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Where are dog lovers now?

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2009-01-05 10:47

Sam Naiker, News24 User

Human beings are a species of habit. In the case of some people, it is easy to predict what they will do at a precise time of day, week or even month.

When it comes to the demonstration of anger this can also be predicted with clockwork precision.

One such case is on the annual celebration of the Hindu festival of lights, Diwali or Deepavali. As inevitable as the fireworks are at this time of year, so is the inevitability of the targeted anger by those opposed to fireworks.

"The competition fuelled by a war of words begins to rapturous applause. In the blue corner we have the dog lovers and all those opposed to loud sounding fireworks and in the red corner we have those that adamantly defend their constitutional right to celebrate their religion anyway that they please.

"The blue corner throws a nicely-timed jab of eloquently phrased words onto the sweet spot of the red corner, citing animal cruelty.

"The red corner rolls with the punches and responds as quickly to their opponent with a well-placed comment of their own right on the chin of the blue corner, quoting their constitutional right to celebrate their religion.

"By the initial sparing, it is clear that neither corner is willing to give in easily. The fight continues for days with neither corner giving an inch.

"Finally, well after the Diwali festival the match is called a draw. Both corners retreat and vow to be back next year."

Testing the noise levels

So why bring this up now? Is this topic not binding by the unsaid laws of periodic branding and mud slinging? Does this article not belong in a comment section a few months ago during Diwali?

The answer, my fellow reader, is that the basis for this story was set during the festival of lights. Tired of the annual bickering between those for and against loud sounding fireworks I decided to perform a test of my own.

The test was simply to test the level of noise during Diwali and New Year's day and compare the number of complaints from the public through mediums such as the newspaper, online web applications and the news on TV.

The noise levels of loud sounding fireworks during News Year's day by my estimations were between 70% and 80% of that experienced during Diwali.

My method of estimation was a bit amateurish and subjective, but I can confirm that no animals were harmed in my estimation process nor was any constitutional right violated. So I was reasonably happy.

What surprised me was that there were no complaints during this period. It would seem that complaints over fireworks are reserved for Diwali and no other time of the year.

A few mediums, including News24, ran polls and published articles related to the subject but this incited absolutely no response from the common man on the street.

'Where are they now?'

Just for the record, my position on fireworks is that loud sounding fireworks should not be allowed at any time of year but that the rest should be allowed.

Strict laws should be put in place for anyone abusing not only animals but also other human beings. If an animal is killed because of misuse of fireworks, and if this can be proved then this should lead to a life sentence for that person

My question though is, "Where are all the dog lovers now?"

Do they only come out during Diwali. Maybe it is their dogs who are a bit selective over the sounds that they want to hear.

If it sounds like I am making fun of this situation, it is because I am. I find this a bizarre phenomenon in current day South Africa.

