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A reasonable man
29/08/2008 08:49
I agree with the sentiments expressed in the letter. Mr Ramaphosa apeals to a vast number of reasonable South Africans. The problem is that it seems that a bigger majority of us act in unreasonable or irrational ways. People are easily swayed by leaders (guess who?)who call on the emotional response for support and not sound thinking and reason. - Gerhard |
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True & not. Sanity should prevail.
29/08/2008 08:50
CyrilR stated that crime is a MONSTER. I agree, but calling all people to FIGHT crime (in principle good & agree), but by implication of becoming vigilanties may be off the mark. Our security forces (Police, military, scorpions, etc) hands should be strengthend. Legislation is adequate, but enforcement & legal system (courts) are not up to scratch. The populus (xenophobes) should NOT do the job of the security forces. We / You / Gov / ??? in denial? Yes, all are. - Matrix |
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He sounds like....
29/08/2008 08:50
A lot of us citizens sound, echoing the same thoughts, and clarifying the same problems we all experience daily. Pity no-one in power listens. Everybody else seems on the same page. - AJ |
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how the anc managed to overlook the most
29/08/2008 08:51
suitable candidate like Ramaphosa for presidency beats me, anyho they've lost my vote because as a daughter of SA I do not want to have a president who thinks "taking a shower" minimises a risk of being infected with aids, a man who has no control over his sexual desires, what message is he sending to the young of SA? SA is already drenched with aids the last thing we want is an uninformed person on the risk of being infected! - Vicky |
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Agree
29/08/2008 08:52
I agree we need leadership in this country. We have very little in goverment. They do not encourage, lead, inspire, speak out against wrongdoing or even try to unite the country. They do nothing to win trust and respect and do not aspire to excellence - TC |
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I agree
29/08/2008 08:57
Ramaphosa is so much better than Zuma. Why are we stuck with Zuma? Is Zuma our only option for leadership? - dhv |
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ALUTA CONTINUA
29/08/2008 08:57
In as much as I support Cyril Ramaphosa and his idea, I disagree to the notion that Crime has become a core struggle objective, in fact people like Cyril that live in posh houses have put crime as part of their priorities because they have assets to protect, Our struggle is against poverty and for this struggle objective I am willing to take my arms and defend my sentiments, the masses are stricken by hunger and therefore vulnerable to commit crime, unless we eliminate poverty then the so-called struggle against Crime will remain a rhetoric. unfortunately my struggle is not against crime but poverty! to poverty eradication I say ALUTA CONTINUA.. - Kolobe |
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Cyril Ramaphosa
29/08/2008 09:00
But why can't someone of Mr Ramaphosa's quality run for president? Why, when we have people of this calibre, should we settle for anything less? I just don't understand it. - Jannie |
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What about Bantu Holomisa?
29/08/2008 09:00
What do you think of Holomisa, Ndumiso? I rate him highly & without doubt he is one of the few alternatives that I'm assessing with the intention of voting for him come 2009.
As compared to the current crop of leaders within the ANC I think he is far much better. I haven't heard lousy stories of controversy & corruption about him & he seems to have good leadership credentials too! - 50%Single |
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Ndumiso
29/08/2008 09:01
I share your enthusiasm and I too hope that something positive rubs off on current ANC government, however I still feel that people in power like this or involved and have so many means to start somehting slways just talk instead of doing, all talk!! Just like Zuma, all talk no action! - wb |
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Bravo, Cyril!
29/08/2008 09:03
Cyril is good presidential material, and all reaonsable and patriotic South Africans wish him well: he is balanced, realistic and not prone to the hot-headed outbursts of the lesser ANC. In any case, Mbeki, the Pahad brothers, Selebi and the brotherhood have deeply vested interests in fostering the wave of crime, so don't expect anything form them. - Benzo Broodryk |
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It could work IF all groups are fairly represented in Gov.
29/08/2008 09:04
Look at when Cyril Ramaphosa Roelf Meyer worked together on the constitution. They made it work. Only when all Safricans share power & help / keep each other in check / etc... is there any hope. Next step would be to return to values & discipline. Then only can all of us start to rebuild this country on a fair demmocracy. While Safricans only vote based on colour, we will continue down this spiral of crime. - Matrix |
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True
29/08/2008 09:05
What we need indeed is someone that is respected like CR is respected by all races. This is the type of leadership SA needs. Someone that knows/understands business, see the problems with crime and is a great and respected leader. I will vote for the ANC if Cyril Ramaphosa is the presidential candidate. - BigBang |
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Bravo, Cyril!
