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Yes, the ANC might be divided
25/07/2008 08:31
But to say they could loose 2009 elections! Please, don't be delusional. - MaLeFaCtOr |
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Asai, I echo your sentiments, but please tell us...
25/07/2008 08:34
What party is alternative to ANC? Did you hear what B.Holamiza said on TV last night? I agree with him if you also read the article where an ANC delegate vivited a poor white settlement. They are all part of one party and history has tought us that all of them are in denial as to the problems facing SA. Also read the article of blacks also cinsiddering emmigration? Why? Is it not obvious? The intelligent will seek improved living conditions abroad, while the not-so intelligent will still vote ANC - Matrix |
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Wake up Zuma
25/07/2008 08:36
I am one of the people who actually regards Zuma's victory as a victory for human justice and fairness. I am however purtubed by the people who ensured Zuma's victory, especially in the provinces. I live in the Free State and there has been numerous cases taken to the courts agains the leadership. Contrary to the NEC's analysis, these cases were genuine. Comrades are denied membership to disable them from contesting elections. Branch General Meetings are fraudulently held.It is anarchy - Kingzile |
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Repat, repeat, repeat............
25/07/2008 08:38
Unfortunately that is what happens in any political party that consists of power hungry and corrupt people. Wake up,the ANC has stopped being a part y for the people. And please, stop repeating yourself over and over and over. it's anoying.... - MM@ |
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What about a united RSA party, that is not just for...
25/07/2008 08:39
single race, but rather truly reflects the new SA. A party that recognises the crime situation, that BEE(etc) are racist based & abolishes it, etc.etc. I am convinced that if this is done, a number of entrepaneurs will step forward, new investments will follow, and we will all be part of one big happy nation. Will then seriously considder not emmigrating. But alas, this will not happen before we are scheduled to leave. Infighting in ANC will lead to the same as in Zim situation. - Matrix |
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well said saki,
25/07/2008 08:41
i just want to add that the infighting is due to people eyeing the spoils of this country to put themselves in positions of power to enrich themselves and that it is not only hurting the ANC but our country as a whole. - jerry |
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Bwahaha!
25/07/2008 08:43
I find this article and other current news extremely funny. Premiers get axed, campaigns towards poor whites (whose been around before penguins moved to Cape Town), Pres. Mbeki pulls out of the Scorpion orgy and all this makes me wonder whether I should go buy milk or rather just stick with dry bread? I guess I should investigate on which side of the fence the cows are grazing, maybe Rasool will establish a new party now for us to vote for? - ElectroMan |
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zuma is wide awake
25/07/2008 08:43
Sasi I think you got it wrong JZ is wide awake while rubbing his dirty hands(corruption,rape ect..)and cannot wait to become the president,I have asked this question before is there not anyone else in the ANC for president,it seems JZ is the only one. - NAZ |
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Times they are a changing
25/07/2008 08:43
Sasi, As much as I'd like to see the ANC become the party that looks after it's followers, I don;t see that happening. Sorry Buddy. Read my post on Mynews.
http://blogs.24.com/ViewComments.aspx?mid=10311121-a637-4823-bfcf-94519367e24d&blogid=95e77449-2135-46aa-bf23-71c565465fa1 - Johann |
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Oh! Poor Sasi
25/07/2008 08:44
When you say we, what are you refering to exactly? I guess you are only refering to so called ANC supporters who take everything that they read in newspapers as gospel truth. For instance, the sacking of the 2 Premiers - if you believe (because the media says so) this has to do with the fact that they belong to the Mbeki Camp - Why the following strong Mbeki loyalists not sacked:
1) Sbu Ndebele - KZN
2) Mbazima Shilowa - Gauteng
3) Sello Moloto - Limpopo
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wake what?