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Kerry 1/5/2009 11:00:26 AM
Maybe they are on holiday and dont have access to internet. My opinion is the same as yours. it should be banned in residential areas
blah 1/5/2009 11:08:14 AM
Well written letter but the fact is fireworks are annoying no matter who is setting them off or why. It rained on the 31st December where I live and as result the noise levels there were probably 40% of what they were on Diwali which would result in fewer complaints.
Malcolm 1/5/2009 11:08:18 AM
I agree with you that people should only use fireworks that have a colourful display as opposed to a loud sound, especially for Diwali, which is not the festival of sound. One big difference between new year and Diwali, is the duration. Most people have come to expect that there will be fireworks on the evening of the 31st, but Diwali spans a much longer period, and therefore causes repetitive stress on animals. This is probably why more people complain over Diwali than over new year.
Vicky van Gemert 1/5/2009 11:09:34 AM
Sam, you probably make a valid point. I still complained about the noise level at `new Year as my dogs go absolutely mad and I have to stay with them until things have calmed down. BUT where I live they noise was not even 10% of what we experienced during Diwali. AND the noisiest fireworks on new year's still emanated from the same house that managed to break all noise records during Diwali as well. That was what pissed me off!! Our whole neighbourhood (people and animals) have to suffer
Met Uysh! 1/5/2009 11:09:54 AM
All fireworks should be banned. There are currently legislation in place which bans the use of fireworks in urban areas and the selling thereof at street corners but this is impossible to enforce. Ban fireworks all together, it is a waste of money and damaging to animals to say the least. Banning it in its entirety will bring much more safety.It was sad to see how many people from the poor areas were shooting up their money.
Andre the dog lover 1/5/2009 11:13:18 AM
One that is quite different though. We have a Siberian Husky. He couldn't care less if people shot off fireworks. He doesn't even mind weed-earters and lawnmowers kicking up a racket around him. Even thunder doesn't phase him. He sees it as jusr another wonderful oportunity to chase after insects and things. Maybe dog owners should think twice before buying dogs they know are prone to panic attacks. If you don't research the type of breed before you buy the dog, you have yourself to blame...
Mike 1/5/2009 11:13:28 AM
1) Guy Fawkes (around the same time) was criticised as much as Divali. 2) Most people are away on New Years and the lack of response probably because no one there to repsond. 3) You are basically insinuating the anti-fireworks crowd are targeting Hindus and dare I say it you are hinting at racism?
Claire 1/5/2009 11:14:38 AM
Brilliant!!!
A Voice 1/5/2009 11:15:56 AM
I will now add my voice to publically complain about fireworks and loud noises at ANY TIME of the year, regardless of the occasion. I chose not to voice my complaint in the media (at any time) but through my local police station and Fire service. Complaining in the media does not help, no action is taken. Complaints to the police and fire station result in investigations and prosecutions. A much better way to handle the problem.
celery 1/5/2009 11:16:54 AM
There were hardly any fireworks on new years eve? Cerainly not where I live. On Diwali the fireworks went on for days, until LATE at night. Same with Guy Fawkes.
JhbBoykie 1/5/2009 11:20:35 AM
Thanks to a more than welcome thunderstorm, fireworks explosions were few and far between in my area. Our dogs were hardly traumatised compare to the racket during Diwali. By the way, I thought Diwali was the "festival of lights" and not the festival of noisy explosions?
Priscilla 1/5/2009 11:20:48 AM
Not sure if it was because of the weather but we had no fire works on New Year compared to two nights of ongoing big bangs on Diwali. Presume that is why there are fewer complaints.
Big Bad Bob 1/5/2009 11:21:21 AM
Speaking for myself, the issue is not New Years's Eve, Diwali or Guy Fawkes Night. The issue is indiscriminate use of fireworks. This is dangerous and inconsiderate - and not just for pets. Organised firework displays, pre-announced, with a focus on visual beauty are one thing. Morons trying to see who can make the biggest bang are quite another.
VinnyTheSaffer 1/5/2009 11:22:48 AM
I've become tired of trying to change the behaviour of those who want to blow their money up in the sky. I just try to reassure my dog whilst the explosions occur overhead-Agree with you that it should be outlawed entirely, but think it would be a pointless law as our lawless SA society would just ignore it anyway. My own neighbors launched rockets from their backyard, but reporting it to the cops is a waste of time. They rather issue fines to 12 year olds fishing at a local dam without a permit.
Big Bad Bob 1/5/2009 11:23:31 AM
Most people have little idea of what the night is about anyway. Given this country's substantial ethnic Indian population there is more of a justification for Diwali. More generally fireworks used to be pretty, these days they are just noisy. And people tend to be indiscriminate with them, not caring - and often not able to control - where the wretched things land and explode.
xWilus 1/5/2009 11:23:51 AM
Hi, Feeling sorry for yourself I see. You must be living in a very strange area. Because where we live in Pretoria, that just doesn't happen nd we are also dog lovers. We always get them pills for new years eve so that they can relax. We understand the need for celebtration. Most of us have felt the need to shoot fireworks before. Your research that you did must be limited to a small area. And also how did you monitor the complaints ? Doesn't sound very reliable. Try harder.
Dave 1/5/2009 11:23:56 AM
An interesting comment, Sam. However, I suspect your observation is subject to a measure of selection bias. By this I mean that given the socio-economic nature of the news24 users, (and in particular those who actively engage on these pages) it is likely that many of them were on leave and away from their computers over this period, resulting in the low number of comments.
Susan 1/5/2009 11:25:27 AM
This was a hot topic on Cape Talk 567 all day on 31st December and 1st January - rightly so. In Cape Town we have designated areas for fire works yet people persist in setting them off in suburban areas. I've finally come to terms with the fact that there will always be selfish people who could less about the consequences of their actions, so now I appeal to dog owners to be responsible for their pets. I stay at home every New Year to ensure my dog's safey.
Tim 1/5/2009 11:25:47 AM
Sam you seem to be crying foul of religious persecution... First off where is the scientific basis of your estimations? Did you measure the noise levels? Have a look at this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_level_meter, if not your whole letter is factually incorrect and pointless. Secondly every single dog lover I know and it there are many of us, hate fireworks regardless of the religious celebration causing them. Call a spade a spade next time the tact was similar to your method of ‘measuring’ the noise levels .
Badger 1/5/2009 11:25:57 AM