29/08/2008 09:05
Cyril is good presidential material, and all reaonsable and patriotic South Africans wish him well: he is balanced, realistic and not prone to the hot-headed outbursts of the lesser ANC. In any case, Mbeki, the Pahad brothers, Selebi and the brotherhood have deeply vested interests in fostering the wave of crime, so don't expect anything form them. - Benzo Broodryk |
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Leadership in SA
29/08/2008 09:07
We have an awful example on our border of what can happen to a once-prosperous country with a bad leader at the helm. Here in SA we have a choice: put in men and women of stature, intelligence and integrity (of any colour) who will govern wisely for the benefit of all. Or put in corrupt politicians who will rape the country's wealth for their own benefit. Think Land Bank, Lotto and literally hundreds of other ANC-controlled bodies... - doug |
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Ramaphosa for president!
29/08/2008 09:09
Imagine how fantastic it would be if Cyril joined one of the existing opposition parties and ran for president! We would FINALLY have an opposition that the mindless masses can vote for, and start putting the rudderless and spineless ANC under some real pressure to perform or face the highway! - Richard |
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Leaders
29/08/2008 09:09
The country will stay in the boiling pot of anger dishonesty crime corruption and so forth, if lead by the current and on the horizon leaders. There is nobody that stands out who I can with honesty say, There He / She is. The gravy train is to long! - Krulkop |
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familiar
29/08/2008 09:11
he sounds like he had a running with obama on his last visit to the US - morena |
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@Kolobe
29/08/2008 09:12
I agree with you. Some 'leaders' admit crime is a problem, but seem to neglect to link it to poverty. Crime cannot be fought until something is done about the miserable living conditions of the masses - that is truly the root of the problems. - D |
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True that Matrix, but opposition seem to be unable
29/08/2008 09:12
to put their message across convincingly for ppl to support them, the anc is capitalising on this. I also read y'sterday how the land reform has been shelved by the anc, when they know (like Mugabe) they have no more rhetoric to push, they will use that as their tramp card, its amazing how African politics are all the same designed for self destruction of potentially rich continent, only if we have leaders with commonsense Africa will have no need! - Vicky |
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Agreed: Come on Cyril!
29/08/2008 09:14
Yes, I would agree with Benzo that Cyril has the makings of a responsible President. The first qualification is the ability to RECOGNIZE problems (and not deny or sweep them under the carpet). Mbeki 'solves' national problems like the current crime epidemic by DENYING them. We need someone who does not bury his head in the sand or wash away problems with a bottle of fine imported brandy like the current 'president' (what a misnomer!). Good luck, Cyril, you have my full support! - Heino Bester |
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A Man With Integrity
29/08/2008 09:15
The ANC managed to overlook Mr Ramaphoso because he was not going to be manipulated by anybody. It is about time that people like him and Roelf Meyer people with influence should come together to bring a solution to our crime infested country to give us an opportunity to leave a peaceful life in our beloved South Africa. Go for it Sirs we totaly agree with you. - MM |
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Nice
29/08/2008 09:17
Nice one! I completely agree! My mind would be at ease if JZ, Vavi, Malema stopped making a big noise with no action and we took guidance from Cyril or somebody like him! I would vote for cyril!! - dave the brave |
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Kolobe
29/08/2008 09:17
Dear sir, i can only agree with you today. The masses are truly stricken by hunger yet our government has already spent R9.7million on defending Jacob Zuma and not feeding the impoverished. Now there's some food for thought! - John Camp |
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I agree - Peace & security in our country!
29/08/2008 09:18
South Africa's people needs a leader who cares for the country AND it's people - both black & white, then the country WILL prosper. The current leadership seems to brush aside crime stats & public concerns about crime-they are just concern about themselves i.e. the chief of Police is corrupt! Our country is at war with itself! Every day, 54 people are murdered in SA... White farmers are being slaughtered, I deem this as Xenephopic attacks on white property owners not crime! PEACE&SECURITY please - deon |
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It sounds good
29/08/2008 09:19
to mobilise the people of the country to fight crime. Its just that crime generate millions of rand as income for the government through insurance and medical policies. Everything stolen must be replaced and this generates VAT and income tax as well as work. The same with medical and other policies. Why kill the goose that lays the golden egg? The security forces are not propery trained/motivated to stop this crime war and the government turns a blind eye. The people suffers. - LDS |
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@D!