25/07/2008 08:45
It's okay of Zuma to sleep, he's after all a populist leader not a true one.I like him because he's surrounded himself with the like of Matthew Phosa(reminder:Mpumalanga province was riddled with corruption during his reign), KZN-ANC leadership(most of them involved on the violence during the 90's), etc.I could go on, but the evidence is obvious he's not a quality leader, but a someone controlled you can controlled by some remote( ask Tokyo how he influence the NEC-his has money).So wake up what! - Thabo |
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Ha ha ha
25/07/2008 08:50
The cracks in the mighty ANC are getting bigger and bigger! I love it! Roll on! The time for a strong black opposition party is now! Holomisa, Buthelezi, step up to the plate! - Jakes |
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You obviously don't know the ANC
25/07/2008 08:50
As a liberation organisation, the ANC cold not afford to be divided. back then, everyone had a common purpose: bringing an end to Apartheid. now that thats over, people have diff. goals: personal wealth etc. And as for the divisions, think back to when Hani and Mbeki were battling it out for the Deputy Presidency - VG |
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Dry!!
25/07/2008 08:50
This article is flat and dry, no real engaging arguments but all you say about Zuma and ANC is true... - KLZ |
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Gone are the days of old...
25/07/2008 08:53
...When we had shining examples of exemplary leadership, The Sisulu's, Mandela's...etc! Those were the real leaders! What is left now is a farce! And far worse than just destroying the ANC its slowly destroying the country too! I don't care for political parties...they are all a bunch of hypocrits and liars! The real leaders lead by example, selflessness and humility!! Viva mandela, you are truely an incredible man! If you were still in politics i would vote for you and the ANC! - dave the brave! |
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Oh! Poor Sasi Part 2
25/07/2008 08:59
Why is the Eastern Cape premier being replaced by another loyal Mbeki backer: Economic Affair MEC Mbulelo Sogoni? I agree with you on Malema - This boy needs to go to school to be thought to think before talking. Now, if you support the ANC (& not Zuma, Mbeki etc) like i do, you can write straight to the ANC with all your genuine concerns. Now, all true supporters of this Great Movement, join me in making sure that we +vely re-build the ANC. - The Village Pope |
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RASOOL
25/07/2008 08:59
Removing Rasool as head of the ANC in the WCape and as premier was a wrong move and I believe as a result of this the ANC will most defiantly lose ground to the DA and thus might ensure that the DA will be in control of the WCape after the next elections ? the colourd vote is very important in the WCape and I believe Rasool have done a lot to gain the trust of the colourd vote for the ANC since the last elections and now that he is gone it is paries like the DA and the ID which will benefit. - colin |
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Leadership
25/07/2008 08:59
That goes to show what leader we are going to have if/when elected the President of the republic. He can't even call to order his comrades. Come 2009 i am going to vote and this time i will use my head not my emotions. Next years elections are of grave concern as our future will be decided. I hope he can redeem himself now before elections, how stupid of ANC TO sack Premiers just before elections, they could have atleast waited for 8 months to do that, they are losing it. As for ANCYL, The less said about them, the better. And they go on the say that removing premiers was a political move, yeah right! Don?t get me wrong, we all want our leader to be held accountable and be sacked if needs be, but the timing of these events is very wrong.8 months!! Is it too much to ask. The new NEC is a disappointment - Bokamoso |
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Infighting
25/07/2008 09:01
Assuming the ANC is the people's party, then its real opposition must come from within and, to some extent, from the forces of society, global relations, economics, etc. Accordingly, internal tensions may well be healthy: a process by which the ANC as a whole retains power, yet becomes accountable to its internal tensions - because like it or not those tensions are there to stay.What may transpire is a healthy, albeit ambiguous variation of democracy. - Pete |
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The ANC
25/07/2008 09:03
The only way the ANC can be united is that the leadership stop thinking of the movement as a liberation movement, but as a political party. Too many people on the leadership still have the liberation mentality - they want to FIGHT and KILL. That mentality in its self is not wrong, but we need to move away from that and WORK for the benefit of the WHOLE country not just a section of it. - Tebogo |
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anc politics
25/07/2008 09:04
divisions in the anc hav always existed, it's a democratic party n differing opinions come with the package. the only difference is the recklessness at which ths is being handled, Zuma's dependance on the youth n the aliance is not helping matters either. i don c unity taking place any tym soon n especially with the Zuma camp trying 2 prove Mbeki is jus as guilty. - yungsta |
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ANC fought for freedom
25/07/2008 09:06
The only reason the ANC fought so desperately to end apartheid was for WEALTH and POWER. Do you really think the ANC risked their lives to free black people. You're foolish if you believe any political party cares for the their people. Politics is all about wealth and power. I will vote for any opposition party because a "one party state" is very dangerous. - debbie |
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Movement is going down the drain
25/07/2008 09:07
I fully support your article, anyway, what leadership qualities were we expecting from a std 5 person? I think Zuma and his NEC (Not Educated Comrades) are not aware that they destroying our movement in their quest for greed. - Concerned Qabane |
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VOTE
25/07/2008 09:16
It is crazy that people are just not going to vote next election. All that it takes for Evil to win is for good men and women to sit back and do NOTHING.... Go vote for another Party if your upset with the ANC. If 40% of the people and unhappy with the ANC but they just abstain from voting then lo and behold the ANC will win again. and then ZIM here we come.
