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No Way
10/10/2008 11:18
I dont think of the "split" as being some elaborate plan by the ANC to get all the votes. They wouldnt know an original or innovative idea if it slapped them in the face! Also, as can be seen from the messages on News24, most people are concerned with the black/white scenario - what we must now forget is that there is also a very deep distrust between Xhosa/Zulu. I am surprised they worked together for so long but then they had a common enemy i.e. the whites. Now they have turned on each other! - cos |
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Nice
10/10/2008 11:20
Good article, makes you think. My main problem is that Mbeki pledged his loyalty to ANC in his departing speech. Now who's ideology is Terror and them following. I personally thik they are greed and want to stay in power forever. Lets just wait and see. I will vote anyway ! - Squash |
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new ANC
10/10/2008 11:23
the mariage is broken ana i will vote for the new ANC. - zoo |
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Poor Francious
10/10/2008 11:23
Oh poor francious, do you really have to expose to us that you are a die supporter of the cape town based propaganda generating machinery, so some of us the breakaway party is a breath of fresh air, here is a person in Willie Madisha that was agriviated and purged way before the eminent split, now do you think that would be a ploy for him, in fact Fran?s for the sake of democracy we would rather have you and your kind voting for other opposition parties. - Kolobe |
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Hopefully
10/10/2008 11:25
I have to say I hope there is a split. Hopefully then all those incompetent fools that are governing us will wake up and realise what is actually going on. Maybe then they will change their views of "Screw the poor, I'll get myself rich" to that of "Servant of the people". The ANC has outlived its usefullness. Time to let REAL democracy ride the high tide! - WM |
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It is one way the new party could go but....
10/10/2008 11:26
I think that it is more likely that the new party will form a coalition with the DA. Given the current infighting, I think that it would be highly improbable for the two ANC parties to work together again. If the DA and the new ANC party does combine forces, I truly believe that we could be at the dawn of the first truly democratic era in our history. The major democracies around the world have two equally strong parties. This keeps politicians in check as the vote could sway either way. - Sam |
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Floor Crossing?
10/10/2008 11:27
Ummm... The ANC recently (last month I think) tabled a montion to abolish Floor Crossing in Parliament. Said motion was passed, so therefor floor crossing can no longer happen... A vote for any opposition means a vote against the ANC... Full Stop. - The Anti Bunny |
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Just can't wait for the new party
10/10/2008 11:33
and usher the most capable guy as president. Ladies and gentlemen please welcome Mr Thabo Mbeki as SA new state president. Shame Zuma, trying all he can to rid himself of corruption charges. It is not that easy leader. All shall be equal before the eyes of the law. Zuma said it himself that we are soft on crime. Let him face the law then. - Welile |
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Just can't wait for the new party
10/10/2008 11:33
and usher the most capable guy as president. Ladies and gentlemen please welcome Mr Thabo Mbeki as SA new state president. Shame Zuma, trying all he can to rid himself of corruption charges. It is not that easy leader. All shall be equal before the eyes of the law. Zuma said it himself that we are soft on crime. Let him face the law then. - Welile |
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That is a cynical view
10/10/2008 11:33
This is a healthy process towards mature democratisation. It neatly homogenises the masses and their agenda within a party that is focused on their cause, whilst migrating people with different views to a platform that is more relevant to their needs. It will bring more robust debate and is being driven by real dissonance within the redundant one-size-fits-all legacy of an ANC that was formerly united by its common enemy and is now divided by its internal differences. - pete |
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All SA will benefit from this split
10/10/2008 11:36
It will be a good thing for the politics of SA more especially after the shubby way our former state president Mr Mbeki was treated. I think the NEC was very spiteful in acting like novices in that manner. A political revenge is for incompetent novices. Didnt Zuma actually ask to be sacked by Mbeki in the first place? - Zafthes |
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Francois, Your analysis is detached from reality
10/10/2008 11:37
Sometimes it is not only embrassing to read such comments which seem to have been written by someone who was in coma since 1996 and woke up yesterday. Your analysis defies logic and really in all material respect 'inept'and surely there is nothing to comment on your 'hallucination'. Reality is reality broer, the ANC's split is imminent for all reasonable people to see! - Hlabangwane wa Hlabangwane |
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New ANC?
