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Simple
15/07/2008 13:00
It pays (literally) to be one the next king and almighty ruler's choms. That's how it works in Africa. Once you be come ruler, you (and your cronies) live a life of absolute luxury, whilst 'serving the people' (who voted for you) is purely a symbolic gesture. - Juan |
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Pitso I agree with you 100%
15/07/2008 13:06
All you need to do is take a look at the people one surronds themself with and you will get a good idea of who you may be dealing with. You also forgot to mention old Mr Shaik who was gulity as charged! Good article and it is nice to see a different point of view on the situation, hope people understand and take careful note! - wb |
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MASSIVE incentives, bru.
15/07/2008 13:08
'nuff said. And all this, mind you, at the cost of justice, fair play, etc.
Sies. - brandon |
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What Zumas friends have in common with Mandela
15/07/2008 13:10
They have all (or will be) in prison! - Sinudeity |
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Simple, they are paid.
15/07/2008 13:15
They are paid by the ANC for their services. Willem Heath is always "concern" about the integrity of the courts but it looks like he will do anything if the price are right. - Mike# |
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Zuma is guilty
15/07/2008 13:16
if he was not he wouldn't want to stop the investigations that are currently ongoing. If you innocent you don't try to stop any investigation against you as you know you have nothing to hide. But for the sake of peace in SA let's just drop his case and pray that the disease he tried to wash away with the shower kills him before elections next year. - Themba |
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100%
15/07/2008 13:18
PITSO FOR PRESIDENT! Zuma blows! - Francois |
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If Zuma is convicted
15/07/2008 13:18
My biggest concern is if Jacob becomes president, AND he's convicted of fraud. There are so many people, on the ground and up high in politics who have so much to lose.
I just hope the country doesn't become ungovernable because the people's demand for "their" leader isn't met. Then again he couldn't be any worse than Thabo. - Bob |
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Simple, they are paid.
15/07/2008 13:19
They are paid by the ANC for their services. Willem Heath is always "concern" about the integrity of the courts but it looks like he will do anything if the price are right. - Mike3 |
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EXCELLENT ARTICLE
15/07/2008 13:19
Well said my brother! You give me hope that just because you happen to be born a certain colour, does not mean you see everything by that colour! You courageously judge the facts and make a call accordingly, ignoring the skin colour. Of course many will call you a sell-out and so on.All they truly demonsrate is their lack of brains and inherent racism!. - p123 |
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Africa=corruption
15/07/2008 13:19
Unfortunately, Africa=corruption, and this has always been, except for tiny pockets here and the like Botswana, and Malawi to a degree. Great article. I wish we had an accountable leadership, who cared for the voters...all of us. But unfortunately they will continue to fleece the uneducated masses, who will continue to support them, just like in Zimbabwe. - VinnyTheSaffer |
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Good questions, Pitso
15/07/2008 13:21
Could Heath's inclusion have a chance of opening up the "arms deal" can of worms? Perhaps it is to get an advantage against the Mbeki faction to quash JZ's corruption charges. Either way it could be interesting - Filemon |
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anc
15/07/2008 13:23
im worried about the ordinary South African who gets fed propaganda every way they turn, protecting the institution? thats very interesting when you have cadres of this person they r representing attack the body at every chance they get. it is all hypocrtical and i am not a pessimist and as 4 SA, we will come ryt - yungsta |
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Well Written Pitso....
15/07/2008 13:26
...now I have question's for you. 1)Are you going to Vote for Zuma as our next president in the next election ? 2) If not, who then ? who will be able to lead our people & country into the future ???????????
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Agreed
15/07/2008 13:29
Well said. There are so many dodgy characters in powerful positions at the moment. I hope Zuma goes down. Boer - Boer |
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because he will be president...
15/07/2008 13:30
Zuma will be the next president and therefore all charges should be dropped.....that is the mentality of the 'friends' of his! Not that he shouldn't be president because of those charges! If the US had this situation would the candidate even bother running for president? I think not...he would be laughed at! - kevin |
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Brilliant article!