VOTE Smart. - Bryan |
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I will vote ANC
25/07/2008 09:18
It's a mistake for u to think ANC will always enjoy smooth-sailing. All political parties in the world go through this. We just witnessed the most distructive contest between Obama and Clinton. Sasi if you don't know this you are stupid and should not engage politics! - Freedom |
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Sasi-What are you talking about ?
25/07/2008 09:22
Sasi, you disappointed me, The ANC is divided, however Jacob Zuma, Gwede Mantashe etc. always call for unity of the party, so I do not understand when you say JZ should wake up. It means that he acknowledged that there is a division hence he call for unity now and then. So with that you article is useless and pointless. You must also remember that division is everywhere so me as an ordinary person I will continuously vote for ANC. - Maanda |
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Divided parties = Divided communities
25/07/2008 09:27
The leaders in SA will have to come to serious terms in acknowledging that it will take steps from their sides to break down the divisions among communities. ANC will surely loose the Western Cape due to the Rasool move and the IFP and other parties will stand up on higher ground to be counted come next elections. What remains a major problem is that each one of those leaders have to overcome divisions in communities. I believe the NATURAL social development strategist will have the uperhand. - ElectroMan |
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We agree
25/07/2008 09:28
I am glad to see we agree this time,people can change if they really want too,Malema on the other hand recently said he will still back JZ even if he goes to jail. - Bokamoso |
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@ MM@. I agree...
25/07/2008 09:32
What Sasi said in a letter should have been said in a sentence; poorly written article. People with so little skill at conveying a message (I suppose that was the idea of the article?) shouldn't be allowed to vote. It is such a joke that voting rights are bestowed on those over a certain age and being in a certain place at a certain time... - Tuffy |
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Is it too late
25/07/2008 09:33
At this stage I don't think that there is any order in the ANC organization. The Sub bodies of the ANC are doing their own thing and are not aligned to what the ANC is trying to implement.
We as ordinary people are expected to vote for a seemingly order less organization. It's killing me to see such disorganization. What happened to the quality leaders?
The problem lies with the fact that foresight was the one thing that the ANC did not and still have not had. This is a big disappointment.
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Truth be told
25/07/2008 09:34
The ANC (given that they are so hungry for power) that for them to split into two will be best. Competition is always good and will boost the performance among their comarades. Each of the sides will also draw people from other parties and then a natural boost in wanting to perform will emerge. If they do not split, other parties will anyway take their supporters (by chucks) in the next few years to come. - ElectroMan |
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Wake up Zuma!
25/07/2008 09:43
well who do you vote for?
the ANC and its alliance were good for the struggle but now the ideaologies drive the great bed fellows aparte. Within this alliance there are all the personal battles going on.
The DA, good at criticising and talk but short on real stand up leadership or putting good ideas on the table.
The IFP, Bantu, ACDC etc are even worse than the latter.