10/10/2008 11:37
Francois, love the conspirecy theory. Fortunatly floor crossing has been abolished, but as in all democratic systems, political parties will always get into the bed of the highest paying playar. It is not only SA politicians that are acting like whores, the world is filled with them. The ID is the best example in SA as they campaigned against the ANC and tried their damdest to get the ANC into power in the Western Cape lol. - Sven Gohre |
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Splinter...
10/10/2008 11:37
Its not a split in da middle but a splinter off a very large group.It wud be very disingenuous if people r playing u like dis.Hence stop reaading conspiracy theories and get on with yr life.Also,yr party should be very very concerned cos the theory that disinterested breakaways were veering towards you now seems unlikely. But I do agree, they will most probably get into "bed' with us should the situation call for it. Heh Heh Heh. - Cape Town Kid |
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cape town
10/10/2008 11:42
At least the cape town polititions are diong something for the people! What have the anc done? Not talking about uttering words they do not know the meaning of. What have they done for us the people? O they are fighting the 3de force that no one knows! - jav |
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Cos,You got it all wrong
10/10/2008 11:42
The common enemy was not white, my 'unlearned' brother,it was apartheid. That's Y wise white people like Bram Fischer,Derek Hanekom,Barbara Hogan joined hands and fought against the idiocy of aprtheid. So what r u talking about, u r still living in the 50's with a warped mentality of labelling every political activists a 'terrorist'!Be informed, learn before you make your six pence comments! - Cos |
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What split.........not their money
10/10/2008 11:43
The only thing politicians can do is to split from the people and eventuallly this split become a canyon for the voters to fall into. But these voters are short minded and will vote for the same over and over again and this the politicians know.
There is one thing a politian never splits from and that is the money they stole from the people - Jason |
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Kolobe, can you pls say that in English?
10/10/2008 11:44
I need to understand what your point is. Here's another chance to see our beloved Mr Mbeki taking over the reigns once more. - Lalala |
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The Split
10/10/2008 11:44
The saying " the Revolution will eat its children" is fast becoming a reality for this bunch, and as the gravy train flies towards the inevitable precipise, all we can do is kneel down and thank God that we live in such a democracy, where a President is fired and there is no blood letting on the streets. Isay, let them get on with the split, and whoever emerges with the " mad kid and the house" after the divorce; can live happily ever after... - Thami |
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@Kolobe
10/10/2008 11:44
Its good to see that you can copy Francois name correctly(not), but it seems that whatever is being debated, you preach democracy, but rant on as a Super White Hater. Racist remarks do not in any way make your argument stronger, it only weakens it and makes racists from both side of the racial divide crawl out of the woodwork. - Sven Willi Gohre |
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I am a member of ANC
10/10/2008 11:44
It is blessed by ancestor such as Dr Langalibalele Dube, Dr P Seme, Dr Xuma, Dr Albert Luthuli, Dr OR Tambo,the late W Sisulu need I say more? I will never leave ANC for a man that jumped ship from UDF, Lekota is not rooted in the ANC. Mbeki is staying in ANC because of these beautiful names above, men who understood ANC as a broad church.Men who accepted change in leadership or any sort of change in the movement. I will stay with my ANC it's a legacy.If I have war to fight I will do it inside. - Martin Radebe |
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fragmented
10/10/2008 11:46
ANC really in shambles: Phosa says this, Duarte ( the official spokeperson) says another, Mantashe shouts something else way different from Phosa and Duarte. Then there is Mnisi, and.. and..Really fragmented unity! At least under Mbeki there was order - Zolile |
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Was thinking the same thing
10/10/2008 11:46
As good as a split would be,the first thing I
thought about when I heard it was the floor crossing issues we have. Voting for a party doesn't really mean much if they just walk over to another one and take your vote with them.
