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Youth Day 'not about Zuma'
18/06/2008 08:18  - (SA)  

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    The commemoration of June 16 marks the bravery of young students around the country who stood up against the oppressive system of apartheid education.

    Youth leaders of that time such as Tsietsi Mashinini and others inspired the youth not just to fight against discriminatory educational policies of the National Party but against all forms of oppression suffered by blacks in South Africa. Their bravery, by putting their lives on the line, was motivated by the greater good which will transpire at the demise of this oppressive system.

    Though many of those leaders never lived to see the fruits of their sacrifices, most of us are beneficiaries of their sacrifices.

    It is with complete dismay and disgust that on June 16, the President of the ANCYL, one Julius Malema, overlooked the importance of the day and decided to sink deep into murky party waters with factionalist support for Jacob Zuma.

    While the ANCYL has a right to support whoever they prefer as a candidate for Presidency, the use of hate speech by Julius Malema to show support for Jacob Zuma is disappointing and should be condemned in strongest terms. His crass statement and his justification of what he meant by his speech is a hallmark and indictment of flawed and irresponsible leadership.

    Beyond politics

    The importance of June 16 pierces through political party lines and should not be devalued by empty rhetoric and comic theatrics - which is in contrast to what the 1976 generation stood for and died for. The 1976 generation never stood and died for an individual but stood and died for a cause which was not only noble in its intentions but served as a catalyst to the expansion of resistance against apartheid.

    The generation of 1976 stood and fought for a just cause against the oppressive system. But in 2008, the youth of South Africa are called by a Youth Leader to "take up arms and fight for Jacob Zuma". This clearly shows the ANCYL's obsession with Jacob Zuma to an extent that the bigger picture and events of historical importance are reduced to sectarian party lines.

    It is worrying that a leader of an organisation like the ANCYL has decided to embark on a political individualisation campaign which is scented with sectarian aroma and in the process dent and soil the importance of June 16 day.

    If the commemoration of June 16 will be sunk to such lows to score cheap political points as Malema has successfully done, it means the importance of the day has been sacrificed at the altar of political individualisation which is a complete betrayal to the ideals which was the hallmark of the 1976 generation.

    While Malema and others might think that making such rogue statements is a sign of militancy which the ANCYL is renowned for, let them remember that empty-headedness should not be mistaken for rational and reasonably militancy.

    The youth of South Africa is yearning for responsible leaders who are going to take this country forward and lead as past leaders like Tsietsi Mashinini and others proved successfully.

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      Julius Malema
    18/06/2008 08:25
    Is an idiot and the more we focus on this self absorded imbecile, we will end being sidetracked by dimwits who represent less than 1% of the youth of this country. Thank goodness, I am no longer considered youth, otherwise this nimcampoop might think he represent me. - Lvh
     
      Finally..
    18/06/2008 08:30
    A voice of reason in a sea of madness. Thanks for a straight-talking article Hlabangwane, it is appreciated. - Thomas
     
      Youth Day
    18/06/2008 08:36
    Unfortunately with the way the bulk of the youth population behave in SA today, we should change the name of this holiday to "thug day" - KevinD
     
      We need wisdom
    18/06/2008 08:39
    The right leadership can totally make or break a country. (For a good example, look north of our borders at what once was the 'breadbasket of Africa'.) All of us South Africans, both Black and White, need South Africa to be successful, with a growing economy, overseas investment and more job creation. This will only happen with wise leadership. We do not need wild inflammatory statements from supposed future leaders like Malema. He should hang his head in shame. We need leaders with wisdom. - Doug
     
      I'm gobsmacked
    18/06/2008 08:40
    The ANCYL is a disgrace to the ANC and to South Africa. Our country is being overrun by people who doesn't seem to understand that you cannot go around saying that you will kill other people. It doesn't matter in which context you are saying it. So many good things have been done to unify our people and to establish a credible democracy since 94, but now this fool comes along and f%$&s it up again!! - konstabel
     
      Did SABC play the whole
    18/06/2008 08:41
    Speech?Much as I condemn what Malema said at the closure of his speech, I am also alarmed by how our media can only copy one section of the speech and sensationalise it.Our media has a big problem as well. - Martin Radebe
     