I got home at 19H30 on old years so I could get my dogs in the house and turn on the radio and sit with them when those idiots started with the fireworks. I was over joyed when the heavens opened and it started to rain, putting a damper on all those crackers. Even my dogs said thanks to the heavens.
20 Something yr old white boy 1/5/2009 11:26:14 AM
How do you not know that nobody has but it has not been published, my local paper is loaded with anti firecracker letters in them, and yes it is for new years and not diwali. And how can you say that new years was about 80% more than that of diwali, you are horribly mistaken! But as you said your method used was amaturish and I'm sure 80% incorrect!
TB 1/5/2009 11:30:53 AM
I have 2 Huskies and 2 Worsies and all four are apparantly hearing impaired, because not one of them twiches a musle to the sound of thunder or fireworks. Just lift an ear or two, go out to investigate, see nothing, come back and go back to sleep. Maybe nervous owners breed nervous dogs? (They do say that pets tend to behave like their owners.)
Tim 1/5/2009 11:32:02 AM
Please Andre that has got to be the most short sighted comment I have read on here after the drivel from the Kolobe fan club. I had a dog who became very excited when he heard fire crackers. I have two dogs now, a sharpei who is terrified of fireworks and jack russel who is not phased. I know people with staffies who are not phased by fireworks and people who have staffies that are terrified by them. Its the individual dog, not breed.
Theo 1/5/2009 11:32:24 AM
Well Sam, I think there's another reason for the silence. At around 10pm on new year's eve, a huge storm broke out, in Midrand where I stay and from what I saw on the news, over most of JHB. Just as suddenly as it started, the fireworks stopped. I recorded 70mm rain throughout the night, making me assume it rained for most of of. So would you not agree that people are not complaining due to the fact that there wasn't much fireworks at all? Just a thought.
Kyle Logan 1/5/2009 11:33:42 AM
I'm a dog lover and I hate fireworks at anytime. I sat with my dogs in my house during new years eve and was pleasantly suprise at how little noise there was. Compare that one night... to the 3 days and two nights of NON-STOP fireworks I had to sit through during Diwali! So come now dont be an idiot... one night with the occosional fireworks before 12 and lots after 12 ending at about one(new years) to 3days and two night of non stop fireworks (Diwali)
Karen 1/5/2009 11:34:15 AM
I am against fireworks anytime of year! My main reason being my 2 dogs but also the fire risk esp in summer. And even with designated areas for fireworks you get the odd idiots that have fireworks at home causing distress for animals and neighbours as well, not mentioning the fire risk in a fynbos area! Unfortunately seen a couple of fires started by New Year's fireworks!
Doggie 1/5/2009 11:34:22 AM
In most area's in Gauteng, it rained out, hence lesser fireworks !! I agree, it should be banned !!
Rodney 1/5/2009 11:35:07 AM
I have 2 dogs - one is completely relaxed while the other stresses that he cannot remain still. I have to give him a sedative to relax him. It's nothing to do with breed, Andre.
Raymond Hocknell 1/5/2009 11:35:09 AM
Frankly, I find this compulsion to shoot fireworks infantile and childish. It also costs me a fortune to keep my very skittish dogs drugged up. Fortunately I found out last year that a few well-placed jabs (not as figurative as the author's) kept my neighbourhood firework-free and the effect was still evident this year.
lithium 1/5/2009 11:36:27 AM
... and already you are starting with your racist crap. No wonder we have so many problems in SA.
Ray 1/5/2009 11:36:30 AM
I stay near Heuweloord, Centurion. I can honestly say that the amount of fireworks on New Years was not even 10% compared to the amount of fireworks during Diwali.....
Kyle Logan 1/5/2009 11:37:15 AM
Did you do any research before writing that drible? Dogs of any breed can be scared by loud noise. It depends on a number of factors, not just breed. EG, I have to german shepards (sisters) one if far more affected by the loud noise than the other. One isnt botherd by thunder but is by fireworks. So please think before you post rubish!
Blinkers 1/5/2009 11:38:38 AM
...it rained and there were thunder and lightning and more rain...in the Gauteng metropol at least...wet and fireworks dont go...its not just about the dogs, its generally very disruptive to be woken up (the whole family) by bangs and crashes and yelps of joy! Why the nuance that it is a religious intollerance thing...lets live together in peace dude....
david 1/5/2009 11:39:10 AM
you silly little man. my friend's dog died because of the new years fireworks. He certainly doesn't care whether it was new yars or diwali ... and to animals it matters nothing whether your reasons are religious or childish. Be that as it may ... all fireworks should be banned ... is diwali festival of lights or festival of bangs? Take your fireworks and shove them ... please. Oh and it IS illegal to use them around houses.
Greg 1/5/2009 11:39:30 AM
mike, maybe there is a bit of racism involved here??? well written article Sam!!
RJ 1/5/2009 11:41:40 AM
If you're non hindu,you could take it upon yourself to find out the dates for diwali(from hindu collegues),and then on those nights you could plan to keep safe your pets, then what would you have to complain about? Its being proactive.The dates are more or less the same every year and you know about this event for approx 150yrs that indians are in SA.My feeling is that its just difficult for people to accept things they dont want to know much about and much easier to criticize it.Make the effort
Daniel 1/5/2009 11:42:49 AM
I don't do fireworks and I'm a huge dog lover! But I never complain about fireworks. Whenever Diwali, Guy Fawks or New Years comes around I just put my dog in a room and play some classical music. He remains relaxed and tends to fall asleep the minute I do this. Yes fireworks are traumatising to our animals but instead of complaining (which rarely amounts to any action) take some initiative and look after your dogs.
Alan 1/5/2009 11:43:42 AM
Animal lovers really are a funny bunch trying to prevent the pain and suffering all animals incur as a result of disgusting humans. Irrespective of time of year fireworks should be totally banned and we will continue to campaign for this. Diwali, New Year or Guy Fawkes there really is no need for the use of fireworks. One would be silly to think that some dogs are more prone to panic from fireworks as we have had to rescue all different breeds. BAN fireworks end of story
Joan 1/5/2009 11:44:25 AM
Good day fellow south african. Is this attempt at further division of a nation badly in need of the opposite, well thought out and wise at the present moment, or merely your way of winning an argument whatever the cost? Do we not have enough of this kind of history and resultant evils to try and find a new way. If so dear fellow citizen let us all make this the year when we all try to make the differences in our cultures work to the good of our beloved RSA
Same problem 1/5/2009 11:44:49 AM
I stay next to a house that light up with thousands of Xmas lights in a residential area. It attracts approximately 200 cars per hour from 19h30 to 23h00 and caries on for 21 days plus. The noise these vehicles makes drives my dogs crazy. But to the public it is ok because its done in Xmas spirit and the animals are not important then. It is actually only important if there dogs are affected.
