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It's time for a change
07/10/2008 13:41  - (SA)  

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  • Ndumiso Khoza, News24 User

    There is a saying that goes, "there is a time for everything". When one thinks about this statement, I'm not sure many of us really understand what it means.

    How and when do we know what this specific time is for? Is it even possible to ascertain such a concept?

    As I am writing this, I am getting nervous about the subject I have chosen for this article. It might not be my intention, but I cannot help but notice how similar it might be to potential campaigns for Elections '09.

    At the same time, it is impossible for me not to discern that it might have some undertones to Barak Obama's "Change" campaign as well. Maybe it is just some coincidence, or maybe there is more to this than that.

    Unfortunately, I am not here for speculation. All I can do is relate this to what it personally means to me. What motivated me to write about this is a song by John Denver of the same title.

    As I was listening to Denver's profound and insightful lyrics, I realised that whether we like it or not we, as South Africans, are going through a significant change of our own.

    What this change may entail in future, no one really knows. What I do know and believe whole-heartedly is that we the citizens of this country have more of a role and a say as to what this country eventually becomes than we care to comprehend.

    The last decade has been about empowering our leaders to stand for us and enforce our beliefs and desires as a proud people of this nation. As this era draws to its eventual conclusion, I think the power is shifting more from our leaders to us, the people.

    This is not only drawn on the overwhelming popularity of ideas whose time had come like blogs and user generated news content, but businesses have also gone through a time where they refocused from middlemen to trading directly with their customers and suppliers.

    Stop relying on politicians

    I have been accused in many occasions of being overly optimistic and naively positive about a lot of things, including the outlook of South Africa as a whole. I am one of many actually, who believe that as improbable as it may seem, challenges like crime will eventually draw to a decline.

    This may not occur soon enough, but even issues like unemployment and poverty could also be solved with overwhelming success.

    What we need to do though is stop relying on our politicians and government to solve these problems for us. Yes, they have a responsibility and mandate to do that, but so do we, to some extent.

    South Africans have such an attitude of entitlement that we personally don't feel like we have to do anything in order to gain something. We have divorced ourselves from our own moral responsibility to deal with things that affect us.

    We all know that crime and poverty affect us directly, yet fail to be conscious of the fact that if we came together as people who cared, we could have more effect than we expect our government to have.

    I am not saying that it would be easy, but I have come to realise that is why I think and view things the way I do. I know the potential that we have and know that there are many people who think the same way, and like me have no idea what to do or even where to begin. Well, we have to start somewhere.

    The time for procrastination is drawing to a steady end. If we want a country worthy to raise our children in, then the onus is on us, every single one of us, to realise that we have the power to shape this country into what we envision it to be.

    And there is no better time to start than now!

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      My contribution is as follows:
    07/10/2008 13:46
    1) I pay super tax 2) I spend in the economy 3) I do not speed 4) I do not commit crime. I have done the above for years now. I think I have already been overly generous with my contribution. I reserve the right to be negative about the many many idiots running this place into the ground. - AJ
     
      @Ndumiso
    07/10/2008 13:50
    PLEASE, dude start your own party... I will GLADLY vote for you... - Francois
     
      Its time for a Change
    07/10/2008 13:52
    Well said, its so refreshing to read something positive for a change. I suppose the ususal suspects will spoil it for us optimists though. We need more people with a positive attitude in this country - negativity is like a cancer to poor old SA. Wouldnt it be great if we could all think positive and take responsibility for our future? - Jacqui
     
      It is really time for change
    07/10/2008 13:53
    All those who are threatening to leave for Europe must do that right now so that We can come together as one and fight issues that affect all of us in the Republic of SA.Stop whinning and empower,protect one another. - ML
     
      Thank you
    07/10/2008 13:55
    I have finaly read an artical on this website that concentrated on the positive. I feel that this country has the people and the resourses todo and be anything. so thank you for confirming everything i belive we can do - Erich
     