29/08/2008 09:19
Come on, D! AIDS was also said to be due to proverty! The AND's 'redistribution' campaings would have worked better if corrupt officials like Mbeki, Selebi and the Pahad brothers had not embezzled these monies to fund their own lavish lifestyles. The REAL problem is a corrupt and kleptocratic govt. that fosters the poverty it is supposed to alleviate by embezzling earmarked funds to go on irresponsible shopping sprees to Europe! - Benzo Broodryk |
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Cyril for President
29/08/2008 09:21
Pity... having spoken to black and white people, Cyril is the major favourite among all, only problem is, these opinions are of educated people, NOT in the majority. So the un-educated people get the vote at the end of the day and yes, guess who! - Booboo |
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Kolobe AGAIN!
29/08/2008 09:21
Kolobe, you never fail to astound me with your absolute lack of reality. Yes, we all consider poverty eradication to be a real priority. But simply stealing a piece of bread or a TV to satisfy this hunger, would be understandable, if it was ONLY driven by poverty. Why do the thugs (animals, idiots), have to torture, rape and murder, because they are HUNGRY!! Give me a break you idiot!! - GT |
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@ Kolobe part 2
29/08/2008 09:22
Since when did raping women and children become classified as a crime associated with hunger and poverty? Since when did ANY violent crime become associated with hunger and poverty? - John Camp |
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Lack of Leadership
29/08/2008 09:22
You make some very valid points...
I think the main reason why we are not seeing any real leadership from the current governement is because they have many personal issues hanging over there heads, arms deals, corruption etc etc. If these issues are for legitimate reasons or not, it still means that there focus is not where it should be, which is Leading the Country. - Mickey |
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Dear Kolobe ask yourself this
29/08/2008 09:24
Why does a country such as Ethiopia who are far more impoverished than SA but yet the most peacefull place on Earth with locals who are not murdering each other and using the excuse of impoverishment as an excuse for robbery murder rape and corruption......It does not happen there yet they have less than us.....Go read history on the Ndungane tribes chased down from middle Africa due to theft stock theft murder rape etc etc.....indegenous locals are to blame - bob |
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Ndumiso for President!
29/08/2008 09:25
What a thoughtful, well-written piece. I think you should be our next President. - Cathy |
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@ D and Kolobe..
29/08/2008 09:26
..surely crime is linked to poverty, but why must it then be so violent? Why torture and murder people and gang rape women, rather than just take what you want and leave? Just for the record: if Ramaphosa stands for president, this white Afrikaans meisie will vote ANC. (Ndumiso Khoza for vice president?) And then I will pray that power doesn't corrupt them like the rest... - HT |
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Beats me
29/08/2008 09:26
why the ANC have someone like Ramaphosa, who has exceptional leadership skills and that one thing that so many of the current crop don't - COMMON SENSE ..instead they give us bloody Zuma great! Just shows in SA it does not pay to be honest. Ramaphosa should seriously think about setting up a new party with Helen ..I'm sure they would work well together ..maybe they should have a chat..since its quite clear the ANC will never appreciate what they have in him.. - Mikey |
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Crux! ! !