      Julius is an evolutionary mistake
    18/06/2008 08:41
    Whilst julius may believe he is living up to the ANC youths revolutionary ideals, I fully agree with the author that emptyheaded comments simply indicate the evolutionary (devolutionary perhaps?) mistake that is the ANC Youth League. This is not a black white issue - I`m not calling Julius a baboon because of his colour - I mean Barak is black and well isnt he fantastic. Julius is a baboon because he behaves like one. ANC Youth will never aspire to lead the country - they just arent smart enough - Stryker
     
      Response
    18/06/2008 08:45
    I would expect the ANC to publicly condemn these remarks and subsequently punish Julius Malema (he represents the ANC after all). Not only is he enticing violence (I don't care how anyone tries to spin this); he is also stating that it is OK to disregard the judiciary system and democracy in order to get what you want. - Hein
     
      Political Rhetoric
    18/06/2008 08:46
    What a well written commentary. It saddens me to see so many of our so called leaders lack the political maturity to separate party from government. The other obvious observation is that once change takes place the "struggle" or "movement" is replaced by a political party and the will of the people is exercised by the BALLOT not by the bullet. Maturity then requires acceptance should there be a legitimate change; not threats of violence. Threats are the words of a spoilt child. - Watcher
     
      Full marks
    18/06/2008 08:46
    Good article! The failings of Africa are that one man (be it Mugabe or Zuma or Amin or Kaunda etc etc) becomes, or makes himself larger than the cause. We should all be vigilant of this as it steers a country down the wrong path. - Selous
     
      South Affrica and its Hooligans
    18/06/2008 08:47
    So typical of the ANCYL to promote violence. Kid soldiers without a war to fight. THIS is what African kids have to grow up with. Racism will NEVER die with violence loving assholes like Malema in charge ANYWHERE. Dug this quote: "Inspired the youth not just to fight against discriminatory educational policies of the National Party". Yet, even though, were in a democracy now, schools still get burnt down, and kids still refuse education. Africans are LAZY! - Sinudeity
     
      The folly of youth?
    18/06/2008 08:47
    Your point about the dilution of the sentiment of 16/06/76 is spot on Hlabangwane.This chaps uterrances however are an indictment on the past and current leaders of the anc.Has he been groomed this way by them?.You want real leaders to stand up now that you see all you have is pied pipers leading you to the river of blood.We are witnessing the process of becoming a tyranical dictatorship with "leaders" who have cult status.We wont get real leaders in SA until we have real balance of power. - psycobabble
     
      Malema
    18/06/2008 08:47
    Everything in our country is politicised nowadays so this latest episode should surprise no one. Crikey, even school governing bodies are afflicted by politicisation - Peter
     
      YOUTH DAY
    18/06/2008 08:48
    My biggest concern lately with these commemoration days is that instead of celebrating the real heroes, the politicians easily hijack it to promote their filthy agendas. In the past it was 16 Dec and now 16 June. I think the sooner it be changed to some family picnic day, the lesser the chance exists for some silly aspirant clot to abuse this imortant day. - MARIO
     
      ANC juvenile delinquants league
    18/06/2008 08:49
    How is it that people who claim to be "liberators" have no respect for human rights. Killing people is human rights abuse. When this child was in COSAS he used to lead students into downtown JHB, vandalising hawkers stalls and thus depriving poor black people of their liveliehood.This illustrates total emotional maturity. Like Mugabe, the nationalist party and all other dictators he thinks he has the right to beat anyone up that disagrees with him. - Phillip
     
      Paranoia
    18/06/2008 08:49
    When will the paranoia of black people come to an end? No single party, ethnicity or person poses a threat to the ANC and or JZ why the constant antagonistic behaviour? Does it really come as a surprise to you Hlabangwane that Zuma's supporters are ready to take up arms when he sings of his machine gun at every opportunity? Although your view is commendable it is far from the underlying views of many ANC supporters who are paranoid of losing jobs they've already taken and laws they've passed - Cabbo
     
