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Who is the man Motlanthe?

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2008-11-24 10:04

Pitso Tsibolane, News24 User

No one will argue against the fact that a good understanding of a person's background goes a long in trying to understand a person.

Sadly, one's historical background could be used against them by some and it can also be abused to create false memories of the past. However the need to understand a person by having a look at their past achievements and activities is a reasonable request especially if that person happens to be a president of a democratic country.

South Africa has recently inaugurated a president, however there is very little known about the man himself, except off course, the information that has been made available by those around him. Yet South Africans cannot really claim to know the man in charge!

What is even more interesting is the apparent acceptance that we may never get to know these facts by many in our society.

I do not wish to be misunderstood on bringing this issue to the fore; perhaps I should state a few facts about President Motlanthe to dispel any suspicions about my intentions. Firstly I believe that he is the best possible candidate that the ANC could have "deployed" to the presidency after the "recall" of Thabo Mbeki.

I believe he has a proven track record and strong administrative credentials based on his performance as the Secretary General of the ANC and the National Union of Mineworkers. He held a much divided ANC together, and survived the pre-Polokwane as well as the post-Polokwane crises very well. It takes a diplomatic as well as a shrewd politician to pull this feat. He spent ten years in Robben Island for his political convictions, this proves that he is a man ready to stand for his convictions.

Thus I sincerely and truly believe that he has developed a character and a world view that makes him fit for the highest office in the land. His calm demeanour and statesmanlike approach to a few issues that are in the current national discourse has been exemplary i.e. Malema, COPE, Zimbwabwe etc

However, I am interested to know the educational background of our current president. I think this will serve to complete a picture we have of a man we call our president. It does not matter whether he completed school or not especially looking at the time of SA's history that he grew up and lived. Nevertheless, it is important to know such details about a man who is the administrative custodian of the nation.

I am also interested to find out more about his family life. If he is indeed married as it has been reported, why is our first lady off limits? Unlike others I am not interested in her dress style, in her looks or anything of that sort, I believe that the position of the first lady is an important one that can be used for good like it is done all over the world. The nation deserves to know whether the president is separated from his wife or if he is a polygamist. I have no prejudices against polygamy, if the president chooses like Jacob Zuma to practise that particular tradition, it is his prerogative.

Does he have children as has been reported? Who are they and what do they do for a living?

Even though he is a caretaker president, the fact remains that Kgalema Motlanthe is a president of a country, and the least the presidency could do would be to let us in into his other background so we can make up our minds about the character of the man we all call President!