Patricia now there is a leader, but I'd never vote for the lady as I'd lose everything I worked for.
what's left????? - gentlemanjim |
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Wake up Zuma (Sasi)
25/07/2008 09:45
You use"us ordinary South Africans" four or five times in your rambling. I and countless ordinary South Africans are to happy with the siuation and hope they "eliminte" each other in order for a non corrupt party to rule our country - Hennie Marsburg |
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vote ANC
25/07/2008 09:48
Good article Sasi but we will always vote ANC just to avoid the white man to take our South Africa back... - kabelo |
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Wake up Zuma, .....
25/07/2008 09:51
Zuma should stop delaying and obstructing the legal process and drive his case in court with the least delay to prove his innocence to the waiting nation so the country can return to, relative, normality in everyone?s interest - or could it be that he dare not because it will not be in his interest? As far as I am concerned I am quite willing to let him have his term in office despite my (racist?) reservations as my only condition for a leader is competency and integrity to do the right thing. - CePe |
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Re: The Village Pope
25/07/2008 09:51
If they remove Sello moloto, S?bu Ndebele and Shilowa now, which will be very detrimental, move for the organisation but case that you have not notice the people your are referring to was ousted from the positions of ANC Chairperson of the province and were replaced by Zuma loyalist, The anc cannot afford to loose Gauteng as well as KZN.Come 2009 all those people you mentioned will be job hunting, and who says that Mbulelo Sogoni is a Mbeki loyalist,your reading politics all wrong my friend,politicians change more than chameleons - Bokamoso |
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JZ is intune and insinc with the electorate...dont know where you get it wrong dude
25/07/2008 09:51
Your commentary is good, though it lack the depth in analysis required. In politics, you reward loyalty and punish dissent...what is in it for JZ if he keeps people who are working against his ideas and principles...his downfall will be quick. So, the solution in politics is either to sack, re-deploy or retire the dissenting voices so that those who are willing to work with the new leader do so whole heartedly, there is no room for back-stabbers. I think JZ might turn out to be a better leader - Spider Spike |
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Wake up Zuma!
25/07/2008 09:54
It is well evident that South Africans; never understand the importance of service delivery and its prominence it is; Comrades like Rasool that where not able to execute their mandates, the decision to ex them was not a sole decision. We are in state where our fellow South Africans questions the government that actually makes this country the economic powerhouse of Africa; Let Zuma Get his House in Order!!
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democracy 101
25/07/2008 09:56
Government of the people by the people. The role of government is to protect the country, not the state or the party. The people. To act in the best interests of all citizens. The ANC only acts to benefit the upper echelons of itself. - Jim |
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One way ... down!
25/07/2008 10:00
I am an out and out ANC supporter. I have never considered to vote for any other party as i remember what pains we had to go through in the Apartheid regime ... and most of us in this country have suffered dearly because of that. However, ever since Julius Malema uttered his first word in public ... He has convinced me to consider alternatives! The ANC must pull up their socks and must know that they will lose voters and support should they condone such behavior from the people they put in power - Festa |
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Poor Concerned Qabane!
25/07/2008 10:01
What do you understand by education? For the first time in this forum I read the most stupid comment! The very same person that you are saying he is not educated was your deputy president as from 1999 to 2005. And he was also appointed as the MEC of Economic Affairs and Tourism for the KZN provincial government in 1994, and also a premier of KZN, and again in October 1998 he was honoured with the Nelson Mandela Award for Outstanding Leadership in Washington DC and US. Why do you have to bring education? Pls next time you must reserve your comment. - Maanda |
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Unity
25/07/2008 10:02
Its naive to think that ANC tensions will rob it of power. Roots run too deep for that to happen. Oppositionism is growing due to disenchantment within the ANC and a maturing democratic state, but factionalism will also impose internal adjustments. Zuma needs unity to secure election so will have to compromise his leftist loyaties, which should bring the party closer to the political demography of the country - so be thankful for the tensions, because they could keep SA from going over the edge. - paula |
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What's wrong with losing a few votes?
