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My vision for South Africa...

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2008-12-02 13:07

Mphatjie Monareng, News24 User

Dear Jacob Zuma,

The ANC, of which you are president, has called on South Africans to submit their visions for a better South Africa. Without any waste of time, I submit below a list of my wishes for your consideration:

  • First of all, I would like to plead with you to please step aside from the presidential race to allow your deputy in the ANC, Kgalema Motlanthe, to run for president of the republic. As you'd know, you face serious allegations of corruption, money laundering and racketeering. You are too questionable a character to lead the country as head of state.

    Yesterday, on December 01, South Africa joined the world in celebrating World Aids Day. You'd also know that the theme of this year's event was "leadership". You have personally failed to provide leadership in the fight against HIV and Aids. I do not need to remind you why I am saying this. We need a president we can look up to for guidance and inspiration, and these are the qualities you do not posses.

  • My second concern relates to the people you surround yourself with. Your cronies, such as Blade Nzimande of the SACP, Zwelinzima Vavi of Cosatu and Julius Malema of the ANC Youth League, have repeatedly placed demagoguery above honest political campaigning (with your approval, of course).

    The ANC National Executive Committee, over which you preside as president of the ruling party, is comprised of certain shoddy figures. Certain senior executive members of the ANC you lead have criminal records! And these are the people you think can lead in a country with one of the highest crime rates in the world?

  • My third worry relates to your failure to competently manage the ANC and all its contradictions since your election eleven months ago in Polokwane. The ANC under you leadership lacks coherence and is now characterised by absurdity. You are obviously incompetent and, therefore, not a fit and proper person to occupy the position of head of state. I know you like boasting about ANC policies, but policies do not implement themselves. Policies must be implemented by competent professionals, with credible politicians providing political oversight and leadership.

    Overall, my vision for a better South Africa is that we should be led by credible politicians with proven track records of achievement in the areas that are of greatest concern to the nation: crime, poverty, unemployment and chronic diseases. I wish we had politicians who are in politics to serve the country and not to attain their own personal aspirations through public office.

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    Chris G 12/2/2008 1:11:36 PM
    Too bad nobody will ever listen.
    Robert Ndungane 12/2/2008 1:16:51 PM
    What you say is a valid view. However, feel free to be labelled a racist from certain inappropriate users of this forum. As for your comments, i ask with tears in my eyes why in Europe if a politician is accused of corruptio he/she steps down untill cleared (or convicted), whereas in SA politicians have no such respect for the law?!
    konstabel 12/2/2008 1:17:50 PM
    Amen.
    michael j 12/2/2008 1:20:12 PM
    Say no more. Kudos Mphatjie.
    nthatuwa 12/2/2008 1:20:29 PM
    What a bold letter(everyone keep in mind that this isn't an article,it's a letter.Before you mention how boring an article it is)I say however,it is honest and to the point.Thruth need to be told and truth needs to be accepted.What an amzing individual Zuma would turn out to be if he read this letter,considered it and did what a concerned South African would do.Step aside & let someone else do the job,for the sake of our country,ourselves,our children.Please Mr Zuma,step down,we beg you!!!
    Dave 12/2/2008 1:21:03 PM
    Do you think he is doing this for his people? Zumalukka is power hungry, greedy, can you imagine him as head of state?? He has done nothing but cause this country a bad name with all his allegations. Reading some of these articles looks like his supporters come from the same clothe? Bit dilly if you ask me
    Cathy Joubert 12/2/2008 1:21:20 PM
    I wholeheartedly agree with Mphatjie. I am a white South African woman and I really do not care who governs this country if they do it with integrity, discipline, without corruption, without discrimination, with transparency and with sound principles, morals and values and to be an example to the people. Jacob Zuma does not fit that picture. Cathy Joubert.
    Dave 12/2/2008 1:21:36 PM
    Do you think he is doing this for his people? Zumalukka is power hungry, greedy, can you imagine him as head of state?? He has done nothing but cause this country a bad name with all his allegations. Reading some of these articles looks like his supporters come from the same clothe? Bit dilly if you ask me
    zee 12/2/2008 1:22:25 PM
    You are spot on with your remarks and motivation.The ANC can be sure of a landslide victory if they can ask comerade JZ to do the honorable thing and step aside.If they continue with JZ.Blade,Vavi and the other clown the carpenter Malema it will be the end of a wondeful movement that will go down in history as a liberation movement only for people in the rural areas.
    fifi 12/2/2008 1:22:48 PM
    There you go ANC!! You have asked for it. We all know that as always, you are taking South africans for a ride. Who will ever imagine that group of not so brain gifted ever listening to fellow citizens. A call for submission is just a gimmick, luring South Africans to a deadly trap. The fat cats already have something in mind, something to benefit you know who..My suggestion is for Zuma and his ANC to bring back the scorpions. Eish, on second thought, why bother suggesting. Anc is mad!
    cuba 12/2/2008 1:24:54 PM
    just a few simple requests, and all of them are valid. and for your honesty, a few of our 'happier' friends will be labeling you a coconut. but i agree 100% with you
    nthatuwa 12/2/2008 1:26:50 PM
    Mr Zuma,I am ashamed to be living in the same country as you.You're an embarrasment to the Leaders of the ANC who fought for our freedom.For someone your age,shoudn't you be endowed with wisdom to know better.What exaclty do you think you're doing?I shiver with disgust at your sight and listening to you is such torture.(Not to mention your singing)Y dnt u tyk KZN,myk it a country & b president there.wat do u think,huh,briliant,aren't I?LOL
    Shilos 12/2/2008 1:28:15 PM
    Indeed Motlanthe is far better candidate to run the country compared to JZ, Shilos From Midrand
    Clinton 12/2/2008 1:28:25 PM
    Mphatjie Monareng i really wish everyone else could see the same picture been describe here , u could not have SAID it any better...So so treu and please help us all if Zuma becomes president cos this country will only be ashes after his 4th term..Lets all prevent regretts before it will be to late.....Zuma will never ever be fit to run South Africa , lets rather give him a community to run for 4 years and take it from there (probation)
    eddie 12/2/2008 1:28:53 PM
    I wish Zuma ( and all African leaders) had any semblance of honesty and dignity! In other continents, any sign/ accusation of improprietory results in the accused/alleged perpetrator resigning from public office as a matter of principle! But not in Africa. It is a traversty of JUSTICE that African leaders consistently and constantly remind the world that they ALONE can solve the problems of Africa as if there is some patent over Africa nad its people by these demagogues.Zimbabwe burns!!!! Sudan!