29/08/2008 09:27
Why now lately all those crux whom were in a hiding place or hybernating are coming back,to me it gives me an impression that SA is coming to be a bussiness country relying on dangerous donations from china which in future is gonna cause us lots of problem and looking at chinese labourers working under bad conditions. - Silo's |
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@Kolobe
29/08/2008 09:28
As much as i agree that poverty should be eradicated,but i don't completely agree that crime is caused by poverty.Can poverty make you rape?Can poverty make you kill people in their homes?Can poverty make you kill for a cellphone?I think not.... - Thusla |
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saviour
29/08/2008 09:34
That's the whole problem, we think of politicians in terms of being saviours, and hence give them our unconditional support.The secret of a working democracy is to not put trust in a person,but vote for the best prospect at the time and hold him/her accountable, whoever he/she is,or whatever heroic deeds he/she had done in the past.But yes, I agree,South Africa's immediate prospects and image would have been a lot better if Ramaphosa was the most likely future president. As it stands, he is not. - kwk |
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Proof is in the eating
29/08/2008 09:34
A good speech writer and a skill in delivery is all that is needed to encourage people, but unfortunately this often ends up in the pages of newspapers and does not result in actions. We need to learn to be self reliant instead of waiting for every word from politicians or leaders as if we are beggars. Create your own positive world instead of letting others define it for you. I like Cyril, but he benefited from BEE so much that his words rather ring hollow. - Len van Heerden |
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Kolobe
29/08/2008 09:35
Agree about poverty eradication, but India has a population much bigger than ours and also terrible poverty but their crime rates are a lot lower. Still say a lack of moral values is root cause of crime. (All of us, not just certain races).Krugersdorp nut is a good example. - Sonny |
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Crime linked to poverty yes! but there is NO poverty
29/08/2008 09:35
bad enough for anyone to rape, as SA is the rape capital of the world even babies are not safe, instead of shying away from this we must confront perpetrators of this evil and eject them from our communities, I was impressed that the British persued relentlessly the paedophile "glitter" he had to sign a sex offenders register and MUST report his movements to the authorities, I say well done GB for doing all you can to protect your daughters/children from rapists/paedophiles!! - Vicky |
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RE: What about Holomisa?
29/08/2008 09:35
Holomisa is a useless leader. I lived in the old Transkei when he was president and his administration was an utter shambles. I recall a time when civil servants like nurses (my mother was one at the time) were not paid a salary for 4 months because Holomisa wanted to strengthen the Transkeian army! We need an alternative, but Holomisa is simply not that. - VLS |
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KOLOBE
29/08/2008 09:36
Poverty is a problem, yes...I have only 2 children, because that is the max. number of children I can afford to feed. Most poor people have more than 3 or 4...some even have 5,6,7 children to look after. So, because I have only 2 children, I can give my children and also myself a better quality of life, whereas people with 6 children will have to do with less quality. And stop making excuses for the criminals. Raping and killing people won't ease you or your child's hunger. - WSAW |
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Kolobe - do you have a plan?
29/08/2008 09:36
With the greatest of respect how do you propose that we eradicate poverty, the Government promised to do this unsuccessfully? But let me ask you this, if people are stealing through poverty why do they steal lives, electronic goods and jewellery, why dont they steal all the food, books and clothes if that?s what they actually need? Cyril and his like have risen above poverty and now that they have possessions they have a sense of pride in themselves and their posessions. Is that a bad thing? - Jacqui Bradley |
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Cyril
29/08/2008 09:37
I too would vote for Cyril. Just imaging a government composed of true leaders. I can understand that black folks say the ANC has done more for them than any NP government ever did(not hard to do), but it could be even so much better for everyone. We have to find a way to inform the lesser educated. I dont understand the JZ supporters at all, what has the man ever done to make him your only choice to lead SA? Other than bash whites, what policies or developments or anything was his doing? - ramone |
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@ Kolobe
29/08/2008 09:37
Okay then explain India?A population of a Billion people, grinding poverty, huge wealth disparities between classes ..sound famliar? Well how come they don't have the kind of evil violent crime we have? By saying that poverty causes crime you are insinuating that all poor people are criminals, sorry I don't buy that next you're going to say its because of apartheid, well then you are saying that no one needs to take responsibility for their actions because everything is because of apartheid????? - Mikey |
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@Kolobe
29/08/2008 09:38