How very Democratic. - V@mp |
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Kolobe
10/10/2008 11:47
What kind is Francois really Kolobe? Your 'you and your kind' comment is extremely offensive and downright racist. I always enjoy reading what you say but you have just crossed the line. - Deon |
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here are the facts
10/10/2008 11:51
DA will get Western Cape and Norhtern Cape perhaps one or two other regions. Further more anc is lossing its mind, votes and its tight grip on the people yes these are the facts. Will there be a break away party that remains to be seen but if that happens things will only get worse for the anc and better for the opposition parties including the mighty DA.... yes these are the facts the sooner greedy racist anc loyalists transform to this the better for all... - Terence |
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What split.........not their money
10/10/2008 11:53
The only thing politicians can do is to split from the people and eventuallly this split become a canyon for the voters to fall into. But these voters are short minded and will vote for the same over and over again and this the politicians know.
There is one thing a politian never splits from and that is the money they stole from the people - Jason |
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Dearest Kolobe
10/10/2008 11:56
At the top of this page, to the right of the picture of my face, my name is written in big bold letters. Can you see it? The day that you learn to spell my name correctly and use proper word structure and tenses, that day I'll give some weight to your opinion. But until then... - Francois Roux |
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?????????
10/10/2008 11:57
Have we reached a stage were people celebrate because one party is/might be spliting...is this a stark realisation that other parties {DA,IFP, UDM,FF,etc] are useless as opposition parties? - MarkAnthony |
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Is it their plan?
10/10/2008 11:58
I think this spit could actually unite the ANC in the long run their ranks are divided and because of the increasing numbers flowing to the ANC?s new opposition party... this might even strengthen other opposition as well causing the ANC to lose seats in parliament or at best lose the election.
I predict a coalition will be formed after the next election to flush out the ANC from power...
The ANC might counter this by reuniting.
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New ANC? .... mhmm
10/10/2008 12:00
I think the split is a refreshing idea. I wonder if it will be ready for the elections early next year though ... mhmmm. What ANC needs now is good competition to keep it on it's toes on service delivery. Not a bad idea after all. And I'd love for dignified intellectuals like Mbeki, Shilowa, Lekota, Phumzile and the likes to lead it - heaven knows I've had enough dancing and swearing from the current ANC. - bee |
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Imagination
10/10/2008 12:00
I do think that Francois' thinking is a bridge too far, and that, if the split happens, it will be a real one. Maybe, just maybe, (I'm ever hopeful) this is the beginning of a new era in SA where democracy actually starts to become real. - Gavin |
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If you split a rotten apple
10/10/2008 12:02
You are still left with two rotten halves. Where's the good in that? - Juan |
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context of speech.
10/10/2008 12:03
According to the speech TL the split is the only resolution because he mentioned many facts which ANC can nolonger rectify.We must not jugde a person we must carefully listen the contex of his speech. - Bethuel |
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It is a show of bullies and flexing assumed power to intimidate.
10/10/2008 12:05
All the factions related to the ANC are doing it. ANCYL that will kill for Zuma; Mbeki vs Zuma camps; SACP intimidation & demand change to socialism; etc... Many examples. Support the hope of a split. They (all political parties) should compete for votes on a fair & equal basis. Then they WILL listen to the public & deliver. If they dont, they will know that they will NOT be voted in again. Simple concept. However, have doubt that SAfricans will mature enough for this to happen. Too many racists. - Matrix |
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Floorcrossing?
10/10/2008 12:06
As far as I know this practice has been stopped -reported widely in the news not so long ago to the delight of everybody. Alliances is a possibility, as in most democracies world wide, so in that respect you may be correct. Well planned ploy? Not likely. - TB |
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I will vote for CNA!
10/10/2008 12:07
I have (white, historically VERY right wing) family in SANDF employment who describes Oom Terror as a very fair, reasonable person. IF he can get his boat to float, my lilly white hand will make my cross next to CNA. Or whatever he wants to call it. SA needs a more moderate party. Not a tit-for-tat, I hate you because you hate me circus show. Would LOVE to hear if Rhamaphosa will join CNA, tough... - HT |
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Allience
10/10/2008 12:08
The ANC has been hijacked by SACP/COSATU.It is becoming irrelevent every time when Mantashe adresses the media. They have recalled Thabo Mbeki now they want to use him for the next coming elections. Let JZ campaign for himself and let us see of he can get a 2/3 majority. The fact is ANC is splitting and will never get a 2/3 majority come next year. The new party might not rule but will nuetralise the ANC power and arrogance of its current leaders. - LSG |
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excellent
10/10/2008 12:11
Very good. - bob |
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Thing & still concerned. What if the new party rules? WHo to vote for?