      *sigh* ....this says it all.......
    07/10/2008 13:56
    Can you imagine working for a company that has a little more than 500 employees and has the following statistics: 29 have been accused of spousal abuse 7 have been arrested for fraud 19 have been accused of writing bad cheques 117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses 3 have done time for assault 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit 14 have been arrested on drug- related charges 8 have been arrested for shoplifting 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year 373 in total or approximately 70% Can you guess which organization this is? Give up yet? It's the 535 members of the SOUTH AFRICAN PARLIAMENT - (The same group that cranks out hundreds of new laws each year designed to keep the rest of us in line!) - e-mc2
     
      yes but...
    07/10/2008 13:57
    look friend, I am all too happy to do something myself to make the country a better place and to help solve poverty and crime, but me effective 36% of tax should be doing that work! Let government do away with tax and I will direct that money to those causes!!! keep dreaming. What is important is to use your vote! I'm using mine to vote for change in the next election, I am tired of being taken for a ride by the ANC! - Julius
     
      Gov
    07/10/2008 13:57
    It is easy we stop paying tax and take all that money and pay to repair roads build houses and so on .... then at least we will see something happening and then crime will come down and all in gov will leaf because there will be no money to pay billins to them every month. Make separate acount put all the money there Get company to run the money free of charge. Can promise you there will be some one to run it. Better South Africa Good roads no crime. - jav
     
      Accept this simple truth
    07/10/2008 13:58
    The way only to effect change, is to change yourself. - KoosS
     
      Great read
    07/10/2008 13:59
    The problem is we put a goverment in power and pay them money to do these kinds of things. The onus should not be on the general population to make changes of this magnitude. The Govermnet should act as a catalyst and the rest will follow. Life is hard enough as it is raising a family and trying to keep our heads above water. I mean a simple policy like enforcing litter fines with all procedes going to community development would be a start, we would have clean streets and some money to build. - Ulaka
     
      Positivity vs Negativity
    07/10/2008 14:02
    It's uplifting to read such a positive article. However it's difficult to be postive, and who can blame suspicious white South Africans, faced with with BEE, AA with all TV adverts geared to make whites look stupid in stark contrast to black executives and their bright futures. These gut-wrenching issues make us negative and so what if we are? Thanks for the article anyway... - Deon
     
      I agree, but WHAT can we do.
    07/10/2008 14:02
    As you said, WE, the 'people' must take care of ourselves. I would LOVE to stop paying tax and rather use that money to improve my security system, fix potholes in my street, buy electricity generators, etc, but if I do, our government will get mad as they won't have money for overseas shopping sprees etc, and I will get arrested. Unfortunately there's NOTHING we can do, except maybe become personal buddies with the 'elite' to get somewhere. our government has not delivered in 14years, so why 'change' now? - Juan
     
      Election Campaign
    07/10/2008 14:02
    It looks like the election campaign as started for some. This site is for views, opinions and the like it is not campaigning. Who are you campaigning for anyway? The new ANC? Idiot!!! - Hero Nakamura
     
      Ignorance is misinformation
    07/10/2008 14:07
    The government is running feeding scheme to children attending public schools. If you can just leave your jacket in your workplace or leafy surburb and travel to public schools in both rural areas and urban areas then you will ackowledge the efforts being made by the government. For your information the government is also subsidizing the NGOs which are busy alleviating the plight of the poor. It will be a noble idea if you can leave your cosy surburb and dirty your hands with community projects. - Calvin Mkhize
     
      Whose change?
    07/10/2008 14:07
    Ndumiso, I always enjoy your articles, and I'll be skipping in the mountains the day all South Africans think like you. But now you are overly optimistic. The divide in SA went from black vs white to rich vs poor. Poor is now baying for the blood of capitalism, while the ones in SA have the education fears communism. In short what will be good for the poor will be bad for the rich, and the poor is the majority. We all want what we consider to be good, but its mutually exclusive. - HT
     
      Ndumiso - I really love reading your articles...
    07/10/2008 14:12
    You have such a balanced, mature, responsible manner about you. Well done on your attitudes and on another article that encourages thoughts that we should all be having. I agree the time for procrastination is over and this culture of entitlement gets you nowhere except perhaps bitter. Since you listened to a song and got your inspiration for the time to change, perhaps we should all listen to another song by Michael Jackson - I'm starting with the man in the mirror. - Karen
     
