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Paw-Paws by the thousands (million) 06/05/2008 08:46
Great piece. Just would like to know where all the Paw-paws are going to come from. Very few public figures do not qualify. wanted to add a list but not enough space. - SM |
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A good laugh... 06/05/2008 08:48
Bwahahahahahaha - Finally a funny letter! - Nic |
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Please... 06/05/2008 08:53
Lize,an you for a second stop moaning PLEAZE!!!!! - Justin |
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Nonsense..... 06/05/2008 08:55
You know I am tired of several 25 year olds after smoking something(imported from jamaica)threatening us will economic woes because of AA and BEE, You deserve a Paw-Paw on your face for this stupid article...It is not about degrees in education..we already have qualified teachers that cannot find work..it is about Maths and science teachers get that in your thick skull..Really whats wrong with Manto telling the traditional leaders that they wont take away their cultural rights to circumcise?so you are one of those that wants to impose your culture on others..maybe this are the reasons why Africans prefers the East rather than the west?They impose their cultural beliefs on others and they think they own the world...their asses.. - Kolobe |
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The other nominees .....!! 06/05/2008 08:56
Nice letter Lize!!! Oh ..and lets not forget to nominate the Swartruggens White racists who kicks & break ribs of Black vendors for the same old Being Black reason (Here i'm talking about the lucky victims who received the beating instead of the shooting).Well written nevertheless!! - Les-Maada |
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Seriously? 06/05/2008 09:00
Does so little happen in your world that you are still so fixated with the stapled condoms. That happened years ago. Let it go. Furthermore do you seriously believe 14 years is a long enough time to sengineer social change? This letter just drags up all the rich white opinions and offers nothing new to public discourse. - Warren |
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Upgrading... 06/05/2008 09:05
Great article Lize, may i suggest that we will able to upgrade some of these awards to 'Poepol' and in doing so we can award these to some of the regular 'commentators' on these forums :-) - Charmaine |
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and Raspberry awards 06/05/2008 09:06
for some of the outrageously stupid comments we read daily on this comment site. - John Camp |
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Id laugh... 06/05/2008 09:08
If it wasn't so sad :( Yep, these are our countries leaders... - Sinudeity |
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The first Pawpaw award... 06/05/2008 09:11
goes to you for calling Home Affairs Internal Affairs,it's so yersterday. - Godfrey |
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...has simply too many competitors 06/05/2008 09:14
Lize, do not allow them to get to you! The rationale behind the changes in SA since 1990 are not 'human rights', 'democratization', 'liberalization', etc. In my opinion its far more sinister: Instead of appointing the most capable people (of all races) to govern, get the most corrupt and incompetent ones to prevent an independent nation from rising. Well done FW, Roelf and the rest of the broederbond/freemason thugs! Their day will come, too! - Mike |
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Not so funny dumb-head 06/05/2008 09:19
You like it or not AA (mere 14years) is here forever, just embrace it as you have done likewise with apartheid(400 years). Have you done extensive research to prove that AA failed. For your information SA is training doctors and engineers from Cuba & also recruiting from that country. The problem with you & your ilk is that you are still yearning for apartheid & also suffering from a post apartheid trauma. - Calvin Mkhize |
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WHAHAHAHAHAHA 06/05/2008 09:19
Just want to add Minister Alec Erwin who in a press conference said Koeberg failed because of sabotage...and then denying (telling journalists to look at the footage) that he said it.... - jannie |
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Columnist paw-paw award. 06/05/2008 09:20
If there was a Columnist paw-paw award, Jon Qwelane would win hands down every week, followed a close second by Gary Boshoff. - Geoff |
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Good work 06/05/2008 09:20
I wonder if the recipients and nominees realise how stupid they actually are and whether they have the courage to look in the mirror and conclude that they actually have the power to make a (positive) difference. Good article - let's see if it can attract non racial comment. - Sean |
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Kolobe, Justin and co 06/05/2008 09:23
for heavens sake FIND a sense of humour guys. Have you ever considered that perhaps that's a good sense of humour is exactly what South Africans need right now. OH and for the record, Lize wrote this article and NEWS24 published it. Raspberry to all you guys. - John Camp |
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We have to laugh at ourselves too 06/05/2008 09:24
Yes we can choose to smack our foreheads all day long about our country's ills or other folk's stupidities, or we can take a step back once in a while to have a smile about it all and just feel human again. Thanks Lize for today's chuckle! The chuckles continued when reading some of the kneejerk responses - but that's laughing for a different reason. - Jaco |
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Kolobe ... 06/05/2008 09:27
I think you missed the point here bud. So please go lie down in a quiet place before you hurt yourself. - QuintS |
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Lize for a big pawpaw award. 06/05/2008 09:37
Just by ensuring that there's continued government and ANC bashing qualifies you for this award. You for some stupid reason seem to have overlooked everything that white people have done or the opposition parties to qualify for your stupid award. Go figure you idiotic moron. - Libembe |
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@ Libembe and other black people 06/05/2008 09:42
ANC bashing??? If you have some good DA or IFP jokes, bring 'em on. The ANC bring it onto themselves. Stop being so serious - jannie |
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what about a "box" award... 06/05/2008 09:51
this can go to all the racists like tsepho and kolobe who cant shake off their inferiority complexes, always trying to prove they are equal to whites, and cant live with whites in harmony and enjoy reading in the newspaper another white family got raped and murdered. - mp3's mentor |
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Calvin Mkhize 06/05/2008 09:51
I agree with Calvin Mkhize that AA should stay.