    Dave 12/2/2008 1:31:12 PM
    Do you think he is doing this for his people? Zumalukka is power hungry, greedy, can you imagine him as head of state?? He has done nothing but cause this country a bad name with all his allegations. Reading some of these articles looks like his supporters come from the same clothe? Bit dilly if you ask me
    Em 12/2/2008 1:32:19 PM
    You know I dont hate the ANC or its leaders but would genuinely prefer a government of competent leaders and the question of colour - well who cares as long as the job gets done - I sure dont. Its just so amazingly sad that Apartheid has so skewed our Black SAcans view of the world that all that is white is bad and all that is black is good. Racism was the reason we got into this mess, dont base your decisions on the colour of a persons skin. Its stupid and belongs with Kort Broek and Co.
    mochacho 12/2/2008 1:32:47 PM
    R u trying to get Kgalema killed?if u think JZ will consider ur letter.u must be sick..u need JZ out vote for another party
    JoburgBoykie 12/2/2008 1:34:00 PM
    Great letter, but his will never happen, I am afraid. My solution? VOTE DA or even COPE (if you so prefer) in 2009!
    mimi 12/2/2008 1:37:17 PM
    please step aside Zuma to save the country
    Wingnut 12/2/2008 1:37:19 PM
    Well said Mphatjie! We need politicians that are beyond reproach - we need statesmen, not populists! I am fully supportive of the notion to let President Kgalema Motlanthe remain as the president of the country. It would seem that he is a man of stature and integrity. As for the rest of the crime syndicate in the NEC - they are the reason why I shall be voting for another party.
    makondo 12/2/2008 1:37:26 PM
    please zuma step aside finish school mature a little then come and play with the big boys but until then put aside your childish revengeful attitude and just step out of politics until our country has Stabilized. You are corrupt and we all know you are a rapist and really have some dignity and find your morales and stop this freak show of yours now it is getting out of hand. you are a rich man why do you want to be president, something tells me you are just like robert mugabe with your evil smile
    Jay D 12/2/2008 1:38:06 PM
    Please don't wish that on us KZN people!! I'll have to move to Zilleland if it happens. haha. Give Zuma Lesotho rather.
    Jabu Pule 12/2/2008 1:38:52 PM
    You are not even ANC supporter, go tell Lekota to refrain from say "the blood will be spilled in defence of democracy". We cannot allow outsiders like you to change our ANC procedures, you cannot tell us to abondoned our alliance partners. You have Phillip Dexter and Security (Shilowa) as Communists, you have Willie Madisha a Unionist. Shut up and go to work. Stick to your COPE, ignorant somebody... poor soul.
    Thami 12/2/2008 1:39:19 PM
    Mphatjie Monareng, we had our own vision for South Africa in Polokwane. We said the president of the ANC should be the president of the country, that if ANC wins elections. You just need to swell your party's ranks e.g. COPE, DA, UDM. IFP etc. and make sure you win elections rather than share your DRUNK visions with us. ARRIVE ALIVE
    fifi 12/2/2008 1:39:59 PM
    I am trying to imagine ANC NEC meetings in full swing. I wonder what those guys discuss in their meetings because what ever they try to come up with, it becomes very close to the brown thing. Is it due due malema occupying a big chunk of their discussion. It looks like Malema is a permanet agenda point for their meetings. Haha ha!
    Cape Town Kid 12/2/2008 1:40:01 PM
    (1) Please do not insult our elders. (2) Please think before you utter untruths (3) Please respect democratic practises. (4) Please respect those you do not agree with (5) Please do not become an ANC member (6) Please respect the constitution! Matla, Amandla!
    Sinudeity@Gmail.com 12/2/2008 1:42:23 PM
    'Nuff said.
    Kensani 12/2/2008 1:43:07 PM
    that should JZ become president he will probably go down in history as the worst president South africa has ever had and he will be the sole answer to the downfall of a once great and powerful nation. I think that because south africa is much larger than zimbabwe our problems are going to be much worse than zimbabwe...Just KZN alone will be like zimbabwe can you imagine the whole country being like zimbabwe with the exception of the western cape wich will never be in the anc's hands
    BOB 12/2/2008 1:43:09 PM
    WELL DONE ON YOUR ARTICLE, IT IS A GREAT ARTICLE. THE PROBLEM IS THE ANC AND ESPECIALLY ZUMA AND ZUMAMITES DONT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING ANYONE HAS TO SAY...YOU WILL BE LABELED A COCONUT SIR!! WELL DONE TELL THIS MORON OF A HUMAN THAT HE IS A SHALLOW HORRIBLE CORRUPT INDIVIDUAL, WHO IS FOLLOWED AND SUPPORTED BY INCOMPETENT NEC FOOLS FULL OF CRIMINALS (WINNIE IS A CONVICTED MURDERER)AND NEED I SAY MINI ME MALEMA AND CO
    Stryker 12/2/2008 1:47:11 PM
    Who the hell do you think you are telling the author what he can and cannot do? As far as I remember this is a free country (no thanks to twits like you)- ever heard of freedom of speech - If the rest of us have to put up with Jacob Zumas drivel and malemas idiotic rantings then I`ll be damned if you have the right to tell anyone to shut up. Stick that where the sun dont shine sunshine.
    Anthony Paul 12/2/2008 1:47:49 PM
    Well written letter, and I think it is because Mphatjie Monareng wrote it himself. He has said what he really feels. BUT, in the case of JZ and his cronies whatever they say has been written by "Proffesional" advisors. Their adivisors are dumb because of what they write, but JZ and crew are even "dumber" to regurgitate the nonsense given to them. Oh and by the way, Bra Malema is Self Advised. He he.
    trevor 12/2/2008 1:53:01 PM
    Not JZ for president his character doesn?t represent the leadership SA is looking for, also I did know that former IFP Blade Nzimande together with his group and Cosatu they are economist as they need Trevor Manuel out so will do as they pleased as long as JZ is a president. NO JZ SA will going to hell if you became the president please step down for next year election for Motlanthe,, Trevor
    Big Bad Bob 12/2/2008 1:53:37 PM
    The message of Mbeki's downfall is that it is the party that sets the agenda, not the President. If by chance the DA were to be voted in today, Helen Zille would not step up as President, but do you think that she would not enforce DA policy? It is the party that matters, the President is subservient to the party.
    Lebo 12/2/2008 1:55:05 PM
    Mphatjie, you are dead right, spot on. This man called Zuma (including his employers/ advisers- Nzimande, Vavi, Malema) are no good for leading South Africa. Have you heard about their economic policy, unfair attack on Vodacom/ Vodafone and Telkom. These guys should take them on and sue them for unfounded criticism which is creating uncertainity in the SA economy. As for law and order, how can we achieve this, when these same leaders are not even living the values-political solution to crime.
    Londoner 12/2/2008 1:55:11 PM
    @ Jabu Pule Once again you come on this form vomiting nonsense. It is ignorant, uneducated, pathetic misinformed bigots like yourself that not only embarrass themselves, but embarrass our entire country by spewing incomprehensible spit, and who vote in a bunch of incompetent halfwits to rule our beautiful land. It is the likes of you that keep me from returning to SA. It is the likes of you that makes me feel embarrassed to be called South African.
    Dave 12/2/2008 1:55:46 PM
    (7)your elders insult themselves (8) please think before posting an article (9) Your party does not respect the democratic practises (10) Respect is mutual (11) Who would want to become an ANC member, be real (12) what constitution? Everyone has their say, think before you write sunshine
    Big Bad Bob 12/2/2008 1:57:25 PM
    Sorry, but Winnie is not a convicted murderer. Not in any court of law. If we are so concerned about the character of our leaders we should do more thorough investigation of their backgrounds. Besides, Winnie is not a force in the ANC anymore. PS Jacob Zuma is not a convicted rapist or guilty of embezzlement. Them's the facts.
    Tsotsi 12/2/2008 1:58:14 PM
    Had a big hit with the song "Puppet on a string" a few years back!
    Azonic 12/2/2008 1:59:00 PM
    In a perfect, logical world, for sure. Alas brother, Zuma is seen as the 2nd coming of Christ (that would be the adulterating, corrupt one), and his followers just LURV him, even more than Cheekin Leekin. He will be Mr. Prez, come hell or high water, heck, come even Jesus (apparently). Viva COPE!
    Mark V 12/2/2008 1:59:32 PM
    Please campain amongst your fellow supporters to do the same towards other parties and members of the public.