      ANCYL is disgusting
    18/06/2008 08:49
    He should be fighing for disadvantaged youth to get funding to further their education. This ANCYL is disgusting, they think that because ANC is the leading party they can do or say whatever they want. - W
     
      Blatant arrogance
    18/06/2008 08:49
    These ancyl socalled leaders are best known for their arrogance and( if not) ignorance. An empty tin sounds louder that's why these cheap noise. He is eyeing a higher post in Zoooooma's camp. Idiot. - MJOMANA
     
      INSANE!!!
    18/06/2008 08:50
    I agree 100% that Youth Day isn't about Zuma! I'm also 100% AGAINST any reference to violence in public speeches & these should be banned... How can any idiot suggest to the 'youth' that they will be willing to pick up arm to kill for Zuma? SHOWS THE MENTALITY OF THE PERSON making the comment!!! Mr Nelson Mandela himself was against this type of behaviour & he is the closest thing to God himself... Why is it ok to promote violence now? Also, I respect Zuma, but ban 'bring me my machine gun'!!!!!! - Neutral
     
      I'm with Kevin D on this one...
    18/06/2008 08:52
    Thugs are exactly what a large portion of them are. No respect for anybody else, not even themselves. But thugs might even be a bit light in the pants for what some of them are prepared to do. I?m still considered a youth, but I?d like to think my emotional and intellectual maturity will keep me from becoming as sheep-like as they seem to have become. A study had panel of 4 people, only 1 of them wasn?t planted. Simple question, with only 1 VERY obvious answer. 2 of the 3 actors were asked to answer first. Both got it wrong, on purpose. Approx. 75% of the time, the 1 guy not planted, would fall in with them. ANCYL falls right in there. Sheep-like thugs. - chillepeppa
     
      Julius
    18/06/2008 08:52
    I would condemn the ANCYL leader but that would lend credence to his claim as a leader. You cant be a leader while still swinging from the trees like Julius Malema. The man is stupid plain and simple. Nuff said - Enough
     
      Irresponsible ANCYL President
    18/06/2008 08:53
    I am no more a youth, but i was so disappointed to hear the so called Youth President adressed SA youths about how they should support Zuma & kill. I was expecting a fruitful message from him,everyone has a right to support whoever prefer as a best candidate for presidency. He proved himself as a irresponsible leader like Zuma and this should be condemned in strongest terms.Ons is moeg to hear about Zuma there are so many leaders that can rule responsible - TLAKI
     
      Idiot
    18/06/2008 08:56
    Nice article Hlabangwane. Not only must Julius Malema's statements be condemmed,he should be dismissed immidiately. That would send the right message to the youth. I'm afraid to say, but we have another dictator bafoon in the making. Sad. - Camel Man
     
      Julius
    18/06/2008 08:58
    This guy is only talking for himself and his stupid organization. The majority of the SA youth will not support such foolish statements. - MM
     
      stunned
    18/06/2008 08:58
    amazing! So there are people out there who still remember why the government chose to celebrate youth day! Good article, hell, response, Hlabangwane! - Denis
     
      youth day
    18/06/2008 08:58
    I am deeply saddened that this has not only happened on youth day, but during the time of my youth.This century, a supposed 'leader' of the youth has nothing but encouraged violence with his irresponsible statements. the youth of today has so many challenges facing them, drugs/crime/dropping out of school(which i think he did himself)for which they have to be encouraged off. his statement has not place in the mind of a young person today.im certainly not part of the youth which he 'represents' - Odirilwe
     
      ANCYL
    18/06/2008 08:59
    With "Sooooo" much potential and future talent in the ANCYL it's a pity that they always seem to elect zoo keepers.... erm, sorry, leaders with their own hidden agendas! - Vernon Wolf
     
      problem is
    18/06/2008 09:02
    Every public holiday or funeral,something is utterred in which the ANC supposedly distances itself later on, after the media outcry.If it is not "we will kill for Zuma", it is "kill a ..[one or other ethnic minority]", or "ignore the courts" or something other of the sort.One usually speak more moderately in public, than in private.How long before all South Africans openly say to each other, to organisation that claims to be governing this country, is rotten to the core? - kwk
     