grant 1/5/2009 11:44:55 AM
Not sure where you live.....but Gauteng had a storm of note on New years eve, so there were no fireworks ... hence no complaints.
Big Bad Bob 1/5/2009 11:45:52 AM
There's something I'm missing here I think. If your research (basis unclear) suggests that there was LESS noise at New Year than at Diwali ("noise levels of loud sounding fireworks during News Year's day by my estimations were between 70% and 80% of that experienced during Diwali") then why do you expect MORE complaints?
Mary 1/5/2009 11:46:49 AM
I reported fireworks a few times on old years eve and New Year.First of all i was sent from one department to the next department till i got a number to phone which was wrong.I phoned the original number again and reported it again.I even reported it to the local police station twice and they said go to Pretoria police station. No on ever came out.had to keep the dogs in till it started raining.So no wonder no people did not report anything,cause the police care a stuff anyway.
Hopnop 1/5/2009 11:47:13 AM
..take your dog to a vet...it's deaf..my friend
Achmed the Dead Terrorist 1/5/2009 11:48:10 AM
I am telling you straight out that you are looking to start a racist fight for apparent reason. A vast majority of our country is on Holiday during the New Years celebrations hence the fewer complaints/responses. You are doing nothing more than adding to the racism in this country. Deny that ytou are trying to make this a racist issue. I dare you.
GP 1/5/2009 11:48:13 AM
I get infuriated when ppl only react when it doesn't suite them. I do not celebrate Diwali, but, I am tolerant, as I value anothers religion/culture. This didn't affect most non-hindu's previously, as Diwali was celebrated in the designated Indian areas. This is the new SA, we r living in a diverse society, multi race/religion/culture. When diversity is at your door step, don't scream and kick, embrace it, understand the reasons. If you cannot embrace diversity, maybe democracy is not 4 u!
Pop Idol 1/5/2009 11:50:13 AM
Firworks should be BANNED.Only the local municipality or an entertainment firm should have access to fireworks and only they should be allowed to set off fireworks.....I dont give a BEEP about Indian culture and rights,go set off fireworks in your own freakin country which is India...Im a Coloured,,,this is MY fatherland.
Achmed the Dead Terrorist 1/5/2009 11:54:52 AM
You response proves what a total lack of understanding you have about Dogs. I am a dog lover myself and I have 2 dogs. It is not a breed of dog that is prone to panick attacks or not prone but rather it is the nature of that particular dog and I can prove that.
Stryder 1/5/2009 11:55:13 AM
My observation is that there was by far less noise over New Years Eve than over DIwali. Not sure wh, but that could be why there are fewer complaints.
AJ 1/5/2009 11:56:00 AM
It was pissing with rain, therefore much less fireworks, the issue had, as you mentioned, been discussed before and everyone still has their point of view. It is not a conspiracy against Indians and Diwali as you would LOVE to believe...sigh..
Grow up ... don't you know 1/5/2009 11:56:21 AM
You should know by now that noise has always been an issue depending on the transgressor --
hindu 1/5/2009 11:56:22 AM
I think the only ppl who have the right to complain about fireworks affecting dogs are VEGETARIANS.. all the meat eaters dont have to worry about their dogs...... And for the guys who wonder why we burst fireworks for a whole is because diwali is not just 1 day.. its a whole week..
The Prophet 1/5/2009 11:58:11 AM
I switch my lights on in the evening - no sound. I switch the lava lamp in my lounge on - no sound. The neons inside my pc goes on - no sound. The streetlights goes on - no sound. Go to a club - ask the DJ if there must be sound to switch on dancefloor lights? So is Divali a festival of light or another festival we hijacked to make us much noise as possible. Btw - my point on fireworks - ban them
KOBUS 1/5/2009 11:58:27 AM
Boo hoo, people being nasty to Hindus - what is the world coming to! Grow up. You make a point that "celebrating your religion in any way you like" is a constitutional right. It is in fact not true. All rights are in contestation with each other, and there are boundaries. You just don't agree that some people can be of the opinion that it is not necessary to make lots of noise in order for someone to please their "god".
Elizabeth 1/5/2009 11:58:58 AM
Curious: where does the celebration of Diwali come from? Must be a few hundred years old, right? So when it started, did they use loud fireworks? Noisy fireworks should be banned, especially in residential areas. Use the bright light ones for festivals, etc, in designated areas, away from residential areas. Our cat is terrified of thunder and fireworks!
AJ 1/5/2009 12:00:05 PM
if people followed the law it would not matter what breed of dog you select. Your suggestion to get rid of all dogs and replace them with Siberian Husky's to avoid damage from people knowingly breaking the law sounds a little dof dont you think?
JZ 1/5/2009 12:01:28 PM
During this festive period people do not have the time to log onto the internet to complain or they are just too pissed to bother. During Diwali everyone is at work and people waste their companies time and money complaining about these things. The solution is to make Diwali a public holiday so everyone is on holiday so they wouldn't bother to complain and waste their own internet time
Fiona Hickman 1/5/2009 12:03:24 PM
We have 2 Siberian Huskies, and the male is terrified of fireworks - he actually climbed an 8 foot gate and ran away on New Year's Eve! We were lucky to find him 3 days later at a local vet, but have been told we must start drugging him to keep him calm when it is Diwali etc. This infuriates me as fireworks are supposedly illegal, but because the law is completely ignored, dog owners that care about their animals are forced to resort to drugging them! Send me a petition - I will sign it!
Fiona Hickman 1/5/2009 12:03:54 PM
We have 2 Siberian Huskies, and the male is terrified of fireworks - he actually climbed an 8 foot gate and ran away on New Year's Eve! We were lucky to find him 3 days later at a local vet, but have been told we must start drugging him to keep him calm when it is Diwali etc. This infuriates me as fireworks are supposedly illegal, but because the law is completely ignored, dog owners that care about their animals are forced to resort to drugging them! Send me a petition - I will sign it!
Ashley 1/5/2009 12:05:32 PM
I also agree that during Diwali there is more complaints and for some reason the complaints are less around guyfawkes and even less around new years. It is more interesting and lets face it that...during diwali more whites complain and during guy fawkes & new years when more whites celebrate the occasion there are fewer complaints :) funny ain't it.Get your pets inoculated before these occasions(thats what I do) and stop complaining - Ashley
Just M 1/5/2009 12:07:17 PM
How many people lost fingers, hands or eyes this year due to fireworks? And how about the children who light their own fireworks because they saw Daddy do it?