      Although I agree with most of what you said...
    07/10/2008 14:12
    I thought the whole reason WHY we have a government is so that the public does not need to waste their time with issues like crime. I mean really, this is why we have a police force. I certainly don't get paid to do their job. If they fail, it is government's failure. Don't go blaming the average joe... rather vote for someone else! - ShRoOm
     
      change?
    07/10/2008 14:14
    I will gladly fight crime on behalf of the government (is this not why we have the police?) - for a small fee :) - ShRoOm
     
      Positive thinking
    07/10/2008 14:24
    Dont get me wrong here; but i am tired of finger pointing those who critice the country. As for your comments, we as the public have tried to band together, especially crime. Rememebr the petition that went to mbeki recently, and the turn oout of protests at parliment. What was the result? The security minister said if you dont like the crime then leave. At the same time, we are told if we leave that we are not good south africans. See the contradicition? - Robert Ndungane
     
      You see this Ndumiso?
    07/10/2008 14:25
    30 minutes after you posted your article and our egos get in the way. And I think thats our problem. We are all fighting for our own good, and we are all so aggro-defensive! Should we exchange agendas? If I concern myself with change for my neighbour and my neighbour concern himself with change for me? - HT
     
      4th Time around
    07/10/2008 14:25
    Voters would start getting educated about the whole process as in relation to the first time around. Glad to see this happening. - Tsotsi
     
      Calvin Mkize
    07/10/2008 14:25
    Practise what you preach then, maybe you should do the same and move your ass and make a change yourself. I have already been involved with various community projects just in case you thinking I'm like you whom does nothing but bitch and moan and sit on your ass! - Win
     
      yet again
    07/10/2008 14:30
    mate, you have done it again, another great article that was worth reading (and free of spelling mistakes i might add) - cuba
     
      Hero Nemukura
    07/10/2008 14:32
    You're such an idiot,you made me laugh - ML
     
      @Hero Nakamura
    07/10/2008 14:32
    See you are as intolerant as the rest of Africa!! - Martin
     
      @Hero Nakamura
    07/10/2008 14:32
    You are always calling people in this forum idiot and moron. So do tell, what qualifies you to do so? Rocket scientist? World renowned political analyst/economist? And what would be your motivation for commenting in these forums? Because it appears to be an opportunity to insult others. Passive aggressive relief for your social dysfunction? You can always just contribute something useful. - HT
     
      Entitlement
    07/10/2008 14:32
    "South Africans have such an attitude of entitlement that we personally don't feel like we have to do anything in order to gain something" - That one sentence sums up the attitude of a vast proportion of South Africans to a tee! It is also probably the biggest problem in SA e.g. "I don't to work but I should be entitled to a nice house, car etc... so I'll just take it and kill the cutrrent owner!!!" - The Anti Bunny
     
      Excellent Article
    07/10/2008 14:35
    It is all about education, morals and work ethics. No attitude of entitlement. - hc
     
      Well said
    07/10/2008 14:36
    If everybody was as positive and all embracing of his fellow South Africans, we would be well on the road to success. I think the first thing for us to do, is accept each other, all races and backrounds- as fellow South Africans. Then look towards our leaders to do just that. And then see what small contribution we can make to make ours and other's lives better. - Mark T
     
      Couldn't help smiling
    07/10/2008 14:38
    25 years from now on there will be precisely the same replies. Thank God for positive news and all the negatives please leave. By then most would have left. - Sentinel
     
      Black man walking around, asking for change
    07/10/2008 14:41
    Somebody should give that man a job! Ndumiso for President :) - Sinudeity@Gmail.com
     
      John Denver....omigod...but consider this
    07/10/2008 14:41
    There is no crisis but a media-creation of a ANC crisis.Why d u think Terror's first stop is the media.BUT we need to rid and cleanse ourselves from these opportunists. They are the power-hungry spoilers.Our only interest is delivery of the FREEDOM CHARTER.So our cleansing is unashamedly public but needed in order for these gatekeepers to gate keep somewher else.Why dont u invite them to the DA they will be competing against u 2.heh heh heh - Cape Town Kid
     
