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the straw that broke the camel's back
23/04/2008 10:41
Bullard's columns are well known for the racist drivel they spew out every week - i always made a point of avoiding them. But that's the thing - after so many offensive articles, this last one was the straw that broke the camel's back.And good riddance I say - VG |
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David Bullard incident worrying
23/04/2008 10:47
One thing the ANC has done successfully is reracialise this country to levels akin to the height of apartheid. It's a very clever "divide & rule" tactic: blacks & whites at each other's throats when in fact the real villains are greedy & arrogant politicians. We need to realise that as people we're better than this & the ANC is brainwashing us to see race as the thorn in every issue when in fact it is not. David Bullard is simply creaking under the strain like we all are of this toxic atmosphere - Longbow |
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This story will never go away
23/04/2008 10:48
and we'll continue reading 45 million different versions of what happened. I, for one, never read his articles however i supported him whether he was out of order or not, WHY??? I have a simple philosophy, in journalism you CANT adopt double standards, if i am white and i did wrong, remove me and likewise if i am black. Get my point? - John Camp |
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whatever
23/04/2008 10:50
Sure, Bullard is an idiot. Never liked him.
But to fire him over that article? Please man, that was pathetic! Couldn't they get a better reason? - johann |
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Nice one!
23/04/2008 10:51
Nice one Unathi! Does seem strange that it was that one article only that sent him packing. - Gman |
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Did Bullard have a point?
23/04/2008 10:52
Let me start by saying that Bullard took a risk by writing the offending column. He must have known that it would be controversial. However, let's think about this. When colonials arrived in Africa the African people were living in a primitive society with no infrastructure and no evidence of any inventions or modern tools for the time. Would Africa have caught up with the rest of the world if left in isolation or not? Even modern Africa is still the world's "sympathy case". - James |
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Nice One
23/04/2008 10:53
Cant agree more! Bullard is a brilliant controversial writer and he sells. The Sunday Times is actually a crap paper. I never buy it and only go onto the internet every Sunday to read Bullards column and maybe the front page headlines. Otherwise its a bit like SABC and Etv. Full of ads and rubbish content! - eric |
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Perspective
23/04/2008 10:54
I think anything and everything is classified as racist as soon as you do not agree with the idea!DB writes columns like this one to create an alternate perspective e.g. the Brits are to blame for all that is bad = current perspective, what if it was the chinese colonising at a later stage = alternate perspective.Please tray and read what he was trying to say do not read the surface as that may seem racist according to the general population! - Mike |
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When the Truth Hurts
23/04/2008 10:54
Shame you really do have a chip on your shoulder, anyway you ask the question can you imagine, I can and believe me you should read his column again and understand the truth. - Chris |
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The reason for firing David isn't convincing.
23/04/2008 10:55
Well...the question I've always been asking is why the article was printed and published in the first place. I mean surely it had to be reviewed and approved before it was published.
If the article was so bad that it cost him his job, then the people who gave the go-ahead of allowing it to be published should also be brought into question, and maybe possibly get a suspension or even lose their jobs as well. - A |
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Bullard Apologised to all Black people
23/04/2008 10:55
Bullard was a privileged whitey who came here from England and hurled racial insults at blacks. He admitted that he got carried away in his columns's success and pushed the boundaries too far. In my rural village no one knows about Bullard, but when I explained what happened to my neighbour when we sat around the fire, he reckoned Bullard had to go. When I tell everyone here in the village, they agree Bullard was racist. - Sello |
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Heh heh heh
23/04/2008 10:56
Good one, seemingly chickens are coming home to roost. I'm expecting a further head-rolling "tsunami". Watch this space....heh heh heh He who laughs last, laughs the best viva da revolution of the progressives! - Cape Town Kid |
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@ Longbow
23/04/2008 10:57
I totally agree with you they also run a campaign of "fear & consumption". We as people need to shake the fear and stand together! - Reasonable Man |
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Nice One
23/04/2008 11:00
Cant agree more! Bullard is a brilliant controversial writer and he sells. The Sunday Times is actually a crap paper. I never buy it and only go onto the internet every Sunday to read Bullards column and maybe the front page headlines. Otherwise its a bit like SABC and Etv. Full of ads and rubbish content! - eric |
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Muppet
23/04/2008 11:01
Unathi you are a muppet and are a 'hindsight comment maker', David bullard HAS asked for forgiveness and also only called people lazy, greedy and criminal when they were, and were proven to be so. Admit it chap, our government are greedy (proof everywhere), lazy (proof everywhere) and a large portion HAVE got criminal records with a few more coming shortly. The fact that they are all black people is just a fact, not David Bullards fault. How's the career hunting going, found a job yet? - Grant |