Shaun 1/5/2009 12:07:49 PM
Man, I would rather you ban GOSPEL MUSIC than ban fireworks, at least I'm only exposed to that once a year and not every...single...sunday morning...just remember you "fireworx haters" when you brought over the cotton pickers, you brought the fireworks too...
Anon 1/5/2009 12:10:36 PM
we heard hardly any fireworks due to the weather and to me it sounds like you are hinting towards being racist as you keep bringing up Diwali ( which the fire works go on for days until late ) new year and guy folks are only for a short while and I am a dog owner. Personally with regards to Diwali which you keep bringing up so i can only assume you are of indian origin and your neighbours with dogs complained due to the fact you set off fireworks(probably for days)
Pity 1/5/2009 12:10:57 PM
I said the same in the discussions over the Diwali article. Must we also ban thunder???
Dirty Frank 1/5/2009 12:11:04 PM
What is the fascination with making things go Ka-BOOM? Or the pretty lights? Is it your religion? Or do you get a kick out of feeling you are the center of attention, if only for a few seconds? Either way, it says much about your IQ.
Dog Lover 1/5/2009 12:12:37 PM
My gripe is that the loud bangs are not only restricted to new years but any time during this 4 day weekend we have just had any time of the day or night. try and ask the persons to stop and you are in hot water. call the cops and wait, wait 20 min for them to pick up the phone. Lets ban all fire works my ears and that of my dog can not handle it.
MasterMind 1/5/2009 12:12:56 PM
I am sorry to say it Sam, but you are hinting at racial and preferencial complaining against your culture - NOT - get over yourself and realise that half of the people are away at New Year and I for 1 don't traipse my laptop to a holiday destination - how sad !!!!!
Wikus 1/5/2009 12:19:16 PM
So what are you saying? Should I keep my dogs drugged up for 3 days straight? If they want to have a festival of lights they should light candles or buy flashlights, maybe have a huge rave party. It's called consideration... I'm for a ban of fireworks all together.
MikeT 1/5/2009 12:20:50 PM
it has nothing to do with dogs or religious rights. get over it.
Smee 1/5/2009 12:24:19 PM
It is clear some of the comments made, were made by people that are losing the plot. This is not a racist issue, if someone has the need to call it that, there are deeper feelings involved from that side. it just so happened that the examples brought up denote a celebration of different cultures. So take that and shove it up your racist! As for dogs, i am a dog lover as well, remember we are bringing animals into human area's and not the other way around, the pet owner should cater for pet
marlize 1/5/2009 12:26:49 PM
The law on fireworks say that fireworks is not allowed in buildup areas without a permit. Now we have a few good men in our area that went to talk to the SAP, and they ask these good men (all animal lovers) to please take a video of this people and then it will be handled with a fine. The reason the SAP can not react on the complaints those evenings is that they are very busy with other life threthning problems.
Zaid 1/5/2009 12:27:27 PM
did a topic on fireworks and dog lovers degenerate into racism? Are we still so immature that we still keep playing the racism card? GROW UP PEOPLE!
KOBUS 1/5/2009 12:30:32 PM
I think I am going to start a religion where there is a "Festival of Walking Down the Street and Ringing Everyone's Doorbells and Knocking on the Doors Late At Night". Lets see what the response is there. It's not doing any harm, is it? Just inconveniencing a few people so I can follow my tradition. When will people realise that just because something has been done for thousands of years, it's not neccesarily a GOOD thing to keep doing?
Dan 1/5/2009 12:30:34 PM
People are mixing religious intolerance with racial bias. You don't have to be of a specific race to belong to a any religion.
LM 1/5/2009 12:31:25 PM
I have two labradors. One is just like your husky and couldn't care if a gun went off, whilst the other one gets so petrified that I often think he is going to have a heart attack. I have been involved in the dog training world for over 3 years and can tell you with the greatest confidence that you don't have a clue what you're talking about. There are numerous husky's in our training school that are worse than my dog!
Andre 1/5/2009 12:31:37 PM
I have found that a lot less fireworks have been fired on New Years eve, than on Diwali (at least in my neighberhood). The reason was probably due to a heavy downpour of rain on New years'. The second reason for less fireworks on New Year is that people will more easily disobey laws and other people's respect due to "religious reasons". By the way, the festival of lights is about lights and not about bangs. It started off with candles!
JCBoots 1/5/2009 12:35:29 PM
The idiot behind me was setting of what sounded like bombs at random times of the day and night until the 3rd. I called the Metro Police three times, but nothing happened. There was an article on News24 about how proud the police/metro police was about the tons of fireworks they confiscated on the 30th or 31st. What the hell difference does that make? Most had allready done their fireworks shopping by then.
shaun 1/5/2009 12:38:01 PM
Sorry, but YOU ARE an idiot, not YOUR an idiot...idiot!
Kien 1/5/2009 12:39:05 PM
Why on earth was this posted? What on earth are you trying to get at? I agree with most posts......you are attempting to incite hatred here, and that is definitely unconstitutional.
Filemon 1/5/2009 12:41:10 PM
I stay at home on Fireworks nights - Guyfox, New Year, Season opening (P.E.) and put my dogs in the courtyard with my ghettoblaster playing loud boeremusic and my dogs do not hear the crackers going off. Petowners must do their bit but ban fireworks anyway
not amused 1/5/2009 12:46:27 PM
oh please, try and compare oranges with oranges. The Diwali fireworks went on in my neighbourhood for around a week long every night. New Years eve is one night. On this particular new years God in all his kindness spared his 4 legged children grief and opened the heavens with a great downpour of rain all over johannesburg. This put a halt to the same people scaring animals over Diwali maiing a pointless racket on new years. Catch a wake up mr naiker
Ginger 1/5/2009 12:46:30 PM
Except sparklers which don't do much - fireworks should not be available to the public. For religious and annual events - they should be controlled by pyrotechnics at designated venues. This ensures safety and also if there is a big event in your area you know you need to put your pets inside. I personally find the cats react worse than the dogs but I always stay home with them during firework times. And I thank mother nature each time one gets rained out :)
malcolmx 1/5/2009 12:49:41 PM
Thats why the loud banging doesn't effect them. Living in Durbs, they are well know for putting their car music centres,"normall more expensive than their cars", to such high volumes, the panels shake. They cant help it. New years fireworks last about half an hour tops. Divali lasts for days even after its finished.
Ryan Pillay 1/5/2009 12:49:59 PM
I agree with you, SAm BAN the noisey loud fireworks with heavy fines for anyone transgressing Allow those that do not make any lord noises Ryan
Tuffy 1/5/2009 12:50:08 PM