      Alarmist Army
    18/06/2008 09:02
    It seems that it has become a consistent media ploy to misinterpret and MISUSE comments in such a way to create alarm and sensation amongst those who are so impressionable about these things. It also then confirms the claim that we do have counter-revolutionaries in our midst and as the first-line of defence,we will protect our Leaders in their perusance of the NDR which is in the spirit of the youth of June 16. To what extent will YOU go to protect a process we are still fighting for? - Cape Town Kid
     
      Malema
    18/06/2008 09:05
    Julius Malema lacks a key ingredient for rational, responsible leadership. That ingredient is intelligence. His statement can only serve to tarnish the image of our democracy further. While we as South Africans might be able to contextualize his statement and dismiss it as reckless and self-serving factionalism, people outside of South Africa will view it a seed for the type of political dysfunction we see in so many African countries. Are these really our future leaders? - Frank
     
      Malema
    18/06/2008 09:10
    The ANCYL are a bad joke. If Julius thinks his "explanation" of his comment fools anyone he is a bigger idiot than we thought. He says the time to kill is not yet and that they will resort to any lengths for Zuma. Zuma is not the country or freedom. The youth fought against apartheid, not a person, they fought for freedom not a leader. Shades of Mugabe and his "war veterans"? Will the youth realise that they are being used or are they still so eneducated? - Birdman
     
      Good Points ...
    18/06/2008 09:10
    I see more and more evryday that the current leader ship in the ANC forgot the people who died for freedom. They are only in there for one thing and thats personal gain and self enrichment. MASSES Open your eyes , These thugs dont give a damn about you , they are open mouth liers !! - bongani
     
      Hlabangwane X2
    18/06/2008 09:11
    Not a bad comment, how come people like you sit in the wings and Clowns like Julius Malema are elected to ANCYL, how young do you have to be in order to be in a youth league. Surely this old fart has missed the boat? How many peolpe does he represent? - Nick
     
      Bad Influance on Economy
    18/06/2008 09:12
    Politicians should think before they talk. It is comments like this that is creating a bad image to the rest of the world and it is keeping investors away, influancing our economy and exchange rate and therefor the fuel price, food prices and eventually inflation is going up. - Steve 2
     
      Cape Town Kid - What?
    18/06/2008 09:14
    Using ANOTHER typical ANC excuse "Misinterpreted". Counter revolutionaries?! You talking about Mbeki supporters? The WAR was over 14 years ago?! Which struggle are you fighting? You and folks with your oldschool mentality is whats bringing this country down, and making the ANC look like idiots. WE NEED TO IMPROVE THE COUNTRY, NOT THE LEADERS!!! - Sinudeity
     
      ANCYL schoolboys
    18/06/2008 09:14
    My response to this idiot is so long I put it on my blog. http://mynewsblogs.24.com/ViewBlog.aspx?blogid=b4d0a5e1-30bd-4f91-8ed0-c2643f7776a1 Imagine if the FF+YL president made such a statement about Terreblanche? And the ANC response is piss poor - Filemon
     
      Julius Malema - you're the man
    18/06/2008 09:19
    We need a split in the ANC to have a better democracy - H@H
     
      The Media...
    18/06/2008 09:20
    The Media have every right to highlight these inflamatory words, since the media focus on what is NEWSWORTHY, and when you say things like 'kill for' and 'die for', of course that's what is going to be reported. Malema, as a political leader, should be aware that it is wordslike that which will be reported, and thus not say them. You cannot blame the media for reporting what he has said - look to the person who uttered the remarks, not the media! The media are the last true bastion of democracy! - A Journalist
     
      Julius
    18/06/2008 09:22
    Can someone lock this stupid criminal far away from our communities. What kind of a leader is he? It is people like him that are ruining the image of our beautiful country. - MM
     
      Cape Town Kid
    18/06/2008 09:23
    The answer is easy. Gandhi said that he would "die for the cause" but not kill for it. I will die for the democracy and human rights of all South Africans. I protested physically and verbally against the waterkloof 4, the idiots from bloemfontein as well as violent crimes. But I will never kill or hurt another human. I still believe we can peacefully unite South Africa and be a lighthouse and example for other developing nations. - Andrew
     
