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HIV/Aids confusion to blame?

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2008-12-01 13:00

Thokozani Ncikazi, News24 User

It's very said that after so many years of Aids' existence, nothing solid has been done so far to effectively deal with the disease.

Over the years Aids has risen to extreme proportions in the world especially in Africa. South Africa is leading the continent by 5.5 million infected and rising every day.

Let's acknowledge the fact that in South Africa a lot has been done to face this disease head on, from campaigns to advertising, theatre to the movies, music to poetry but nothing is helping. People continue having unprotected sex like never before. This is probably because the messages being sent are inert and highly predictable - people already know what the message is going to say even before it's delivered.

There is a need for change of strategies; a lot of money is being invested in different campaigns such as Love Life, Soul City, Komanani etc, but the stories they tell are the same every time.

The 5.5 million estimate of people infected is just the tip of the iceberg. If you consider the fact that there are people living with the virus but do not know and the fact that as we speak thousands are being infected. Both government and the people of South Africa dream of one day having an Aids free generation but that dream is a distant one.

Influences

The influence on the younger generation from the latest gadgets is also detrimental; although gadgets can be educational, one cannot emphasise enough the damage they have caused, from cellphones to a television set in your child's room.

Children as young as nine years old start experimenting with sex based on what they see on television and read on cellphones. Ten years down the line that nine year old will probably be infected with HIV, destroying the government vision of an Aids free generation. Ten years from now numbers will have multiplied.

The issue of use of condoms has also been highly emphasised as the second alternative after abstinence. Judging from the latest statistics it seems condoms are not frequently used either. What happened a few months ago when defective condoms were found has left a lot of people confused about whether using a condom is ideal. Although the government justified the issue by recalling the affected consignment, the public is still not sure.

Previous conflicting views within the government itself did not help the situation; people on the ground are still very confused as to what to use to avoid infection for those not infected and what medicines to use for those infected. There is still a very few number of people on ARVs too as confusion rages as to whether infected people must take drugs at the early stages of infection or not.

All these factors contribute to high confusion on what actions the public should exercise to remain safe and unless the confusion is stopped, things will continue to get worse.

