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Zimbabwe
03/12/2008 12:15
And it is about time! They must do something, anything to stop Mugabe's regime. The people can no longer suffer in silence. Stop all the aid, everything so that he can no longer live off the help of other countries whilst his people are starving.! - Marina |
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THE END
03/12/2008 12:16
Seems like in Africa, THE END of a political era means there is actually nothing left in a country to build on. Hope if the end of the ANC arrive here, it will not mean the end of this country as well, but that civilization will remain. - Sam |
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About time
03/12/2008 12:27
If the SADC leaders weren't so spineless and stood up to the animal that is Mugabe, they could have averted this mess before it got out of hand. The genius ANC leadership have now created a problem in SA as a result of the incompetency they displayed in dealing with Zim. I wonder how Mantu the genius would have dealt with the cholera. She probably would have stood on the boarder throwing beetroots over the Limpopo. - James |
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Excellent Piece . . . but
03/12/2008 12:27
Tshepo this is very well written and a passionate cry for change. However i feel you have romanticised the situation a little. The soldiers are looting and protesting because they have no money and no food. If Mugabe paid them in US dollars they would gladly visit wanton slaughter on innocent Zimbabweans if ordered. Had they staged a peaceful protest instead of acting like rampaging animals i may be ready to give them some credit. - Shoes |
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Great read - lets hope and pray for the People of Zim
03/12/2008 12:29
...lets also hope and pray that the same cycle does not play itself out here in SA as many people believe. Seriously great letter. - Ulaka |
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Zimbabwe
03/12/2008 12:30
Although I feel bad about what is happening in Zim,don't you think the people of Zim should take some resposibility,for 28 years they have stood by and watched Mugabe ruin there country,but they did nothing,now that everything is in pieces now they want to come and change things,those army people helped mugabe murder and torture thousands if not millions of people. - proud to be white |
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Very valid point..
03/12/2008 12:32
not sure if i agree with you're comments regarding "free wheeling" Tsvangirai. What was he to do? Tow the line and become a lame duck Prime Minister? Mugabe will be killed by his own people and Tsvangirai will lead Zim out of the doldrums. - John Camp |
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HEY TSHEPO ?????
03/12/2008 12:32
Keep telling yourself that.Zim will be the same in years to come. Did you know that those soldiers were executed this morning at around 4am ???? and the bodies cannot be found !!!! - Badger |
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Hear you Tshepo but looting..
03/12/2008 12:35
privately owned property like shops belongin to the very Ppl who are also trying hard to make a living is nowhere near fighting for liberation if u ask me!The best they could've done was to disrupt all Gov & its affiliated operations & deserted all their national security check points instead of stealing the last bits of bread remaining inside some poor shopkeepers shelves!This latest circus by the Zim soldiers did'nt even moved Bob, instead it was a clear display of cowardice in his eyes! - Les-Maada |
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Tshepo,
03/12/2008 12:39
outstanding piece of writing! I agree with you. What I cannot understand, is why did the Zim people vote for Bob in the first place. Was it because he "freed" them from the evil Muzorewa/Smith regime, who were the government when Zimbabwe still had food to eat and clean drinking water to drink, not to speak about electricity and money worth something. The RBZ are printing new 100 million dollar notes again, like before they removed a couple of zeros a while ago. - hjs |
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Learn from examples..........
03/12/2008 12:40
set by many a country who has freed themselves from centuries of tyranical rule.America has finally woken up and realised that it belongs to all who live in it.I still however appeal tp Zim's to provide their own solutions to their freedom.You cannot import our freedom and expect us to do it for you, you must struggle and free yourselves.Its the only way which is credible and sustainable.You need a hero who must lead you to your freedom. - Cape Town Kid |
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Shoes
03/12/2008 12:41
I am afraid I have to agree with you. Looting can never be a cry for freedom! - Peter |
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Free???
03/12/2008 12:44
I think that your jubilations are a little premature. As has been the case for so long, the Zim people seem to prefer dying of hunger over dying while fighting. Their well known natural friendliness seems to be their worst enemy under the current circumstances.