15/07/2008 13:30
Brilliant article! Can't wait to see Kolobe's response and how he turns it around on colonialists and racist whites. - exSA |
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DUH
15/07/2008 13:30
MONEY $$$$$$$$
thats what binds the ANC, government funding. Remove that, and the ANC will show its true colors... Not that we need that to see them. - Steve |
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like the others have said..
15/07/2008 13:36
It pays.In SA (and the world, mind you) the game of accumulating wealth and power, is all about reading the times.The Mbeki-Zuma changeover is little about conviction and ideology, and all about an entirely new set of inner circle beneficiaries.The three musketeers you mention all have it made for them in a post 2009 South Africa. - kwk |
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Pitso ? what are the chances......
15/07/2008 13:37
...that we all get together, spread the word like wild fire and make sure ZUMA does not come into power ? Please lets exclude Kolobe & Co from the exercise ""PLEASE"". Thanks. - Badger |
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So do you
15/07/2008 13:38
Everybody who wants to appear intelligent critisizes everything associated with Zuma. I have always maintained that don't take all blunders by Mbalula, Malema, Vavi, and now Heath, Ngobeni, Seepe etc and blame them on Zuma. As much as blunders by Manto, SABC and premiers are not blamed on Mbeki. Blame Zuma on his own acts. By the way, this painting game you play on Zuma is now heading the country towards civil war. Are u happy?! - Chris-T |
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Zuma is the King of Kingdom
15/07/2008 13:39
Zuma is going to this nation to glory and make us all wealthy. I think under his rule we will be on par to neighbour Zim , billionaires by the bucket loads. His excellent financial strategy based on his personal finance can be as is carried over to the dept of finance. With that in place China and India will fear the almighty South Africa. We will become what America is. - Thabo |
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Stomach politics
15/07/2008 13:41
The answer my friend is power and financial rewards in terms of government positions. Sipho Seepe and co. are repositioning themselves politically.People are only loyal to their stomachs. - Godfrey |
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People, people, people...
15/07/2008 13:41
... I don't know what all the fuss is about. Zuma will NEVER be found guilty (even if hypothetically he did do it). My little sister in grade 1 can act as his legal council, and he'll still walk free. - Lithium |
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why hate our leader and us
15/07/2008 13:41
Leave us alone, go go.It is our chance now. I wonder where you are going to migrate to. Ohh u can go to Botswana. - dnot4get2voteANC |
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lynch the afican
15/07/2008 13:45
Pitso nsizwa yakithi i think the are people who are paid to build a career as doomsday prophets for the country and the continent. your article doesnt add much more value so it seems like you looking for fans amongst the nuts who respond to News24 articles. by simply going to Google you would have been able to get a more balanced view on Paul Ngobeni instead of getting one biased opinion from the citizen and thus avoid looking stupid!!! - mabhoko |
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Please respect people's choices
15/07/2008 13:48
Mr Tsibolane, I think it is important to repsect people's choices. I mean SA is a democracy, if it was not, we would not have parliamentary "floor crossing" legislations and so on. Mssrs Seepe and Heath have made personal choices to support Mr Zuma and I think there is nothing wrong with that. Could you for a minute respect these men's choices? - JR |
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away from the madding crowd....
15/07/2008 13:48
Hi Pitso you echo my sentiments, but as we both know we can ONLY say these things in the "safety" of such websites where hardend followers of JZ, ANCcan ot toch us, try to say this in a shebeen or taxi rank and see if you will make it out of there intact!! and JZ, ANC knows that too..so well here mfana but these readers of your article cannot change the status quo, they will praise you but nothing can change, what we need in mzantsi is change....so dream on ...as I also do frees the mind ha ha : - Msholozi |
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Agree, but...