Indeed. Most bizarre is that the writer manages to find a religious angle to waffle on about. I for one find it baffling that there are humans amongst us who just could not give a continental and have absolutely no remorse about the suffering they inflict on animals. I wish these people can see the one of my three dogs that enters into an absolute distressed state when the fireworks commence - anytime of the year. Calming drugs don't help and just causes the dog to vomit. It is said a persons personality can be judged by the treatment of, interaction with and kindness to (or not) animals. Personally I?d like to shove a red-hot firework where the sun doesn?t shine to al the fireworks addicts if only I wouldn?t end up in jail myself.
Jonas 1/5/2009 12:50:58 PM
Celebrate Diwali by switching on all the lights in your house, if that?s not enough, buy some more! It's a festival of lights, not noise. Why people celebrate Guy Fawkes is beyond me! People who spend their money on fireworks are absolute morons. Feed the poor or donate the money to the SPCA. Next time, I'm going to retaliate by blowing up the culprit?s house! I'm sick of people who think that their rights are more important than mine.
Nish 1/5/2009 12:51:23 PM
I'm reading your comments on cruelty to animals and racism etc. etc. etc. You hippocratic bunch! One thing though, did you people enjoy your XMAS Turkey? Steak? Boerewors? hmmm i wonder which vegetable that came from? Fiona, heres a petition for you, how about we ban eating meat?
Corne Oosthuizen 1/5/2009 12:52:17 PM
Last year I lost my dear friend a poodle due to fireworks. This year I decided to drug my other dogs to spare them the stress. Is this not as cruel?? During the festival of lights it is not as bad as new year but my overall feel still remains that fireworks should be banned... I just wish our goverment would takes this seriously!!
Taxi Boss 1/5/2009 12:53:53 PM
lady I have to admit, this type of post will always turn into some racial debate. Why not leave the race out of it? Sadly Sam, you started it by specifically indicating Diwali / Dipavali in your post. My wife and I agree, ban fireworks completely. Whether it be Diwali, New Year, Guy Fawks, ban it all!!
Kick Ass 1/5/2009 12:57:20 PM
I have had it with fireworks. My poor dogs. I feel so sorry for them. from the 23 December 2008 just fireworks in the area I stay. (Doonheights Amanzimtoti) If it is not the one dude then it is the other dude. On old years eve up to 03h00 by flippin naugher just kept on letting these big bangs off, and phoning the cops does not help. It takes them a week to anser the phone and then it says "but the people are happy" I dont flippen care. Just BANN the stuff
Adam 1/5/2009 12:58:02 PM
I think your hearing must be going as, if you had actually listened to radio (like 702 and Highveld) you would have heard dog lovers calling in and talking about the problems they have with fireworks. Many when asked what there plans were said "staying at home and looking after the dogs" check your hearing and you would have noticed that the lights in the sky @ new years was followed by THUNDER, hence lightning and not fireworks.
Tuffy 1/5/2009 12:59:15 PM
Please elaborate? I'd like to achieve that myself. My festivities are always spoilt having to look after terrified dogs. I have to cover my koi pond to prevent fizzled-out fireworks landing in the pond and poisoning my fish. I worry that my lapa will burn down from smouldering burnt out fireworks that may land there, etc etc etc. Maybe a few Molotov cocktails will make a point?
Piet Parra 1/5/2009 1:01:42 PM
You dumb ass! Did you research the natural habitat of your Siberian Husky before you purchased it? Did you know that they are supposed to live in an icy climate? And here you are in sunny South Africa with your arctic breed of dog? The poor dog is suffering during summer... move to Canada for heaven's sake!!
Leonie 1/5/2009 1:06:11 PM
Like many others, I take it that the response was less because of the festive season. Many of us Dog Lovers normally make a effort to ensure that our pets are well looked after and safe this time of the year especially because of the fireworks. I think fireworks should be banned totally as in SA we don't seem to have any law abiding citizens. Designated places were named for people who wished to use fireworks, but as per norm very few people obeyed. How can we get a petition going????
Annie 1/5/2009 1:06:33 PM
Firstly, Inoculation does not help when animals are stressed by fireworks, tranquilising your animals does. I feel fireworks should be banned, not only for animals' sake, but also for the sake of special needs kids (autism) brain damaged people etc who don't understand the noise. Ever thought about them ?
Tara 1/5/2009 1:09:01 PM
My neighbour's son 5-year old lost 2 fingers over New Year because his idiot cousin lit one and told him to hold it. He's maimed for life. My dogs go through intense terror EVERY TIME fireworks go off. A family 3 doors down lets off fireworks almost every weekend and screams at anybody that goes and asks them to stop. On New Years Eve, the 3 houses around them sprayed them with the garden hoses and told them it would happen every time from now on..... GO FOR IT.
Michael 1/5/2009 1:11:22 PM
Imagine that! Siberian huskies aren't phased by fireworks! None of them! Because it's genetics...right? Use that grey matter Andre, it has nothing to do with their breed, some breeds are jumpier than others, but that's no guarantee. Most dogs don't like fireworks Andre, their hearing is more sensitive than a person's, and I know people who get jumpy around fireworks.
Olive 1/5/2009 1:11:28 PM
I am in total agreement that fireworks should be banned at all times. The only reason not so many complaints this year - IT WAS POURING WITH RAIN AND MUCH LIGHTENING AND THUNDER.
William 1/5/2009 1:14:35 PM
I think Mr. Naiker is shovelling the wrong type of doggy do, in fact it smell a bit like crap to me.
Leonie 1/5/2009 1:15:00 PM
Like everything else in SA it all comes down to race or non law abiding citizens.... what a pity that animals have to suffer for such idiots!!!!! I support a petition for the ban of fireworks anyday and Sam if you have nothing better to talk about i suggest you keep quiet.....
Truth 1/5/2009 1:15:51 PM
Learn how to spell, before you display your stupidity to the world...KOBUS,I love the stupidity of religious types like you. I bet you still think your "god" created the world in 7 days! My point is, do not belittle another persons religion or beliefs! We have enough bull@#%$ in this country, I dont see why we need to add religious intolerance to the mix!
amandzing 1/5/2009 1:16:50 PM
Festival of LIGHT! not festival of ear splitting bangs. Guy fawkes has nothing to do with South Africa, ban all fireworks in this country!
Smee 1/5/2009 1:17:33 PM
to malcolmx, its people like you that instill racial and cultural bias, by saying wht you did, hard at hearing my A@@. A chop like you should be sedated
Jorg Dietrich 1/5/2009 1:22:15 PM
living in a mixed suburb can be difficult and belong to group of animalowners.i complain use to complain when 200 hindus gather in the street some of them don't live in the suburb.i still complain when 2 hindufamilies compete with eachother who has the loudest and noisiest fireworks in the neighborhood.Neither of them have cat's or dog's,both hide behind great electric fences. I also report the careless owners of animals when they leave there dogs and cat's alone for the holiday's.