      Excellent article Hlabangwane
    18/06/2008 09:24
    But its because of people like Malema that makes us coloureds feel like 2nd class citizens - ICEMAN
     
      Do not be hoodwinked by the white media
    18/06/2008 09:24
    He said so figuratively and not literally, by the way for some of us English is not our mother tongue or 1st language. Do not play into the hands of the white media'sensationalizing and distortions. Also don't believe in all you read in the white owned biased newspapers. His statement was blown out of proportion. - Calvin Mkhize
     
      Vernon Wolf
    18/06/2008 09:25
    You know I have so often seen that comment - so much potential and talent in the ANCYL. As far as I know - potential is converted to action at some point in time. Where the hell do you see potential or indeed talent amongst these idiots? If they arent fighting amongst themselves they are calling for death and mayhem. Please show me the potential and talent because I sure as hell cant see it. - Stryker
     
      Cape Town Kid
    18/06/2008 09:26
    You are the ignorant one my friend. "Misinterpret"? "Misuse"? There is no misinterpretation. He quite clearly sais that they will "KILL" for Jacob Zuma. Not "die" for Zuma, but "kill" for him. So f-off! I am alarmed. I am alarmed that a 20-something idiot can, (1) become president of a youth league and (2) by MISUSING his capacity as a leader can utter such irresponsible crap. Want to know why our economy is faltering?... Because investors are scared of our IDIOT ARMY! That includes you. - Jaz
     
      Sensible comments
    18/06/2008 09:26
    Despite a great article and some sensible comments by and large, we cannot avoid the fact that come election time 80% of the population vote for this insufferable stupidity. Realistically it is an insurmountable obstacle I'm afraid. - AJ
     
      Uncalled for
    18/06/2008 09:27
    The remarks made by the ANCYL leader on a day that encompasses so many emotions for so many pipl in our dear country was Uncalled for.I feel he misrepresented the youth of today that has benefitted so Much from the sacrifice and stance made by the youth of '76.Youth Day, a day of commemoration, should be just that a Day of Remembrance, of the many lives that were lost.Youth of '76 fought for us of today including the president of the ANCYL.Not 4 pushing AGENDAS! - Miss O
     
      ANCYL
    18/06/2008 09:27
    The ANCYL has discredited itself so badly of late that I wonder that anyone takes them seriously.The previous leader was so far beyond his youth before stepping down it made a mockery of the organisation.Then the voting process which made Malema leader was so full of antagonism,intimidation and lack of respect for due process that I doubt he is a true representative in any case.They should not be grandstanding and making irrelevant political statements.There are more important issues than this - DW
     
      Julius Caesar... Malema I mean... seeking an Empire?
    18/06/2008 09:32
    Do we have a dictator in the league? - ElectroMan
     
      Julius is a Careerist
    18/06/2008 09:33
    Julius is just using this irresponsible outbursts to rise within the ANC. Once he gets a top job or contracts within goverment he will go into a deafening silence. Remember how vocal Sam Shilowa was when he was still in the union? When last did you see or hear him voice an opinion about anything? - Olivia
     
      Truth will prevail!
    18/06/2008 09:33
    Im glad that "Julius Malema" is not "Umzulu" becuase we as Zulu's are regarded stupid, irresponsible tribe who are always think of war other then anything, so what Malema siad is the justfication of xenophobic attack which was projected to us as Amazulu. - mvore
     
      Youth day ironic
    18/06/2008 09:34
    It is ironic that youth day is meant to celebrate freedom and democracy.Never have we been so 'unfree' with the rampant crime. - Bruce J
     
      Sad, so sad
    18/06/2008 09:34
    This is a sad indictment of the ANC as it reflects the quality of leadership and the values inculcated within the organization. This is not an isolated comment, Zuma has made many inflammatory utterances in the past and the behavior of the youth league appears to tolerated. If this is the leadership of the future, I'm out of here! - Jonathan
     