15/07/2008 13:48
Show me a politician anywhere in the world (including Mbeki) that is not corrupt and does not have a selfish agenda (even though it won't always be obvious)...just one...please. - Fraud |
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If JZ was not guilty as all he's fans claim
15/07/2008 13:48
Then why employ a team of lawyers that could have freed OJ simpson ??? Makes you wonder ,,, They should make govermunt jobs voluntree see if JZ would stil want it and do it for the people !! - charlie |
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Zuma for President
15/07/2008 13:49
You are gonna be labelled a counter revolutionary for this one my man. And guess what since there is no credible alternative to the ANC guess what i'll do next April: I will never vote and wish there aren't enough numbers in the next election to make them count. This will show these idiots that enough is enough, People are tired of this circus. Fortunately i am African I will never go to any other continent. - eugine |
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Good one
15/07/2008 13:50
Great Article. More dubious and suspicious activities surrounding JZ. One would think that given the amount of weird coincidences and constellations surrounding JZ any efforts on his side to maintain an image of open honesty are dead and buried ? nevertheless he will probably miraculously rise out of this dirt squeaky clean as our president and then all of us South Africans are expected to ?forgive and forget? and ?give him a chance??.you?ll see. - Stephan |
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Zuma's generals and lieutenants
15/07/2008 13:52
Lets identify them: Vavi, Malema, Tokyo, Willem, Seepe, Mo, Chippy please let us identify them, give us more... - Brian |
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Themba
15/07/2008 13:52
My brother, That was very insensitive of you to wish for such a thing to happen to a human being. What if it happens to your parents, relatives or closed friends? Think before you write my brother please!! - Pixen |
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Zuma and Taxes
15/07/2008 13:55
Zuma only RECENTLY started paying his taxes. After having charges against him, he paid all outstanding amounts. So, Zuma wants to be President, but unlike us, the people, he doesn't pay taxes?! That already should be enough for him to NOT RUN for president. Is there no one in SA, who is not greedy/corrupt who will run for presidency?! - Sinudeity |
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Pitso, good one & agree.
15/07/2008 13:55
If leaders are criminals, then what can be expected from the people they lead. I.e if he escapes the law, the people will expect the same treatment. Is it then not time for another transformation of the current regime & make-up of this country? I vote for a non-racist, non-biased, non-criminal, free and fair federated democratic system that SERVES all the citizens of RSA, that are professional & competent & accountable. Will the new transformed leaders please stand up. - Matrix |
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Zuma's not guilty
15/07/2008 13:56
so i see no reason why he can't have any "braintrust" he wishes.
Pitso, the courts haven't decided the man's fate, it's one thing to dismiss him as a fit leader but he can choose whoever he wants to help. - tshepo |
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@ Mabhoko
15/07/2008 13:57
How stupid are you??? Google Paul Ngobeni and the majority of the results are about his criminal/illegal activities!!! You idiot! hahahahaha go Pitso, us "nuts who respond to News24 articles" are behind you all the way! - Logic_Bomb |
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Zuma's case
15/07/2008 13:57
We all know that you innocent until proven guilty and let's not pass Judgemnt let the law take its course and for you Themba before you pass such comments on other people you better check your status first - Mzwandile |
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Democracy
15/07/2008 14:00
The fact that Jacob Zuma is president of the ANC AND running for president should say a lot of the none existing morals of the ruling party.
We will have through democracy until we elect our own leaders nationally and provincially.
Why vote for a party that decides who will lead us ? It does not make sense.
South Africa needs a black opposition political party to give the none performing ANC a wake up !!!
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Pitso the men
15/07/2008 14:00
I am out of words u just remind me of the past why we did what we did.
Don?t gain the world and lose your soul, wisdom is better than silver or gold. - dnot4get2voteANC |
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mabhoko - Doomsday prophets
15/07/2008 14:00
Or you mean, people who dont want a criminal as President? Guess that makes me one. Firstly, corruption charges (Shaiks in jail = Zuma guilty). Unfaithful, how many wives, and he still sleeps around? Doesn't pay his taxes, and lets face it, he aint the brightest of spark plugs. But I guess thats good enough for the ordinary African. - Sinudeity |
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Prejudice
15/07/2008 14:00
Your article smacks of prejudice as it wrongfully potrays ANC Prez Zuma as a guilty person who should not be supported by credible personalities. Out of all the garbage that you spit, your article fails to make any point. - Azania |
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@ mabhoko
15/07/2008 14:06
I followed your suggestion and googled Paul Ngobeni. Of the first 5 results, 2 mentioned him being involved in dubious affairs. Perhaps you should check your facts before admonishing others? - slapper |
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@Mabhoko...