    Sinudeity@Gmail.com 12/2/2008 2:00:59 PM
    If you support ANC, but dont dig Zuma, then you must be a COPE supporter. If you dont dig Zuma otherwise, you are white. So basically, only if you approve of the scumbag, does that make you an ANC supporter (Because the party is bigger than the individual). And I guess thats why Zuma calls himself Jesus.
    Steven 12/2/2008 2:02:01 PM
    that a man of Zuma's questionable ethics will of his own free will let go of the position of president?
    Rg 12/2/2008 2:02:51 PM
    If Zuma, Vavi & Blade requested to join COPE, would COPE accept them as members? This is not a non-sense question...What are the qualifying criteria to join COPE?...and how many current members DO fit the bill? Bottomline is that we do not have sufficiently qualified people in politics to lead this country. I don't trust COPE's motives...
    Love Africa 12/2/2008 2:03:50 PM
    Health care Education Job creation Housing the poor creating a better South Africa for all. They have failed in all the above and this isn't because of the past this because of the current politicians that lack accountability.
    B123 12/2/2008 2:04:46 PM
    You have to becareful. The ANC will doop everyone into thinking that Kgalema Motlanthe will run for president and when they win they will put JZ as president. Best way is to vote the fukkers out totally.
    Steph 12/2/2008 2:05:13 PM
    Can you honestly defend that man? If you can say one good thing about him, I would love to see your comment.
    Jayzee 12/2/2008 2:05:22 PM
    Frankly, you letter is very stupid and has no merit. First of all the ANC is a party subscribing to the constitution (innocent until proven guilty) of the country and it also has its own internal process (nominations and voting). So, you actually have no right to put such a request. Zuma was voted to this position by ANC members who have the authority to vote for a leadership. The people of this country will decide who should lead them.
    Jabu Pule 12/2/2008 2:05:47 PM
    How can you say Zuma is incompetent when there is so much democracy and political engagement in the party? How can you say Zuma is incompetent when CNN/BBC/English & USA government have praised us for the new HIV/AIDS strategy? How can you say Zuma is not incompetent when people of Khutsong are free from dictatorship? How can you say Zuma is incompetent when NPA is now indepenent...... Mr AUTHOR IDIOT.
    The Truth 12/2/2008 2:06:52 PM
    It's simple Robert.They are 1st world (we are 5th world) and have been practising democracy PROPER for a helluva lot longer than we have.
    Steph 12/2/2008 2:07:48 PM
    (1) PLEASE PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH!!!
    vm 12/2/2008 2:08:44 PM
    I must admit I have supported the ANC for the past decade or so. But the the truths uttered in your letter are hard to dispute. Jacob Zuma must listen to the peopl and step aside. There is no way I am going to make him my president. I would rather not cast my vote.
    Tracer 12/2/2008 2:11:04 PM
    You give me hope, I wish all people in this country saw things as clearly as you do.
    The Truth 12/2/2008 2:11:09 PM
    I agree that he should stay on as president (the other one should rot in prison).At least Kgalema has never been compared to Jesus by his supporters and nor does he think he is some kind of messiah as Zuma sees himself to be.He has also never been charged with rape and corruption so its not difficult for a reasonable person to see who is the better person,but then again many ANC supporters aren't reasonable,are they?
    Nic the Greek 12/2/2008 2:11:32 PM
    I need to digress: 1)Please explain where in the above letter does one find an insult? 2)There are no "untruths" in the above letter. JZ does face serious corruption charges and has a dubious history when it comes to HIV AIDS and comments about showers. No amount of apologising is going to change the fact that the damage is done. 3&4&5&6) Please YOU respect the democratic process, anybody may join the ANC. Or has it become an elitist organisation where only the leaders cronies get taken care of?
    KittiKatt 12/2/2008 2:13:08 PM
    Stupid Comments like yours are the reason the MAJORITY of those who supported the vision of Nelson Rholihlahla Mandela of a Better and More Prosperous Life for All would rather Not Vote or worse Vote for ANY of the Opposition. All you seem to be able to do is to pull the PLUG on a Brain Dead ANC (only after Polokwane). BLIND LOYALISTS trying to protray themselves as DIE-HARD ZUMAMITES, your stupid rhetoric borders closely to comments we have become accustomed to from the likes of Carpenter Malema
    Tracer 12/2/2008 2:13:40 PM
    you're an embarrasment. Hahahaha. You can't be for real, nobody, not even JZ could be so stupid??? As for respect, its earned, JZ has EARNED disrespect, just like you. PS, thanks for buying a dictionary.
    S4 12/2/2008 2:15:11 PM
    Great letter! For most intelligent people it would be hard to disagree with the points you make. Of course those (not neccesarily intelligent) who do, have to resort to insults and name-calling, since they have no valid arguments.To top it all, they have the nerve to tell you to 'respect those you do not agree with'!!!
    Zolile 12/2/2008 2:16:14 PM
    Zuma, Kgalema, let me say the majority of ANC leaders at present do not fit into the presidential suite. Kgalema is a devious character. Ask Mbeki for that. I for one think we need to cast the net wider and look beyond colour for a presidential candidate. C'mon, Trevor, Helen, Maria Ramos, Saki, etc could do better than Kgalema. Besides, they are not man pleasers.
    Kingzile 12/2/2008 2:17:22 PM
    I see your vision my friend, except that it clarifies nothing, it untangles nothing. One question, what policy difference does Motlanthe who serves in the ANC NEC bring that JZ will not bring. What makes Khalema better, you have said basically nothing, well except to join the media tirade against JZ
    Clinton 12/2/2008 2:17:59 PM
    This guy does not have any idea what it takes to run such a mssive country , how can you engage in talks with the FBI when he was mainly involve in the disbandoning of the Scorpions , very much ill mature ......Please Zuma im begging you stop your SHIT cos you will really mess up what the white people have left to us a TOP CLASS COUNTRY which is becoming more and more like one of the average African Countries..
    J.O 12/2/2008 2:18:33 PM
    More and more I see the people are beginning to ask questions about the politicians and leaders, and are starting to hold them accountable. This can only be a good thing. Cape Town kid, questioning a "leader" is not the same thing as disrespecting them...even when the "leader" doesn't earn respect in the first place. But a question to you Mr. Cape Town kid: do you respect Helen Zille?
    Sven Gohre 12/2/2008 2:18:40 PM
    The problem in South Africa, as I see it, is that there are no credible politicians. The sad fact remains that the ANC, when they unexpectedly came to power, transformed the organs of state,they removed all the whites and replaced them with comrades returning from exile. The members of the UDF, were made to step down and only those that had been exiled were allowed to assume positions of power. When we have a government that cares for all the people of SA, only then will we prosper as a Nation.
    Welile 12/2/2008 2:19:08 PM
    Proved it by getting his hands very dirty with all sorts of rubbish. No need to step aside, he is already down & out. We need a person who observe Christian, moral and good values to be our president, not someone who does not care what they are doing.
    Phillip Musekwa 12/2/2008 2:20:02 PM
    It seems self evident that you guys just hate the ANC President or you simply got brainwashed by the media's propaganda against the ANC President. The article is nothing but unqualified and opportunistic attack on the ANC President, abusing the good democratic gesture that the ANC is extending to the members of the public to give views outside the normal structures of the ANC as an organisation. You're unbelievably unashamed clowns masquerading as analysts!