25/07/2008 10:02
Surely it's not the point of a democratic system to work with 1 party perpetually having an unassailable majority? Then we could just as well not have democracy. Firstly, it is natural for any government to continuously lose votes until defeated. Then the same will happen to the next. Secondly, the inability of South Africans to understand that this is how democracy works, not voting by race ad infinitum, is shocking. Theoretically democracy is subject to an electorate who understands democracy. - Pieter Joubert |
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One way ... down!
25/07/2008 10:02
... And I am a young successful black male. I know for sure I am not the only one who is feeling this way. I had begun to accept Zuma as the leader amidst all the controversy ... but Malema ... he is going to chase more supporters than he brings in!!! And to think that he has a desire to be our leader in the future! - Festa |
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I will vote for Zuma
25/07/2008 10:11
I will vote for Zuma for one genuine reason: THere is no other party that can take over and lead this country. I admit that the ANC is fumbling time and again, but problem is there's no other party that can take over. Dont blame me, blame SA's lack of opposition. I was discussing this with my wife last nite, when we sat around the woodfire in our rural village. - Sello |
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ANC RULE
25/07/2008 10:14
Threatening the ruling party in a one party state is a waste of energy. Look after yourself and join the ANC, make a positive contribution and try to mould the party in to what you think it should be from the inside. Heard of water off a ducks back? that is what the ANC think of criticism and threats to the ANC.FACT . Complaining will never achieve anything-FACT - petrolhead |
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Kabelo
25/07/2008 10:19
"Vote ANC just to avoid the white man to take our
South Africa back" How stupid can one be ? This country belongs to all of us irrespective of colour. I don't care about the race or colour of a ruling party. All I would like to see is a rightious and honest leadership in place, a party that will rule over and care for ALL of us.
Surely that would be the criteria ? Please consider what you write before posting. It is called wisdom ! - Annie |
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crazy
25/07/2008 10:19
It is crazy.... Kabelo you are so wrong, what is it about the White Man taking over YOUR South Africa, is this not a New South Africa, I am white but I was Born here and I am as much South African as you. Who the hang are you to say that this is Your (black) South Africa.
Apartheid will always be remembered, you know why. People wont let go and move on, on Youth Day celebrations must go on and we must indoctrinate our children to hate and to REMEMBER.. MOVE on.
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leave zuma alone
25/07/2008 10:20
the media is white owned and the views are skewed in a direction in an anti-anything that is black.all of them suddenly speak against apartheid like none of them were here when it happened.zuma represents the political party that freed us and they are all over him.all black people will never forget about apartheid,the poverty is a constant reminder.all these white views against zuma,b.e.e are angering. - motho wa batho |
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@ Kabelo
25/07/2008 10:20
You see Kabelo, that is exactly the problem. People like you will continue to vote for incompetent idiots simply because of the colour of their skin! Don't you want an efficient and effective government??? Us whites do not care about the colour of the person leading this nation, but we DO care about their abilities, skills, knowledge, compassion, competence, leadership, and it will really help if they are not prone to corruption, fraud, bribery and nepotism! - cedb00 |
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No Ethics (5FM)
25/07/2008 10:22
I don't know is some of you where listening to 5FM this moring where Gareth Cliff was speaking to Graham (expert on Ethics). If you did listen to the show you really come to realize that the current ANC Zuma & Julius Camp have zero Ethics. They stand for greed and power, as a leader of people your Ethics must be of the highest standard and I am sorry but I dont belive these people even understand the word Ethics neither mind trying to practice it! Vote DA, not the best but woth a try! - wb |
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One party states will always
25/07/2008 10:22
be riddled with corruption and power hungry leaders. Although Mandela definately wasn't and I wish leaders would take a page out of his book. Vote for the man/women. The leader will always bend party objectives to suite his/her needs. Hence the reason why I say choose a leader with moral fibre and just character. Alas since Mandela none has come forward. The funnies today are worse than before. - Realist |
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@KABELO
25/07/2008 10:23
I am a black man and I am ashamed of you. That narrow mindedness...... I will vote the party thats the best for my country -- am looking at the DA at the moment. Lot of good things happening there.. Racist Kabelo shame on you - Mr T |
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Very stupid comments
25/07/2008 10:24
Little knowledge is indeed suicidal, the writer of the article lacks political understanding. In politics, everywhere in the world, loyalty is rewarded. When ever a new leader comes in, there will always be reshuffles because every person in leadership positions, be it in politics or business, would want to surround him/her self with people who share his vision for the future. If Zuma goes, the next leader will reshuffle, this is the nature of politics and business if you have not noticed. - Azania |
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@NAZ
25/07/2008 10:25
There leaders with potential in the ANC. We have Trevor Manuel as one example.But because he belongs to the so called Mbeki Camp they just ignore him.I cannot wait to pop the cork when Zuma is found guilty. In the court of public opinion he is and will be in the Court of Law.Any he will lead ANC from jail not RSA never and never again. - LSG |
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I wansn't going to respond to your racist comment but ...