15/07/2008 14:07
I'll Google Ngobeni for that "balanced view". Is it as balanced as "two wrongs make a right"? I'll let you know that a person who illegally practises law for 12 years belong in jail forever IRRESPECTIVE of the reasons for his actions - balance is not the issue, honesty is. I understand that Africans have a problem digesting the concept of honesty but I'll ALSO let you know that many Africans are achieving this elusive goal and the "old guard" of Africa will soon be gone. Get with the program! - Tuffy |
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love of money
15/07/2008 14:11
They are involved with the man not because of his leadership skills but because he will probably be Head of state next year, they don't love him, they just see an golden opportunity,they love money - Bokamoso |
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People, people, people...
15/07/2008 14:15
... I don't know what all the fuss is about. Zuma will NEVER be found guilty (even if hypothetically he did do it). My little sister in grade 1 can act as his legal council, and he'll still walk free. - Lithium |
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@mabhoko - nut
15/07/2008 14:17
Your a clown, look around and see "who is sleeping with who" in politics. The people surrounding JZ are just as narrow minded as him, they want to line their pockets, just like the current ANC big wigs are doing. Birds of a feather, flock together".PS You reponded to News24 - idiot?
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Mzwandile - Innocent Until Guilty
15/07/2008 14:20
So why is he fighting so hard? Why are the Scorpions being disbanded? Why did Zuma go to Mauritius to intercept documents? Why does he roadblock the NPA at any oppertunity? If I was innocent, Id help as much as I can. Its what any innocent person would do. Zuma is Guilty. You and I, and he knows it. - Sinudeity |
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No more party politics!!
15/07/2008 14:22
Every politition in SA will drop his/her morals/values for a better/longer job or money. They always look out only for Nomu Uno. We should go the Germany route, one MP per voting district, MP MUST LIVE IN DISTRICT, MP preferrably shouldn't belong to party. And make the president only a figure head. - HVR |
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"NO VOTE"
15/07/2008 14:29
your opening phrase said it all, and by the way the Malema's, Vavi's, Manthashe's,etc are going to see you as a thread towards their amrching towards attainment of whatever they require - then start spitting fire or bark at you(knowngly that they would turn around and say they were taken out of context/misunderstood).For next year's elections: let the majority of us stay home and enjoy free holiday"NO VOTE" - ntukuzwane |
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The Zuma Brains Trust.
15/07/2008 14:30
Spot on Pitso!I was thinking about this just last night.The likes of Albert Luthuli, Govan Mbeki, Nelson Mandela,Hector Pietersen & an entire generation did not give up their lives, literally & figuratively speaking,to see this country ruled by the current crop of ANC cadres.Julius Melema is starting to sound like Hitler, Stalin, Magnus Malan, BJ Vorster, Verwoerd & PW Botha all rolled into one with his "eliminate" them speeches!I believe in the principals of the ANC, but no longer in the leaders - Grace |
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@Thabo
15/07/2008 14:34
I love THABO, i think his sarcastic comments rule:) Please keep commenting on these articles. Zuma sucks but i bet he can't be worse then Thabo so if he wins lets just hope that all goes ok except the crime must come down. - Stinkbug |
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Arms deal in perspective
15/07/2008 14:35
What these gentlemen are trying to do is to put the arms deal into perspective with regards to Zuma'a role in it. Read Andrew Feinstein's book " After The Party " you will get a much better perspective. It is very easty to bash Zuma, but what about others that were not investigated? What was Mbeki's role in the arms deal? Makes you think doesn't it? - Mzekezeke |
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@ Pixen
15/07/2008 14:37
Unfortunately or furtunately none of my relatives nor parents use or suggest using the shower will cure what medics can't cure. I am still praying for that though. - Themba |
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lynch the afican
15/07/2008 14:38
Pitso nsizwa yakithi i think the are people who are paid to build a career as doomsday prophets for the country and the continent. your article doesnt add much more value so it seems like you looking for fans amongst the nuts who respond to News24 articles. by simply going to Google you would have been able to get a more balanced view on Paul Ngobeni instead of getting one biased opinion from the Citizen and thus avoid looking stupid!!! - mabhoko |
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Pitso!!!Ptso!!!Pitso
15/07/2008 14:38
Your comment is very interesting. Why are you worried about other people's friends? Who are you trying to market here? Is it Mr Zuma or his friends? I can see that you have also acquired some new friends with your baseless story. Can you tell us something new. We all know that people like you and your advantaged cyber friends are bitter. Don't be so predictable man, you are sooo boring Yakk. This is childish, why don't you also migrate to Zim or wherever or the nearest pond. Sureeee - Isos |
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What if!