10/10/2008 12:13
Lets say, the ANC splits. The new ANC (Mbeki group) gets to rule (moderates?). What will improve? More of the same as since 94. OR Zuma / Mothlante ANC wins. Zuma already said policies wont change. However, with radical elements like Maleema, will any changes be for the better for all? Doubt it. DA seen as mainly white party, but what if they come into power? Will be sidelined by ANC voters & stikes, etc. UDM,or Inkatha, not enough support. F-Front, absolute chaos. Who will be able to deliver? - Matrix |
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hooray
10/10/2008 12:14
My entire family and my friends families will vote for this party. Damn you ANC God will never forgive you for what you have done to this country. Stop this bull#*^t or you will God-forsake this land and you find yourselves in hell. - Yams Juju |
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@Francois Roux
10/10/2008 12:14
apologies my chief....You see, thats the results of bantu education...I now cannot spell your name correctly...apartheid was really bad boet!! - Kolobe |
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Malema Lekota
10/10/2008 12:14
The only difference between Malema and Lekota is age difference. - j |
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@ Kolobe...Again
10/10/2008 12:17
And people like you will have nothing to say .There is infact no difference between the current Zuma people, and the outgoing coalition of the wounded, who are talking of the split. Willie Madisha, Terror? Please, man ... Paragons of virtue , they are not. Its all about who gets onto the gravy train, whilst people like you cheer on the sidelines; on hungry stomachs, nogal... - Thami |
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The opposition should be thankful to
10/10/2008 12:20
malema and zuma, without them they couldn't make it! the only unfortunate thing is the instability that comes with the Malemazuma virus! - Vicky |
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A couple of questions, Kolobe
10/10/2008 12:25
Dear Kolobe, your posts always seem to defend the ANC. I would just like to ask you firstly: do you think it is right that taxpayers' money is stolen by Govt officials for their own use? Because there are thousands of cases where this has happened. Secondly, do you think that a man with virtually no education, over 700 corruption charges hanging over him and an immoral background should be elected as president of this nation? If you answer yes, I have to say that your opinion carries no weight. - wazzup |
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Morality
10/10/2008 12:28
We NEED moral politicians. Unfortunately, the right kinds of people, are the wrong kinds of people. For politics. Lekota himself, has been implicated in either corruption/mismanagement. But at least now, there is a viable party for black South Africans to vote for, who dislike the DA etc. Monopolies are bad, eskom/telkom is proof. - Sinudeity@Gmail.com |
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They will fail !
10/10/2008 12:30
The plans of the new party will lack material support hence collapse.ANC is for the majority of SA people thirfore they will determine who to take the power.Lekota must procced and be prepared to face humilliation just as he and his friends did in Limpompo.Amandla!! - Mcebo Mkhize |
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New Party
10/10/2008 12:30
I cant wait for the new party! I wont only vote for it, I will also join as its member. - Chocolate |
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new opposition ke tsona
10/10/2008 12:32
my vote is waiting for the new party wwhichis going to be formed out of ANC,with no doubt if this party can be formed is going to be a strong opposition party. - vts |
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Get of your high horse Francois and crew
10/10/2008 12:32
Francois Roux, truth is you understand what Kolobe is saying. I am sure you cannot even structure one sentence in Sotho. English is not Kolobe's mother tongue. If you can put your superiority issues aside, you'd get exactly what he is saying. - bee |
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@Martin Radebe
10/10/2008 12:35
Yes. But aren't you worried that less-beautiful names may be added to the list? Zuma, Vavi, Malema. All the people you mentioned championed for a UNIFIED SA. I'm afraid the ones I mentioned does not. - HT |
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politic
10/10/2008 12:37
There is no party to beat ANC,and this party will rule untill the end. - Bethuel |
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@ "no name - "cos u got it all wrong"
10/10/2008 12:37
Maybe I should have used the word "apartheid" instead of "white" but your attack justifies that what I said was actually correct. In many ways anything "white" is automatically seen as racist/apartheid but many in SA. By the way I am a learned sista not an "unlearned brother" as suggested by you which attitude shows that you are not are in fact the "unlearned" one! - cos |
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Mandela
10/10/2008 12:39
hasn't said a word. I will be a loyal member of the ANC until he tells me is wrong. Lekota and his co are just bad lossers - ttt |
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I'm tired of all this talk...