    Len van Heerden 12/2/2008 2:21:40 PM
    Often enjoy your postings, but have a problem with your response. what untruths did Mr Monareng talk about? Surely, Mr Monareng has the DEMOCRATIC right to express his concerns. How has Mr Monareng insulted our elders? How has he not respected the constitution? Our constitution clearly gives Mr Monareng a right to question the politics which govern our country
    Francois 12/2/2008 2:22:28 PM
    To the auther... EXCELLENT LETTER... Hopefully the monster will read it or at least get malema to read it for him which may take a good day or so? As for Mr. Jabu Pule. Perd go jump of a cliff or seomthing. Jy's nogal lekker dof eh?
    Sven Gohre 12/2/2008 2:22:47 PM
    The problem in South Africa, as I see it, is that there are no credible politicians. The sad fact remains that the ANC, when they unexpectedly came to power, transformed the organs of state,they removed all the whites and replaced them with comrades returning from exile. The members of the UDF, were made to step down and only those that had been exiled were allowed to assume positions of power. When we have a government that cares for all the people of SA, only then will we prosper as a Nation.
    bonjo 12/2/2008 2:23:16 PM
    Listen and listen good, Zuma has been hassled for the past 7 years by Cope defectors with the help of the scorpions. Zuma did a brave thing by challenging Mbeki for ANC presidency something Motlante was not willing to do. The ANC resolved that its president will be president of SA to avoid two centres of power, if you want Motlante to be president tell him to challenge for the ANC presidency in 2012 finish and klaar and leave my president alone, Viva Zuma, Viva ANC, down with Cope and DA down....
    Joe333 12/2/2008 2:23:46 PM
    Please Mr. President, stop dancing! Not only are you a bad dancer but parliament is supposed to be a dignified place where serious matters that influence the lives of South Africans are discussed, and not a discothèque or shebeen in Polakwane. This goes for the whole bunch including the morons from COSATU and that anal communist. Do you expect anyone, including investors and politicians from other countries, to take you seriously when you and your ridiculous cronies dance like a one-legged baboons in parliament?
    Philani 12/2/2008 2:24:08 PM
    You people never cease to surprise us. Zuma was elected democraticaly, now when democracy is evolving in our country then you want to change it to suit your own agendas. I dare you write to Lekota and Shilowa about what they did for people Khutsong. I dare you ask them to go apologise to those people for promising to send soldiers to kill them, but you will neve do that. Stop your hatred of Zuma.
    Foxie 12/2/2008 2:24:35 PM
    Amen. YOU should run for president.
    Stryker 12/2/2008 2:25:56 PM
    Jabu you tell the writer to shut up, berate him for his opinions? Ever heard of freedom of speech, if you represent mainstream ANC thinking, then its not surprising there is a mass exodus away from you. Perhaps you would feel more comfortable in a country where the media is banned and the cops beat the living daylights out of you if you dare say anything against the ruling party aka National Party some 20 years ago and Zanu PF some 20 seconds ago.
    bhunu 12/2/2008 2:26:28 PM
    Very frank and borders on being bitter, could have been a bit tactful. Your hatred for JZ and perhaps the ANC hinders you from being objective. Needles to say, you have won yourself lots of admirers in this forum but I doubt if your message has any credible ideas to take the country forward. By he way the rot in the ANC started during Mbeki's time, Zuma, Motlanthe & Lekota were all in the executive and shld all be blamed, especially Motlanthe cos he was the heartbeat of the ANC i.e. Gen.Sec.
    Nick 12/2/2008 2:26:52 PM
    Mr Monareng has hit the nail on the head here. That would be the sensible thing to do for JZ. Walk away from the fire he has created, and he wont get burnt. Stay and fight, he will be laughing stock of the world,like uncle BOB. The ANC is just another ZANU-PF. Please do not try to intimidate people from chosing Democracy over your communist ways. Viva Democracy Viva
    MasterMind 12/2/2008 2:27:41 PM
    The whole ANC follower base should read "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" then they will really see why their leaders get richer at their expense - poop, stupid blind sheep who follow their 1 eyed king !!!
    Oracle 12/2/2008 2:27:42 PM
    It really is quite astounding that three equally incoherent and completely contradictory responses should follow one another in the discourse of this article. Are the three of you "intemalectuals" holed up in a festering office at Luthuli House with nothing better to da than spout the usual ANC garbage? Poor dears, it must really suck being so brainwashed, though that is a misnomer given the obvious lack of brains on display!!! HAHAHAHA
    seema 12/2/2008 2:27:52 PM
    We need to dymistify politics - i think the author gave his reasons , if we dont agree we got to articulate our reasoning very well . The problem is not having different opinions but its how we communicate them . My vision for African as the young adult it for politicians to succeed beyond liberation.
    Ed 12/2/2008 2:28:20 PM
    What about respecting the law. Half of the NEC are convicted criminals, but that doesn't seem to bother you? If you call the ANC a democratic movement you need to have your head checked out...
    CTheB 12/2/2008 2:31:06 PM
    It's good to see the consistency of ANC supporters when it comes to anyone who disagrees with them - don't bother about the actual arguments made, simply employ argumentum ad hominem and hope no one notices.
    Jerome fistos 12/2/2008 2:31:22 PM
    So, you think can simply choose a country?s president by writing a stupid article. I think the ANC has done pretty well considering that we have to deal with lunatics, racist, criminals, idiots, and other monkeys who are protected by our constitution. Otherwise people like you would not have survived if SA was Zimbabwe.
    Francois 12/2/2008 2:31:22 PM
    I dont hate zuma? I dont know zuma? I DO HOWEVER HATE what ZUMA AND THE ANC DOES to South Africa? Hope it computes?
    Gesundheit 12/2/2008 2:31:28 PM
    You've hit the nail on the showerhead, so to speak.
    Spyti K 12/2/2008 2:31:32 PM
    The author merely expressed fact, therefore he/she cannot be untruthful or disresepctful. What is undemocratic about asking him to step down? Respect for those you do not agree with swings both ways, so practise what you preach. I hope he/she does not join the ANC because that would be a bad waste of a good brain and expressing his/her opinion is in no way contrary to the constitution it is in fact honoring it.
    Monwabisi 12/2/2008 2:33:03 PM
    The NEC of the ANC was democratical elected by the deligates representing the entire membership of the ANC, they did not impose themselves on those position. A discipline Cadre of the ANC do not refuse when given a task by the ANC. Comrade Zuma has sacrifice a lot for this country, he carried the spear from the days of total onslaught and never droped it or sell out. So this campaign spearheaded by the enemy in a ship skin is not going to destroy ANC nor its leaders. LONG LIVE ANC
    TK 12/2/2008 2:34:01 PM
    JZ is representing millions of SA cintizens that are poor because of the legacy of apartheid. It took the apartheid government 300+ years to build this legacy, is going to the the ANC 300 years to fix this. ANC for government and JZ for President full stop....
    Filemon 12/2/2008 2:34:57 PM
    but the backward excuse for a party do not even have an email on their website. But now I am glad so that the ANCircus is not warned how they can get more votes by dropping Zoooma (although Mothlanthe is also a bit skelm).
    Angie Motshekga 12/2/2008 2:34:58 PM
    Zuma government is OK because most people will benefit(Sihla sonke) and there will be no Scorpions to investigate. This is a fact you have to leave with. Everybody will have a fair share of the (loot)resources and not a few like now.