25/07/2008 10:25
Remember comrade, it's all "our South Africa". Black, White, Coloured, Indian, Asian. All SA Citizens living in South Africa are what make our country what it is. Not one race or cultural group defines this country. WE ALL DO !!! - @kabelo |
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Very stupid comments
25/07/2008 10:25
Little knowledge is indeed suicidal, the writer of the article lacks political understanding. In politics, everywhere in the world, loyalty is rewarded. When ever a new leader comes in, there will always be reshuffles because every person in leadership positions, be it in politics or business, would want to surround him/her self with people who share his vision for the future. If Zuma goes, the next leader will reshuffle, this is the nature of politics and business if you have not noticed. - Azania |
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Unity
25/07/2008 10:27
Its naive to think that ANC tensions will rob it of power. Roots run too deep for that to happen. Oppositionism is growing due to disenchantment within the ANC and a maturing democratic state, but factionalism will also impose internal adjustments. Zuma needs unity to secure election so will have to compromise his leftist loyaties, which should bring the party closer to the political demography of the country - so be thankful for the tensions, because they could keep SA from going over the edge. - paula |
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A word or reassurance to the black people on this forum.
25/07/2008 10:28
I'm not sure if it will help banish your fears of apartheid returning, but it seems that many ANC supporters, only support that party for fear of any other race returning and bringing back apartheid. I do not and never will support the ANC, but I will also never support a party that wants to exclude any race from this beautiful country. We want everyone to be equal, and to be given every opportunity to achieve what they are worth. I want Madiba's dream, and I don't believe the ANC does. - Karen |
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Kabelo my south african brother
25/07/2008 10:31
this south africa is our country "our" meaning it belongs to the black and white never forget that my brother...hahahahahaha - terence |
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Adjustment
25/07/2008 10:32
Perhaps non-ANC people have to learn to adapt to an indigenous form of democracy, where one party can dominate without a loss of democratic tension. It seems to me that if you can't make it go away, then at least make it work for you - but where possible lend support to internal and external opposition processes to keep the ruling party in check and accountable. - Timm |
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Sello
25/07/2008 10:33
Please tell us what else you and your wife discussed around the woodfire last night; every time you discuss something there is a column about it the next day!!!! Won't you and your wife please talk about something else and not Zuma, ANC, Zimbabwe, etc? - Confucious |
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Kabelo
25/07/2008 10:40
Sjoe thats a very clever way of looking at South Africa. Hell I dont care if we have a purple government as long as they deliver on my tax rand. You on the other hand sees everything in race terms. This means if you were white you would have voted AWB or HNP. Sad sad individual. - brendon shields |
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ItTook the ANC
25/07/2008 10:40
Just 14 years to stuff up what their hero's struggled for a lifetime ,, Damn - charlie |
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Wake up ANC Supporters
25/07/2008 10:42
Why worry to try and Wake Up Zuma, why dont all of you ANC / Zums supporters wake up yourselves. Zuma is old - you cant teach a old dag new tricks! - wb |
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Wake up SA
25/07/2008 10:43
Just break away from voting ANC. This country has suffered enough. I agree with MATRIX for starting a new party for SA. Question is when? - Anon |
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These endless calls for unity are counter-revolutionary
25/07/2008 10:48
The real revolution was to replace a one-party state with a democracy, wasn't it? The ANC, which is more Movement than Party, should get about 25 years to try implement a new system. For democracy to occur, a political counterweight must eventually arise. There must be competition for the vote, otherwise it's not a democracy. Only the ANC itself can produce that counterweight. If factions don't form, we should begin to worry that our democracy will never develop and that the revolution's a flop! - Pieter Joubert |
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ANC
25/07/2008 10:51
The ANC will rule for sometime because of the inability of the oppostion coming up with a policy. They keep telling us that they won't do want the ANC is doing. So their policy is "if it's done by the ANC it is wrong" instead of putting their policy on the table for us to decide. Why should I vote for a REVOLUTION movement, but then why should I vote for a RE-ACTIONARY party. Please give us something to work with. Already planning a drinking session on election day. - Tebogo |
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Stay asleep Zuma!!