      @ Calvin
    07/10/2008 14:43
    Like many noble ideas, the "concept" of the feeding scheme for primary schools, is not reaching the intended recipients. You are so quick to point out that great advances have been made, but they have affected precious few. We need more, more effort, more honest people, more faith in our country. - sarah
     
      VOTE ANC, ANC LIVES, ANC LEADS
    07/10/2008 14:44
    SA is a democratic country and those who want to form their own party or vote DA,FF+ are free to do so, Lekota and those who are against the ANC are busy throwing threats around of forming their own party others like Ndumiso wants change, piece of advice we are only few months away from the election so stop wasting your time cause alliance is going to give you a whipping, the sad is the people who are going to vote for the ANC are not sitting in from of the PC, u can also have Arc TUTU as pres. - Paul aka the communist Montele
     
      Nice thought, but where's the solid answers?
    07/10/2008 14:52
    I like the sentiment, but it's the same as me saying I'd like to be rich and not having a plan to get there. What I would like to see is people coming up with practical solutions to these problems, not just saying "we can change" and "we can shape our future", I need more than that. Your articles are great, but if you're serious about making a difference then take it further. If idiots like Malema can be heard, it shouldn't be that hard. - Chris
     
      Shroom
    07/10/2008 14:54
    So according to you,if I see a crime commited,I should rather phone the police,and when they eventually answer the phone,I should report the problem to them,then wait three hours for them too come out,then have them bingle the case in court,as oppose to me helping if I see some one being robbed,shot at,raped,murdered?It is the patriotic duty of every citizen to assist the police where ever they can,the police can't be in a million places at the same time. - proud to be white
     
      Dear Calvin
    07/10/2008 15:00
    You see my man thats the problem with the ANC goverment...running a country is not about feeding schemes, we have th UN and world hunger groups, we need to think before we are so loyal to the ANC...sorry thats a typo....A bsoluetly N o C lue - bob
     
      Who will do this?
    07/10/2008 15:01
    Ndumiso, who will do this? Yes, it is a challenge. You are so right and your views are confirmed by most on this poll (Except the uneducated) We need someone like you to take lead in a movement like this. A movement based on positivity, a movement that will do its best to fix the problems instead of waste time on blaming others. The people in this movement will look at ways to work with others instead of wanting to suppress their views. We need you, Ndumiso... - Mojojo
     
      Every Community Needs One...
    07/10/2008 15:01
    Ater listening to a motivational speaker for an hour, one comes away feeling unstoppable and empowered. SA needs a charismatic leader, like Madeba, who can share vision and uplift peoples spirit to a point where they believe they can make a difference. One who is racially unbiased and can get everyone pulling in the same direction for a better SA. If we are lucky 10% of all SA's can motivate themselves, but we need an Inpirational Leader to whip up some enthusiasm to move us forward. - SeanO
     
      But what kind of change do we need?
    07/10/2008 15:03
    Why do politicians all over the globe refuse to invest more in education? Why do they insist on spending money on weapons instead? Perhaps we need to have more MOTHERS in charge, instead of power hungry MEN? Perhaps that's the CHANGE every country on the planet needs? Either that, or men who are committed to giving every child an equal opportunity to learn, so that they can serve their society by offering their talents in the form of goods and services that we call "wealth"? - Puhleez
     
      @ Calvin
    07/10/2008 15:05
    Calvin, I would like to respectfully oppose what you said. I travel KZN exstensively from North to South doing work for the D.O.W and I can agree to a very small extent that government are doing so much for rural education and social welfare. From what I have witnessed first hand is the huge lack of these services in the rural areas. I get my hands dirty all the time and I can honestly say the feeling amongst the rural people are changing as well. They getting more and more fedup. - Richard Hipkin
     
      Stop relying on Politicians..WHAT????
    07/10/2008 15:07
    Ndumiso, should we stop relying on politicians because they simply refuse to do their jobs...do what they get paid for. So Joe Citizen should fight crime because politicians refuse to serve the people, refuse to protect the people they were elected by. So why do we have politicians..for the gravy train only. What are we missing here? - SH
     