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Robert Ndungane 12/1/2008 1:07:08 PM
1. The SA government must learn from Uganda, and the strategies that Uganda employed. 2. A culture must be re-installed whereby sexual intercourse should be confined to marriage. Lust should not be confused with love.
Stanley 12/1/2008 1:09:22 PM
Having worked in the field of HIV/AIDS, it is clear that knowledge is scattered and people are left confused. Amongst teenagers the condom unsafe issue is often raised. High impact eduation must be provided at schools in all grades, building on the childs cognitive, moral, social,etc development.
Me 12/1/2008 1:10:12 PM
There is only 1 solution to the problem. Thus far, every1 has been telling you, use condoms and be safe...so people go and have as much sex as they wish. The solution is, have as much sex when you are married!!! Fullstop!!! Or else, face the consequences, your choice.
Juan 12/1/2008 1:11:13 PM
Our government is FULLY top blame, they have dropped the ball soo many times: poverty causes aids; garlic cures aids; showers cure aids; delaying arv treatment; anc PRESIDENT practising poligamy, etc.. The UN estimates that 300 000 people in SA alone has died because of govt. polecies alone, yet Manto is NOT executed or even rotting in jail. So as long as we have a pathetic government whose soul purpose is self-enrichment, things WILL get worse!
J.O 12/1/2008 1:12:02 PM
Neither were available when AIDS started or when the epidemic really got going. The government is as guilty as is the masses out there, who still believe whatever they want to believe despite scientific evidence, and then blame it on their "culture". Our rape statistics doesn't help the cause either.
Leon 12/1/2008 1:12:03 PM
My domestic worker told me that the attitude of people going to bed hungry is to infect themselves with aids in order to get the government grant given to aids victims. She recons the government is helping to spread the virus instead of stopping it.
Harris 12/1/2008 1:13:05 PM
Government failed dismally with their messages. Why don't they rather tell people to go back to the basic principles. No sex before marriage. The parents and guardians are also to blame here. Teach your child morals, and he/she won't fall a sex victim. I don't think I will say anything about Manto
Juan 12/1/2008 1:19:14 PM
People going to bed hungry?!! That simply cannot be true! How can people go to bed HUNGRY if theire government promised them 'A better life for all' like 14 years ago??
Big Bad Bob 12/1/2008 1:21:44 PM
The ways in which HIV is transmitted are documented and not hard to understand. There are simple measures that can be taken that are shown to substantially reduce the risk of infection. This is not rocket science, and if, in the face of this evidence, people are going to be reckless then there is nothing the government can do.
Pangea 12/1/2008 1:22:37 PM
I am still wondering if they going to charge old Monto for her bad management of the AIDS crises. To those who keep going on about sex within marriage, please get with it. Studies world wide have shown the the nuclear family (father mother and kids) is on the decline, single mothers, singles and staying together is the future. Remember as well you use no protection when married so if the wife or husband is having fun on the sideline (which most do) your next STD test might be a shock.
Amazed 12/1/2008 1:22:44 PM
The fact that the messages are not making much difference is very true I`m afraid. Your point that the messages are too predictable makes me chuckle however - I mean really whats so difficult to understand? Dont have unprotected sex or you may well die a horrible death. Now honestly I know there are Zuma and Mokaba types out there but surely even in Africa Unprotected sex = HIV aint such a difficult concept to grasp? Or is it?
Helen 12/1/2008 1:22:53 PM
A "health minister" who swore by garlic and african potato and a "leader" who had unprotected sex with a HIV positive person and thought it would be ok if he just took a shower! Our "leaders" have obviously never heard of the saying "Lead by example" and until they do, SA's AIDS stats will not improve!
Cynical 12/1/2008 1:27:06 PM
There is no confusion about AIDS, so I don't know what you are whingeing about. Our wonderful government - YOUR government, actually - has done its best to educate people on AIDS. They have made it clear that if you eat garlic, beetroot, and drink lemon juice then you ought to be just fine. For good measure, a shower after unprotected sex should also do the trick. If people started following this wise advice then our country should be AIDS free in no time......
chipper chap 12/1/2008 1:30:18 PM
Having lived with being "pos" (what a joke) and being convinced by misleading articles about the greatness of being tested and then revealing your status is the biggest bullshit out there. My personal experience is that you WILL be discriminated against, you will forfeit any chances of getting further job training or a promotion and that with the ailing economy and threats of retrenchments all over, your fears of being the first to go will rise tensions 10 fold. Thats if you dont get fired first.
IandI 12/1/2008 1:30:53 PM
For years Manto and her then boss, Mbeki confused the citizenry but coming out with nonsensical statements like:"A virus cannot cause a syndrome","I don't know anybody who died of Aids","ARVs are toxic poision,eat beetroot and African potato instead".They also associated themselves with Aids denialists anda as result over 300 00o people died.Now the govt has run out of condoms in 2 provinces and the poor/infected may have to use their state grants to buy condoms, or they could "take a shower".
gatsby 12/1/2008 1:32:23 PM