25/07/2008 10:53
Bla Bla Bla fishpaste.....everybody having their 2cents worth! Zuma is asleep and will stay asleep, same as a the other so called leaders in this country! After Mandela, there is no other in the foreseeable future. As long as we all take showers after sex, go to sleep early for brains and eat our beet roots...we can do it!! - NoBrainMajority |
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Julius Malema for the DA
25/07/2008 10:59
Serious, with idiots like him from the ANCjuvenile delinquent league he will force many people away from the ANC. I always voted for ANC but next time I will vote for the DA. - Phillip |
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@Kabelo
25/07/2008 11:03
Kabelo, I pity you. Really, what is the difference between being the slave of a white man or the slave of a black man? You are still a slave. Vote for a party that will deliver for all the people. If they don't, vote them out. Hold politicains accountable for their actions. When they see they are out of government maybe they will try harder for the electorate. - Jim |
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@Kabelo
25/07/2008 11:06
Eish brother...can u count?...whites will never ever be able to take "your" country back...and is it not after all now "our" country...It is mentality like yours that makes me wonder about the future of "our" country... - Pixie |
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Zuma is awake
25/07/2008 11:09
Unfortunately Zuma is awake & hes as good as he will ever get. The same goes for the entire ANC. There is only one answer & that is to vote a new government in. No other party could fail the people so dismally. - Malcolm X |
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Sello
25/07/2008 11:12
So, Sello you cannot see that the ANC is destroying the country step by step. To me it looks like they care less about you and you wife around your rural village's woodfire. Ian Smith in the time of Rhodesia took better care of the people than Mugabe today, but still nobody will say put another leader like Ian Smith back in Zim. The ANC will destroy this country, but because they lead the country to "freedom" their leadership may not be questioned. - Dvann |
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Correction
25/07/2008 11:14
It's not hurting all South African's, it's hurting idiots still thick enough to vote for the ANC! - Neil |
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The ANC will win and the average citizen loses again
25/07/2008 11:15
I dont for one minute doubt that the ANC will win the next election, based purely on sentiment of the supporters. Although it likely to be by a smaller margine. What is really sad, is that the same average voter will then join a protest to denounce the government and its poor service delivery, clearly having no idea that the impact of voting a non delivery party to power, is exactly that. He out loses, again. - AC |
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@ Sello
25/07/2008 11:16
Time and again you say? Since these fools came into power look where SA is now! Look at the CORRUPT government! SELEBI and ZUMA! No wonder they refer to the supporters as the uneducated masses! There are no pills for stupidity you know! - Neil |
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politics
25/07/2008 11:18
J Malema our nemesis - JAJA |
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@ kabelo
25/07/2008 11:20
With your comment a man can see that you don?t even have a peanut for a brain! Shame, that?s actually an insult to the peanut! - Neil |
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@ Kabelo
25/07/2008 11:21
If it was not for us you would most probably still be counting your chickens in the bush! - Neil |
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Tebogo said it best
25/07/2008 11:21
Tebogo for president! The ANC is a liberation movement, not a political entity. They have no sound political knowledge (as the past 13 years have proven), they only know how to fight and liberate, which we as South Africans don't really need anymore. Maybe someone should tell them that the struggle is over? - Zee |
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@ Kabelo
25/07/2008 11:22
With your comment a man can see that you don?t even have a peanut for a brain! Shame, that?s actually an insult to the peanut! - Neil |
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ANC a shadow of its former self......