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james just like bullard
23/04/2008 11:02
i think you have a very passive thinking and you are actually saying africa woul not prosper it was not colonised. It is with people like you that this continent is labelled a black continent. You surely believe that a brown skin person is narrow minded...better think again brother because whether you like it or not africa will one day prosper...africa my beginning africa my end. - concerned south african |
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i dont get ur story
23/04/2008 11:03
i really dont understand ur statement,u sound like u actaul dont know where u heading to,u story doesnt have sense at all,go and redraft ur story. - vts |
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Censorship Is King
23/04/2008 11:04
Not even the photosynthesis phenomenan is as sensitve as our nation is when it comes to satire. - MP3 |
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Home truths
23/04/2008 11:06
Concerned south african is a dreamer. First, I am not saying that non-whites are necessarily stupid. I just pointed out a FACT about Africa's level of development past and present. Maybe concerned south african will explain how Africa will get out of its mess. - James |
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So he issued an apology and
23/04/2008 11:06
as far as I'm concerned that should be the end of it. Or is this a case of 1 man's apology can be accepted (end of story) while another cannot. Are we now to believe that there are degrees of wrong? And Sello, that's not what you said when we discussed this around the (wood) fire in your village last week. Are you now siding with Pallo Jordan? - bokkie |
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Calling a spade a spade?
23/04/2008 11:06
Wasn't he just calling a spade a spade? - Walter |
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Recently
23/04/2008 11:09
I read Left To Tell by Immaculee Ilibagiza about ethnic and racial violence in Rwanda and the whole world in General It would do David Bullard a world of good to read the book and it will change a lot of his racial perpective of the world and race, the book is also recommended for Kolobe, Juan and all the racist news 24 users. It will do you a world of good. - Mxolisi "Selby Shabangu |
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Everyone missed the other side of the story...
23/04/2008 11:11
I read Bullards column, and though he said that Africa would still have been primitive without colonisation, he also highlighted the positive aspects. Such as the fact that Africa wouldnt be riddled by polution, and that kids would be listening to their grandfathers stories around a fire and not taking drugs and playing mind numbing computer games. Families wouldnt have been torn apart by urbanisation and the crumbling of morals. Bullard highlighted both the good and evil of colonisation. - Justine |
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Firing Bullard...
23/04/2008 11:12
Whether one agrees with what was said or not is not the issue. I hope he sues the ST and wins. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, and you can just fire someone without due process, it's unconstitutional...oh hang on he's a whitey? the constitution doesn't apply to him. - makes you think doesn't it? - Nick |
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sunday times...
23/04/2008 11:12
maybe i'm missing the point or maybe i'm just a bit slow but what is the point of an editor? why does a newspaper have one? now the big fuss about the column... surely someone read the thing before it got published and if it truly was so offensive as what its made out to be, surely an alarm bell should've gone off somewhere. Now i understand that he's outspoken and is often on that thin line... why wasn't this column stop from being published? i dont get it... - olli |
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flog the dead horse
23/04/2008 11:12
let it go already. Although i do want to say that yesterday when Pallo Jordan said people like bullard are not welcome in this country - it's like someone coming into your lounge and defecating on your carpet (his words, not mine) I did have to laugh. Has Pallo ever had his house broken into because that's exactly what happens when they do and people like Bullard - who belong in this country as much as you do - at least have the balls to fight back. - tired of fools |
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White mentality
23/04/2008 11:13
Bullards represents the white myopic mentality prevailing in the entire country. We have lots of Bullards in the corporate world, which we are still resisting transformation in the work environment. I think this dingbat is enjoying the publicity he gets. Anyway another recycled article which belongs to the bin. - Calvin Mkhize |
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Around in circles
23/04/2008 11:15
Again, another topic to be influenced by emotional opinions. Perhaps a better one is 'Is David Bullard to be blamed more or less or the same as the black and white people that OK'd the column'. Suspect it is easier to sleep for some at night when you can pin it all on one man. - AJ |
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Truth Hurts
23/04/2008 11:16
C'mon, lets be absolutely honest with ourselves for once. What Bullard was saying was possibly controversial, but as mentioned by "james", it is the truth. Africa and Africans can not tolerate the truth. Everything has to be linked to racialism or being racist. Can't people just accept the truth sometimes and get on with trying to fix this mess called Africa, which appears to be kicking and screaming as it it dragged into the 21st century! - GT |
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Shouldn't the EDITOR, Mondi, also go?