That's the only way people like him will be able to compete. Level playing fields will be just too much to handle. The blame game is much easier and will sink yet another doomed Africa country. Calvin Mkhize, by now every reader in here knows you're not the brightest spark there is. Please stop proving it, but disagreeing with everything a white person say or are you just another racist South African. - peterpan |
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AA 06/05/2008 09:51
My 21 year old niece achieved 93% average in matric and is now a 3rd year medical student. She has never had less than a distinction at university but cannot get a bursary (wrong colour). Once she has finished her 2 year community service if she chooses to take her skills elsewhere she will be damned either for abandoning her country to whom she should be grateful or will be accused of being a racist who cannot accept the changes here. Go figure. - DW |
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Kolobe,Libembe etc. 06/05/2008 09:55
OH yes, and the entire point of apartheid is, IT'S OVER. Your government was supposed to rebuild, but instead has systematically broken down everything. But you're so blinded by racism against whites, that you don't care.When will you get it into your thick skulls, whites don't care that a black government is in charge. WE VOTED FOR THE END OF APARTHEID IN A REFERENDUM. We just want the country not to be run by diots. Excelent letter by the way Lize. Had a good laugh - CJR |
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Thank you Calvin Mkhize 06/05/2008 09:57
Attention all white South Africans.
According to Mr Mkhize we are suffering from post apartheid trauma - do you think we could all get some kind of points in the employment race, or a government grant or extra points for emigrating?
LOL - engage the sense of humour switch please.
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Jon Qwelani should not be crusified after all... 06/05/2008 10:06
Yesterday I rebuked News24 users from responding JQ's to articles, but after reading this article and seeing the responses I think JQ has a point. There is deep rooted racism and hatred here. Let me ask this question to all white folks; Was Piet Koorenhof and genius? What about Pik Botha? All idots. I take my words back JQ, we actually need you. Keep those articles comming. - Hero Nakamura |
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Lize 06/05/2008 10:07
Isn't it telling how some members of society have to call you an "idiotic moron" (as if they know you personally) in order to feel important and clever. But take it from whom it comes. - Jaco |
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Debate doesn't mean verbal bashing! 06/05/2008 10:11
Goodness everyone is soooo sensitive. We're so quick to label her discussion as "rich white discourse" and become all bitchy about it. But then we can't offer another viewpoint in return. Let's appreciate the issues that are presented and offer suggestions. Enjoyable article, thanks Lize. - Lin |
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@ Mkhize - Yes, AA is here to stay - blacks will always need it. 06/05/2008 10:13
Sad to say but you are so right. Black people will never get jobs on merit since they don't have any. They will always need to make sure companies fill their quotas of black faces before actually doing businesses even if it means they go bankrupt. Yes, AA and BEE is here to stay, you will always need a helping hand. You cannot compete. Having said that, I aplogise to those black people that have evolved and dusted their shoulders. Sad that you suffer the stereotype with the less evolved. - Karenq |
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@Limbembe and cronies 06/05/2008 10:16
I would love to hear DA, IFP and other party jokes. You see the thing with joking with the ANC, is because they are the biggest joke of all, and all the joking of the ANC and the government, is all based on facts. So take of those one eye glasses, and see the world for what it is. And please don?t come back with "you are a racist blablabla" or "go to Australia blablabla", that joke is also old. So bring it on!!! I challenge you! - padkos |
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Calvin the ignorant... 06/05/2008 10:16
apartheid was for about 40 years not 400 genious.