15/07/2008 14:41
What if someone comes up as a candidate against Zuma and people because they are unhapp about Zuma decide to vote for this other individual...just in the unlikely event that this happens? We will have a Zimbabwe, where Zanu pf assumed they had won and when they found out that they had lost, they turned on the people! - Zimbo |
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This article is not balanced
15/07/2008 14:42
Why focus on Zuma's so called friends and not the fact that Jacob Zuma is a member of the ANC and also president on that party. That party has a NEC, and NWC which were voted on, by general members in Polokwane. Ramaphosa, Phosa, Sexwale, Pallo Jordan, are members of the NEC, are they also Zuma's friends? are they also dubious. - JOE |
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Democracy
15/07/2008 14:43
is what is motivating seepe. - Tebza |
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JZ is a thief
15/07/2008 14:46
What does it feel like being in the same company as Colombia, Somalia and other corrupt Turd World countries?
We will soon know once Jacob Zuma becomes our president!
Nobody would want to invest here or do business with us - except maybe the Mafia and the drug lords of the world's big crime syndicates...
I pray that JZ will go to jail. He deserves nothing better. As for the Malemas of the world - we'll sort you guys out quick-quick! - Frank II |
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Everybody is equal
15/07/2008 14:55
It is so interesting to see that so many people thinks that they are the gold standard. I gues you are the gold standard. I can promise you, most of the guys who lambast Zuma and the people around him, will make the devil himself green with envy, by their actions. If we can can criticize you, you will be quick to claim freedom of association, expression etc. Shame on you - thato |
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the ANC then and now
15/07/2008 14:56
I would love to see a balaned artical about the ANC how their ideals were when they began to where we are now. I don't have the talent for for it anybody else? - cameron |
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Oh my,
15/07/2008 14:56
14 Years after gaining the right to vote the population still do not know how to use it! Staying away from voting is not the answer - read the electoral laws and the other stuff that apply to elections. Votes are counted, irrespective of how few people voted. The winner is selected from the valid, entered votes. Your only chance to change your current and probable future lives is to vote for a political party that participates in a legal election. Vote for an independent if you must, but vote! - Tuffy |
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No morals , no integrity
15/07/2008 14:56
A man is judged by the company he keeps - Zuma has Vavi, Malema, Mantashe etc - says much about his character
The only reason these individual have embraced Zuma with such fervour is that they may have access to patronage, cronyism , government office to enrich themselves - ie follow the Mbeki model
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Arms deal in perspective
15/07/2008 14:59
What these gentlemen are trying to do is to give perspective to the arms deal and JZ's involvement in it. What was Mbeki's role in it? Why were other role players not investigated? Please read the book " After The Party " by Andre Feinstein. You will get a better perspective. I'm not Zuma's apologist, but I think the are powerful people out there who got away with murder. Selective justice is not justice at all. - Mzekezeke |
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@ntukuzwane
15/07/2008 15:05
Does South Africans not understand that a "no vote" would not make a difference. You need to vote for another party. - Mike3 |
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@ dnot4get2voteANC
15/07/2008 15:07
Who are "us"? - Mike3 |
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Zuuuma for President
15/07/2008 15:10
I have realised that this platform has established itself as an opposition party to the ANC. I am waiting for the next general elections and see if your opinions can be converted into votes. Good luck. Viva ANC. - Jones |
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zuma camp
15/07/2008 15:14
It is going to be impossible for Zuma to govern the country effectively , because he owes so many people favours . How is he going to compensate them ? . Only time will tell . - vuyo |
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Zuma for president?