23/04/2008 11:17
I don't like Bullard, however if he is fired for doing his job wrong, shouldn't Mondi, the so called EDITOR, also be fired for not even doing his job? If Mondi was upset by the column why did he publish it? Oh yeah, it slipped through the system. The system of double standards! If he gets to keep his job (EDITOR) by not doing his job, I too will to keep my job (TIMES READER) by no longer doing mine. - Brenton |
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James
23/04/2008 11:20
Bullard might have a point you say, my question is did the African people ever complain with their huts, no roads and all that hogwash. Have you ever stopped to think that maybe just maybe they were content with the way things were.
About Bullard's article it was offensive, period! He insuates that African people do not value the lives of their children, if the child dies they just bonk to make another one, which suggest we are worse that animals. - Funnybones |
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when is a person racist?
23/04/2008 11:22
I had to salvage and re-read the article once more to see the racism i have missed when i heard of David's firing! Does this mean we will be losing Fred Khumalo as well? I will then say bye-bye to the ST because to me all the columnist are good and always take a swipe at us people, be it the smelly Britons (Bullard) the Zulus (Fred) etc. what about the the David Kaus? (blacks cant swim!)? - Sungula |
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Bullard wrote nonsense
23/04/2008 11:24
Bullard should have been fired for suggestion NOT watching SA(N?)BC TV leads to "mentally underdeveloped" people when in fact the opposite is true! - Dries |
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More than meets the eye
23/04/2008 11:24
I really liked David with his cut throat brutally honest comments. Somehow somebody must have really felt his bite and pressure and decided he had to go. But lets admit the man had a point. - Sbo |
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Why?
23/04/2008 11:25
And why are we still talking about Bullard? - Chris-T |
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All whites are racists
23/04/2008 11:29
If you believe the ANC and the press, when a black person kills a white person, the white person is an unfortunate victim of crime. When a white person kills a black person, the back person is a victim of vile white racists who are plotting to undermine the very democratic principles we must all be so grateful to the ANC for introducing. So by merely being white, Bullard has to be a racist. Strange how post-colonial Canada, North America, Australia, NZ, HK etc managed to get things so right... - Bob |
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Too PC
23/04/2008 11:30
We used to be able to laugh at ourselves. We're just too sensitive at the moment. Monty Python would get lynched! - Brett |
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Let the facts speak for themselves...
23/04/2008 11:32
Please correct me if I'm wrong and I will stand corrected. To my knowledge the only time that Africa ever prospered and produced was when it was colonized. Ever since the colonists left there has been nothing but a steady decline. Please, don't start whining and denying and calling me a racist. PROVE me wrong and I'd be happy to retract my statement. - Fox |
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Can you imagine.....
23/04/2008 11:32
Well, can you? I agree with Unathi, that may have been what happened. To all those who claim they have an imagination (it's actually an advantage to have one)at what stage would this continent have been without the white? settlers building and planning towards the development of this continent (and the world).For that matter, what great achievements or inventions have ever been reached by blacks in general? Let us not be blind to facts and acknowledge what is true.John - john |
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Truth vs Racism
23/04/2008 11:32
Can anyone prove his article wrong, if not then it is the truth and why is it then considered to be racist. As far as history goes most things he said are accurate. - Rob |
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@ "concerned south african"
23/04/2008 11:33
You say that Africa will prosper, well maybe it will and maybe it won't. However, there are certain facts that need to be addressed first. 1. AIDS is a problem; people die of it every day. 2. Poverty is rampant. 3. Education needs to reach every single person. Parochial mindsets need to be changed to embrace free thinking. When people can research and make up their own minds then Africa will prosper. Until then enlightenment will be absent and darkness will continue in the name of tribalism. - Jay_B |
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What if isn't that far off
23/04/2008 11:35
Was David really that far off? Consider the following. Farm/business that is being operated efficiently by people who know what they are doing. Evict them with no incentive of staying and replace them with people who are short sighted and incompetent. Result: the farm/business is run into the ground. Mmmmmm where have I seen this and what implications did it hold? Now again consider substituting all the competent business people in a country with incompetent personnel......wonder what will happen? - Cabbo |
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Christine Qunta should go the same way
23/04/2008 11:35
Christine Qunta's columns in the Star are unapologetically more racist towards whites than Bullard's little 'flight of imagination' could ever be... Yes she isn't fired. Once again double standards - one standard for blacks, another for 'second class' whites.. - Emigrating soon |
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James is right!