continued support for the ANC by calvin and his ignorant ilk are more than enough reason for the ANC to never fulfill their empty promises and only enrich themselves. why should they? you keep voting no matter what so why should they perform. you get the government you deserve. blacks are their own worst enemies cause they bitter.shame - no-name |
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What about a Paw Paw for your own letter 06/05/2008 10:20
some of your facts are rather far fetched, which should earn your letter a PAW PAW. The Deputy Minister was fired not for speaking (she did not speak) but for attending the conference without the requisite approval. Yeah, I love it when people put a foot in it. - L |
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Jannie & Co 06/05/2008 10:20
Whats so funny about the Gov bringing equal opportunities for all?Oh.so you think the Black man does not deserve a corporate managerial position?How do you define the BB/AA?What is it exactly thats bugging you whiteys?is it just ya racist nature,the pace the black man is moving towards development too fast for you?You bunch will have to learn to deal with reality at its fairest(A white man will never again walk into a top post like before).The DA & IFP's got big mouths & small heads.. like frogs! - Les-Maada |
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jannie please... 06/05/2008 10:22
not all black people agree with Libembe...please stop the racial paint brush - lukhay |
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Mwah 06/05/2008 10:23
A kiss on your cheek. Thanks for making me laugh till my sides ached.
What glorious vision you have, and a wonderful way of putting it. "Write on". - Alicia |
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The great pawpaw goes to.... 06/05/2008 10:24
Lize. Only if she knew that BEE is producing more white millionnaires than it does Black ones, she'll also realize that AA as reflected in Employment Equity, has not made any significant change in senior positions. The second biggest should go to all the whites who leave the country because of AA and BEE. I am black and "well read", but cannot get a job even where I am suitably qualified and experienced. Perhaps I ahould also nominate myself for remaining in RSA. - Lekaku |
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Paw Paw Award for the DA 06/05/2008 10:25
Hellen Zille should take credit for this. The DA are abusing Judge Erasmus because they are opposed to his chairing an enquiry to determine whether the DA abused our taxpayers for political purposes. Now, they are even going to the High Court so to prevent their dirty laundry from aired. For a party that loves publicity, this is an own goal and a deserving PP award - LvH |
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YAWN!!! 06/05/2008 10:25
Like you've never done anything stupid. ohh as for AA, do you homework first. - Boni |
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Its not about race 06/05/2008 10:28
but the fact that "The highest tress always catches the most wind" all the figures mentioned was the people thats always in the news and the world laugh at them. Why do you always need to bring race in. Its the best trick black people created was letting white people think they are all racist where its not true at all - Acid0 |
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Paw Paw for the Writer 06/05/2008 10:29
Internal Affairs? I thought it was called Home Affairs.
A zimbabwean teacher looking for work in South Africa. what a great suprise, we have enough teacher than we gave them packages, but for reasons known only to the writer, we should now find more Zimbabwean teachers with no special skills that is needed in the country? Yes, if this was intended as humour, it certainly qualifies to laugh at this joker (ignorant one at that) - Len Anderson |
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Good one 06/05/2008 10:29
Great Article GIRL!!!!! Welldone - Marc S |
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@Calvin. "AA Forever" = Useless forever 06/05/2008 10:39
Saying AA will always be required is saying that blacks will always need help to stand on their own. Will blacks always receive low grade education? Will they never get to the same merit levels as whites and always need government intervention? AA is there to correct an imbalance. Saying AA should be around forever is saying the government will never correct that imbalance.
Do you just enjoy the AA because whites suffer or do you think blacks will never lift themselves?
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AA for white women 06/05/2008 10:42
White women are the biggest beneficiaries of AA/EE. That is a fact - L |
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Karenq 06/05/2008 10:47
You'll be unpleasantly suprised to learn that I started working in 1984 and that I have seen a lot of white people without merit who landed lucritive jobs and promotions because they needed a helping hand. Regrettably, this has not necessarily stopped, it is only that it becomes a problem once it starts benefitting blacks. How about a debate and see who deserves a pawpaw? - Lekaku |
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Paw Paw Award 06/05/2008 10:51
Goes to Lize Freislich
Internal Affairs is a department that does not exist in South Africa.