Nuxxy 1/5/2009 1:22:50 PM
Being a dog lover doesn't mean loving your dog. It means loving all dogs. The fact that any dogs, regardless of who their owner is, are distressed by fireworks should be anough for any *real* dog lover to be opposed to fireworks. If there must be fireworks, leave it to the professionals, over a lake or the sea or a non-residential area.
JR 1/5/2009 1:23:09 PM
Why is it that people automatically jump on the race card in this country? Good grief people, has any of you loud mouth obnoxious white folk (yes I am white) ever done some research into diwali? Probably not, why? Is it beneath you? Grow up and face the facts. As whites we think the world revolves around us and we want everything our way! Idiots all of you, religion remains religion go pray for your poor dogs, you bought them after all! YOU are the cause that SA still has all the racist crap!
Michael 1/5/2009 1:23:54 PM
As someone pointed out, as I would have but didn't due to space constraints, your dog may not be jumpy, but it's not exactly suited to our climate. 32 degree heat must be hell for a Husky, these are dogs that are comfortable sleeping outdoors in icy conditions. You probably got it just because they're beautiful dogs, and didn't give it any more thought. You deserve to be strung up by your soft and squishies.
Sean 1/5/2009 1:27:15 PM
There must be law-enforcement(what's that?)where you live.Even a thunderstorm,which started at about 11 pm didn't deter the idiotic,low IQ sub-human species of their urge to let-off non-colorfull fireworks,which sound like grenades going off.After numerous phonecalls to the local police and even an attempt at 10111,I eventually gave-up,as there was no response to complaints. Hang-on...I know what the problem is,this is South Africa...there is no law enforcement!!!
sagren 1/5/2009 1:30:06 PM
Looks like you started some big bangs on this website....can you hear the objectors crawling out of their crypts.
Indian animal lover 1/5/2009 1:32:37 PM
What possessed you to write something so childish? I celebrate Diwali and Dec 31 and agree that fireworks are bad etc for animals. We should all take extra responsibility for our furry friends over these periods but c'mon hasn't SA got other problems that need to be resolved. Your article is sprinkled with a tinge of hate speech so please stop enciting racism by using animals and fireworks as cover.
30 Ssomething yr old Indian boy... 1/5/2009 1:35:24 PM
People, whether it is Guy Fawkes, New Years, The world Cup, Christmas or Diwali, fireworks are bound to be lit. I have to beautiful Golden Retrievers and live in Centurion and wouldn't want them harmed, so instead of meaningless complaining, a visit to the vet for some sedatives ensures that my dogs are sound asleep and not affected. This isn't an issue about racism or which cultural / ethnic group lights the most fireworks, it's about the animals. Take care of them and wait for the ban.
Suzz 1/5/2009 1:36:01 PM
The fireworks this new years were a lot less than Diwali this year. It also rained where we stay, (which I prayed for the whole week) so the noise was much less. But the indian community in Laudium (who already had their time for shooting the rubbish at Diwali) was still shooting at new year. So what religion were they practising at new year that they so solemly fight for? Just another excuse to shoot fireworks and crackers. Ban the whole lot and bring in strict fines for law breakers!!!
The Oracle 1/5/2009 1:36:33 PM
I am a animal lover but people must stop treating animals like humans. A few fireworks won't kill them!! Rather spend your extra energy to help improve the lives of peopele who live in poverty!!
dans an idiot 1/5/2009 1:36:45 PM
The only petition I'll sign is one that forces you to look up the meaning of hippocratic.
Lejane 1/5/2009 1:39:41 PM
As Editor of Animal Activist Network News, the issue is at the forefront of most of our readers minds more than once or twice a year, I can tell you that. It's only at those times of the year that the mainstream media takes notice though as it makes for news. And we don't fight against it because of our animals that we care for, but for those that are stray and feral and who don't have responsible owners and who are terrified out of their wits with no places of safety. Ban Fireworks.
Jonas 1/5/2009 1:40:41 PM
There is only one thing worse than a moron shooting fireworks, and that is a vegetable eating moron shooting fireworks.
Andrew 1/5/2009 1:45:07 PM
We have a dog that was unaffected by the noise of fireworks and storms, until his companion died. He then became extremely noise shy, so your assertion that it's down to breed - and others who say it's down to owners - is utter rubbish! If you were a dog lover, you'd realise that fireworks are harmful, period. Just because your dogs aren't affected it doesn't mean other people's dogs aren't
JB 1/5/2009 1:50:22 PM
Look what happend in that club in Bangkok!!!
Lejane 1/5/2009 1:50:47 PM
There is already a petition going at this address http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/ban-fireworks-in-south-africa Please do sign.
Chris 1/5/2009 1:50:59 PM
5 days a year dogs are subject to the noise. Owners know it and as some said here, they keep their dogs indoors and care for them.Wonderful, but what about the other 360 days a year that you subject your neighbours to the noise of your dogs barking?
holy Smokes 1/5/2009 1:51:47 PM
If fireworks is banned because its torturing the dog... than BAN MEAT cos its KILLING THE COWS
Nish 1/5/2009 1:55:25 PM
My thousand Apologies, you are right, it should read "you bunch of Hippocrates". Hows that, is that kosher for you?
Jack 1/5/2009 1:57:45 PM
What about your dogs that bark the whole night and disturb the neighbors? They disturb the peace in the neighborhood. And all you meat-eaters have no right to complain about fireworks. You kill chickens, cows, sheep, fish etc and eat them but you have the nerve to complain that fireworks scare your dogs!!!!
Jonas 1/5/2009 1:59:04 PM
Is it your superior knowledge of Diwali that has made you so emotional? As for loud mouth obnoxious white folk, speak only for you, fool. Don't generalise and don't speak on behalf of other people. It seems that you need prayer more than what my dogs do! The Oracle - A few fireworks might not kill them but it may kill you!!
Jonas 1/5/2009 2:00:26 PM
There is only one thing worse than a moron shooting fireworks, and that is a vegetable eating moron shooting fireworks.
Jack 1/5/2009 2:02:49 PM
All meat-eaters have no right to complain about fireworks. You kill chickens, cows, sheep, fish etc and eat them but yet you have the nerve to complain about fireworks scaring your dogs. YOU guys are more dangerous to animals than fireworks.
Nish 1/5/2009 2:03:28 PM
so you whish to blow up the culprits! i can understand why "you people" are hated so much. I'm sick of your kind trying to take away our rights!!! You are right, maybe it is time to retaliate!
Piet Parra 1/5/2009 2:04:50 PM
At least the cows get killed in a humane way. Dogs dont get tortured in a humane way. Ban Fireworks! Finish and klaar...
Smee 1/5/2009 2:15:58 PM