23/04/2008 11:36
unfortunately for "concerned south african", who seemed to take great offense to James' comments, there is no hiding from the fact that through the millions of years that Africans have inhabited the continent there was extremely little advancements in there society and lifestyle. Africans seemed to be completely content in the way they lived and showed little, if any, signs of changing (not that thats such a bad thing). so stop being so defensive and just eccept the facts. - Gordon |
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Sello
23/04/2008 11:37
Pity we can't fire you from this forum wouldn't that be bliss. A certain amount of intelligence and discernment is needed when reading any columnists material. We have a democracy ?village boy?, which allows you to exercise your freedom of speech, its constitutional. All that I am asking is that you allow us ?privileged whiteys? to express our views racial or not, around our braais in suburbia as we allow you ?under privileged AA blackies? to express your views around village fires, so be fair Sello, protect ?freedom of speech? - in whatever form or content, with the same fervor that you protect your racist stance. - Obliviouspissness |
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Double standards
23/04/2008 11:37
Pallo Jordon likened Bully's column to "coming into someone's living room and defecating on their carpet" what he failed to mention is the black criminals that didn't walk into Bullards house and defecate on his carpet, they broke into his house and shot him. These murdering thugs are the people SA does not need within its boarders, not Bullard who was merely doing what he was paid to do - being controversal. Satire - not appreciated by the less intelligent. - JTA |
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Machine is rising again
23/04/2008 11:38
The good old days of a government controlled media machine back again?
Good old days hey? - Morne |
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The irony of the Bullard firing is that his point of blaming someone else
23/04/2008 11:40
for your own faults is all pervasive. Mondli takes 'responsibility' but fires him publicly, therefore blaming DB for content and avoiding fault. Mangcu fires shots at a white populace that voted themselves out of power and intially embraced the rainbow nation, only to have the Mbeki ANC re-racialise society and drive us back into our pre-1994 holes. "Its the whites' fault he screams". Someone else is always to blame in this place. How true DB's comment is appearing to be... - Zoo Keeper |
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confused
23/04/2008 11:40
I don't see how freedom of speech only applies to black people in this country (eg. Jon Qwelane), and how only white people can be racists (eg. Jon Qwelane). It seems alot of people have double-standards in this country. It's easy to just say, and believe, crime, electricity, water, government, Zimbabwe, 2010 is not a problem, but denial will not improve anything. Denial is the sickness of Africa, and that is why South Africa will never become a first world country. Pity!! - realist |
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Bullard
23/04/2008 11:40
I trully think we should now put Bullard to rest. I for one am getting a little tired of the constant articles/columns written about him. What about the racist remarks written by JQ? And just another thing Calvin, I am white, and proud of it but do not put us all in the same catagory as Bullard. Build a bridge and get over it! - carol |
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23/04/2008 11:41
People like Bullard will always be punished by their Higher Self, which sees "the evil" or harm they do to others and produces guilt through natural empathy with others. They are punished by their own anger and negativity--which torment them with conflict, anger, and anxiety. They are too busy feeling anger to feel happy. - CB |
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Conspiracy
23/04/2008 11:41
Unathi, you are too much of a conspiracy theorist. Bottomline, Bullard's previous articles were truelly offensive and could have been argued as racist_the IMaGiNE column was simply racial extremism. At least he's conceded as such himself_"mourn a baby for a week and then make another one". Kick this racist and his ilk to touch_well done Mondli (pity you decided to publish though_maybe that says something about you). - King Alpha |
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Good heavens is this really still newsworthy?