Degrees in education would imply the Zimbabwean lady could have gone to England or anywhere where teachers are needed. Perhaps it is the fact that her degree is hardly rare that makes her continued work as a maid possible, something done by our own local teachers. - L |
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To black people.. 06/05/2008 10:52
..I apologise...I did not mean ALL black people... - jannie |
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It's getting tough 06/05/2008 10:54
Can we atleast share some ideas on how to fight or over come the cost of living, there is a crisis in S.Aprices are going up,but instead we find time to make jokes.What did you as an individual do to change the situation or helpthe government of other helpless people. - Lisa |
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oh my word... 06/05/2008 10:54
i have just realized, everytime someone criticizes a PRESENT and CURRENT situation in SA that is only due to incompetence(i emphasise the word CURRENT, there the response from the black folks is bringing up PAST enforcers of apartheid. its obvious there is no real defense for the ANC other than saying "Was Piet Koorenhof a genius? What about Pik Botha?" its getting pretty old justifying CURRENT corruption and incompetence with past evils. ANC propaganda is effective yes? - mp3's mentor |
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Whatever woman 06/05/2008 10:57
I agree with you 100% Kolobe. It didn't take this lilly white woman too long to start criticising things that are meant to level the economic and social playing field in this country. Things that are supposed to uplift black people in other words. I don't even want to go into the circumcision issue. She's acting like it's only a black thing. Jews get circumcised sisi in case you forgot. Maybe you're too used to your husbands dirty little foreskin dangling at the end of his shaft. She deserves the Paw Paw prize for ignorance and stupidity. - Bra Darkie |
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I see nothing funny about this 06/05/2008 11:04
Lize your article started off well enough, but then you did what most white people do and turned it into a govt. bashing. There's nothing funny about the political situation we face so this idea that we should all join you in laughing about it is absolutely ridiculous. - VG |
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Graduate 06/05/2008 11:05
Today I am a BCom Graduate and am employed as an Accountant by one of the biggest companies in this country and I do contribute positively to the success of the finance team. This would never ever been possible if BEE AA or Transformation was not implemented ? it is directly as a result of Transformation and AA that I could obtain bursaries to successfully complete my studies. The exclusion of Blacks from the mainstream of the economy for the major part of the previous century have led to the implementation of certain policies to enable our society to transform - should we have left this in the hand of whites and allow them to decide to include Black into that mainstream, if this would have been the case I would not been able to achieved the successes I have achieved to date. - colin |
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LvH - DA/Zille/Erasmus 06/05/2008 11:10
You know what, EVEN if she did use taxpayer money to spy, I welcome it. It was in an effort to root out corrupt politicians. Morkel and ahole-Chabaan. As a Joburger who moved to CT, the city is in good hands, and you can see it. The ANC can take a hike, wcape is not theirs. Haha. - Sinudeity |
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mp3's mentor - ANC Propaganda 06/05/2008 11:12
Their Propaganda methods is the BEST in the world. Taught to them by the white Russian communists. I have the most PERFECT example of ANC propaganda, but I think I'll save it for a future news24 article. - Sinudeity |
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Comments 06/05/2008 11:13
Tell me, why was my comment deleted where I questioned the objectivity of News24 and where I awarded a paw-paw to Jon Qwelane. Did I step on some tows here? - Danny |
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Loud applause 06/05/2008 11:20
Lize - I like it. Humour, more than a hint of truth. For all those who criticize the letter I suggest that you look up the word SATIRE. No WAIT .. you are probably too thick to Google, so ..... "SATIRE - A literary work in which human vice or folly is attacked through irony, derision, or wit.". Then add our D-Minister of EA who told parliament to sleep more, and get clever at the same time. Clearly she is a little short of sleep herself. Lize .. I WANT MORE!!!
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Pik Botha was a genius. 06/05/2008 11:26
Anyone that be the Minister of Foreign Affairs for a)the government of PW Botha, b)fighting a war agaist Cubans and Russians in Angola, c)South West wanting independance d)International sanctions, e)recalled foreign debt, and do it without the beficiaries of your domestic policy noticing much of a difference, has to be a genius, whether you like him or not. - mallencolly |
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LVH 06/05/2008 11:28
You know what , Zille can use my tax money for that Erasmus commision no problem. Rather that than it ends up in the one of the ANC's pockets. - charlie |
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colin the ignorant... 06/05/2008 11:31
colin my friend you speak based on emotion. anyone who has started a company will confirm that its hard enough competing with all the right resources,so if you think someone will hire an incompetant white over a more compentant black these days then you are stupid cause you need all the advantage you can get.so if you got the job because you are black then you obviously arent capable of getting it on merit.i have no problem with helping the poor with education but thats where it must end - mp3's mentor |
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