10/10/2008 12:40
This is as long and drawn out as the Zim settlement. I've lost interest in both. If they plan on splitting, they should grow balls and do so and stop talking about it. I do think that it can only be a good thing for South Africa. I like Kgalema but I think that less power for the ANC would be a good thing. But really the new party will be filled with the same fools that were in the old party. Hopefully someone will start looking after the people properly. - Rian |
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Split or no Split
10/10/2008 12:41
This split its just a waste or SA citezns time and this so called polititians are using our votes to fight their internal problems, having a new party its not a bad idea, remember the voters are sick and tired of this, you will see the voters will drop rapidly, I am not going to vote up until they sort this fiasco, I love my country I do not want to see another war between the parties or between the Ethnic groups, we are SA citizen living everywhere, no matter I'm Xhosa, Zulu etc. - TG |
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overriding power of a single entity
10/10/2008 12:46
I think you have a point in sugesting no single entity must have overriding power.If power is neutralised we will be able to ensure that it is not abused. Forming a new party is noble and welcome however i have a problem with its champions being poeple like lekota he looks unstable and his supporters are just bitter poeple. After getting into parliament they will start fighting amongst themselves as they look like a type of bunch who are all chiefs and cant accept to be lead by others SKOPINO - sandile |
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Faithful to the ANC
10/10/2008 12:46
I think the ANC was and will always be a united organisation concerning the fact that every house has its problems. I am looking forward to the elections next year and am sure that the ANC will be in power for the next 50 years. I will always be faithful to the ANC - Mthuthuzeli Block |
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@Kolobe, Francs
10/10/2008 12:47
Hlabangwane wa Hlabangwane. My non-bantu education aside, I still had to copy paste that one. We are one hell of a mix.. Francois' name has french origins. Kolobe and Hlabangwane wa Hlabangwane some other not-so-french-origin. We're gonna confuse ourselves and miss-spell. Dont be petty. - HT |
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@ Zafthes
10/10/2008 12:51
Will you please stop sympathizing with Mbeki already or any other politician for that matter. I mean guys these are politicians for crying out loud, big blood suckers all of them...why do we keep feeling sorry for them if they get a taste of their own medicine??? I dont think any politician deserves anyone's sympathy...esh!! - Proudly black |
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Sun sets
10/10/2008 12:53
Let us all vote for the new ANC.Thank you. - BURU |
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Mandela Who.
10/10/2008 12:55
Whoever said every word Mandela utters is right. He is also undecided and the reason he is quite is to protect his image and a rather shady legacy. - mzi |
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Split or no Split
10/10/2008 12:57
Split or no split, as long as the cosatu still with ANC we will always win the election . just like JZ said: ANC will be in power for the kingdom come. - Morongwa |
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@ Bethuel
10/10/2008 12:58
Mr Zuma said ANC will rule till Jesus comes. Seem to remember "Bobelaas" Mugabe saying something similar? His time seems to be near so maybe the coming of Jesus is immenent? - Sonny |
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@ cos
10/10/2008 13:00
No sista, please do not use the excuse that because a "white" attitude was not to your liking that you now seemingly justify your views on "whites"... Realise that you will come across arrogant people and you will come across humble people. Be angry at the arrogant only, do not paint us all with one brush please. Peace. - Richard Hipkin |
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Poor useless DA
10/10/2008 13:01
The funny thing is the DA will end up not being the official opposition once the new party comes into being, and will have even less force and credibility. They have no policies, no clue, and soon even less voters. - WAM |
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Defensive
10/10/2008 13:02
Just wondering way our ANC members are so defensive about this article and the so-called split in the ANC. Long live democracy!!! Short live to handouts!!! - hc |
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ttt
10/10/2008 13:06
I'm sorry, ttt, but Mandela is very old. I don't think he even wants to follow politics anymore. Ma Mbeki and Desmond Tut, however already commented. - HT |
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Cool off Guys!