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Juan 11/24/2008 10:21:38 AM
Motlanthe is someone who temporarily does nothing about crime, poverty, etc, etc, until his successor takes over and does nothing fulltime.
VG 11/24/2008 10:21:56 AM
First yuo say you're "interested to know..." and then you say " it's important to know...". But then you fail to substantiate why. I'm also curious, but I certainly don't think its my "right" to know. The poor man didn't ask for the job - he was put there on the understanding that it was to be temporary. Surely he's entitled to his privacy?
Tsotsi 11/24/2008 10:25:44 AM
But can he dance?
jim 11/24/2008 10:28:52 AM
South Africa did not recently enaugurate a president, a select few ANC officials did. There was no public vote so how can you say that South Africa did it.South Africans don't currently choose their President. Don't you think we should? Not some "eletist group" who forget they are actually public servants.
angola badprop 11/24/2008 10:32:44 AM
"I believe he has a proven track record and strong administrative credentials".I believe that that shady deal he was involved in with the land bank's money worth 800 million rand proves that he has what it takes to rule the country.He and his corrupt cronies fits perfectly on the gravy train
Bambingwe 11/24/2008 10:32:57 AM
Strong administrative skills?? I'm not sure given the state of ANC branches pre and post Polokwane. I'm not sure given the poor quality that ANC came to be under his watch as ANC CEO (General Secretary) but to his credit this appauling state of affairs in ANC ensured an outcome that he wanted in Polokwane.
Nick 11/24/2008 10:36:21 AM
This guy is just a picture President. With no dancing skills!
Karen 11/24/2008 10:49:03 AM
You are right, we know very little about the man that is currently holding the position of president of our country. Apparently the ANC does not feel it is neccessary to tell the public anything, and their agenda of forcing Zuma into presidency in spite of the fact that nobody wants him there. Just superficially looking at Motlanthe next to Zuma - not contest. Motlanthe looks like an intelligent (dare I say it) almost trustworthy man, while Zuma on the other-hand...
Jabu Pule 11/24/2008 10:49:14 AM
Kgalema was ANC Secretary General (SG), but he was silenced under Mbeki because his friend Smuts Ngonyama took over the role of the SG. Sadly, you are a typical ignorant Cope supporter. You cannot dictate to the ANC who must be a President or not, infact you must be worried about Cope as they are currently fighting for positions. Go check Shilowa and Lekota's tertiary education, let me tell you they don't have any diploma or degree. Goodluck Cope supporters.
Ryan 11/24/2008 10:50:56 AM
I agree. I will not trust him until I see him busting out "the worm" ,or alternatively, moon dance across a stage.....
Zola 11/24/2008 10:56:34 AM
More as I am pro education, I think it is wrong to simply assume that positions like that of a President are meant for "Educated" people only. If one looks at the current noise around JZ, the issue comes down to education. People are not really looking at what the man can offer to the nation. Well done President, Mkhuluwa, keep this out of our ears. It is none of our business.
KulKat 11/24/2008 10:57:14 AM
what makes Kgalema such a sacred cow? why is nobody probing him and his biz? beware of the cute ones - they are the devious lot!
Zola 11/24/2008 11:00:29 AM
More as I am pro education, I think it is wrong to simply assume that positions like that of a President are meant for "Educated" people only. If one looks at the current noise around JZ, the issue comes down to education. People are not really looking at what the man can offer to the nation. Well done President, Mkhuluwa, keep this out of our ears. It is none of our business.
Blacklisted hardliner 11/24/2008 11:05:30 AM
Pitso, it is so sad that a black South African like you who stays in Midrand, is begining to judge our political leaders in terms of their educationa backgrounds.NO matter what you think, it is because of PAC, AZAPO, ANC, including Zuma, Motlanthe, Sobukwe that you stay in Midrand. Before, no matter how wealthy, you were no allowed to stay in Midrand.Black graduates were not allowed to earn more than whites.They paved your way, and now you question their educational background.You idiot.
Point Blank 11/24/2008 11:07:37 AM
Jacob Zuma has clearly indicated that our President elect is merely a seat warmer. Besides being disrespectful and a clear indication that JZ is rubbing his hands gleefully at the prospect of being the most powerful man in SA Mothlanthe won't be around long enough for us to be given an opportunity of learning about this man whom everyone agrees is a far better president looking president. But JZ wants the hot chair and he will make sure no one gets in his way next year.
Joburg Boykie 11/24/2008 11:08:18 AM
You have summed the useless ANC up in a nutshell! Well done! :)
Thabo 11/24/2008 11:08:23 AM
I at least do know that he is a good planner and can effectively execute his plans...Polokwane outcome is evident.
slabs 11/24/2008 11:09:15 AM
BRILLIANT!!!! YOU HAVE GOT IT MAN