    Koekemoer 12/2/2008 2:35:13 PM
    So many whites said this before and some on this forum even said go abroad and leave SA if you do not like it. For me it is a surprise that so many black people can now see that there is life without the ANC. As a matter of fact that is their only chance for survival. You guys (blacks) better take time and convince your rural friends about the bad corrupted ANC. Whites took hands in the referendum to give you a vote in this country. Also your freedom fight helped a lot. Let us try to trust each other now? Bet it would not be that bad!
    bonjo 12/2/2008 2:35:59 PM
    He knows that Zuma is his president, Zuma has suffered enough public humiliation by being trialed through the media thanx to Ngcuka's off the record briefing in 2003. Do you know that even your Motlante had his own shaddy deals with Telkom together with Smuts Ngonyama? so please do not claim that he is a saint, like it or not we are putting Zuma in the union buildings and no one will stop us, the whole of KZN, Mpumalanga, Limpompo, Gauteng and Free state will vote for Zuma, Viva ANC, Viva Zuma..
    bhunu 12/2/2008 2:36:18 PM
    You are playing the man instead of the ball. Anyway Im also one of those who wish things turned out differently in Polokwane but as they did not I have embraced the decisions taken there. What is needed now is constructive critisism instead of wanting to score points with those who dispise the ANC. JZ is nowhere near convincing but do not seek to destroy his charecter, please.
    Tboss 12/2/2008 2:36:54 PM
    ANC will govern till the mess that was done for over 300+ years is fixed.
    Sunday Times 12/2/2008 2:38:15 PM
    Sunday Times 26 Oct - The auditor-general has slammed the National Prosecuting Authority (NPA / Scorpions) after uncovering widespraed tender-rigging and financial irregularities involving more than R500-million.
    Hlengani Baloyi 12/2/2008 2:38:28 PM
    ANC did call people to suggest what they would like to see in the Manifesto not who should govern the Country. May be you are too early to have your say with respect to that because the ellection day is only next year. We only ellect presidents through ballots and as far as I remeber ANC has long made a rulling around its precidency. The President of the ANC will be the president of the country if ANC is elected by majority of South Africans.
    Thami 12/2/2008 2:38:48 PM
    LIKE IT OR NOT. YOU BETTER "OUT" VOTE THE ANC FOR YOU TO CHOOSE ZILLE AS PRESIDENT. STOP TELLING ANC WHAT TO DO RATHER VOTE IN NUMBERS TO OUTGUN THE ANC. IF ANC WINS, JZ WILL BE THE PRESIDENT AND THE REST CAN GO AWAY ON HOLIDAY FOR FIVE YEARS AND COME BACK TO TRY AND VOTE AGAIN AND FAIL TO OUTWIT THE MOVEMENT. SWELL YOUR RANKS, WE WILL DO THE SAME.I CAN'T WAIT
    Fred 12/2/2008 2:39:13 PM
    Your name says it all you have the brain of a three month old.I suggest that you and the rest of the brainwashed ANC idiots who use this platform start to practise what you preach.1) ANCYL insult elder all the time.2)Engage your single brain cell before you open your mouth.3)You have no idea what democracy is.4)You only respect the ANC's point of view.5)We can join any political party we wish to, that is democracy, you practise dictatorship. To Phillip & Jabu the only brainwashed clowns are you.
    Gesundheit 12/2/2008 2:39:28 PM
    You've hit the nail on the showerhead, so to speak.
    Poekelie 12/2/2008 2:39:37 PM
    Excellent! I think you should send this letter to Mr Motlanthe and urge him to stand for president! I have been asking the same question - why does he not challenge the position! Start some campaign, you will have a lot of supporter.
    Sinudeity@Gmail.com 12/2/2008 2:40:48 PM
    Its there, in black and white. The 500,000 from thint, STRAIGHT into Zuma's bank account. To prevent an investigation into them. Then the 4,000,000 from Shabir, over period. For school fees, car payments etc. EVEN IF, shabir just gave it to him, that means Zuma cant manage his finances. Do you want someone like that as President? Who has to balance a countries books? Zuma is innocent, only if you cant see the facts, and only, if you cant think for yourself.
    bonjo 12/2/2008 2:41:08 PM
    and now they want to devide us by undermining the collective leadership of the ANC. Rather advise Motlante to campaign for the ANC presidency in 2012. White people are happy that some of our people are talking devisive language, black man remain united behind one president and one party, our party is the ANC and our president is Zuma just like it was with Mandela and Thabo Mbeki, we will obtain 80% majority, Viva ANC viva, Viva Zuma viva, Amandla..comrades remain united
    Thami 12/2/2008 2:41:56 PM
    we can start by electing Joe Seremane as president of DOGDY ALLIANCE before we ask ZUMA to step aside. PEOPLE, LISTEN out-vote the ANC and elect your president and we will not have problem with that. THE FACT IS, ANC WILL WIN AGAIN WHETHER YOU WHINGE OR NOT!
    Pfani 12/2/2008 2:43:19 PM
    Nice one, unfortunately we are living in an era whereby people can?t think but the only thing they do is to follow. Look, Zuma had been charged and everyone knows that. He did unthinkable acts, that are morally non acceptable and that?s not a secret. So I find it being stereotyped when one raised his honest voice to say can you please step aside to give someone whom no one yet had find any wrong doings on his adult life. As a leader you must be a role model. Whether the courts have found you innocent or guilty but some things needs our common sense to judge.
    Sinudeity@Gmail.com 12/2/2008 2:43:33 PM
    Its there, in black and white. The 500,000 from thint, STRAIGHT into Zuma's bank account. To prevent an investigation into them. Then the 4,000,000 from Shabir, over period. For school fees, car payments etc. EVEN IF, shabir just gave it to him, that means Zuma cant manage his finances. Do you want someone like that as President? Who has to balance a countries books? Zuma is innocent, only if you cant see the facts, and only, if you cant think for yourself.
    Mandla 12/2/2008 2:43:38 PM
    Your father Lekota tried the trick of attacking Zuma in electioneering prior to Phlokwane, it backfired. Zuma became more popular. History will repeat itself and we are going to have the last life. Remember Zuma is not the ANC, if he mess up the ANC will not be afraid to recall him and vote out the entire NEC. The ANC is a matured democratic organisation. Please just vote your Copse and spare us this gabbage.
    Monika 12/2/2008 2:44:20 PM
    Amen. I agree - I dont care if our president is black, white, pink or black - just be an honest person with integrity that has the interests of SOUTH AFRICA at heart.
    Tomas 12/2/2008 2:45:11 PM
    let these big mouths win elections and choose their president. We chose ANC president to be the President of the country, FINITO! Win elections or ELSE SHUT UP! i.e. exercise your rights to vote for a "collective" of opposition, but still FACT is ANC will chow you combined today, tomorrow, etc.
    Sinudeity@Gmail.com 12/2/2008 2:45:19 PM
    Yeah, by 300 die-hard Zuma supporters. Even evidence that some of them were bribed to "Vote for the right person". 300 ANC idiots, does not equal 40million people. That is not democracy.
    I'll push,CTKid,Thami&Jabu Poepol off the Edge!! 12/2/2008 2:46:32 PM
    That was 1 of the best reads I have had in a long awhile, all the things I & many "logical" others have wanted to say.....Just wish Zuma could read, so that he can see what we all think! @Capetown Kid, Thami & Jabu Poepol.....LOL u guys got slammed! If you're the opposition then its a sure win for the Educated in this country!
    makondo 12/2/2008 2:46:48 PM
    how dare you or anyone else say zuma was chosen democratically??? i am 60 years and recently stopped supporting the anc BUT i was an anc member since the age of 21 and i have seen things in the anc you and other fools like jabu pule etc could only dream of knowing or seeing yet i did not gt a chance to vote in polokwane. I did not have any decision in appointing a leader to lead my party???? yet he was voted in by a few hundred fools loyal to zuma and not loyal to the anc(you kids make me sick)
    Douglas Eva 12/2/2008 2:48:42 PM
    I am blown away by your abundant logic.Well said sir.