25/07/2008 11:24
We had ANC leaders of integrity that commanded respect from the rank and file. Now we have a leader that stand accused of fraud, tax evasion, questionable morals and making/singing irresponsible statements/songs. He is as a result surrounded with questionable figures that see an opportunity to flourish or exploit the situation to further their careers and defraud our countries moral standing as evidenced by the loutish behaviour at conferences and branch meetings. Vote with your mind in 2009. - clifton |
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Struggle my ASS!
25/07/2008 11:24
When is YOUR so called struggle going to end? Since the beginnig of time all of you have been in some sort of struggle! Ag shame! Tell Beares, they really care!!! - Neil |
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BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
25/07/2008 11:29
You all refer to JZ as a leader? Tell me, what does he pioneer except his wives and showers? - Neil |
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@colin
25/07/2008 11:38
What trust ,exactly ,did Rasool gain in coloured people?What exactly did he do for coloureds? Please refresh my memory,the Cape flats are swarming with drug lords,gangsters etc,he supported the arrest of Helen Zille when she marched against crime and drugs.The ANC thinks nothing of coloureds,just used as pawns to secure votes,wake up bra! - fatman |
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@ Pieter Joubert et al
25/07/2008 11:45
1.Why do you continue to believe that the ANC's supporters vote purely on the basis of race? If that were true, why does the IFP not have more support? 2.Why do (white) people continue to delude themselves that the ANC gets votes because most black people are uneducated? Uneducated does not equal stupid.People vote for the party they believe in.However I feel abt the ANC, DA/IFP simply dont appeal - VG |
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I will
25/07/2008 11:47
be voting DA for sure... ANC, I had faith for a better South Africa, but thanks to your "ethics" I have changed my mind 'ad infinitum'! Zuma is a WOLF in sheep's clothing, people with something better than a peanut would understand this :)
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@petrolhead
25/07/2008 12:04
I thought of doing that, to try and change the ANC from the inside but hey, chances of being stabbed and be shot by a fellow "comrade" is not appealing. Sello, I do agree with you, the weakness of the opposition, their stubborness to change their image and apeal to the majority is failing the country. The ID came close, but they made a blunder for me by sleeping with DA in Cape Town. That's like voting DA. There is still some time before making up mind but Azapo is the only option for me. - Z |
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Tired of BS
25/07/2008 12:08
Money is the cause of all the divisions within the anc and are all rooted in greed and corruption.Do not be fooled by promises,as most politicians only have one agenda and that is to make lots of money.The divisions which are being perpetuated between colours and affiliations are all just a screen to mask incompetency and greed.As long as people feel indebted to the leading party nothing will change,as they know whatever they do they will always receive the votes.Zuma is just more of the same. - frank |
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@ Sello
25/07/2008 12:27
It is because of your attitude that there is no viable opposition. The ANC will win the next election - no question. So, vote for another party, any party. If enough people do that, we will at least have enough of an opposition to pressure the ANC into cleaning up its act. - Wiseman |
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Crumbling ANC
25/07/2008 12:39
Under Madiba, the ANC had good, sincere intentions. Even if didn't perform, there was promise. We were a happy nation.
Under Mbeki, crime, corruption, etc reached new highs. The new leaders seem to be interested more in the money and power. They're not interested in serving the needs of the people. We are now a sad, disappointed nation.
"You can fool some people all the time. You can fool all the people some of the time. You will not fool all the people all the time"
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@Neil
25/07/2008 12:40
Its comments like this "If it was not for us you would most probably still be counting your chickens in the bush!" that will ensure that the ANC rules this country for a long time. Let me be a racist: I don't think that the ANC should be loosing sleep about the minority groups who claim to have voted for it in the last elections. What the ANC needs ( & they are fully aware) is to take the party back to |
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