10/10/2008 13:08
My cross next to the ANC in the ballot paper is guaranteed. Terror can terrify all of us and create a terrorist party if he so wishes. He will become a minority and join other minority parties like UDM,DA,ID,KISS,Soccer and all.
I will stick with my liberators and their policies. We will still be a majority even after elections. - KMK |
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@ TG
10/10/2008 13:10
Yes I can safely say that there is a large portion of the population both black and white that is sick and tired of the same old same old. We tired of all this Zulu-Xhosa, black-white, ANC-DA, split-rouges rubbish. The country needs leadership and what is on display for us is nothing short of disappointing. - Richard Hipkin |
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@wazzup -look im no fan of JZ, and won't vote for him
10/10/2008 13:11
but the man's dad passed away at a young age. And his mother was a domestic worker who couldn't afford schooling for him. He educated himself, and leads an organisation that represents the black elite(ecomonically and intellectually). Even Nelson Mandela respects him and soon will be president.
Apart from his dodgy arms dealings, JZ should be an example for the poor, that anybody can reach for their goals. - tshepo |
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If you had read the Business Day today
10/10/2008 13:11
..you would have come across a fabulous piece of political analysis where the viability of this splinter group is analysed. Bottom line: this proposed party will not be able to offer anything new in terms of policy options. it will basically be a home for people who disapprove of the new leadership.Isn't that what Holomisa and Roelf Meyer ultimately tried to do? and look where they are now.. - VG |
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It has been a looooong week...
10/10/2008 13:12
People are attacking each other left right and center on this comments page...its quite sad really. A lot of you have no idea how to debate, you just attack other people comments and/or person! Express an opinion, query other people opinion....but COME ON MAN!!!! There is no need to resort to racist insinuations and belittle other people! "A good idea is often met with fierce opposition from mediocre minds." - KS |
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All that I can hope for is ...
10/10/2008 13:19
that this split will break the mighty ANC like the Titanic.Once the bad colonialists have been beaten the infighting starts, see the rest of Africa. Bring me the popcorn, I can't wait what the greedy, grubby pawed ANC politicians will do next. - tt |
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No more floor-crossing, yay!
10/10/2008 13:20
Glad there is no more floor crossing! Happy about the split. Gone are the days of holding on to the devil that one knows. Change is good even if it proves bad in the end, at least we would have tried, at least we would have taken a risk. ANC has never worried about us the tax-paying citizens, they are always attacking each other, it's time someone ended that kind of idiocracyand stupidity. Am rooting for you, Lekota! Viva to the new party!!! - Grace |
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@Kolobe
10/10/2008 13:23
Dear Kolobe, did you get those fancy words from your comrades or the cadres? Is it written in your revolutionary book on counter-revolutionary activities by the third force? Or did you pick this up at grass-root level at the ANC headquarters? The only brainwashed person here is YOU. - tt |
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@kolobe
10/10/2008 13:27
Please tell me how old are you? - The man |
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@Martin Radebe
10/10/2008 13:27
They are all dead buddy! Wakey-wakey! So you would support a political party even when its leaders are dead? So if a crazy man takes over the ANC you would still think of the days, that are no more? So you see where I'm going with this? - tt |
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New Party
10/10/2008 13:28
I will vote for the new party bring it on lekota - Fats |
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ANC WILL RULE FOREVER!!!!