      Calvin Mkhize - White Media
    18/06/2008 09:36
    Always black and white... But as a question. Wasn't his 'Kill for Zuma' statement reported on news24? And are you NOT commenting on a news24 forum? Why are you not reading your "Soweto Star"? "White Owned Media" is just your way of saying "Not government controlled" or "Censored". But, with all due respect, 'white media' news is better. And you know it. - Sinudeity
     
      ANCYL
    18/06/2008 09:37
    ...is desperately looking for a cause to keep it relevant.But sadly, by seeking to keep "the revolution" alive they don't realise that those days are gone. As a nation we need to be working hard at creating unity and fighting real challenges like poverty.These clowns see the ANCYL as nothing more than a ticket to parliament and wealth. - VG
     
      @Calvin M
    18/06/2008 09:37
    Why do you always have to turn it into a racial issue? Is your view so narrow? It's a humanatarian issue and Maleme has had ample time to respond and clarify the matter if it was misinterpreted. - Andrew
     
      Cape Town Kid
    18/06/2008 09:38
    This idiot(malema) has repeated the same comments on Talk 702 .There is clearly to misintrepretation.... - Very Concerned
     
      Will the real morons please stand up...
    18/06/2008 09:39
    I see it has taken but a few weeks for the ANCYL to become a joke again, not that it was ever taken seriously in the first place. But I do enjoy the odd laugh at an embicile, of which Julius certainly is. Wow, to live in Africa where morons are revered. - Realist
     
      ANC
    18/06/2008 09:40
    Just as with his leaders in the senior ranks of the party, it is no longer about the cause, the ideology or the people. They are there just for themselves and their buddies, they enrich themselves beyond what's decent and are permanently drunk on their over inflated sense of importance. - Joe
     
      Zuma?
    18/06/2008 09:42
    What really bothers me, is that JZ approves of what Julius said. Or did I miss JZ condemnation of the way Julius incites violence? - jb
     
      Youth leader
    18/06/2008 09:42
    Well, well what a shame, who do you think you are to kill anyone for that matter regardless of what they have done. Kill for Zuma why? Just the other week we were reading an article about SAfricans' nature of violence and now this leader a role model speak of nothing but killing. Khutsong pple have vowed to kill too just because they want to be part of Gauteng Province, what is wrong with pple. What do you gain from killing, it will haunt you till you die. South Africans wake up from your slamber - Toe
     
      @ Calvin Mkhize
    18/06/2008 09:43
    You are probably part of the same ANC Kindergarten League. Simple Malema's statements were broadcast on the ANC mouthpiece the SABC. Do not blame things on white newspapers or the use of the english language. How would you know? You probably can not read therefore a good candidate to succeeed Malema - Filemon
     
      Spot on Hlabanwane, VIVA!!!
    18/06/2008 09:45
    Brilliant article mate. With black guys such as yourself it'll be an honour and priviledge to die for this country of ours. It's obvious that u're a loyal and proud south african longing to stay in a peaceful country lead by leaders with vision and integrity. Now if only everyone (black and white) can share that same vision south africa can get rid of all the blood flowing in our rainbow nation. VIVA HLABANGWANE VIVA!!! - Morne
     
      Mother tongue is no excuse
    18/06/2008 09:47
    We have to move past any talk about killing, anything that tells people that the end justifies the means. Unfortunately Malema truly represents a large potion of our society, and nobody is doing much to put them straight. Therefore Malema is the ugly reality of how morally sick our country is. Let's all watch what we say and think, that's a start. As far as I know, inciting violence is still a crime. Why wasn't he arrested? - Pieter Joubert
     
      Cape Town Kid and Calvin Mkhize
    18/06/2008 09:52
    it's quite obvious that you are both here day in, day out with the sole intention of stirring the pot. Are your real lives really that sad? As for Malema, well he's an idiot. There's no miscommunication or misinterpretation. He hijacked Youth Day and all it stands for to get a few shots off. The ANC condemn it, but only after the damage is done. This clown shouldn't even be allowed a platform to speak from. - Jas
     