Poverty might be blamed for petty crime, but not the crimes we are currently experiencing like rape, murder for nothing, corruption etc. Just seeing the way people drive on our roads, shows a total lack of respect for the law. South African society in general has a huge problem! - P |
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unfortunately, we missed the boat
29/08/2008 09:39
Ramaphose was Mandela's first choice to replace him, Mbeki was an afterthought. Ramaphose turned it down to concentrate on business. Imagine what a country SA could have been if he had been in control. The only way we will have a Ramaphose or Sexwale in control is if Zuma goes to jail. SA better start praying!! - johnson |
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ANC branch nominated cadidate for presidency
29/08/2008 09:39
Cyril is connected to the ANC and at the end of the day it depends if the 2500 ANC branches norminated him and selected him as president(chairman) of the ANC. Thereafter it depends if the voters will vote for this candidate. The ANC branches are elected by the street commitees and therefore by the residents of that street. They all assumes that the Jacob is the candidate elected by the voters, etc, etc. ...... Blah Blah. The voters wants Zuma..... I think - Hendrik |
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Why Ramaphosa will not be president
29/08/2008 09:39
It is so, Ramaphosa is probably one of the most gifted individuals to serve in politics in SA. However, he will not become president because of a very simple fact - he is a Sotho, and therefore not regarded as part of the Xhosa Nostra... - GotOut |
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Thusla
29/08/2008 09:40
Rape is only one of many crimes. It is not caused by poverty. Just because poverty does not cause rape does not mean that the vast majority of crime is not caused by poverty. Respect of the law is also a bi-product of poverty, If you are dirt poor and live in the streets your respect of the law is different to someone who has things to protect. - LvH |
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@Dhv and Crew
29/08/2008 09:40
Cyril is a member of the NWC of the ANC and part of the NEC (all decision making committees). He is very intelligent and so are many people within the ANC including Zuma. If Tokyo speaks strongly about HIV and AIDS can we say he must be president of the ANC? Surely you do not expect someone to be President or Minister of Safety and Security because they speak strongly against crime. The ANC is not a one man show and the fact that Cyril is an executive member of the ANC is enough to allow him to practice what he has been saying. - Jayzee |
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@Kolobe again
29/08/2008 09:40
is caused by a lack of discipline in all sphere's of SA life and an absolute lack of morals...not poverty! Stop calling poor people criminals... Of course people like Zuma lead example don't they! Monkey see monkey do.. - Mikey |
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To rephrase...
29/08/2008 09:41
Ok, poverty cannot 'make' a person rape, commit cold-blooded murder, etc...BUT, today's sick society, with no regard for human life, surely has its roots in poverty of some form: people who have nothing and thus nothing to lose will do what they see seems to work for others to at least gain something; destitute people without stable homes and thus without guidance and values instilled in them will be badly influenced and are not going to give a s**t - after all, who gave a s***t about them?! - D |
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Cyril should
29/08/2008 09:42
form his own party as previous readers have suggested.IT would be very interesting to see how much support the ANC will loose. Furthermore, Kolobe, yes poverty is a problem, so is corruption, crime etc etc. But to even suggest that poverty is the cause of the violent crime is ludicrous. - Mart |
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Mmmmm
29/08/2008 09:42
I've heard talk like these from alot of other "High Society" people, crime has been here always, now that the rich are more affected then itt's a problem, all talk and no action is what this country is all about, it's 14 yrs already and we are still struggling, the so called Leaders are losers - Undertaker |
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29/08/2008 09:43
Cyril will not be considered for president. Firstly he is not corruptable and secondly he has to much info on corrupt people in government. - know it |
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Harping on about this like Kolobe harps on about ANC
29/08/2008 09:43
Having answers. There will be no solution to the problems of poverty and crime until those in power connect the dots that overpopulation is the problem which leads to poverty and crime plus AIDS orphans and incentivises smaller families through the menfolk who are responsible for spreading their seed far and wide by right! 40 mill vs 6 mill whites, do the maths. - GailC |
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so, Kolobe...
29/08/2008 09:44
From your generous surrender of insight can we then draw assumption that rapists,hijackers,murderers men that gut children for meat etc. do so out of hunger?I feel so hungry today, let me go out and rape someone,that should really quell the hunger pains.You proved once again how pathetically stupid you are. - fatman |
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John Camp
29/08/2008 09:45