    IGGY ZAR 12/2/2008 2:48:52 PM
    Good article I should say. However, I think that as S. Africans especially blacks, we stil have this belief that we must vote 4 blacks. Am black but I have my doubts abt black leadership (in government not private entities) in SA. This might b time2start lookin at ada quality politicians. Eg USA's majority is white but they voted 4a darkie. Lets not b party/colour orientated but leadership & delivery orientated. Lets al think big, this is no age of miracles but innovative thinkin & implementation
    Cape Town Kid 12/2/2008 2:49:38 PM
    What mphvaakie is proposing is unconstitutional! Also when people vote, they vote for the party and not a person.Now Mphvaakie accepts that ANC will have a convincing win,so as a non-ANC supporter why is he trying to convince ANC?Its as if DA is asking ANC to change its presidential candidate(?)Now do you think DA would want ANC to interfere in their processes? guess not,why then insult us if we reject this with the contempt it deserves.
    Hasani Mashaba 12/2/2008 2:49:46 PM
    For an individual to be rated as Jesus starts from birth not adopted as one growth. I believe the person who can be rated as of the same standard as Jesus in politics is yet to be born. Neither ANC president nor US president elect are spotless. I therefore urge our beloved leadership to focus on politics rather than adding confusion to our little understanding of politics. What the comrade said about Zuma more like Jesus stands to be challenged. Are we going to say Zuma is like Satan oneday?
    Stryker 12/2/2008 2:49:56 PM
    It seems when it suits you the Wests opinion counts - Just not in Zimbabwe hmmm? Oh and as long as their opinion is positive and not criticism. typical ANC supporter - shout about the West on issues where they are happy and call them colonial masters who should stay out of Africa when they dare criticise. You are more of a fool than even you know.
    Rainbow Nation 12/2/2008 2:50:38 PM
    You have just said it yourself Jabu - NOBODY can tell the ANC what to do. And that my friend is the big problem - the ANC thinks they are a law unto themselves. Why do you think people are comparing Zuma to OJ Simpson? Please stay away from political commentary if you cant handle ANC criticism. You need to wake up & realize that this is not Madiba's ANC anymore. His vision has been trampled by current ANC leadership. Zuma will do NOTHING for you! Mphatjie hit the nail on the head!
    VG 12/2/2008 2:50:48 PM
    For once someone has put in writing clear and reasonable reasons that he may not vote for the ANC. Well done, Mphatjie - so often people spew the most unbelivable rubbish in order to jusify why they think the ANC does not deserve another time. This is one of the few letters that puts across a clearly considered view.
    Jabu Pule 12/2/2008 2:50:50 PM
    You are spreading myths about the new ANC. You have no right to request a change in our we conduct our business and that includes freedom of association with Blade Nzimande/Vavi. You also have no right ask us to change policies that took days to be finalized by intelligent individuals. You have no right to interfere with the affairs of NWC/PEC and NEC. Again go talk about your party, people that you going to vote for and change the world there. We are busy preparing an acceptance speech for Zuma.
    Lucky Ralawe 12/2/2008 2:50:59 PM
    Granted, the Kangaman was elected "democratically". Firstly, structures which did not support his showerhead were suspended/disbanded and those which did put in the place of the former by amongst others, that loudmouth Fikile Mbabula. Then the imposed structures were sent to Polokwane, and "democractically" elected the Kangaman. 40 per cent still voted against him. Does that make sense to you?
    ss 12/2/2008 2:52:10 PM
    I Agree.I like Kgalema Motlanthe,and think he could do us proud. Perhaps if we all hope hard enough it could happen.
    Pangea 12/2/2008 2:52:45 PM
    This will not happen, JZ lust for power is too strong
    B 12/2/2008 2:53:05 PM
    Why is it so difficult to see, all we need is some healthy competition to keep everyone in check and under the microscope!
    Karen 12/2/2008 2:53:54 PM
    You say that Zuma was elected democratically!! Are you not embarrassed to admit that you had a hand in making somebody of that calibre a leader. Does your criminal gang need a new leader? How on earth can ANC (zombie) followers sleep at night after having voted for such a criminal to lead the whole country over the cliff into the abyss of misery. We will all suffer. The only difference is that we will be victims while you had a hand in making this happen and are therefore the oppressors. Thank goodness it won't actually happen since (Jesus) Lekota has come (as Zuma predicted he would) to save us.
    Razzar 12/2/2008 2:55:37 PM
    I'm sure that Bonjo chap is matthew Phosa.So dodgy are the ANC NEC members that they would amke it in the Godfather movie, oh no.JZ will embarass this nation, just look at the desperacy of the 2009 manifesto, very unpractical.Even G.Bush at his worst refused a photo shoot with him.Come SA u can do better ... I might CoPe it for 2009.
    Big Bad Bob 12/2/2008 2:56:06 PM
    That's not going to happen. The ANC have been quite candid and clear about Monthlante being a care taker President. It is their declared intention to appoint Jacob Zuma as President if they win the next general election.
    S4 12/2/2008 2:56:15 PM
    Please correct me if I'm wrong. If a person (in this case Mphatjie) makes statements with which you do not agree, you take them one by one and try to disprove them. I dare you to tell us why Jacob Zuma is the kind of person we should look to for guidance and inspiration in the fight against HIV and Aids. I dare you to deny that a number of people in positions of leadership in the ANC have criminal records (you do accept that we have an independent judiciary, don't you?).
    percy 12/2/2008 2:57:37 PM
    well said, JZ pass Kgalema the steering to rescue the sinking S.A ship he has all we need for our LEADER
    Sfiso 12/2/2008 3:00:55 PM
    Try another topics that will suit your style. In ANC we don't play the men but da ball, & yo problem is misunderstanding the ANC. Since yu stay in PTA I would like to bet to you that come 2014 elections yu'll vote JZ (provided you care about the poor and balanced society. I would like to chalenge yu on political discussion if yu don't mind, people like yu need to be taught not rubbished.
    Les-Maada 12/2/2008 3:01:22 PM
    Its Cope not the ANC that needs your unbalanced lectures!You should've used your obviousley unlimited time to write something convincing about COPE!But no!!! You'll rather entertain ya fellow wishy washers with your usual bleating that always ends up irritating the sober minded People!Its COPE that needs ya rubbish Mpatjie not the ANC!
    Majozi 12/2/2008 3:03:43 PM
    Hey man,stop dreaming and say something contructive.You are a joke yourself stupid as you know whatever you think or say wont change anything in politict and only the elite(Whites who disguise with Balck pseudonims) are able to read and respond and the majority of us don`t even bother.Get real and stop dreaming
    Venda boy 12/2/2008 3:07:41 PM
    I agree 100% with everything you say Mphatjie. Indeed Zuma is a comical character who is only fit to rule a banana republic.Sadly, your vision has little chance of seeing the light of day. Empty demagogues like VAvi and Nzimande have invested too much in Zuma they will do everything to ensure he becomes president next year. Already Kgalema is fast becoming a persona non grata amongst these unthinking idiots. They see him as poised to upset the applecart. Anyway you vision is shared by most of us.