      Context? What context?
    18/06/2008 09:52
    We can uhm and ah about whether Malema is quoted out of context or not. The fact is that he is talking civil war, and on e-TV he justified his statement with outdated Marxist rhetoric. He clearly does not know what democracy is, what the rule of law means, and he clearly does not even know what the Marxist rhetoric that he uses means. God help us if Malema is representative of future leadership. Responsible and liberal black leaders must now stand up and be counted. - Arjen
     
      They will kill for Zuma
    18/06/2008 09:53
    If I understand the ANCYL leader correctly then he said that they (the ANCYL) will KILL all the people who are against the black revolution. In other words according to him it means all the other political parties apart from the ANC. This could also be seen as an indirect threat to the white population of South Africa. - JB
     
      Misinterpreted!!!!
    18/06/2008 09:54
    My first comment was not posted because it was considered pro-ANC/ANCYL-JZ.And i still maintain the fact that Malema did not actually mean what most of you people & the media are screaming about.Ppl will always find a way to diss the ANC & that doesn't surprise me at all.And yes "I'll also kill to make Jz a State Prez & right now, i can kill to get a hot cup of coffee with cream".Now analyze that!! - Les-Maada
     
      What ?
    18/06/2008 09:54
    Do you call burning books and breaking windows "bravery" ? - Stefaans
     
      He should apologize for hate speech.
    18/06/2008 09:58
    This young man ?Malema? must apologize to the public for his hate speech. If it was a mistake he should indicate to us, he should not try to justify all these nonsense he had said. The youth day was never being made for him to serve his interest as a president of the ANCYL, but for the whole citizens of the country. This day was not even made for the President of the ANC to serve his interest. The day 16 June should be used efficiently and effectively and we should use it to commemorate the events that happened on that day, and it should also benefit the youth as a whole not as an individual. I am very disappointed!! - Maanda
     
      Malema does not worry me.....
    18/06/2008 09:58
    ...but idiots like Calvin and Cape Town Kid really frighten me. Malema was intervied on 702 and was NOT misquoted. It is hard to believe that many talented members of the ANCYL actually voted for this moron. - Lloyd Macklin
     
      And it is not only South Africa
    18/06/2008 09:59
    Politicisation of national memorials is a sign of weak leadership, in this case the ANCYL. George Bush does the same thing. Everything that happens in America at the moment is linked to "the war on terror". The world has never been in worse shape leadership-wise. Jacob Zuma epitomises that weakness. We have no leaders or parties that truly have a platform on which to run. The ANC/PAC run on Apartheid, the DP runs on finding fault, the rest don't matter. A vacuum of values. The future is bleak! - Excalibur
     
      Thanks...
    18/06/2008 09:59
    Thanks for reminding us what youth day used to be about. It's not surprising that it did not focus on education this year. 14yrs+ and the education system is still not delivering for the black youth. It's Ok though, maybe the day should be about Zuma, he did not have an education. Blind leading the blind. - Rian
     
      @ Calvin the baboon and Cape Town Idiot
    18/06/2008 10:00
    Yes, we misunderstood his statements, he meant to say that from now on the ANC useless League will help old ladies cross the street, support the judiciary and abide by the laws of this country. Clearly the "white" media took the "kill" and "die" statements out of context as they always do. Pity these idiots didn't finish school - something which has relevance with youth day! Maybe they should also go for mother tongue education, clearly the English does not work for them! - BigBang
     
      Discipline is needed
    18/06/2008 10:11
    The ANC needs to ensure that the ANCYL are disciplined. The Julius Malema, must be taken to task & criminal proceedings need to be implemented for inciting violence. The government needs to take a stand against this militant & anarchial behaviour. If they don't, then they are equally as guilty of not standing behind what their own constitution is supposed to represent. - Malcolm X
     
      Rotten Head
    18/06/2008 10:26
    If the leader of the ANC himself publicly and ignorantly sings "letha umshini wami" (bring my machine gun), what should we expect his followers (ANCYL) to be saying? No suprise that they are willing kill for that leader. He himself is inciting violance by this song. That is why he (Zuma) didn't even condem Malema on that day. Shame on the youth of today. - Thokozani
     