kgauzen 11/24/2008 11:11:43 AM
I don't see your reasoning behind here.Cant we look at what Kgalema is offering us now than going deep.Are you suprised that the ANC offeres the nation someone who does not have scandals.What is you real motive here, you know the man trach record in terms of his leadership. I think that what is important in terms of ensuring that this country is in the capable hands.Relax young man
terence 11/24/2008 11:21:11 AM
pule it is no surprise they have no degrees they come from the anc aka another national crisis...Zuma is surely no leader that can lead the nation bcs he cant even lead his own party..oh by the way how embarrasing it must be for blacks to have a leader that only has std 3. at least lekota and shilowa have matric...
kgomotso 11/24/2008 11:22:09 AM
a detailed history of President Motlanthe was published in Financial Mail. If you are so interested in His accolade and background ask FM magazine to give you a print out of that article
Martin Godfrey 11/24/2008 11:26:47 AM
Pitso, your questions are valid, but do we really need to know? For my part, I wish he would remain on as Pres aftert next elections to allow JZ to sort out his legal wrangles and leave us with a Pres who has the ceredntials, decorum and statemanship and who has the countries interests at heart rather than his own!
phet 11/24/2008 11:27:26 AM
Chief i think your are going overboard.If the man keeps a low profile of his family then so be it.please respect the man, period!
slabs 11/24/2008 11:29:49 AM
What bothers me is how you guys constantly badmouth your brothers that support cope and then talk about how the ANC gave this country its freedom.So let them exercise that freedom and choose who they would like to support. Nothing lasts forever, not even appartheid, so dont remind these guys where they come from, they want to know where they are going.We all know the past, its the future that we are not sure of.
SimonP 11/24/2008 11:33:30 AM
His "staetsmanlike approach" has done what for Zim and has it changed Malema? He has allowed the ANC to continue to abuse its power. So basically hes done absolutely nothing. Oh but he did 10 years in prison. What will the ANC do for leaders when all the ex cons are gone? Malema?
Tiger 11/24/2008 11:34:20 AM
The reason we will never get the full background on him is because he will outshine the incoming Prez. The ANC doesn't want anyone iether than JZ to get MAX publicity, anyway the man is a SEAT-WARMER.
Cape Town Kid 11/24/2008 11:44:21 AM
The problem with our current bourgeousie is that they are advancing a line of thinking that is as anti-poor as we can get it.They ignore democracy.Look at the current Peruvian status,they shout from the roof-tops hoping Chavez is going to get a hiding.Most of govt who have a medium between socialist thinking r being beaten up by middle-class in media why becos they are promoting that which goes against capitalist short term gains and no long term relief for those who are poor.Mothlanthe is ANC.
Mzi 11/24/2008 11:46:03 AM
In seven months, Mr Motlanthe will go back to his rightful position of Deputy president of ANC. He has a lot to worry about than revealing who he is. I think the focus must be on Zuma, the only nightmare to every citizen of SA. All I know is that he is the only politician i trust in south africa. He made it clear that he wants to keep his family private and i respect him for that.
Zolile 11/24/2008 11:46:11 AM
His leadership is at fault in many points. First, ANC crumbled under his eyes. He failed to provide his boss at the time (Mbeki) with reliable information. Instead he proved himself to be a self serving individual. He misled Mbeki in so many ways. Second, he does not have a backbone in many issues. He listens to popular opinion and then make a noise. Why did he have to wait so long to reprimand Malema? Why has he not bodly tackled Mugabe as he promised? Why is he so lukewarm in many issues?
Abram 11/24/2008 11:47:25 AM
You brought in an important point. I as well need to know more of these stateman
sara 11/24/2008 11:48:50 AM
As a South African citizen I dont remember voting in Motlanthe as our stand in president???? Did i miss something? Ofcourse not, he was voted in by the ANClowns. I have no idea who is, but mind you he is just the statue while ZUMA is already running the country, I love our DEMOCRACY
Al 11/24/2008 11:53:57 AM
Go read Wikipedia and listed links. The president seems not to have post matric academic qualifications like one would perhaps expect. And to all the dumbasses who question the reason for asking the question why you wrote the article Pitso, you have not even BEGUN to understand what democracy is about and you are most probably also without any post matric qualifications. Still using the grapevine for information and personal enrichment.
Good Charlie 11/24/2008 11:56:52 AM
I couldn't agree more Pitso! We know very little about a man who is our leader. We definately need more backgroung info.
TK 11/24/2008 11:57:38 AM
I?m very proud of our leaders and VERY PROUD TO BE BLACK. I am where I am today because of their sacrifice. They sacrificed their education me and many other SA.
ChrisR 11/24/2008 11:58:17 AM