    Point Blank 12/2/2008 3:24:20 PM
    Typically intolerant and threatening. Telling someone to shut up shows your misunderstanding of freedom. Freedom is not a word it is a verb, it actually means alot more then a word you stick in a sentence to use to suit you. But one cannot expect you lot to understand that, realise the ANC is falling from grace and in a few years time will not rule this country and that will be a democratic process, not Polokwane democracy. The people (all of us) will make that choice, deal with it.
    Geog 12/2/2008 3:26:45 PM
    Your first wish sounds like a real wish even though not, but the rest are the obvious crappy comments uttered by the ill-informed who can't cope with the ANC being in power and particularly the anti-zums forum members.
    Loid the Zoid 12/2/2008 3:27:14 PM
    To bad we can only laugh for this will never happen. Zuma will rule for life.
    Comic Ali 12/2/2008 3:27:23 PM
    everytime when there is a letter attacking the anc there is so much racial tone and racist remarks posted to comment on it. And if i read who respond mostly is racist white people.
    Sanele 12/2/2008 3:27:54 PM
    Please wonderful blog user allow me to criticise your comments, and even unfairly if it cost me to do so.We get paid for what we have worked for,analyze that Mr Mphatjie.Do you think if Zuma ate the money is alone in that?.I guarantee you my man if he was he would have long been caught.Beside,All Black SA political leaders have killed one boer atleast to enable me and you to write such things on the internet!Without these people there was never gonna be a free SA.But now his future is in quandary
    T-Bone 12/2/2008 3:28:14 PM
    Shame man, I feel sorry for the old toppie. I am sure Tokyo/Phosa talk non stop in the NEC meetings telling the old man what to do. Well, its a pitty that this letter will fall on deaf ears.
    chillepeppa 12/2/2008 3:30:16 PM
    "The ANC, of which you are president, has called on South Africans to submit their visions for a better South Africa. " - Seems most ANC supporters chose NOT to read this part of the letter. He was only giving the ANC what they asked for. Can this be the standard @ which most ANC supporters operate?
    Point Blank 12/2/2008 3:31:42 PM
    Typically intolerant and threatening. Telling someone to shut up shows your misunderstanding of freedom. Freedom is not a word it is a verb, it actually means alot more then a word you stick in a sentence to use to suit you. But one cannot expect you lot to understand that, realise the ANC is falling from grace and in a few years time will not rule this country and that will be a democratic process, not Polokwane democracy. The people (all of us) will make that choice, deal with it.
    pp 12/2/2008 3:34:21 PM
    Each & every one of you responding to this article, are you anc members to tell the anc what to do? The majority of anc members in Polokwane who they chose to be next president? Did Motlantle stand up against Mbeki?
    Cpt Crunch 12/2/2008 3:36:29 PM
    Surely somewhere along the line one has to step back and truly look beyond the smokescreen. Somewhere deep inside, you MUST be able to see what's happening and start thinking for yourselves! The winds of change are sweeping this country and you can't fight it anymore. Democracy is slowly doing it's job, as people are talking are starting to fight back, no matter the race! Just look at this Forum! Surely we are not ALL racists for simply talking and questioning.
    malcolmx 12/2/2008 3:39:03 PM
    This is a brilliant article. Well written. I would however like to thank Mr Zuma for being an endless source of amusement to me over the last few years. You truly are a walking cartoon & have brought smiles to the face of many. As a politician, you are a dismal failure, but please don't give up on your natural acting skills. You have a future in theatre.
    Arica for life 12/2/2008 3:41:34 PM
    Africa is the bithplace of humanity therefore no continent in the world can tell the motherland how to rule. All these comments are just sour grapes over what Africans have achieved over the span of history.
    Tiekies 12/2/2008 3:44:45 PM
    Who is more dumb the ANC or their supporters , I mean just look at what rubbish the anc leaders say to the world , Look at what their supporters say on here also open to the world , I caant baleev !!
    mark 12/2/2008 3:45:01 PM
    Cry of beloved SA
    Paul 12/2/2008 3:48:08 PM
    This specific article/letter has nothing to do with race, its about an individual offering his vision of South Africa. We as SA citizens need to get over race, and focus on picking leaders with integrity, to lead us all to a brighter future! BTW great article Mr Monareng.
    Roberto 12/2/2008 3:48:20 PM
    it is fascinating to see how things and people evolve. i am glad for a party to come and challenge the anc i am glad that the anc feels threatened. this shows their weaknesses so everyone can understand this is not a democracy to have one parties way, only with shared power can South Africa be a democracy.
    Pe 12/2/2008 3:50:07 PM
    If all you angry people were to put emotions aside,IF JZ wins that will be democracy.Unfortunately in a democratic process the majority decides.According to the constitution and all other laws of the country,the man qualifies to run for it.What I sense from you guys is fear of the unstopable ANC victory.Pls just respect the democratic process,if you are uncomfortable with that sorry MAYBE next time.Some of you guys simple hate JZ and the ANC now that's your problem stomach it.
    Sven Gohre 12/2/2008 3:54:07 PM
    I have no idea which planet you are living on, ANC getting 80% of the vote. Only if they use the ZANU-PF method of holding elections. I do not doubt that the ANC will get the majority of votes on next years election, but I have a feeling that the electorate is waking up and the days of a 2/3 majority are now history. The ANC as a liberation movement excelled, as a government it is a dismal failure.
    Tevin C 12/2/2008 3:55:31 PM
    Your article is the same as those written by anti ANC idiots and full of ill-advised information. Idiots like you have already sentence the men for crimes he yet to be convicted of. Your hatred of the ANC is fogged up by your blindness and eagerness to please your handlers. If you open your eyes you will realise that you are playing in the hands of idiots. You are free to speak your mind but do not think that you rubbish will put a dent in the ANC. Your handlers have failed dismally.
    Kenroid 12/2/2008 3:57:24 PM
    If Zuma is such a legend and supposedly seen as such world wide...then why are there no pictures of him meeting Obama??? Because he did meet with him, BUT for some really weird reason...i have no idea what it could be...Obama refused to have his picture taken with Zuma...HMMMMMMMM
    S'buti 12/2/2008 3:57:53 PM
    Mphatjie, I don't think Zuma would have refused 2 step aside if there was something like that based on your comments in the SA Constitution. I don't think u(yourself) would quit your job if being convicted from something that still has to be proven. Zuma didn't write our constitution and like any other citizen of this country(including u)it allows him to be where he is, so why blame him??? And 4 your info,Motlanthe is a 100% Zuma suppoter, 'remember Polokwane??? Please Shut Up!!!
    Suzz 12/2/2008 3:58:43 PM
    I'm sorry, Zuma was not elected democratically. IU had no say in it. Only a few fatcats of the ANC sitting around eating and drinking and having a party in Polokwane. Democratically elected my ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Likhatatso 12/2/2008 4:03:38 PM
    Mediocrity always breeds more mediocrity. Only smart leaders (like Barack Obama) surround themselves with smart people. The rest are not so bright and therefore find lesser lights to shine around them. They are supported by those who live in darkness.
    Steph 12/2/2008 4:04:02 PM
    Comic Ali Loid the Zoid Majozi Les-Maada Thami bonjo These are the people that approve of corruption, and the rape of South Africa's people.
    Just Me 12/2/2008 4:05:27 PM
    atleast we know you can count ..... now go teach JZ too...:)
    fedup 12/2/2008 4:07:23 PM
    its a good thing that its just your DISTORTED VISION!!!!
    lexx 12/2/2008 4:10:04 PM
    I have never heard or seen such hate and intolerance ... utter madness - this country deserves all of you. i will enjoy watching as the snake slowly consumes its own tail. i can appreciate the authors sentiment and there seems an honesty within his words ... why dont you all shut up and make a stand. i am bored with all this crap. enough is enough!