15/07/2008 15:14
I personally dont want a future president that has for one example had to make a settlement deal with SARS for tax evasion. It's not acceptable. The president should be a man with integrity and good values. - Jeni |
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Excellent article
15/07/2008 15:14
It is when I read your views, that I unpack my bags and stop thinking about leaving my beloved country, infested with corruption. We need more men like you to step up to the plate now and save us from the "African Syndrome". This continent will always be a basket case in need of the First World's charity if we don't change our ways. I voted for a new future for my children in 94 and where are they today? In Europe with all the rest of the brains this country needs. - Colin |
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no vote - ntukuzwane
15/07/2008 15:19
your "free holiday" and "no vote" advice could cost you the last day of your freedom! Voting results run on pure mathematics and not sentiments. The only way to cut the ANC to size is a massive appearance of anti ANC voters. Vote on any conceivable party, do not worry or think about which one. Non votes and spilled votes enforce the biggest party (ANC). Votes to other parties reduce votes for the ANC. Cape Town is a good mini example of what can be achieved. - Benzo |
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The constitution
15/07/2008 15:22
of SA says it is wrong to judge people before a competent court issues a verdict. - Tebza |
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thato - freedom of association
15/07/2008 15:26
Comeon thato. They are zuma's buddies, because of the BIG slice of pie they will be getting. Why do you think EACH ANC meeting has broken out into violence and chaos? Because everyone is figting for the bigger slice of the pie! You're beloved ANC no longer cares about you, but only about their friends and family. YOU (And the Average ANC supporter) unfortunately, does not count. You will remain poor and without services for the rest of your lifes. I'm sorry. - Sinudeity |
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Shut up and let people make their choice as who they want to suuport you idiot.
15/07/2008 15:28
The fact of the matter is that JZ will be the next President of South Africa come next year. It doesn't matter what the racists and TM bitter supporters like Pitso feel about it. To Pitso, people have a right to support whoever they want to support so as you have a right to support Thabo Mbeki. - Vic |
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Whos guilty?
15/07/2008 15:31
I recon there were many people, inlcuding Mbeki, involved in this arms scandal. There are documented evidence of him flying to germany to set it up. These guys are helping Zuma, because if he is found not guilty, maybe the rest will be over looked. We need a black leader to emerge that is incorruptable and does not owe anyone favours. Its our only chance.
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About Turn
15/07/2008 15:43
there is more tho the arms deal than meets the eye. Who signed off on it? Who was head of state when the decisions were made? Me thinks that Mr. Mbeki did not like having a popular 2IC and it was time to get rid of old JZ. Job done getting the Zulu vote and out with you! They are all as bent as a bunch of bananas and yellow to go with it. - johnnoh |
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Zuma
15/07/2008 15:49
Please drop the charges against Zuma and make him president !!! - The alternative - This Guede Fella Seems like a lunatic fringe person in the Mugabe mould with some of his ranting about Anti Revolutionary forces against the Judiciary. God save us if he becomes PRESIDENT !!! Zuma for President Viva Zuma Viva !!! - Joe |
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More men like Mandela
15/07/2008 15:54
Everything that Mandela stood for and still stands for has been forgotten by the new regime. Non-racism, integrity, respect for fellow humans OF ALL COLOURS...what is happening in this day and age? Where have all the good people gone (excluding the retired people like Mandela)??? - Jeni |
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@ Vic
15/07/2008 15:58
And you will remain poverty stricken because if your eyes have not gone open by now. The ANC does not give a shit about you or any of the "uneducated masses" that support this circus you refer to as your party. Why do you think the ANC keep the masses uneducated? So what if Zuma is president? I still think he is a monkey in a suit and I will never respect that moron. It's a disgrace being called African although don't support that uneducated baboon! GOD Africans are STUPID!! - Neil |
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stop censoring my inputs
15/07/2008 16:02
I find it strange that so many people are prepared to spend so much time writing about the ANC instead of promoting the alternatives to an ANC government. Forget the ANC internal skirmishes and instead tell the voters about your preferred parties and what they stand to gain if they vote for them next time. - Sgubu |
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shakes head...