23/04/2008 11:42
Thing is you can CHOOSE to read it or care about it or not. Finish and klaar. That's democracy. What I care about is an employee's 13 yr old son who is being targeted by gangsters in iKasi. The kid is too scared to leave the house or go to school and wants to go hide at his grandmother's in the Eastern Cape. He can't go to the cops because they'll kill him. And all because he won't give them money or sell his mom's TV so they can buy drugs. So where are the community leaders? I'll telly you too busy lining their pockets and fussing over irrelevant nonsense like this... - May |
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BLACK IGNORANCE
23/04/2008 11:43
M: Oh, sorry. Consider Bullard gone buy tomorrow morning.
If you're going to be a journalist, at least learn how to spell you ignorant black boy - if you haven't noticed by now, BUY should be spelt BY - idiot.
Bullard's piece was brilliant!! It's got such a reaction because in all probability, it's what southern africa would've been like - just look at Zim; Your uncle Bob has done wonders since removing all the white people!!
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Good for the goose
23/04/2008 11:46
I must confess to not liking Bullards writing at least half the time, but if some of the other writers on this planet (look around, they are close ..) can spew their brand of hatred wherever they like, then why not Bullard. I don't even shoplift the Times any more, so Mondli and his motley crew of comrades can try and peddle their unmodified loo paper at the next meeting of the Black Journalists Forum. - Excalibur |
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I have accepted his apology.
23/04/2008 11:46
If a man agrees to his mistakes and takes time to apologise, I think it's fair to forgive him, I have. If we do not forgive and accept his apology, we would be left with the scars, for a long time. He should continue writing about cars, he does a brilliant job and I don't think he should be lost. I have always admired his writing skills, few possess such skills. - Libembe |
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Freedom of speech?
23/04/2008 11:48
Imagine......getting fired for Freedom of Speech! Wow! What kind of backward country would allow such a thing? Oh! Wait a minute, not imagine, its real! Little Zimbabwe here we come! - amused |
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Chinese Ship
23/04/2008 11:48
Strange how Bullard refered to the Chinese Ships at precisely the same time as the An Yue Jiang arrived in our waters with weapons destined for Zimbabwe. You should chage your story :
GR : "He knows about comrade Mugabes ship. he must go." - Ian |
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Bullard's dismissal
23/04/2008 11:49
Strange how David gets fired for "racist" comments from the Sunday Times but Jon Q is still working for News24!!! Yes Mr Ed this probebly won't get posted but if David's racist so is JQ - I was insulted by JQ's comments as were many people but nothing's been done about him - I say fire JQ's then he and David can get together!! - Copper |
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Bullard Bullard
23/04/2008 11:49
It seems that Bullard really press the trigger. Politicians, Bloggers, Presenters, e.t.c are on Bullard's case. Shame! but i don't blame them. - Online |
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Bullard wasn't wrong
23/04/2008 11:52
Bullard's article...racist? No. Insulting? Sure...but it's only insulting if you have a problem with the black history of Sub-Saharan Africa because, well, it really isn't a preposterous prediction. The Sunday Times is a pathetic newspaper and has been for about the past 10 years...good journalism was never abound but now it's entirely absent. 'Bob', it's not very strange at all...a plethora of reasons. - Schmied |
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Bully
23/04/2008 11:52
I think we should get over this Bullard thing, he somehow has a point. Just think of all states that have been run by African Leaders-infrastucture, roads, buildings. All of the above are more than twenty years behind time. Why, cause no white man was there. And SA on the one hand, the new york of Africa, why?Simply cause a white man set foot here.I'd like to call all black folks, to stop being ignorant and accept the fact that if it wasnt for the white man,there would not be N1. black man - tseesee |
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dead horse
23/04/2008 11:53
Sunday times run the storie about uManto.Mondli said befor Polokwane he does not want u Zuma, he said uzuma is not fit to lead. that settles your call in the middle of the night rubbish. UModli did not read David article befor publishing he assumed he has a brain BAD assumption.case closed. Move on get a hobbie or even a life - Thami |
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leave mondli alone
23/04/2008 12:02
the white okes who keep calling for Mondli to be fired for allowing the article to get published clearly have no idea how the production of a paper works. well let me educate you guys for a second. step one: a reporter, or a columnist, submits copy or a article. step 2: the news editor, who also assigns journalist to cover events, then subs the copy for any errors (slander, libel, grammar etc.) step 3: a copy taster will literally taste the copy/column to see if it's fine before they send it to the pool of sub editors. the column has already been placed on the page during this process. the editor who's name is Ray Hartley by the way, will get alerted by these different people if there's anything wrong with the piece. Mondli who is the managing editor is not involved in the subbing process, he has other more pressing issues to deal with (like advertisers). clearly Mondli was not alerted by Hartley about the piece (i assume he didn't see anything wrong with it) which is why it made into the paper. hope this helps. - Bra Darkie |
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Unathi the Idiot!!