In the early days it might have been different but can there still be a single person in this country who does not know that unprotected sex is dangerous? Stop blaming and expecting the government to cure the problem. People need to look after themselves and take charge of their own health. Just how difficult can it be?
Robert 12/1/2008 1:38:28 PM
Most partners have fun on the sideline. Interesting, and what research supports this? Also, the break up the nuclear family is no excuse for engaging in sexual intercourse before marriage. Are there any studies that have explored the correlation between HIV/AIDS and sex outside or inside of marraige. Once you have perused these studies, you may change your conclusion.
KC 12/1/2008 1:39:50 PM
You attitude is what?s helping HIV/AIDS on. Can it be that because the nuclear family is no the decline HIV/AIDA is no the incline?
Anon 12/1/2008 1:40:30 PM
Is there to control population of the world , as people dont have the savvi to do it themselfs. There will be no cure found as simple as that.
Stryker 12/1/2008 1:41:14 PM
African Renaissance or rather the lack of anything resembling the African Renaissance is frankly due to the standard of leadership in the country and the fact that SA men regard woman as second class citizens. Your future president is at the forefront of woman abuse - (guilty or not) his victim was vilified by Zuma supporters in SA whilst the perp was worshipped - says a great deal about the kind of person who follows Zuma or indeed the ANC - Well all I can say is Please do Continue ;)
Tsotsi 12/1/2008 1:45:16 PM
Our president to be JZ has to say about this? A condom may be defective but a shower almost always work!
Dr.E 12/1/2008 1:45:19 PM
Just have a shower.
colin 12/1/2008 1:46:11 PM
Its all about Morals - we as a socity have lost it.
Karen 12/1/2008 1:48:19 PM
I know it sounds harsh but humans are over-populating the world and continue to breed at alarming rates. Nature keeps trying to cull the human race and our doctors just keep beating nature and keep humans alive way past their sell-by-date. Nature is trying to save the world from the destruction by humans.
Ginger 12/1/2008 1:49:39 PM
Our youth are not getting the right messages. The young men today are raping women regularly. Prostitution is rife due to poverty. We have a leader who "showers" for AIDS and Dr Beetroot was giving out the most unsound advice ever. Mbeki was into AIDS denial. So basically at grass roots level the messages did not get across in a clear and precise manner. My gardener told me that only starving people get AIDS. He thinks well fed people are immune. Where does that come from?
Nthatuwa 12/1/2008 1:57:32 PM
Why blame government for poor decisions that people have made?Blame it on the lack of morality of our people.Hell,would you agrre to government dictating how many children you should have?then why do expect government to combat HIV/AIDS alone.If there is anything that people can do to create change its to change their lifestyles.If I turn out to be positive,I wont blame govenmtent,I'll blame myself or whoever infected me,depending on circumstances!My responsibility will b not to infect others!
jozi 12/1/2008 1:57:55 PM
Thokozani the government is trying. Why dont you publish an article with a solid way forward rather than telling us their methods aren't working.
VG 12/1/2008 2:00:54 PM
sorry, Thokozani, but this habit that Safricans have of dumping everything at the govt's door is starting to annoy me.At what point do people take responsibility for their own actions? The messages are out ther loud and clear - for those who are willing to listen. But govt cannot spoonfeed adults -thats rubbish. and as for th ekids: where are the teachers/parents/guardians?
Nthatuwa 12/1/2008 2:05:28 PM
If we feel Manto and Mbeki dealt us a blow with regards to HIV/AIDS,if we know so much more about it than them,why is it that its us who fail to take preventative measures?Why is it us who fail to protect ourselves from being infected?If you go to tertiary and flunk,who are you going to blame?please people,get real.Stop shifting the blame.Blame older men who prey after our daughters,prostitutes and whoever that's promiscuous and not using protection,blame rapists,etc.Its us!!
AJ 12/1/2008 2:07:14 PM
Confused about AIDS? - seriously how difficult is it to understand the 1 or 2 things at most you can do to protect yourself. I've understood since my teens and that was 15 years or more ago. What's this current bunch's excuse?
Mark R. - happily, faithfully married, AIDS-free 12/1/2008 2:10:06 PM
I suggest YOU get with it. Your views (a declining nuclear family and most marriages being unfaithful ) are very telling... Just because older values are declining, does that make the new "values" right??? To use this as an excuse to sleep around unprotected, is plain STUPID. I agree with the others: keep sex for a monogamous, faithful relationship (whether you call it a marriage or not, I frankly don't care). Otherwise, don't come crying at my door if you pick up AIDS.
I'll push U in the shower then over the edge!!! 12/1/2008 2:11:57 PM
My friend died because of HIV and all i can say is that I blame the government for not making a GOOD ENOUGH effort to create proper awareness & not actually understanding what they are dealing with! We have a leader telling us that HIV doesn't cause AIDs, another saying that u need to shower after 1st contact & an ex Health Minister saying, eat beetroot, garlic and sleep to cure urself! WTF are these people on man!! The control of the antiviral drugs was pathetic....actually i could go on & on...
I'll push u in the shower, & feed u beetroot! 12/1/2008 2:13:13 PM
I guess the news that HIV won't be such a problem in 10 years time, makes them feel at ease that the problem will just kinda rectify itself.......watch and see people!
Zolile 12/1/2008 2:13:20 PM