I always find your comments informative and well considered, but your latest contributions makes it seem that someone wrote on your behalf. The state is forced to pay for Jacob Zuma's defense. It is part and parcel of the fact that these charges stem from his work as a government employee. This has nothing to do with poverty alleviation or hungry people. These things are unrelated. I am no fan of Zuma, but really do we have to operate like ST instead of applying reason & logic to issues - Len van Heerden |
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Silo I have to disagree with you on China:-) like most
29/08/2008 09:45
countries they are not perfect, inasfar as their labour/workethic/culture, that is how they do things and that way is the reason they NOW are amongst the worlds best economies, we should take a leaf on them instead of criticising, China was given bad publicity by they west, cause of their fear and their inability to understand other's ways of doing things (communism), whilst the west is also not perfect given their illegal invasion of sovereign countries and the Gitmo's, - Vicky |
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Less crime = less poverty
29/08/2008 09:46
I've seen many fellow engineers leaving this country due to crime and I'm not far behind them. Same for all other skilled labour. We now have a serious skills void. We are loosing foreign investments due to the skill shortage AND the crime. And there goes work opportunities for the poor also... If you eradicate crime, poverty will soon be mitigated! - HT |
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Cyril and the Presidency
29/08/2008 09:46
A lot of you seem to think that intelligence, honesty, direction within a person make them qualified to be a president. Yes they are good qualities, but have NOTHING to do why why someone is 'elected', and that is not only a South African story. Then again, Tokyo threw his hat in with Zuma, and people said similar things about Tokyo. - AJ |
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Mikey
29/08/2008 09:47
Your knowledge of SA politics is amazingly limited. Ramaphosa has received a larger profile in the "new" ANC even being given a responsibility to chair some committees. His role in the ANC is by choice not because he is sidelined. Whether Ramaphosa would work with Zille is a pipe dream. Even other opposition parties are cool to working with Zille. - Len Anderson |
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@kolobe
29/08/2008 09:48
"the masses are stricken by hunger and therefore vulnerable to commit crime" I agree.. BUT surely the "masses" should stop breeding like rabits. I mean, Our house worker has three kids, DOES not know what "Inflation and Interest Rate" means. Now I ask you with tears in my eyes... Can you see the underlying problem here? - Francois |
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agree
29/08/2008 09:48
I blame Mbeki for the problems we are facing today, indirectly that is...he should ahve not run again fro ANC presidency, the likes of Tokyo(who has since become a zuma man0, and Cyril were supposed to have run, and should have run. But this is politics after all...I love this country,and Cyril seems to be the kind of man we need...I used to think so about Sexwale..btu not anymore..I could be mistaken with the going ons of politics..so feel free to correct me... - Dan |
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Fight against crime
29/08/2008 09:49
Ramaphosa's speach was one that sounded as if he was trying to reunite the people of SA. The likes of which have not been heard since Mandela. The current leaders are dividing this nation and crime benefits as a result. Mebeki, Zuma Step aside NOW. Let people who want to reunite the nation take over. Crime is a result of societies ills and should NOT be looked at in iscolation. - Dick Tracey |
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I have much respect for Ramaphosa
29/08/2008 09:49
but he choose money over the poor a long time ago. He will never be president under any circumstances. So let's stop with fantasies.
JZ will be the next president, accept it now and you'll sleep better. - tshepo |
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Zuma started this a few weeks ago, in Newlands,
29/08/2008 09:49
and now Cyril, just talked about it, and he is a hero. Very strange how people start doing things about crime and someone just lecture on us about it and they become heroes of a stolen moment.
Blame Mbeki, on why Cyril left politics.
Zuma has done something about crime, by opening street committees in borth of DBN and has encouraged people arround the country to open such committes.
We are busy starting a committe in my area, because of Zuma.
What has DA done is to criticise this move. - Philani |
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Kolobe
29/08/2008 09:49
Poverty is a problem in SA. MURDER, RAPE, TORTURE is NOT caused by poverty. There is no excuse for violent crime. If you are hungry would you really kill someone for bread. Take the food/money but there is NO excuse to kill. Only savages would kill for there own selfish reasons. - debbie |
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Kolobe
29/08/2008 09:49
Maybe the editors should stop posting the coments of the above mentioned.His comments is just to get reaction from other reader and then it is just a chain reaction and nobody comments on the real article any more.Please get him out
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Cyril for president
29/08/2008 09:51
It is a pity that a person of such caliber has been lost to business.Please Mr Ramaphosa return to politics AS THE NEXT PRESIDENT!!!!Then we will all realise how incompetent the present leadership is and the the untold opportunities, security,prosperity and optimism that has been sacrified by all of us. - PC |
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GotOut
29/08/2008 09:52