23/04/2008 12:03
Am i just going astray when i say that Unathi"The Idiot'Kondile was actually using this tired Bullard song to open another lashing at Zuma.?He says that Zuma's still waiting for his 6m & someone in Gov must've made that firing call to Mondli & the rest became an unsolved History!Unfortunately for him,the attention has been shifted to the Racist Bullard & his column & not at what he expected!Have a nice you Idiot!!Cheers to my fellow user's - Les-Maada |
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Good articles, then writers return to biased form
23/04/2008 12:06
Previous two articles were inspiring and of value. Now writers continue to write biased articles and add to polarisation. Why, oh why is this published. Agree with CB. M24, Please provide a forum where public can air their views. Also, NB!!! where Gov, etc. can go to get the feedback from citizens. Lets be constructive, not destructive! - Matrix |
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Facts
23/04/2008 12:11
People people people, colonization made the world as it is today. Where would the whole of Europe be now had the Romans not invaded. Where would the USA be had Columbus not arrived. Bullard article might have had a sarcastic undertone which people might have found offensive but his facts aren?t necessarily far off. Had there been no colonization, the whole world would have lived in mud huts? - red |
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leave mondli alone
23/04/2008 12:11
the white okes who keep calling for Mondli to be fired for allowing the article to get published clearly have no idea how the production of a paper works. well let me educate you guys for a second. step one: a reporter, or a columnist, submits copy or a article. step 2: the news editor, who also assigns journalist to cover events, then subs the copy for any errors (slander, libel, grammar etc.) step 3: a copy taster will literally taste the copy/column to see if it's fine before they send it to the pool of sub editors. the column has already been placed on the page during this process. the editor who's name is Ray Hartley by the way, will get alerted by these different people if there's anything wrong with the piece. Mondli who is the managing editor is not involved in the subbing process, he has other more pressing issues to deal with (like advertisers). clearly Mondli was not alerted by Hartley about the piece (i assume he didn't see anything wrong with it) which is why it made into the paper. hope this helps. - Bra Darkie |
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So what does an editor do exactly?
23/04/2008 12:12
I thought the Ed had to approve what was published before it was published. So either Mondli didn't do his job, or he was looking for a reason to fire Bullard, so published it anyway. Either way, I think it is only right that Mondli steps down too, to acknowledge his part in this debacle. After all, he did allow the article to be published. - AvN |
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Please leave quitely
23/04/2008 12:15
Why should people tells that they are emmigrating when things don't as smooth as they would like? we cannot be held at ransom for this. i say they should leave and quietly so.we don't need such attitudes in SA now.WE ARE OVERCROWDED as it is.maybe we are facing crime.aids and other issues because of overcrowing.GO AND SCREAM SOMEWHERE ELSE! - Bokamoso |
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Well said!
23/04/2008 12:15
Very well said and interesting indeed! Makes you wonder, doesn't it... - Big R |
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The Phantom-David
23/04/2008 12:16
David, Thanks my man, beasured that the Phantom of Bully will haunt the one-eyes forever, like the scull and cross bones ring of the Phantom or will he also have to go, Thanks David go well!! - Chris |
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We can't always agree, we need "Devil's Advocates"
23/04/2008 12:23
He is a brilliant writer, who, I am sure has his instructions ons how, when and where to stir...so he wrote the piece... the egg, but who laid it. Who, ultimately, decided to publish this "good stuff?" - Alicia |
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Fact
23/04/2008 12:25
Today, if one examines areas of the world, like PNG or the Amazon, you will find groups of people that still live at an iron-age level of technology. These people have had little or no contact with so called civilisation and therefore have not developed beyond that technologically or socially.
Now if one examines the technological level of Africa at the time of the European explorer's "discoveries", most of Africa (especially sub-Saharan) was at the level of the iron-age. If Africa had no contact with technologically more advanced cultures, it would still, for the most, be at an iron-age level of technological development.