Please provide me with proof that Mbeki "denied" AIDS? I have scoured the internet for that, to no avail. The Durban 2000 Conference speech where is alleged to have denied AIDS does not say much either. Instead he lamented the role of poverty in AIDS perpetuation. That is not denial, but a fact. If you have a speech, please can you make an indication, and I will gladly pay for that evidence pleae
Peter Maluleke 12/1/2008 2:18:53 PM
Did the couple of millionbucks play named Sarafina not help? Or was it another ANC blunder and money theft? As far as I am concerned that was the only positive thing the ANC did just because the whites critise it. Maybe the whites should fuel violence as that will challenge the ANC agenda pretty quickly. So predictable these ANC people.
Frank II 12/1/2008 2:19:14 PM
Mbeki should be tried in The Hague for the death of 330 000 AIDS victims. He rejected the scientific evidence, his minister of health withheld ARV treatment and they promoted lies about cures.
Lucky Ralawe 12/1/2008 2:19:36 PM
How is the government expected to get into private bedrooms or wherever the deed gets done to ensure that participants protect themselves? At the end of the day the government, no matter how inept, can do only so much. The rest is up to us.
pangea 12/1/2008 2:22:42 PM
Kc get in touch with reality. I am tied of you fanatics that have your head in the sand and refuse to acknowledge what is going on. Marriage is not the cure all for Aids!! knowledge is. Do a little bit of research into the population dynamics and the future way relationships are going.
Kale 12/1/2008 2:24:00 PM
Karen makes a brilliant point, nice to see someone else sees it the way I see it. Secondly government is a large portion of the blame. Instead of no sex it' give condoms to schools, children as young as 13 an have abortions. What message does that send. Subsidize HIV 'victims' who choose to have unprotected sex (not always the case but you have to sacrifice the few to save the many). But people are also to blame. We live in a world were morels exist in history books.
Mphatjie 12/1/2008 2:25:02 PM
Don't blame govt when you know what to do: Abstain, Be faithful or Condomise. Simple as that. We the people must take responsibility for our own sexual behaviour, instead of blaming govt for everything.
Pangea 12/1/2008 2:27:30 PM
Divorce rate is sitting close to 50% and the major reason is cheating on the spouse. I am not even mentioning the amount of playing around that goes on without it ending in a Divorce. Unfortunately sex drive is not turned on when you marry, if it was then we not have all the problems we have know. Stop trying to allocate your value system on to others, you can have a strong committed relationship with people outside marriage.
Mich01 12/1/2008 2:31:43 PM
I have heard that too from our domestic worker... people keep themselves sick or get sick to get the grant... What people would do for money is astonishing. The desperation of the people of this country is going unnoticed and it scares me.
Greg 12/1/2008 2:33:19 PM
...when beetroot and garlic cure aids? Or when sex with a baby is a cure? Or when condoms are stapled together? Oh wait, a shower after unprotected sex with an AIDS victim will wash the disease away? And all the above supplied 'intelligently' by Govt. by the brilliance of the ANC. And ppl still vote for them? WAKE UP SOUTH AFRICA!! For goodness sake, is death and poverty not enough to understand that the ANC are bad for our great nation??!!!
Just out of interest 12/1/2008 2:34:10 PM
I know this may be a silly question, but did you try to educate your domestic and garderner a bit after their comments? And did they understand what you were saying? If yes, Do you think they will share this with their family?
D.S 12/1/2008 2:38:41 PM
If people carry on having the morals that they currently do, people will continue to be culled out. It does not help asking us to do something about it , or to be possitive, it also does not help laying the blame at the governments door even although people in the government are just as guilty and maybe also to blame for the current situation. People need to learn the hard way, if you want to have no morality and want to behave in an unacceptable way, then pay the price of HIV = Aids
Les-Maada 12/1/2008 2:39:12 PM
your article was worth reading until it became spoiled by the likes of Juan & his anti-Gov crew!This lot only opted on criticizing & throwing in their daily drivel instead of injecting this very educational article with some positive solutions!Their negative contributions are a primary reason why SA is heading nowhere fast even when the Gov is trying so hard to solve issues like this one u've just adressed in ya article.Its quite a shame!
Lotus 12/1/2008 2:39:59 PM
It is up to parents to educate their children on morality and ethics, not govt or schools. That being said the govt must address the issue of the age of consent.And some of you commentators are pretty ignorant if you actually believe that married people are faithful and do not commit adultery and do not contract HIV/AIDS.
Karen 12/1/2008 2:40:04 PM
If you sleep around and doesn't take precautions the changes are 99% you will get HIV infected. People should start taking responsibility for their actions. It is not the taxpayers or Government's responsibility to stop HIV. (Maybe the Government CAN stop the child grants or only give grants for the 1st 2 kids!) And this is not a race thing! apparently the % students that is HIV infected in ALL universities is shocking.With freedom there comes responsibility!
Seema 12/1/2008 2:41:03 PM
I am an avid listener of various radios , read different publication and try to watch a bit of TV .We dont have any HIV programs and when we do they are just not enough . The government has a moral obligation to protect its people , Aids/hiv was used as part of their marketing campaign for votes so why do we need govern to stand around the corner. Senegal and Uganda -go and learn from them please .