And if you know what then? Negative comments will be denied and if proved true later there will be no apology, because in the ANC stealing and lying are twin brothers.
GoodQuestions 11/24/2008 11:59:53 AM
Bad thing happen in Africa because its people do not see the need to question their leaders, no man should be a president if his life is a private affair...It is fair game to ask, why not, this is not a dictatorship, it is a democracy!Speak up lest you become the next Zim!
Filemon 11/24/2008 12:01:11 PM
does not want to inform us too much about Pres Mothlante. They even complained SABCircus gives too much coverage at the expense of Zoooma. Ha! They want to hide decency so that corruption can flourish at next election
Old, female, paleface 11/24/2008 12:05:52 PM
Scopa was told that the "deployed" person, masquerading as President, takes up too much TV time and looks too Presidential. Zuma needs more exposure of his dancing and singing expertise. So why bother about the "deployed's" background? The ANC RULES by decree - this country is no longer governed. There are only lapdogs left to administrate the finances aka Gravy Train.
sara 11/24/2008 12:10:01 PM
Chavez is president of Venezuela and NOT Peru, dumbass
Ish 11/24/2008 12:10:16 PM
Get a life dude, black people dont owe ANC anything. ANC must deliver and stop emotional blackmail stratergy!! Pitso, FYI ANC has asked SABC (another ANC alliance) to limit Motlanthe's publicity via broacasting in fear he may overshadow Msholozi!! hence little is known about hime, poor thing!!
AJ 11/24/2008 12:19:46 PM
He is someone who believes in the ANC! Immediately I know everything about him I need to know, and it aint' pretty.
Grace Kadzere 11/24/2008 12:23:32 PM
We do not ned much info on him because, firstly we did not vote for him. Secondly, he is doing a good job so far so we do not worry about his private life. Thirdly, the ANC will not let him be the president in the next term. Information that we need in its entirety are policies that the different parties have when it comes to the well being of this nation. Otherwise baba, go read a tabloid magazine, leave the man's affairs alone!
Devon 11/24/2008 12:30:42 PM
Pitso I believe you make valid points. A president does need proper education, whether he leads the country for a day or 8 years. His decisions shape our country and the various day-to-day happenings. I also believe it is necessary to know the man's background as it displays his character and possible leadership attributes. I would prefer President Motlanthe as our president over JZ any day of the week. thank you Kgomotso, I am looking for that article as I type this...
Glock 22c 11/24/2008 12:31:38 PM
To me matters where is he going ? Is he murely a puppet for the likes of Zuma ? I dont care what he does as long as he tacles the problems in SA , Starting with Crime , Crime can take this ship down !!
Mark T 11/24/2008 12:32:19 PM
We have to face the fact that the ANC will win the 2009 elctions. How I wish, however, that Motlanthe would remain as president. He seems level headed, cool under pressure and is without the fiery speeches. He is a dignified leader who does not look out of place with other world leaders. It is a pity that somebody of his calibre would have to step aside for JZ and his wild crowd next year.
Big Bad Bob 11/24/2008 12:33:46 PM
Firstly we don't actually elect the President. S/he is appointed by parliament (and before we get started on what goes on in "western democracies", the good citizens of Britain were not asked to vote for a new PM when Blair stood down). And secondly is it actually any of our business? Maybe he wants to keep his wife out of the limelight. "First Lady" is not an actual office after all.
bongani 11/24/2008 12:39:19 PM
That is correct young man !!
Elizabeth 11/24/2008 12:39:22 PM
Huh? Worried about COPE? Oh, like the ANC is worried. Sending in people to disrupt their meetings. And about education: Jacob Zuma only has Std. 3. "It does not matter whether he completed school or not". Actually, it does. It matters in most jobs, why not the most important one of all? And don't blame it on apartheid. There are many ways to obtain matric legally. Intec College is one way. If domestic workers (plus several of my colleagues) can do it, then surely the big shots can as well?
Sinudeity@Gmail.com 11/24/2008 12:41:24 PM
Would the people support an uneducated President.
mpho mpheroane 11/24/2008 12:49:21 PM
He lead by example he is not power hungry,he does not dance when people play him music that does not interst him.
Steph 11/24/2008 12:54:12 PM
Looks like you are the one who needs an education!
Johnny Cash 11/24/2008 12:57:25 PM
I think a president and in fact any minister should at least have a tertiary degree! Try to apply for the top position at any company in the world, and they won?t look at you unless you are CA or have a similar qualification. It?s only in politics (and mostly African politics) that you can get away with not being educated. But then again the people who vote for you are not, so there is no accountability.
mpho mpheroane 11/24/2008 12:58:41 PM
He lead by example he is not power hungry,he does not dance when people play him music that does not interst him.