I am not taking into account factors such as influence from North African, Arab and for that matter, any other cultures or peoples. This has nothing to do with racism, it is anthropological fact and should be accepted for that.
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Whiteness and all its puritan forms are at issue here
23/04/2008 12:26
The heart of the matter, it seems, is the perceived assault at whiteness and its perceived superiority: it's been ingrained through upbringing that whiteness and all its forms are sacrosanct, pure, unassailable. Now, the shock comes with the events that prove the opposite to be true: UOFS urinating spree, Bullard's axing, Stellenbosch police raids, Dina Rodriguez case, etc. All these refute the theory of white purity, and it proves hard to accept it. Sadly, indeed, but still true. - nzs |
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Bullard
23/04/2008 12:30
But what is democracy and freedom of speech. Am black and I read most of his columns, they were thought provoking. I think democracy and all that is about engaging and talking abt issues (correct me if am wrong). - general |
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Bullard will be back
23/04/2008 12:31
I reckon that Bullard will be with another newspaper within a month. His controversial article has raised his stock, so to speak, and controversy sells. - James |
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The firing line
23/04/2008 12:32
Nice article Unathi - sincerely. Careful now though... you could get fired! Keep up the edgy outsiders approach. - |
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Bullard said..
23/04/2008 12:33
Bullard said what every thinking person REALLY feels. It's a pity he had to be the whipping boy. What was said had to be said sooner or later. Maybe he was racist in the WAY he said it but I think he was pretty close to the mark. I don't buy the Times but that doesn't mean we won't miss a great writer. Compared to the drivel that comes from our black bretheren, he is/was a master. - Jim Bean |
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Subtlelty lost...
23/04/2008 12:34
It's incredible how low the comprehensive abilities are of the average South African.Bullard's article was not racist, it was a parody, a mere analogy meant to illustrate a point.Naturally though, the subtlety is completely lost on most and they jump on the racist bandwagon.It's so painful to read the amateur "black and white", no pun intended, journalism in SA at the moment since it's all that's allowed and understood ! Unathi work on your spelling and try and write something less blatantly obvious. - James |
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@ King Alpha
23/04/2008 12:39
Name a few internationally acclaimed breakthroughs(inventions, medical ect.) that any African country(except SA) have made in the past 50 years? If I conclude based on that Africa is a bit behind, am I an extreme racist??? - jannie-vra-net |
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Johncom
23/04/2008 12:41
Johncom Management wanted him out - - bob |
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DA
23/04/2008 12:41
i just wondered which parties in an election some of the pro-Bullard writers here would vote for. the DA & likes (and it probably should as studies of political behaviour show)then there WILL NOT BE any reconciliation in SA instead a race war of a kind never seen elsewhere is on the cards. we WILL NEVER accept white superiority in this country. we'll have to rid ourselves of all likeminded people & i believe the views of white correspondents here is representative of their general population. - lulu |
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Bullards Lies ( Or Truths)
23/04/2008 12:43
I come from English stock and a recent author published a spoof of Bullard's writing from the point of view of a Dane (Viking) whose forebearers never invaded England so the English remained backward and lived in mud huts Etc.I was highly amused , the difference between my reaction and that of an average African's to Bullard's article is that Africans have such an inferiority complex probably because they are inferior. - PNB |
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Kondile
23/04/2008 12:44
This has to be one of your weakest fare to date. If a government representative wanted to have Bullard kicked out of the Sunday Times, there is much racism in his previous writing, not to mention the sunday Times's own theft of documents belonging to the Minister of Health. As you say, this writing was hardly any worse than racist fare he has already dished out. I did accept his apology though as it seemed heartfelt. - L van Heerden |
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Insensitive
23/04/2008 12:45
Whether the article was true or not doesn't matter, it was insensitive and hurtful to a large portion of South Africans. And not particularly well written either or witty either, it was pretty crude - Craig |
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James
23/04/2008 12:46
Controversy does sell, but depends on your target market. I can only imagine that News24.com, Naspers or Citizen would even attempt to approach. The others would not wish to even get close in case advertisers put pressure on them - L van Heerden |
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Zuma vs Bullard
23/04/2008 12:48
I like this article Unathi, well done ... Keep it up, it's entertaining ... - Justin |
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Libembe you rock!