      @Ndumiso, We have the power, agree, AND we need to hold Gov. accountable.
    07/10/2008 15:10
    Like your attitude. Now, where is the party that represents ALL SAfricans? Then lets get to work on people like Calvin & Hero something, etc. We need to take the blinkers off from these guys eyes & get them to see the TRUTH. THEN, we can unite & achieve a "beter life for all" in SA. Lastly & NB. The gov should serve US!!. We are not there to serve THEM (current ANC & NEC & followers mentality & attitude). - Matrix
     
      @ shroom
    07/10/2008 15:10
    The other day I witnessed a robbery in progress, I flagged down ADT who radioed the police, the robbers were caught. My job is done, the police did their job and it didn't cost me a cent.... see easy when you actually stop being such a typical whingy white boy... :) :)Yes the police are there to combat crime but they need the help of the communities to alert them to it. - Richard Hipkin
     
      Vision Zuma
    07/10/2008 15:12
    I share the same vision as Zuma and the ANC for South Africa. Their vision is the only true vision to make SA a better country. - Thabo Z
     
      TRUE!!
    07/10/2008 15:15
    Could not have said it better myself! You have a great outlook, I wish more people would see SA the way you and I do! - Kalvin
     
      Hmmm, some good suggestions. ANC do it, why not us???
    07/10/2008 15:15
    Withold taxes, i.e. not by us, but pool it in account managed by 3rd party. If gov. performs then give them the money, else not??? OR, gather a MOB (just like strikers(Cosatu)), isolate some officials & force them to listen to the people??? Many options, but sadly, wont work. They have the Mkonto & ANCYL that will kill 4 Z. That leaves 1 option. Emmigrate & take taxes, skills, etc... with you. Other options??? Where is BigBadBob on the subject??? - Matrix
     
      NONSENSE
    07/10/2008 15:17
    The only people that can make a difference are the ones in power and that is the pathetic anc. And they are doing just that making this country theirs and making it all black. In my culture the white culture we like good food, good wine, comfortable living, cleanliness, nice living conditions and beautiful women but the black people dont like that just look around the country it is a spaza shop in the middle of a rubish dump aka SA - Terence
     
      I don't understand
    07/10/2008 15:17
    First, everybody votes ANC&threatens to vote ANC again&again (like on previous posts) &then people like you say we should forget about politicians&do our own thing.Huh???? Thats exactly why voting for a good, honest, progressive government is so esential!! So that I can go to work,do my part in participating in the economy&the government takes care of the laws,taxes,streets etc. If we work together insteed of against each other,life would be so much better in SA. - M
     
      1st NP gov, alianated majority, then ANC clever but no delivery, next?
    07/10/2008 15:24
    either: - uneducated leader(s)? Delivery on promises & services? (doubt it) OR New True Democratic Party that represent ALL of SA? No, as per Zuma comments, more of the same OR will it take 30years before the positives materialise??? I will wait & see while being safe, not in SA. Bye bye. - Matrix
     
      Ndumiso...
    07/10/2008 15:25
    While I truly admire your optimism, it is sometimes difficult to stay positive. It is not fair to us as South Africans to be continually let down by our government; and for all our optimism for what this beautiful country could be, what can we really DO?? We deserve more; we have the right to feel safe in our homes and see our tax money used for the upliftment and betterment of the ENTIRE nation, yet what are our alternatives with this not being the case? How CAN we personally change things? - dh
     
      Time for change?
    07/10/2008 15:25
    Thank you Ndumiso for reminding us that change is needed aka Barak Obama,but that change will never happen if the electorate follow Archbishop Tutu's example of not voting. The Arch calls for viable opposition, but then says there is non to vote for. I wonder how viable opposition comes to be, if nobody votes for an opposition, allowing it to grow. Please educate me. - Sven Gohre
     
      Change
    07/10/2008 15:26
    You do your best to sound positive, but it sound empty talk to me, especially if I see what happens on day to day basis in RSA. I already work internationally, but still spend my money in RSA, build business there, do no crime etc etc. If we as a people want change, we need to vote differently. That is the only thing governments understand, a kick in the butt at the ballot box. The current parties does not give this option, we need something new, right now. - Boerseun
     