Badger 12/1/2008 2:41:15 PM
Then you have "That Woman" telling the masses to eat Beetroot and Garlic, or some other "Idiot" telling them to take a shower !!! Why, then we have "other people" saying Rape a Virgin (who cares if she is 9 months old) to cure this incurable sickness. All your ad campaigns are are punted at the wrong people. All the educated (Blacks & Whites & Browns & Pinks) people know about Aids, it's the other people with no radio or TV that are spreading this Disease !!!!!!!
me 12/1/2008 2:47:21 PM
why is Hiv aids only linked with promiscuous people? yes it is true that sleeping around increases the risk of being infected but have you ever thought of the babies that are born with it nd actually live longer to reach 15years of age, are you gonna say that young man or lady was sleeping around? the media is only focusing on one thing which is sexual transmission, the media and government needs to educate parents first so that kids can learn and hear it from their parents.
William 12/1/2008 2:48:15 PM
..education and discipline. Get these right and a few things will fall into place...not fall off !! lol.
Pangea 12/1/2008 3:21:01 PM
Congratulations on being happily married. Unfortunately in South Africa especially in poor areas married women are abused, raped by their spouses, and exploited. The fact that they are married is not going to prevent them from getting AIDS, in South African society it is expected for women to be the lesser in the married relationship, until this changes I will always be sceptical of marriage in the RSA. I however never propogated hopping into a new bed every night as that is just crazy!!
yaya 12/1/2008 3:24:26 PM
Very few people in SA can say they don't know how AIDS is transmitted. When it 1st came out, yes - today, no excuse whatsoever. We must take responsibility for our actions. As long as we don't change our behaviour, we can forget about eliminating the disease. None of this has anything to do with government & everything to do with people who want to have it all & now. Parents take responsibility for the education of your kids in all aspects.
Juan 12/1/2008 3:26:36 PM
Look at my first post again: Goverment IS to blame! Look at EVERY SINGLE POINT I made. No other goverment ON THE PLANET ever prescribed garlic! - Argue facts, or you just perpetuate your ignorance and stupidity!
Nicole 12/1/2008 3:43:27 PM
I went to government schools (granted good ones, but still) and in the OBE syllabus (tought every where now) we were taught about AIDS in Life Orientation from standard 3 and up, the same stuff every year until matric I will never forget any of it. This is not a lack of education, people just don't care or are too lazy to be careful. So no you can't blame Manto/Zuma for the high rate of infection in teens because these kids know what they are doing believe me!
Kenroid 12/1/2008 3:46:49 PM
Marriage won't solve the Aids problem...trying to instill values to the youth of today is a HUGE undertaking! Children are becoming more and more free to do what they want...including experimenting with sex! At a school in KZN something like 18 girls in school got pregnant to they could have babies together...HUH?!? And its sad, not everyone is faithful in marriage!!!
VG 12/1/2008 3:57:25 PM
You blame the govt for your friend's death? If your friend was an adult, I'm afraid the buck stops with him/her. People love to use govt as an excuse for every failing in life, but people are selective about whih messages they want to hear. Every year at holiday time, the Minister of Transport has those ads that say "dont drink and drive". has anyone noticed a decline? didnt think so...
Now, what do you know? 12/1/2008 4:05:07 PM
People who live chaste, who control their sexual urges and who practice an honorable, sober lifestyle don't have to worry about getting AIDS through their own doing - somewhat simplistic, but the truth. It is about choice, that's all.
Spongebob 12/1/2008 4:27:58 PM
Don't blame govt for everything,everyone knows how one gets infected with hiv,that's just logic. Even rural communities know that, take responsibilty and use a condom. It's that easy, no condom (means you inviting hiv/aids)by yourself
Ginger 12/1/2008 5:06:31 PM
absolutely I even printed stuff off the internet for him to take home and read.
Ginger 12/1/2008 5:09:03 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/12/01/safrica.aids/index.html There are many more stories like this available but that is just one and it's todays news.
Sympathetic 12/1/2008 6:51:02 PM
Ex Pres Nelson Mandela stated that every family in SA will be affected by HIV/AIDS. He was so right, one of my closest friends was infected by an unfaithful spouse. So before all of you JUDGE and call HIV infected people immoral - you might have a family member or friend who has it- and you are promoting an unfair stigma against some of them. Don't stereotype about everyone please. A person who contracted HIV needs to feel guilt over a bad choice for life, they dont need you pointing fingers too!
Trevette 12/1/2008 7:36:40 PM
What is there to understand? This is the country with the highest number of HIV/AIDS cases in the world. Stop sleeping around or start using condoms. If people are to ignorant to understand that they will get HIV/AIDS and die. I think as part of sex education at school, the kids should be taken to a state hospital and given a tour of the AIDS ward to see what AIDS actually does to a human being.
YVos 12/1/2008 9:43:56 PM
Again it all boils down to balance. If you want the right to have intercourse, you are responsible for your own actions. Respect first of all your own body. But, our self-centered, selfish and selfrightous attitude that has developed over the last 30 years is now maturing and is showing in every area of our daily life.

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