Oddly, Jacob Zuma is the president of the ANC and is not Xhosa. Really, do people like you read what they write, or simply content with passing information that you have no idea of? The present ANC leadership consists of umXhosa, umZulu, iShangane, moSotho, etc. So, try another one, the Xhosa nostra bit is rather tired. - L |
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Cyril for President
29/08/2008 09:52
Please do a survey to see how many S Africans would vote for Cyril if he stood for Prsident. - Dion |
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HT
29/08/2008 09:53
Have you seen some of the engineers return because they have realised that the grass is not always greener the other side. - L van Heerden |
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Involving everybody
29/08/2008 09:55
There are things that we can all do to aid combatting crime - without necessarily filling a role better filled by the police. Don't buy things off a street corner at a price that is too low to be legit. Don't buy DVDs or CDs of dubious origin. Don't accept discounts for strictly cash business with no receipts issued. Etc. - Big Bad Bob |
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@Richard
29/08/2008 09:55
They said it with Holomisa. Where is he? He barks like a Chihuahua. Cyril is resurfacing because the ANC nearly became a party no longer appealing to the need of the masses. ZUMA, Tokyo and Cyril are not keen at pleasing the opposition but will work hard to address the imbalance of the past. The ANC is a shared organisation unlike the DA. Crime is as a result of so many things and having a strong police force and justice system will not address the problem but will overcrowd our jails. Until we address poverty, inequality, housing and joblessness there will be no end to the escalating problem of crime. - Jayzee |
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Involving everybody
29/08/2008 09:55
There are things that we can all do to aid combatting crime - without necessarily filling a role better filled by the police. Don't buy things off a street corner at a price that is too low to be legit. Don't buy DVDs or CDs of dubious origin. Don't accept discounts for strictly cash business with no receipts issued. Etc. - Big Bad Bob |
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GailC if that were true, how is that countrieswhich have
29/08/2008 09:56
most population in the world are rich? USA, now China and India are emerging economic superpowers. Problemin Africa is corruption and obssession with self indulging leaders, and the penched ofthe voting mass to subject themselves to such leaders. Only the Divine Power can save Africa from self destructing, WE africans are our own worst enemies. - Vicky |
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Deeply Hurt
29/08/2008 09:56
I 4 1 I'd vote for the anc if it's Ramaphosa who's in power. I'm greatly disappointed at this leader though. He's been too quietly recently in a way that seems like he's not interested in this country any more. I know he's rich but can he please take out his head out of the and realise that there are more poeple who wants him to be our leader? is he so selfish?
CYRIL!!!!!!! We need a leader and that is you, for the love of this country!!!!!!!!!!!! - bobo |
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Johnson
29/08/2008 09:58
Wrong again. Mandela saw both Ramaphosa and Mbeki as potential candidates for the presidency. Ramaphosa's decision was taken only after Pres Mbeki was made Deputy hence summising that an ANC deputy often likely end up as President. They were not the only candidates. Odd that Ramaphosa has been coining it with BEE deal after another and often this benefits only a few. But he is not in government and hence is a hero. Then when in government, I am sure we will hear another story from the fickle. - L |
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@HT, Less Poverty = Less Crime
29/08/2008 10:00
this is how it works, you don't eradicate poverty and illiteracy, you WILL NEVER eradicate crime. Even if you unleash the army. - tshepo |
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LETS NOT VOTE FOR COLOUR
29/08/2008 10:01
PPL NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE DONT GET POWER FROM THE PPL WE GET IT FROM HEAVENLY FATHER IF THEY FAIL TO LEAD THIS COUNTRY POWER WILL BE TAKEN FROM THEM AND TO ADD ON THAT WE SHOULD UNITE AND START VOTING THE BEST POLITICAL PARTY NOT VOTE COLOUR LETS START PRAYING FOR THE BEST LEADER AND WHETHER IS BLACK,WHITE COLOURED OR INDIAN UNTIL THEN WE WILL HAVE SUCH PEOPLE LEADING US ,I DONT CARE WHETHER I HAVE A GREEN OR YELLOW PRESIDENT AS LONG AS HE'S GOT LEADERSHIP SKILLS AND IS LEAD BY GOD IS OKAY ! - GLADYS |
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My leader
29/08/2008 10:01
I am 100% moved by this great Man(Mr Ramaphosa), we really needs leaders of this character and attitudes. I truly believe SA can be a better and harmonious place if we all can stands together for fight against inhumanity&crime. Our current leaders turn blind eye. Maphosa for presidency(positive future for africa) I salute you, you earned my respect, to all fellow SOUTH AFRICAN, Men and Women(all races,colour),lets do it like we did before, Let us unite against crime, GO SA's GO!!together we can - Thembisane Ngesi |
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Reality
29/08/2008 10:01
Hi Mr Cyril Ramaphosa please can you speak to you colleagues who suppose to be our leaders and make them see the reality of this Killer - Crime in our country its good you speakinig to the masses but this vision must be driven by our leaders as well. - Kasy Aboo |
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