      Thabo Z - Zuma's Vision
    07/10/2008 15:28
    What IS zuma's vision? How will it improve the country? - Sinudeity@Gmail.com
     
      Good article
    07/10/2008 15:31
    Well done Ndumiso!! As you said, the sense of entitlement is rife, especially on this board. Change starts with ourselves. How we treat our family, neighbours, employer and employees. It comes down to respect. For yourself and for others, their person and possessions, and for the law. Not just the "big" laws, but especially for the smaller ones. Littering, smoking in public places, talking on your cell phone while driving, not stopping at a Stop street. Let's do it! - LTR
     
      @ Terence
    07/10/2008 15:32
    Your attempt at hijacking this article only makes you look like the idiot. We having a good discussion, so unless you have nothing constructive to say I suggest you back off. - Richard Hipkin
     
      @proud to be white
    07/10/2008 15:34
    Don't be daft and don't put words in my mouth. Although crime should be sorted out by the police of coarse I will not sit by and watch someone get raped - don't be stupid! What I implied was the bigger picture, and that is one of effective governance. We need to get to that 'zone' where we don't need to worry about rape or murders, when we finally have a police service that drives the fear of God into these motherfookers! Only government can provide this... We as average joe public cannot. - ShRoOm
     
      If you want somthing done do it yourself
    07/10/2008 15:35
    Thats my mission , I am busy working to get my house free from all governmunt services, own water own electricity.Busy working on getting my bussiness al automated (no staff all Machines).Getting vechiles that can drive on any rd. Ones this is done I will not pay any tax anymore then I dont care what happens to this place !!!I had so enough of the ANC I will show them . - charllie
     
      If you want somthing done do it yourself
    07/10/2008 15:35
    Thats my mission , I am busy working to get my house free from all governmunt services, own water own electricity.Busy working on getting my bussiness al automated (no staff all Machines).Getting vechiles that can drive on any rd. Ones this is done I will not pay any tax anymore then I dont care what happens to this place !!!I had so enough of the ANC I will show them . - charllie
     
      Ndumisa very good points you make like always:-)
    07/10/2008 15:37
    but the issue I think is not that as SAns we've divorced ourselves from responsibility. How do you run a successful company when MOST things that makes running a business possible depend on effeciency (in SA's case lack of) gov? Someone I know wanted to start a business which wld have generated employment, but his application for a gov loan was rejected not because the business didn't have feasibility prospects but as you maybe aware in the gov its about WHO YOU KNOW and political connectivity! - Vicky
     
      New political party
    07/10/2008 15:38
    The educated "black" people need to join the ANC, and no I'm not campaigning for them. But from where I'm sitting I believe it will be easier to change it from inside than say starting a new party. To get rid of people like Julius is to vote them out. And to do that you need to be inside. Just a thought - Kunjalo
     
      @Richard Hipkin
    07/10/2008 15:38
    You are not getting what I was implying. I was alluding to having an effective police service which results in less crimes being committed, so that we may have a country where one does not need to worry about crime. Remember, you don't solve a problem by dealing with the symptoms... you deal with it at the CAUSE! - ShRoOm
     
      New political party
    07/10/2008 15:38
    The educated "black" people need to join the ANC, and no I'm not campaigning for them. But from where I'm sitting I believe it will be easier to change it from inside than say starting a new party. To get rid of people like Julius is to vote them out. And to do that you need to be inside. Just a thought - Kunjalo
     
      @AJ
    07/10/2008 15:39
    You are not the only one making such contributions and you have no bloody right to drag us all down - Thembalabantubonke
     
      This article is like a Cappuccino
    07/10/2008 15:40
    Having read and re-read this article I am of the view that although it may impart a warm, post-copulation sense of wellbeing, it unfortunately lacks substance. It reminds me of a cappuccino - when you get beyond the steam and the froth you are left with little else. For change to occur we need to unite and unfortunately the portents for unity amongst our polarized society are weak indeed. More chance of having an afternoon picnic with Hitler the way things are at present. - Cynical
     