    Phil 12/2/2008 4:10:48 PM
    Nthatuwa, what makes you think that KZN is full of people who do whatever Zuma does and says? For your info, this is the hub of South Africa's livelyhood, humanity, culture, economy, history, heritage and a lot of happy events. And to advise you, don't laugh at other people's mishaps coz you don't know what's gonna happen to you tomorrow, look at Mbeki... his father despised him the day he came back from exile, fyi.
    Azanian Child 12/2/2008 4:15:57 PM
    Why does it seem that the loud voices on News24 are either Zuma bashers(Mostly Cope and DA'ers) or Zuma lovers(ANC loyalists). Where is the voice of reason in all this noise. If the choice is Zuma or Cope then we are heading for worse indeed. As for the Zille supporters, I am still trying to figure out to what end are you hoping to achieve being in the middle of this fight. -Azanian Child
    DOPLA 12/2/2008 4:16:15 PM
    There is tendancy that growing in South Africa where the individual will write a letter to a certain person and distribute it to the public. This piece of a letter is nothing else but a hatred to Cde Zuma. In my understand all these people that they want to grand stand are not always win. Unfortunately,Monareng Zuma will lead the ANC to polls and win the election in 2009. Like it or not
    Cynical 12/2/2008 4:16:27 PM
    The village Comic was also there and in the corner he sat, Amusing himself by abusing himself and catching it in his hat.
    Shan 12/2/2008 4:19:44 PM
    Jabu - "English and USA Government" - Sorry what? - you call other people idots. Engish (nor England for that matter) is not a government!! Enlish is a language, something you clearly have no grasp of!!! If you represnt the future of out country, I am scared, very scared.
    Zaid 12/2/2008 4:20:06 PM
    Jabu Pule... are you for real. How old are you. Are you educated because your comments lend ittself to extreme ignorance.
    Farakhan 12/2/2008 4:20:50 PM
    You are such a fool the ANC voted for Zuma in Polokwane to be the President you moron.
    Jean 12/2/2008 4:20:56 PM
    Zuma is in it for his own gain, as are most ANC polititians. Does he care what the majority think? Lets wait & see.
    Koos 12/2/2008 4:21:54 PM
    No one should be allowed to be in any public office if they have a criminal record. Oops, that negates most of the ANC leadership for crimes after 1994. Theft, cooruption etc is in the order of the day. The biggest difference between the old and new government is that the old NP shafted only other races and the ANC shafts EVERYONE!! How many members in the ANC got fired for doing their job too well? A better life for all but the Poeple.
    All Star 12/2/2008 4:24:30 PM
    Take a look at the ANC and its president - for goodness sakes - just go vote for a different party such as the DA or COPE for that matter. Just get these idiots out of office so our country can start growing positively.
    Duzi 12/2/2008 4:24:40 PM
    You know, I respect your views, in fact, some of them I agree with, but you insults... I used to insult the kid next to me I didn't like when I was 5 yet as "adults" (I assume) you continue to disrespect and insult people for views differing to your own. I am embarrassed to call you fellow South Africans and the ANC should be embarrassed to call you supporters. The ANC has respectfully changed this coutry for the good, yet you use it as a platform to insult. The way of the ignorent I guess...?
    tso 12/2/2008 4:25:56 PM
    SA must be led by credible politicians with proven track records of achievement. Was Thabo credible politicians with proven track records of achievement? Was Pres mandela credible politicians with proven track records of achievement?
    Nta 12/2/2008 4:27:08 PM
    You have said it mouthful!!Come the elections we will express our disatisfaction without fear. We need real leaders not power mongers.
    Ulaka 12/2/2008 4:28:51 PM
    Nice attitude loser. Imagine Mandela had said that about the NP "You are a joke yourself stupid as you know whatever you think or say wont change anything in politict and only the elite(Whites who disguise with Balck pseudonims) are able to read and respond and the majority of us don`t even bother" Where would we be. We can change we must become the voice of change - we will change - now climb back under the bed or be proud and fight like a man.
    bob 12/2/2008 4:29:07 PM
    Fraud conviction On April 24, 2003, she was found guilty on 43 counts of fraud and 25 of theft, and her broker, Addy Moolman, was convicted on 58 counts of fraud and 25 of theft. Both had pleaded not guilty to the charges, which related to money taken from loan applicants' accounts for a funeral fund, but from which the applicants did not benefit. Madikizela-Mandela was sentenced to five years in prison.[4] Shortly after the conviction, she resigned from all leadership positions in the ANC, including her parliamentary seat and the presidency of the ANC Women's League.[5] In late 2003, her close friend and socialite Hazel Crane was murdered. Crane previously offered to buy Madikizela-Mandela a house. [6] In July 2004, an appeal judge of the Pretoria High Court ruled that "the crimes were not committed for personal gain". The judge overturned the conviction for theft, but upheld the one for fraud, handing her a three years and six months suspended sentence.[7]
    All Star 12/2/2008 4:29:16 PM
    Hats off to the author - very good article. Hopefully your article can reach the "masses" as well somehow. Great to see you mentioning all these valid points - and to hell if you are critisized for speaking the truth
    Ulaka 12/2/2008 4:35:40 PM
    Its you with the problem - our leaders in the ANC are evil theives. just because i say this does not make me racist - you see an attack on the ANC as an attack on black people which is stupid of you. We want whats best for our country - Leaders with Good Morals, selfless, dignified and strong. Its funny that Even Obama did not want a photo with our president - is that the type of man you want leading your country?? and anyway its the ANC supporters with the colour tinted lenses on these forms.
    ZWELI 12/2/2008 4:36:47 PM
    well said Mphatjie you are great patriot a brave south african,you are one of the people who love south africa by able to tell the truth,soon to be president,he is a disgrace and the people who elected him know very well,but they are taking south african voters for granted. vavi and blade have their agenda.the honourable zuma must step aside and give way for his deputy.we love our love .zuma is beyond repairs.
    Zorba 12/2/2008 4:42:02 PM
    I totally agree with your letter, but it will never happen while the majority in our country think the ANC stands for democricy at the moment. How can a handfull of people elect a leader for the whole country? And I feel sorry for people like Philani who thinks that is how democricy works. We have a long way to go before we have a true democricy. It is true what Zapiro said about taking the Ogre out of the swamp. Viva Zhrek.
    Toni 12/2/2008 4:45:12 PM
    Like they say in Afrikaans... jy het die spuiker op die kop geslaan. Need i say more.
    Thabo Thuthuga 12/2/2008 4:45:26 PM
    That would be a better option but since motlanthe speeches are written by zuma ..." motlanthe is just a face ,zuma is incharge.." its a worse as zuma, we need a change and i doubt zuma's leadership. so since we black people have few or one option we will vote for ANC not zuma though he will be ruling cope is also just an angry party so .... THERE IS NO WAY OUT .. UNLESS WE WAIT FOR NON-STRUGGLE ICON to come with a change
    MJB 12/2/2008 5:16:40 PM
    Comic Ali, go check again; U will see names like Geog, Majozi, Les Maada, Thami, Bonjo, Thami, Jabu and Cape Town Kid; all spitting pro ANC comments and talking about others as if these are 2nd grade citizens without a voice. To which race do all the commentators belong? I can't tell, can you? It is so sad that there are a group that brings race into any discussion, just because they disagree with ANC NEC, please gro up, let us ask the difficult questions,challange the political leaders to serve

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