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Now its alright for them to act?
03/12/2008 12:47
And what do they do? Loot civilians shops? WOW, the great Zim sure has fallen. - MissLeds |
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As time passes
03/12/2008 12:52
Years ago I was a racist for condeming the situation in Zimbabwe and blaming the ZANU government. Now that more of our fellow citizens are (finally) sharing the same view (too late for hundred of Zimbo's though), can I have my status upgraded from 'racist' to 'correct call made'? - AJ |
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I love it !!!!!
03/12/2008 12:53
When the white farmers were kicked off the nation celebrated.Now they are suffering like animals and who must send food...the white man.
What is South Africa doing to protect the farmer,nothing, they are being slautered.
No farmer, No food. Zim has been free for 28 years now, free to starve and free to die.
equal rights, electric lights, big corn bites,
as long as the white man doesent rule then all is OK. - slabs |
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Badger
03/12/2008 12:55
Badger, I don't doubt you that they were executed as I know that after Mugabe lost the first election he went out and murdered scores of people in "MDC Area's" This was not publicised. Do you have any proof, or is it reported some where. New of what is REALLY happening needs to be heard by the world. - Zimgurl |
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Too little too late!
03/12/2008 12:58
Pity there won't be anything left for them to inherit along with that freedom, assuming they even get it in the near future. I just hope that that same light begins to shine into this shack of ours, before we find ourselves in the same predicament. Vote wisely next year people! - Gesundheit |
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"the past seven years of his torturous regime"?!
03/12/2008 12:59
What about the twenty one years prior to the last seven? Oh no,wait.Sorry.The Matabeleland massacre and all else is forgotten about as the dictator was assisting with the ANC's liberation struggle here. - The Truth |
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Brilliant!
03/12/2008 13:00
Nice piece Tshepo, we all hope that the people of Zimbwabwe will soon realise that no one except themselves will rescue their homeland from Mugabe! It is also true that the soldiers revolt might have sparked something, but lets remember that they actually support Mugabe and simply revolted because they did not get paid! A better source of civil uprising is needed, it is up to the MDC to spark the fire and bring Mugabe down by the might of the people, forget SADC, forget AU, forget Mbeki!! - Pitso |
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Agree with Les-Maada
03/12/2008 13:00
I think their liberation fight dovetailed quite nicely with a food run - the latter perhaps being the main point. - AJ |
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Zim
03/12/2008 13:01
I suppose the ANC is going to wait for Zim to final disintegrate into a Somalia and the SANDF will be sent in to try and fix the situation. Thanks Thabo another great show from you and and your ANC buddies. - Pangea |
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Really
03/12/2008 13:02
I shudder at the thought of what's happening in Zimbabwe.But I don't see how looting can be a solution or be regarded as a sign of a people awaking from a deep sleep of oppression.Why not take the government to task?,not poor shop owners who are barely making it.Imagine if all people in SA who aren't being paid or are being retrenched decided to loot shops.Right,not a pretty sight now,is it? - nthatuwa |
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Zimbabwe
03/12/2008 13:03
What I fail to understand, is why Morgan Tsvangari is so villified by the people of Africa. He lead his party to victory at the elections held in March, but is still refered to as the opposition. Magabe has stolen every election since 2000 and stil SADC tell the MDC to share power with a man that has proved time and time again that he is not to be trusted. People have forgotten how the PF became part of ZANU in the first place. The unity government formed at that time became a single party state. - Sven Gohre |
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@ Badger
03/12/2008 13:03
Is that really true?Wow!! - nthatuwa |
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@Tshepo Matjila
03/12/2008 13:05
Wow Tshepo, what rubbish. These soldiers are the same ones who have kept their uncle Bob in power for how long? Is this African freedom? Looting and stealing from privately owned shops? They have already murdered thousands of Zimbabweans. Remember the Red Brigade slaughter? It?s just another day in the Zimbabwean great liberation struggle. - Joe333 |
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NO Sympathy!