      Mmmmmm......
    07/10/2008 15:43
    Nice try, sad fact is, when I leave work I still have to endure the R21 full of potholes, with no (corrupt) Metro police in sight, moron taxi drivers (and many others as well) who do what ever they feel (like driving in the yellow lane), black cars with flashing lights and sirens escorting ?so very important? government assholes to the once thriving, clean and safe city of Pretoria, now degraded and destroyed to a the so-called ?city of tshwane?. I still have to tolerate sky-high crime levels, total incompetency, BEE and AA, a crumbling JSE, a weakening Rand, Zuma, Winnie, Malema etc. etc. etc. You?re still right though, we desperately need change! A change from a barbaric, uncivilized African mentality to a civilized, law obeying one. And a desperate change of government! - Bruce
     
      @ Sinudeity@Gmail.com../ Zuma's vision is.../
    07/10/2008 15:44
    ensuring that every household has a shower,i wonder if eskom will keep up with huge electricity demand to run such showers for our esteemed future president and co:-) - Vicky
     
      Change
    07/10/2008 15:44
    I must say i agree with u Ndumi.......It's amazing how negative people are....change comes from within..I hold a diploma in Civil Engineering & a full time employee for a construction company, am still young, can still go & party as much as i like but hence am not happy with what i see & would like to bring some change, i started my own NPO for youth & community development. I spend a lot of my free time trying to put hope back into people's lives to make it worth living... - Proudly black
     
      ML
    07/10/2008 15:45
    Why is there such a venomous outlook to those Saffers wanting to leave the country? it just does not make sense that in a world where migration is common practise that there is this continual anger or hatred towards them. I think the only ones who can understand are the family's with young children that do not want them exposed to a violent environment. What the hell is so wrong with that???? - Lyle
     
      Zuma's vision being different is a myth. Same old same old
    07/10/2008 15:45
    He's said time and again his economic policy is what is currently in practice. He won't change anything except the faces at the trough. But by the looks of them, they look hungrier and meaner than the last lot. Too many communists (why do we still have them?) in powerful places makes anybody with half a brain nervous. Its time for a change in government, 15 years is long enough. The ANC leopard cannot change its spots. Vote with your brains not hearts - Zoo
     
      Thabo Z , Sinudeity
    07/10/2008 15:47
    See! You both want change for the good. Thabo thinks that Zuma will be good change (and he does seem like the best option for the poor), Sinudeity thinks not (communism is bad for the rich). We are so diverse. Whats good for the one is bad for the other. So should we decide who should win and who should loose? - HT
     
      Setting the example...
    07/10/2008 15:49
    If government would set us a decent example of how to combat crime then maybe we would not have to try and do this on our own? But alas, most people in government are known criminals already - perhaps not convicted, but it works well when you can manipulate the justice system from a position of power. I really don't know who I will vote for next year...but it certainly won't be the ANC! - ShRoOm
     
      Unemployment, Poverty, Crime
    07/10/2008 15:51
    Can't see how we'll ever overcome poverty, crime and unemployment, if there is no decline in population, or at least no growth every year. SA is bursting at it's seams. It is a loosing battle. Sadly, globally it has been proven that more affluent families (REGARDLESS OF RACE)have fewer kids - thus the gap between rich and poor is getting bigger and bigger. How do you have kids if you don't have food for yourself? How do we change this vicious circle? - Ceecee
     
      It is time for change
    07/10/2008 15:52
    but I think there will be big changes if Trevor Manuel, President Thabo Mbeki and the rest that have left because of the recall of President Mbeki to form their own Party!! what a turn around that will be. Oh well one can only dream... mmmm - Jorene
     
      Choice
    07/10/2008 15:52
    Your attitude is a choice. What you do or don't do is also a choice. If people want to leave SA, that is their choice. It is my choice to not entertain the opinions of people who feel they have to justify to me why they have left, or why they think everything in SA is bad. My choice is to change the way I act and live to affect positive change. Just take one step in the right direction. - Louis
     