15/07/2008 16:09
About Zuma and friends, it's sad but the world laughs about them. People with not just a minor criminal record for president ... they're supposed to represent the country in every sense! What does that say about the country? - Minni |
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Leaders are human beings too
15/07/2008 16:22
How many of us can say we have never done anything wrong? Very few I doubt, even the great Madiba will admit to making some huge judgment errors in his illustrious life.
Look at recent history; The Prufumo affair, Nixon with Watergate, The Clintons (White Water Scandal amongst others), Israeli leaders, Chirac?s ? 500000 bribe affair, Berlusconi?s links to the Mafia etc. etc. The list of corruption and immoral acts committed by leaders of the worlds great and small Nations is far longer than any of us imagine. How many unspeakable acts were committed by the Nats in their reign over this Nation?
The thing is people, we are all human, we make mistakes and deserve a chance to put things right. Zuma has the respect and love of the majority of the country. Let him stand up to the challenge and deliver. If he can?t hack it we?ll soon know. Let the past be the past, he may, just may, given the chance pull the Nation together again. I pray & hope he does. Nkosi sikelel' iAfrika
- Denis |
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@Vic
15/07/2008 16:32
JZ MAY be the president of the country comes next year, if he survives that long. See Brett Kebble. Same goes for Barack Obama - he MAY become pres of the USA IF he survives that long. The world's power is not in numbers; it is in money. - Tuffy |
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ZUMA
15/07/2008 16:58
I am tired of coconuts like you pitso, who do notuderstand how our judiciarysystems work, all pronouncements and predictions you are making can only be valid or taken seriously if JZ goes to court. If you were being investigated for 8 years what will go through your mind regardless of whther you are guilty or not?Unlike you Prof!+ I also agree that JZ could be guilty but I am waiting for the court of law to proof. Cant we wait and see before we play our stupid and illinformed intelligence Sir?s - TJ |
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Leaders are human beings too
15/07/2008 17:02
Zuma has a history of caring for the people, if he's elected a president so be it and let him be judged on that. We all know GW Bush stole the election in America so did uncle Bob. But Bush as wrong as he is with his foreign policies, he loves, care for America and its people. Maybe to much love to some to an axtend that he shielded them from prosecution. Same way as Zuma, what we need to see from him is democracy and upliftment of S Africans that we can vote him out if he can't rule. - DK |
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Zuma Guilty/not guilty
15/07/2008 19:23
Zuma was guilty by association of intimidaton during the rape trial where he was found not guilty on a technicality. Nothing he has done since has looked like anything except playing to the gallery of idiots. If he was being framed by TM on these other charges why did he not call TM's bluff years ago by going to court instead of blocking the courts all the way? He was found not guilty of rape so court worked for him. Taxes, well he was paying off his supporters, nothing left for tax. - GailC |
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Zuma Analyst
15/07/2008 21:05
One university has the title "Nelson Mandela Professor", and there are so many so called Political Analyst. Maybe it's time we bestow the title 'Zuma Analyst' to some writers and commentators. It's either you like him or you hate him. But it doesn't really matter. Please leave the man alone to sort out his legal woes and take his sit as State President, which he richly deserves. - Linds |
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@Linds
16/07/2008 08:05
"take his sit as State President, which he richly deserves"
WTF what's your disability? I wonder if your tune would still be the same if it was you that was apparantly raped by JZ? Please, go sit in corner... - Francois |
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