      @ Cape Town Kid
    18/06/2008 10:28
    A while back my 60 year old domestic worker was almost in tears - she described her fear for what she calls the "cruels". She does not have one good word for the youths in her township. - now I understand why - she is "counter-revolutionary" !!! and should be killed according to you and Malema! - MC
     
      Les maada and other idiots
    18/06/2008 10:30
    He confirmed on 702 that he meant what he said and meant it literally. Even if he did not, as you believe, it is a dumb thing to say to a group of youngsters who are easily influenced and quick to get aggressive or violent. Your precious ANC comrades are now stabbing each other at meetings! Has this ever happened in a DA or ID meeting? His statement is frightening and I and many other skilled people will flee the country if he keeps his promise. Then you can have SA and destroy it into a Zim. - LM
     
      malema immatured
    18/06/2008 10:40
    This boy is immatured,an idiot,insensitive,disrespectful and does not represent the youth. If so not me. He is just a populist and think he can use ZUMA 's problems to gain popularity. He does not belong to the anc.He belongs to high school politics of COSAS. We just had xhenophobic problems and he condemned it but today he will kill? - md
     
      Youth Day
    18/06/2008 10:42
    When I read about the speech of Malema, I was very upset but then I remembered the refrain: 1 settler 1 bullet. Where is that leader now? It is very sad that the ANC lack wise and responsible leaders. God is in control.We must pray for our country that it will fulfill its prophetic destiny. The Cape of Good Hope not The Cape of Storms. God bless Africa! - Hettie
     
      A voice in the wilderness.
    18/06/2008 10:43
    What joy, to read your comments and realise that there is hope for our country. Thank you for stating truthfully what exactly was said and meant. I was so frustrated yesterday by commentators from ANC stating we are misunderstanding, he did not mean what he said etc. Rubbish, he is a dangerous man in a dangerous position. He could cause untold harm and anarchy. He should be removed, and I for 1 pray that Mr.Kgalema Motlanthe becomes our President. Amen. - Alicia
     
      @Les-Maada re: Misinterpreted!!!!
    18/06/2008 10:44
    Thanks to the improved education system that the ANC has developed over the last 15years. I'm sure that the average man on the street understands the difference between figurative and literal speach. Bear in mind that the man on the street appears to believe that violence is the best means of dealing with difficult situations, like immigrants. I look forward to your post condemming the next wave of violent attacks that sure to follow when the JZ trial starts. - Rian
     
      Well Written
    18/06/2008 10:47
    Thanks man, good clear article... it's a pity though that the many members of ANCYL don't have access to the internet to view more logical and positive inspirational leaders. Sad that they rely only on rallies and gatherings, further blinkering and blinding their judgement through pathetic shallow propaganda. It's a pity that they cannot define propaganda. It's a pity that their 'voice' is that of a fool. I doubt that they believe Malema's rantings, but the timid sheep have no-one else to follow. - Greg
     
      Role modle
    18/06/2008 10:47
    Malema, you are a disgrace to our young generation.You should be fired from the ANC.If zuma is found guilty he must pay, like every other citizen in this country.We should look at new leaders in the goverment.Mandela should choose our leaders. - Lerato
     
      @Les-Maada
    18/06/2008 10:52
    Do you honestly believe the unruly louts who disrupted the Polokwane and the ANCYL congresses understood immediately that Julius was speaking figuratively? - jb
     
      Singing to the gallery of public opinion
    18/06/2008 10:55
    Save us from this rhetoric, you clearly are offering are offering less insight like the hordes of wannabies accusing Molema. Julius like all citizens of this beloved country has the right to air his views. This attempts to curb discerning voices is reprehensible, Rem: ?defending you right to have your say??. Molema is showcasing a view the public has been oblivious and it make for quite an interesting and an eye opening read. South African should learn to listen Molema stated a precondition to taking up arms, he?s was not a blanket statement like Uncle Eugen?s. - Piet Van Bieltong
     
      Clueless
    18/06/2008 10:59
    The ANCYL have once again shown that it is perhaps time to relegate them to the wastebins of history. This guy is acting like the typical BMW M car driver: arrogant, stupid, and thinking his views are the best. Time to perhaps have him killed? - Soulblade