      @HT - "communism is bad for the rich"
    07/10/2008 15:55
    I am not rich by any means but even I know that Communism is bad for the poor too. The only people that benefit from Communism is the lazy. And even then they won't be benefitting for long once all the resources dry up and there is no food on the supermarket shelves for them to buy. The problem with Communism is that people become lazy and start refusing to work. Maybe this is why the ANC likes it so much... the gravy train will run out of steam someday though. - ShRoOm
     
      @ Chris ...
    07/10/2008 15:55
    "Nice thought, but where's the solid answers?" - amen, totally agree. Perhaps step nr 1 could be good old fashioned neighbourliness. Step nr 2 could be Neighbourhood Watch groups in every neighbourhood. Remember the days when we knew everyone on our street? - Saffa
     
      BIGGEST Change needed : Corruption
    07/10/2008 15:56
    If we can RID corruption out of the government and businesses, then our job is done! Billions more for Education and the war on poverty. What is Zuma's plans with regards to battling corruption? Screw it, I cant keep a straight face, knowing a corrupt scumbag will be in charge. - Sinudeity@Gmail.com
     
      @Sinuedity
    07/10/2008 15:59
    Now really dude, aren't they writing to you enough? Why do u post yo email address here? We'll start sending u love letters if u r not careful - Mimi
     
      NDUMISO FOR PRESIDENT
    07/10/2008 16:00
    yha that the day Julius, Vavi and the Zuma hooligans will kill and crush us to death as their immortal useless leader will not have the opportunity...now so scared that they want to rope Mbeki in to help campaign for them...hahahahaaaa monkeys will be exposed as they need to explain to us black educated middle class who does not have time to go and toyi toyi in ppietermaritzburg on a monday morning but go to work if you know what i mean as i have been asking myself if they took a day off - respect
     
      @Sinudeity - "What is Zuma's plans with regards to battling corruption?"
    07/10/2008 16:05
    He will take two showers instead of just the one? I am saddened by the fact that this country is going to be run by people who cure AIDS by taking a shower and eating garlic and beetroot... people who tell you that to stop being the victim of theft you need to stop purchasing expensive goods that attract thieves. This is typical African mentality. We need some 'thinkers' in government, not clowns that sing and dance on stage for popularity, and not people who threaten to 'smash' opposition. - ShRoOm
     
      Lee none is aggressive against those who chose to
    07/10/2008 16:05
    leave, except for in some cases it's the arrogance this is presented to those who chose to stay. SA has her challenges which country doesn't? on the other hand you get the misguided who believe immigration equal unpatriotic. As SAns we have a lot to learn ito tolerance. - Vicky
     
      Ndumiso
    07/10/2008 16:07
    You?ll see absolute massive change in this country if just a few things change: a) stop AA and BEE so that deserving, competent people who actually CAN and really WANT to do the job can do so. b) fix our police service and BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY c) stop the corruption in government. And now I?ll wake up and make myself a very strong cup of coffee with maybe a shot of whiskey in it! I forgot, we?d much rather spend millions on a stupid soccer world cup rather than fighting crime, improve infrastructure, build our OWN universities rather than taking existing ones from the people who actually built them, build more prisons etc. etc. etc. Ugh! Why waste my time, this is damn Africa! - Bruce
     
      @Paul andThabo
    07/10/2008 16:08
    Why do your leaders refuse to come to the ECape, what plans does JZ & cronies have for our country. It is our right to refuse to be lead by uneducated, incompetend shower heads. We want real leaders that can negotiate, not clowns that dances infront of a crowds and yes the needs of our people should be properly adressed you communist half brained morons. ps please leave communist out next to your name it reveals and proves your narrow minded and stupidity. Counter Revolutionary Hahaha!!!!LoL - Proudly SA
     
      @ Calvin the Blind Follower
    07/10/2008 16:09
    Just because the ANC feeds a couple of kids that makes them alright i guess...according to you? u sir are an imbecile! - Anti-Zuma - Wash aways corruption..quick, quick!
     
      @Sinudeity, Black Diamonds
    07/10/2008 16:11
    Even bigger change needed: morals. We seem void of that these days. We need GOOD examples, like you, PROUDLY BLACK. You are giving back to the community. Can you go to schools, show the children they can make something good of their life? The successful (I'm talking to YOU, black diamond) must mentor our youth. - HT