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Stats SA - very poor form 21/07/2008 09:19
Nicely explained Mr.Twine - while a lot was made of the inflation rate being higher than it is...inflation is still rising and nobody can dispute that. The problem here is not wrong calculations, but calculations that should have been employed being brought in too late...thanks for that Stats SA - do your damn job, and stop wasting tax payers money - you're stuffing with people's livelihoods when things like the results of the 2005/06 houshold income survey are not instituted in time!!! - Over-and-out |
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Twine totally twisted 21/07/2008 09:32
Tony Twine I have lost respect for your analystical abilities. Your comment to the question is thoughtless in the extreme.
"Q.Have consumers been punished?
A. Perhaps, but perhaps not. For instance, interest rates may have risen higher and for longer than would otherwise have been the judgment of the Reserve Bank, but this would have been more than offset by higher than "fair" wage increases, because of the contribution of CPIX inflation to so many wage adjustment calculations."
I would like to ask you
What about the unemployed, those not in government job, those in businesses suffering because of an extreme slow down in the economy etc. etc.
You sir, sound like a complacent fool of the greatest magnitude. - Bokfan |
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Inflation miscalculated? 21/07/2008 09:39
Very informative article but one question that is not answered - the about 30 000 households in the annual survey - from which salary level do they come and if from all - how were they spread across the salary spectrum? A low income household's petrol to salary ratio may be different than that of a high income because getting to work may cost similar amounts. The accuracy of any statistics is amongst others dependent on the correct source and the use of that source. - rw |
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Basket 21/07/2008 11:14
Miscalculated - YES!
I am sure any South African's inflation rate is closer to 20%.
Mine is 24% on my personal basket.
The current basket is not reflecting the truth! - Ruben |
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Wrong ??? 21/07/2008 11:56
Please, even I who do not work or deal with Stats Sa , know that they have planned this according to a precise schedule for the last three years. They are not "late" in their implementation. New weights in the basket will definitely change the levels in the indices. Growth in the index levels are almost the same, indicating underlying inflation. For once Stats SA is not to blame, but the ignorance of these typical over critical opportunistic idiots out there is getting to me. - Nothing wrong |
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STATSA the political fall guy? 21/07/2008 12:18
Good article. The question is to which extend STATSSA is being used by the ruling party as a fall guy to set them up for the next election.
Public servants got 10.5% and most unions negotiated something similar. In Feb 09 inflation drops to 8% - just in time. Government thus "added " a 2% real increase in income to people while binging inflation "nder control". Hows that for election planning. - Carel |
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Suspicious 21/07/2008 13:25
Is it just me or has the timing of this been engineered in order to show a "reduction" in inflation just in time for the elections next year? - Alan |
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Nothing Wrong 21/07/2008 14:37
It might be because StatsSA intentionally delayed the implementation of the weighting and still use the 2000 basket. Doing that is not correct and hence they are to blame. It is silly to say they are blameless when they are using 2000 weights in 2008 when standards call for a 5 yearly review - LvH |
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Alan 21/07/2008 14:39
Odd then that Tito Mboweni (a government employee) fought hard to malign Investec. also very interesting that Investec has no link to the ANC and the ANC is on record just last week saying they will maintain inflation targetting.
Some conspiracy theories often show the level of intellect of those that perpetuate them. - L van Heerden |
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Survey 21/07/2008 14:43
I agree with Twine's explanation.But there's a lot of "devil in the detail", which he didnt get to. The nub of his rationale about credit growth and M3 money supply is critical. CPI is a model, and the relnx between interest rates and CPIX is not direct. Back to the survey. To be valid there are stats rules to follow. Inflation varies with income level, so stratification occurs in the stats. When this happens, one consolidated number is not a great metric, esp with big group income differences. - Jack |
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