10/10/2008 13:30
God chose the ANC to rule this country. Those of you that don't like it have two options, pack your bags and go back to Europe or burn in hell! We the blacks of this country don't need you. - siswe |
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@MarkAnthony
10/10/2008 13:30
You are using logic to think. First, BIG mistake. People don't vote for the ANC because its a good party, because it delivers, because it provides excellent service and a better life for all. You should know this by now. - tt |
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Stop giving the small voice an amplifier
10/10/2008 13:34
Read the posts, Kolobe is a minority and the only thing that gets this person noticed are the people that comment on his comments. It's the same with Malema, a militant and negative fool who thanks to the press has moved his voice from a small room to the nation. - Lindi |
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On the other hand
10/10/2008 13:34
..the splinter party might be wonderful...but then there's the real posssibility that instead of them eating into the ANC's majority, they end up simply displacing most of the other opposition parties that currently exist. So we end up with ANC vs CNA - both of whom have the same policies..God forbid - VG |
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wam bad news
10/10/2008 13:36
if you think the DA is going to loose votes you are sadly mistaken not many (if any) da supporters are going to vote for this new party and contrary to your belief you will be humbly surprised to see the DA's (force) as you say picking up momentum. The Da smells blood the blood of the broken anc...hahahaha RIP anc - Zille |
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@Bethuel
10/10/2008 13:37
You are right, the ANC will rule until the end because the end is close. Watch this space. Neither the Zuma ANC nor the Mbeki ANC will relinquish power. Not without a fight. This could turn ugly.Very ugly. - aaa |
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Re: Morongwa (MORON-gwa)
10/10/2008 13:39
"just like JZ said: ANC will be in power for the kingdom come" Oh yeah? The Nazi party also thought they'd be around forever, so did the Communists in the old USSR, so did Saddam Hussein & co, so did the Taliban, so did the Roman Empire, so did.....anyway, too bad for you if you have to quote JZ for inspiration. - Cynical |
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@Richard Hipkin
10/10/2008 13:39
There you go again, using logic. Tz-tz-tz. If people were educated and if they where intelligent and if they thought for themselves and if, if .... if... if.... - tt |
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You whites must stop with this insulting of our intelligence
10/10/2008 13:40
If splinter party is created you and your pathetic DA will get even less votes! I can't wait to see your faces when there are no DA members in parliament. Then, finally all the land you stole from us will be ours once more! VIVA Zuma and VIVA Malema! - siswe |
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@tt
10/10/2008 13:46
the ANC does deliver, it delivered water, schooling, electricity and self esteem to my cousins in rural Semotlhase. Even FW De Klerk admits that people are living better than under his regime(read his Star interview from a week ago.)
The ANC just too powerful, otherwise they care more about the majority than any other government did before. - tshepo |
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Siswe,
10/10/2008 13:48
please have a look at Zimbabwe, then think again. While we are on the subject of Europe, where is this mythical place. Me and my forefathers haven't been there for the past 300 years.
Politicians are like nappies. They should be changed every now and then, for the same reason. (Kudos to the original author!) - hjs |
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Splinter Group
10/10/2008 13:51
If this is no big deal then why are all the ANC NEC running around like blue arse flys trying to play it down in the media. Also all you ANC loyalist who use this forum are doing the same thing. There is no smoke without fire and all of you are doing your utmost to put it out. Just a thought for the ANC supporters will you stop calling people who have different views to yours racist, take the chip of your shoulder. - Fred |
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@ VG
10/10/2008 13:53
Hayi you've said it...lol ANC vs CNA....for a change i actually agree with you. I don't c why are people so blind to see it. There's no change in the new party could even be worse than ANC hence they've just shown how hungry they are for power....And please will people live MANDELA out of this...for crying out loud the poor man has been through a lot in his life. Will the publisher of this page please publish my comments as well....or is it bcoz am black?? LOL! just jokes people! - Proudly black |
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@siswe
10/10/2008 13:54
Maybe you should go back to school and do maths. The DA has its loyal voters that wouldn't vote for the ANC (old or new). How are they going to loose votes then? Are you and your Malema hit-squad going to "take them out"?And just by the way, when will you give the land back YOU stole from the Xhoi and San? I'm sure they feel the same about you - tt |
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having read siswe's most recent comment
10/10/2008 13:55
I now regret replying to his previous one - how foolish of me to attempt to debate with an idiot! Shame, it's actually quite sad that some people honestly think it's a case of ANC/DA = black/white. I don't know why people even say things like 'you whites' because that is a clear case of generalisation. it would be like me assuming all blacks are as stupid as siswe, which, obviously, is racist and ridiculous - just like siswe! - D |
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VIVA Lekota VIVA
10/10/2008 13:56
I would definitely vote 4 Lekota's party. As soon as the party starts operating I would seek membership and start campaigning 4 them. ANC has failed to elect credible leadership so they will pay the price. Mr shower, Malema and co will lose the elections next year. - Bra T wa bantwana |
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@siswe
10/10/2008 13:58
on whose behalf do you speak for?, man take of your mask and stop your immature behaviour because every sane person can |
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