel good about my country again.
I'll go first... I got to work safely. No-one had burgled my shop, although they did last week. The economical outlook is so bad, that I have more time to spend on the computer...no customers Thabo Mbeki, with whom I have pleaded b4 might just have the guts to spill the beans. That would make me smile. Have to q |
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