23/04/2008 12:48
Hi Libembe, I just admire the way you forgave bullard. I am very jealous of this! I wish I could forgive racist columnists as easily as you. You taught me something today, and I will no longer call for the head of JonQ either! Thankx! - Andrew |
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Mondli Makhanya must follow Bullard!
23/04/2008 12:55
Sumthing is really wrong at the Sunday Times,y all of a sudden an editor who approved the column to be published fired the columnist? I beleive the one who must be fired is the editor i.e Mondli,I think he approved the column in order to use it against Bullard's dismissal.I saw no racism in the article, in SA when u realistic they call you racist, Zuma and his cronies are now censoring the media. There's a black Bullard in the media airwaves i.e. JQ and nobody condemns his racist articles - Mthimbane |
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To Calvin and the sort
23/04/2008 12:55
Your education which has enabled you to use English at such a high calibre (unless you are using the synonym feature in Word ;), was created by eish the white people of the big develop world. You don't like being clever? you don't like BMW or Armani? oh no, you don't like Soccer!!! shame. accept history as it is, it can't be changed, embrace the present, create a better future together! wake up and stop being so bloody ingnorant! - Grant |
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What of the 5
23/04/2008 12:59
What of the 5 editors who all thought the column was fine and cleared it? Are they fired? No, then its against Bullard alone. Someone did not like him and was looking for an excuse. He was a paid shock writer who wrote a shocking article. He should have gotten a bonus, not his last payslip. - Michael |
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VIVA BULLARD!!
23/04/2008 12:59
I personally will no longer buy the Sunday Times. thoroughly enjoyed Bullards poke at basic incompetence mainly from leaders who embarrass themselves. This article may have been offensive but my goodness does it hit a nerve.
Also no recourse for the Editor - where the hell was he in all this? He should proof read his paper before it goes out. No accountability! Can colonialism realy be blamed for all our problems? Only Mad Bob and chums agree on this. - Barry |
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Questions
23/04/2008 13:00
As much as racism is wrong, the double standards that are rife today are also, can anyone actually say David Bullard was wrong in his creative writing exersise? Who really cares anyway, just wish the blacks would stop being so touchy and the whites would stop appologising and we all just get on with it. Maybe Bullard should have rote about what a bunch of whining shits live in Africa.... - CG |
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Oh... boo, hoo...
23/04/2008 13:01
How sad you are as a nation if the only means of defending your point of view is to not debate or retort in rebuttal, but to kill the argument by eliminating the contest. "don't pick on me, I'm so fragile from all the years of oppression" PATHETIC, the kettle seems to be calling the pot - the dark colour- (Didn?t want to use "black" as I may upset someone)
I do find it very ironic though that not ONE African country, after liberation from settlers rule, have managed to secure the same economic growth or stability they had during said occupation. And this is a FACT?
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VIVA BULLARD!!
23/04/2008 13:02
I personally will no longer buy the Sunday Times. thoroughly enjoyed Bullards poke at basic incompetence mainly from leaders who embarrass themselves. This article may have been offensive but my goodness does it hit a nerve.
Also no recourse for the Editor - where the hell was he in all this? He should proof read his paper before it goes out. No accountability! Can colonialism realy be blamed for all our problems? Only Mad Bob and chums agree on this. - Barry |
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Bullard the Oracle
23/04/2008 13:05
Give him credit! He did forsee the Chinese arriving, albeit by ship with weapons destined for Zim. - Shane |
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To all Blacks out there...
23/04/2008 13:08
Please stop whining and feeling sorry for yourselves because people think you are inferior. Also stop telling us that you are not inferior. Instead SHOW us through your actions that you are not. Now THAT would set the record straight, wouldn't it? - Fox |
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Fred Khumalo xhenophobic
23/04/2008 13:11
If Bullard was fired for racism, then Fred Khumalo should be axed for his naked hatred of Zimbabweans.
You only need to read his chain of xhenophobic articles in the Sunday Times recently. He does not seem to comprehend that Zimbabwe is just like South Africa without the element of Europeans who settled earlier here. - Papa Tasimba |
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The Hoodlum in Grant
23/04/2008 13:11
Grant,
You are a clear manifestation of a destitute who has no home, you give him shelter and then he wants to call the shots going forward!
You to a learned person who is grounded in world History will come off as an ignorant bastard who doesnot know that Modernity originated from Egypt, which i believe is part of Af |