Johnny C 11/24/2008 1:05:04 PM
Bra, you don?t need a degree to be a freedom fighter, just a gun. It takes a bit more to govern a country. Do you really want some dancing hooligan with Std 3 to look after your kids future, or would you want someone that can lead a nation with allot of potential to greatness? Politics is not a religion, you can change sides when you don?t get what you want!
Zola 11/24/2008 1:08:14 PM
The comments from evoked by this topic are interesting and some even undeserving of being here. 1. Pitso's educational level has nothing to do with the topic he raised. 2. The issue is whether we need to know the academic qualification of our leaders or not. I am of the view that we do not need to know. His family must be out of bounds to all of us. It is time that we analyse the policies of our gov, political parties (including the ANC). That will be the only solution for this country.
Seema 11/24/2008 1:16:13 PM
Does he have limited or no powers at all to amend or make critical decision , if he were to wake up tomorrow and decide on radical policy can he make such a call evn thoguh the rulling party doesnt agree?. Pitso you have the right to question Ntate Motlanthes background !- I dont think Ntate will have a huge problem , we got to dymistify politics - questioning doesnt mean i a not a card carrying member- Perhaps you need to take it further and write to the presidency .
Tsm 11/24/2008 1:21:01 PM
I think your right a bit of information about the current or temporary president will help instill confident in the cittizens of the country as well boast invester confident.
jeremy 11/24/2008 1:26:26 PM
Pitso, you raise some interesting points. I agree with you that Motlanthe is the ANC's best choice for the presidency - and I think that if the ANC wants to retain power, he should stay on. However, I too am concerned that we know very little about Motlanthe the man and what makes him tick. In this day and age, our president's life should be an open book and we should know about his education, background and family....because this knowledge informs our decision whether to vote for him or not.
Steph 11/24/2008 1:28:29 PM
I would be interested to know what your level of education is, if you dare to tell?
Noddy 11/24/2008 1:30:12 PM
"I believe he has a proven track record and strong administrative credentials based on his performance as the Secretary General of the ANC and the National Union of Mineworkers." Well that is the problem. You are wrong in your estimation. Many analysts believe that Motlanthe did not perform well in these posts, he also allowed ANC branches to fall into a semi-anarchic state. Mnny blame him for Mbeki's demise by allowing the Zuma crowd to infiltrate and gain acendancy at the branch level.
Tsm 11/24/2008 1:32:39 PM
I think your right a bit of information about the current or temporary president will help instill confident in the cittizens of the country as well boast invester confident.
nay 11/24/2008 1:39:11 PM
It is strange when questioned a answer of a background a feeble explanation is given.Why is so difficult just to answer a simple question?When you apply for a job they ask you for educational background and if you want the job you give a briefing of that.So really why is so difficult to get info.
nicks 11/24/2008 1:44:53 PM
with that stupid argument, it seems that you are not on par as well....
jeremy 11/24/2008 2:14:55 PM
Many correspondents have criticised Motlanthe's credentials. Fine. But then if Motlanthe isn't the man to lead SA and JZ has a corruption charge hanging over him, who IS the person to lead the ANC? I'd love to know if there's anyone in the ANC who has impeccable credentials, who isn't a yes-man and has leadership qualities, particularly now that Shilowa has left.
Purviss 11/24/2008 2:24:32 PM
Isn?t it sad that we know more about Barack Obama's education, health, family and background than about our own president?s? People who don't want their details made public, should not seek public office. It seems that everywhere you go, the ANC is hiding something.
Jabu Pule 11/24/2008 2:38:55 PM
Lekota wants to abolish the policies that addresses the empowerment of previously disadvantaged.
Big Bad Bob 11/24/2008 3:00:02 PM
There is a difference between hiding something and simply not being forthcoming. Especially when there is no legal requirement to volunteer this information.
Rainbow Nation 11/24/2008 4:17:22 PM
Only St.3??? Had he stayed he might have known right from wrong. This makes me worry - what will Zuma's policies on education be? Seems he does not deem it necessary. How do we convince our kids to stay in school when none of our leaders are educated? "Oh no mommy/daddy, I don't need school, I will get a GREAT job anyways - maybe even become president!". Education is the backbone of any great society! As for President Mothlanthe - sorry, but you cant expect a private live when ruling a country.
Point Blank 11/24/2008 4:52:36 PM
No Jabu once again you are wrong and been lied to by your ANC. Cope DO NOT WANT TO DO AWAY WITH AA, please for your own good read that again. Typical blinkered ANC supporter.

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