03/12/2008 13:14
You wanted to invade food-producing farms! Now you reap what you sow. Or wait.. you didn't sow anything.. Enjoy starving! I've got NO sympathy for you! - Juan |
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Zim
03/12/2008 13:14
I hope you are right but don't think that liberty is worth much in a country that doesn't have anything including the skills to lift itself out of the dark ages. - Dan's an idiot |
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I think it's just got SO BAD, that no one is afraid of death anymore!
03/12/2008 13:15
The situation is so dire that you're going to die anyway - whether of hunger or disease - and standing up to Mad Bob and his cronies is just a different way to do it. My fear is a coup, staged by the army, because believe me, those generals in charge (and incidentally the ones who performed / or ordered the brutal massacres, torture, deaths in the past) will make Mad Bob look like Homer Simpson in comparison if they get into power. - Laurie |
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Light at the end of the tunnel
03/12/2008 13:15
Yes sure there is light at the end of the tunnel,
Its a train coming. - slabs |
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Quiet deplomacy
03/12/2008 13:19
All those who praise Mbeki for the way he dealt with Zimbabwe.
May the blood and suffering of those people be on the hands of all those who could have done something and did nothing.
The suffering of Zimbabwe's has nothing to do with the West rather greedy and corrupt Zimbabwean leaders.
Shame on all of us, may those who have died due to our lack of action rest in peace! - Love Africa |
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@Teshpo
03/12/2008 13:20
I agree that this is a sign that the end is nearer. But those soldier are idiots as the looted from innocents. If the wanted change, they should have stage a coup. - Rian |
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@Slabs
03/12/2008 13:22
100001% SPOT-ON dude!!! - The farm invasions sparked EVERYTHING!! Now they've got to live with theire barbaric consequences!! - I have NO sympathy for them! NONE! - Juan |
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Hope against Hope
03/12/2008 13:22
Zimbabwe is in a state of decline- the end for Mugabe will come but it's hard to predict. I think the situation will get worse SADLY - more death, hunger & disease before we can think of any positive change. - Alice |
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Who gives a sh%$!!...
03/12/2008 13:25
As long as what happens in Zimbabwe...stays in Zimbabwe. - Whathe@@ck |
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BS
03/12/2008 13:27
What a load of..... - Unknown |
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Put in what you get out
03/12/2008 13:36
There seems to be a lot a resentment towards affluent people. What lots of the jealous fail to realise is the amount of work that goes into making money. You get out what you put in. The Zim 'war vets' have put in nothing, so they deserve nothing in return. It's about time the west abandoned Africa and let them sort themselves out. - Cynic |
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@CapeTownGoatKid
03/12/2008 13:46
Yes my bru, you need a hero to show you how 'real freedom' works right? Always looking for a 'chief' (like Zuma?)to lead you into temptation and keep you enslaved until the next coup right? You're so African my bru. Best just keep on dissing the West. At least that tune strikes true for you. Africa loves a chief with many pawns (Popularist socialist type democracy). West love a pawn doing the will of many chiefs (intelligent educated people and real democracy). Go study, stop spewing District 6! - Pieter |
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Stop complaining about Zim
03/12/2008 13:47
Mr mbeki is doing a wonderfull job and quiet diplomacy is a roaring success, Zim is moving forward perfectly. SADEC are a beautifull example of Africa solving their own problems. Besides its all the Wests fault anyway!!! - Stryker |
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Nice try
03/12/2008 13:49
The soldiers running amoke in the streets of Harare would have been an indication that the military were reaching a tipping point. However your argument is flawed for the simple reason that the soldiers didn't attack government institutions or facilities, they attacked innocent bystanders. - Sean |
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The beginning of the end was...
03/12/2008 13:58
... when they chased farmers away and took their land. Recent events are just the latest in the downward spiral. They asked for it and now they've got it. I feel sorry for those opposed to Mugabe and with no say in affairs. The real victims. However, I have little sympathy for Mugabe's chronies. - chops |
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Boo Hoo...