Has JR hit a soft spot on you, is that why you are so obnoxious, you slate a man for having the guts to stand up to someone like yourself, but still want to have a crappy opinion to dish out, don't slate the man educate yourself as he has done, or is reading not one of your strong points.
IanD 1/5/2009 2:16:53 PM
Why dont you intolerant people exercise your right to move! Go home to the Orange Free State! I certainly dont hear you complaining about the way animals are slaughtered every day. Yet you feast on their pain and death... well pointed out Nish! and I am very interested to know how many of you actually make an effort to help a fellow human (and please dont start a thread on how you saved up a whole year just to buy a casual day sticker)
Shaun 1/5/2009 2:20:12 PM
did you just day that its okay to kill, as long as its humane?
Jonas 1/5/2009 2:21:34 PM
Who exactly are "you people"? And what makes you think that your rights are more important than mine? As for retaliation, not if I get to you first buddy!
holy Smokes 1/5/2009 2:23:26 PM
there is no humane way of killing. Killing cows is not humane. BAN MEAT! Finish and Klaar...
Big Bad Bob 1/5/2009 2:28:21 PM
Diwali is celebrated by Hindus, Seikhs and Bhuddists. It's probably millenia old as at least two of those faiths predate christianity by several centuries. Fireworks seem to have appeared in China around 1000 and were bought to Europe around 1300. Given India's proximity to China it's likely that fireworks have been part of Diwali for many centuries, and certainly would have been part of the tradition for Indian people in this country when they arrived in this country.
Truth 1/5/2009 2:29:09 PM
I couldnt agree with you more. I don't understand how these self righteous dog lovers can complain for a few days of inconvenience a year when everyone has to put up with yapping dogs for the whole year!
Marcel 1/5/2009 2:32:44 PM
Weird, when I was a kid, not so long ago, there was hardly any fuss made over fireworks at any time. Were there far fewer people using them a few years ago, or are we just becoming fussy over everything. I used em as a kid, amazingly I'm still alive, how can I now condem them?
Dog Lover 1/5/2009 2:33:51 PM
It is ILLEGAL to set-off fireworks in a residential area (end of story), in Pretoria anyway, go read up on Tshwane's website regarding firework by-laws. The writer of this article is just a sour grape...
Tuffy 1/5/2009 2:41:05 PM
Firstly, there is a massive difference between irritation and terror. Does an irritating dog-bark fill you with terror? Have you ever been filled with terror, like when you are being high jacked and a gun is shoved against your child's head, or your own? Consider the terror-filled dog's fear. As to eating certain animals - poor argument. Why do you think dog-eating in RSA is unlawful? Dogs are pets, companions. Sheep and chickens are not. Ever seen a chicken return a ball you throw? Stupid vegetarian argument. Consider a blind person being led by a guide dog and a sudden fireworks cause the dog to take a sudden run and drag the blind person in front of a speeding truck?
TB 1/5/2009 2:42:22 PM
Huskies shed their fur in spring, before summer months and all that remains are their normal dog hair until winter approach. Why don't you do some propper research before making your name parra?
Phelan 1/5/2009 2:44:11 PM
Diwali or New Years. Fireworks should be banned outright. I have not thought about it much before you mentioned it, but I agree. Many more people complained about the noise around on Duwali. Those same people fired off fireworks on New Years. Shame on them for the double standards!!
Manipulated 1/5/2009 2:49:28 PM
My aren't we a manipulated bunch - Take two passionate opposites & turn them against each other & it turns from fireworks to vegetarians. I agree with what ppl have said about festival of lights & not noise. As a dog lover,(& incidently a veggie), nobody would be happy with me if I didn't clean up after my dog messed. It's about consideration 4 both sides. After 3days of fireworks, I'm shell shocked never mind my dogs!!
Jonas 1/5/2009 2:50:09 PM
Another comment by another idiot. Is there any hope!!!???
Nel 1/5/2009 3:07:45 PM
Maybe the usual "complainers" are still on holiday? I was very surprised & quite happy that we only had 1 neighbour who had fireworks this year - & there were only 3/4 big bangs! Admittedly, the dogs still had a few frantic rushes to their kennels, but lots better than last year, when they tried to claw their way inside the house & under the beds! Ever seen a Rottie try to get under a bed with a base?
L Savage 1/5/2009 3:23:54 PM
Judging by the overwhelming number of responses here, most people (and especially dog lovers) are upset by fireworks regardless of whether it is Diwali or New Year - which pretty blows away your theory. As for my opinion on the matter, no "right" (or rite) should infringe upon the rights of others. The use of fireworks does disturb other people and pets, and as such it needs to be regulated to ensure it is handled reasonably. Given the manner in which some inconsiderate people abuse the rights of others with their fireworks, the only solution is a ban on fireworks, with the exception of specific instances which require permits.
Fanie Gerber 1/5/2009 3:46:24 PM
Good grief man - they are not legal anytime anywhere Jonas I am with you Brother....................nish and your compatriots...getting a bit racist aren't we.
CC 1/5/2009 4:07:49 PM
Dankie tog cape town kid is still on holiday!! He would have brought in the apartheid regime!! ITS AL THEIR FAULT!!
Elizabeth 1/5/2009 4:39:09 PM
Yum!!! I can't wait for my yummy piece of steak tonight! So when last have you seen a cow killed for the meat? How do you think they get killed? Please explain why you see it as bad. So you think it's wrong to eat meat but okay to scare a dog/cat senseless with fireworks?
R G Mugabe 1/5/2009 5:05:43 PM
Should come to Zimbabwe for your cracker festivities. There are no longer any dogs or cats left here to scare and none of the telephones work so nobody can call the police and tell on you. Also when the internet works most people are too busy tring to get visas to leave here so there will be no cross letters posted on the net.
Maggie 1/5/2009 5:14:22 PM
every year fire works go on for days before and for days after they are meant to and I have never seen any policing of the situation. This goes for any celebration. BAN FIREWORKS - THEY IRRITATE, INJURE & KILL.
Ginger 1/5/2009 5:21:15 PM
In an uncontrolled environment they do untold damage. They not only stress out the animals and alienate your neighbours. They are often mishandled and many accidents and fires occur. Quite honestly the general public is rather irresponsible with fireworks. They are much better off organized and centralized. Until South Africans learn to be sensible and considerate they should not be able to purchase them. Maybe the festival of lights would be safer with the bulk being a laser light show.
JK 1/5/2009 5:39:49 PM
if I thought it would make a difference. Never mind the dogs, what about people with children/babies? On New Years Eve my 4 year old only fell asleep at 3am as there was a loaud bang every time he started to doze off. That's on top of my poor dogs being scared of both the fireworks and the thunder! And then some blinking idiot has been shooting off fireworks every night since...One night I can cope with, 5 in a row is a bit much!

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