03/12/2008 14:00
A cry for freedom! - Tsotsi |
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@ Ape town kid
03/12/2008 14:03
Yeah I realy hope zim is enjoying their freedom they earned it !!That is a great example of african leader ship !!!Hope all the pro anc's like you remembers one thing , This please becomes like zim all the whites can leave , The you can blame us till you pink and the eat it !! - willie |
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zimbos made their own bed
03/12/2008 14:03
Farmers and their animals were slaughtered and they did nothing. Now that they're starving to death, they want help. no one helped those farmers, so why should they be helped now? Screw them. They created this mess with mob mentality. I don't feel sorry for them at all. "I told you so" comes to mind. Actions have consequences. - Viparo |
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Tsepho
03/12/2008 14:07
Well written article and very valid points, but some people would also call those brave soldiers thugs that are looting shops of private men and women who ALSO need to feed their individual families. It's a sad situation that has been forced on the country by a terrible dictator like Mugabe... HOPEFULLY old JZ won't let the power go to his head and do the same... but I have faith, after all, as far as I'm concerned, we are in the best country in the world!! - Duzi |
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I'm not so sure
03/12/2008 14:13
We have been saying the same thing for years. Bob is a sly old fox. He knows what palms to grease and is oblivious of how bad things really are. Nor does he really care. The Zimbabweans are a peaceful lot to a point of being cowards. This could drag on and on. - John |
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@Badger
03/12/2008 14:14
Where did you find that out - the execution? - Steph |
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Mbeki 2 Blame
03/12/2008 14:16
Though I never voted former SA Pres. Mbeki , I still maitain that he's to blame in the disentegration of Zim due to his "my friend " approach when dealing with Mugabe.I say this as one of the people who've endorsed Mbeki throughout and believe that he's had some blunders as well positives. Our people are now dying due to cholera because of all this mess .It's true it's about Damn time the Zimbabweans rose up. - Gerald Mphuthi |
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nothing
03/12/2008 14:22
we are blowing out a minor issue here.Zimbabweans repossed their land. full stop.who said hunger will not end as the rainy and planting season is now there.here that country alone and concentrate on your own business. - mbora |
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Loot
03/12/2008 14:23
Isn't it counter-revolutionary to complain about Zim? After all, a loot-a continua! True sons of the soil and all that... - johnnybnice |
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price of liberty is starvation
03/12/2008 14:29
Looting and picking on the man in the street is never the solution. Even if they were revolutionaries who were ready to kick out Bob (wishful thinking) then they would still be left with no crops, no food and chlorea. But the good news is they would be able to vote. - Ginger |
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beetroot
03/12/2008 14:30
Somehow I think the Zimbabweans would appreciate the beetroot being thrown over the boarder even if they don't cure chlorea - Ginger |
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Zim
03/12/2008 14:54
Warm thoughts but its just mere speculation. Mugabe is in control and steering his ship well to wreckage. This is Africa my friend. Just another anarchy in the making, where no rue of law exists. Think of Somalia, DRC, Sierra Leone, Cote Dvoire. Thats the African way - Diva dollar |
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cape town kid
03/12/2008 14:59
Kiddo, so you concede South Africa belongs to all of us then? So if the world kept quiet during apartheid, and they didn't enforce sanctions? According to you, the world should not have "interfered". And please do remember: it is because of whites that you have freedom. If the majority of whites did not vote against apartheid... I for one am very glad they did. I, unlike you, do not see race as important. Underneath our skin we all look the same. Remember that, kiddo. - Elizabeth |
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Zim
03/12/2008 15:14
A heavy handed military stealing from shopowners you say? Sounds like a normal day in Zimbabwe to me. - 20-20 Vision |
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Freedom
03/12/2008 15:33
It is very ironic that the liberators are now trying to liberate themselves of the former liberators. This is Africa's way, forever liberating but never free. Africa's poverty (in all spheres) is a cultural one. True enlightenment and Rennaissance starts with knowledge and the ability to think. Go figure. - Pieter |
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Freedome - Pieter
03/12/2008 16:37
I think this comment kind of sums up what the world thinks of Africa - forever liberating but never quite free. Spot On Pieter - Amazed |
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