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Mbeki: Crime not out of hand
16/01/2007 01:06
Mr President you must be joking right? If you're not it's maybe because you're never in SA to know what's realy going on there!! My skin crawls everytime I read news 24, people are being killed and raped in their own homes, shot dead in their driveways, 4 year olds are being kicked in their stomachs if they plead with their attackers to please dont kill me!! You call yourself a president, NO Mr President a real pesident takes care of his country. If you were one you would've noticed the WAR IN SA! - Margie |
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Crime not out of Hand
16/01/2007 01:51
I live in the US , recently it was reported by the Iraqi government that 16 000 civilians were killed in Iraq in 2006 ( maybe under reported). Recently in news24 the official murder toll in SA was 16 528. One country is in the middle of a war ( civil) and the other is a peaceful and vibrant economy. So who is at war? One common thread to all of the killing is poverty, there is a long term solution to this. - patrick |
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Mbeki
16/01/2007 04:00
I agree with Mbeki. SA's biggest problem is the negaitivity of its people & press. In Aus (my temp home for 3 yrs) people believe they live in the lucky country & talk about this non-stop. They support goverment, yet the country has many faults. In SA people continually look for faults rather than acknowledging the good that's been done too. I can't wait to get home as the grass is not greener on the other side. SA's should aim for solutions not just talk about the bad. - Maree |
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Mbeki implies crime is controllable
16/01/2007 06:36
By saying crime is not out of control then President Mbeki implies it is controllable. If controllable then why all the crime. There are numerous reasons and types of crime. Levels of violent crime in our country may suggest that some criminal elements are still fighting the war against apartheid which is tantamount to terrorism. This then spills over onto the elite rich coloured and black community who are seen to be part of the "enemy". The reasons for crime need to be studied. - Bradley Flett |
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Mbeki
16/01/2007 06:43
What planet(toid) is he from ?? Pluto ? - Tony |
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Crime is under control...
16/01/2007 06:51
I think a good measure of crime being under control would be when a newspaper can report all the crime that happened the previous day, and still have space for the regular columns and articles of interest. I somehow don't think we're there yet. As for personal wealth accumulation, we all want to retire one day. How do you do that without accumulating wealth? There is no social support structure for pensioners, not for me anyway. Around 1% of people can afford to retire, what do you say to that? - Clive |
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Mbeki: Crime not out of hand????
16/01/2007 06:52
Oh lovely, that's from our leader - the guy that's supposed to know more about what's going on in this country than anybody.
Sad day today, as I lost all confidence in him, his office and the government - the little I had left.
In my opinion, that's an idiotic statement, and I feel insulted that he would just go and underestimate everybody's intelligence like this.
I'm suddenly clearly reminded of a similar idiotic statement in th past - "HIV does not cause AIDS". Slice of history anyone? - J Cilliers |
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"Crime not out of control"
16/01/2007 07:21
If Mr Mbeki spent more time in his own country instead of globe-hopping, he might get the real picture about crime. He must talk to the people in the street and then he can see how silly his statement is. - Ralph Long |
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yeah right!
16/01/2007 07:22
its easy to say crime is not out of control if you have armed bodygaurds around you 24/7 - mark |
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Crime not out of hand!
16/01/2007 07:26
I fully aggree with Comrad Mbeki, Crime is not out of hand! It is like Aids, corruption and preferential treatment of comrads (the cream of the crop!) in his hands. And that is what concerns the normal South African. - Adriaan Louw |
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Crime out of control
16/01/2007 07:28
Mbeki is like an alcoholic when it comes to crime. Until he admits there is a problem with crime, the problem will not be solved.
It is ok to make these comments when protected 24 hours by security and body guards. Maybe it's time he spent some months living amongst the rest of us. Only then he may get a real taste of the anarchy, theft and murder around him. - J |
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crime ridden SA
16/01/2007 07:48
Why should South Africans be careful of how they discuss their environment? The government withholds 100% accurate crime stats from the public,why?. "weak frastructure..major reasons."..not being pro-1994, but back then infrastructure was fine, Joe-publics rates and taxes were used for what it was intended,not for gov's back pocket. - Concerned |
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Pres Mbeki wake up
16/01/2007 07:51
Wake up and smell the coffee, Mr Prez. 15 years ago I did not know people affected by crime, just as you do not know anyone who died of Aids. Now, everybody I encounter has experienced crime (except of course senior members of government and the Pakistani cricket team who have the benefit of security guards protectint them). Forget the 2010 WC, this is not the reason to try to bring crime under control, it is a real crisis faced by ordinary people and not a perception. - realist |
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Mbeki
16/01/2007 07:52
OH MY WORD. First he denies Aids now he is denying crime, murder, rape, robberies, hijacking, fraud etcetera. God save us and give us proper leadership or we will be in Zimbabwe's shoes sooner or later. No wonder he supports Zimbabwe. - Brenda |
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Our president is naive!
16/01/2007 08:02
After being house jacked myself and seeing the terrible response from the police, I KNOW for sure that crime is out of control. Syndicates are robbing houses each night, especially in the Randpark Ridge area and western suburbs, yet the only breaking and entering department is the little Honeydew police station.
It took them MORE THAN 2 days, to come take finger prints in our flat after the house jacking... - Johan |
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I wish my friends and family was as well protected as Mbeki?s
16/01/2007 08:05
I have been hijacked, so has my brother, father, wife, mother in law and 1/2 of my friends. My car has been broken into 3 times in 2 years and my wife's car the same. 2 of my best friends have been mugged, threatened with death and beaten up, so has my brother. My sister has been held up at knifepoint. A friend of mine has been tied up in his family's house while it was robbed. Then he gave me this pearl: "Crime is not hitting close to home, it is already in our homes." I disagree with Mbeki! - Niel |
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Mbeki
16/01/2007 08:06
I think the President is completely out of touch with reality. He wants the press to report crime differently so it can go away. It is like Zimbabwe - ignore it and it will go away. It's time politicians had their body guards removed and they were forced to live like the rest of us.
Bring back Crime exposure SA! - sam |
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Crime
16/01/2007 08:11
If Mr Mbeki perceives that crime is not uncontrollable, why does the ANC-led government then not control it? - Russell O'Neill |
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Crime
16/01/2007 08:22
Well Mr Mbeki doesnt know what hes talking about. I live in a small town where the rule of law has degraded to a where you only get the police to come out to you if you pay them their expenses, cash of course. The people who run the town, are also the drug and diamond smuggling lords. When you go out to the local clubs, 14yr old girls try to sell themselves for drug money. Nobody can do anything about it, cause you wouldnt want to upset the local drug economy! You might just get a visit from SAP - Thando |
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skills in demand
16/01/2007 08:28
I would like to agree with President Thabo Mbeki when he says the country is lacking skills but would differ on the issue that the president could not highlight the fact that the private organisations are making it impossible to train and give Africans oppportunity to develope themselves and share in the economy they help build. It is a fact that whites have not reconciled in the new dispensation, but have instead taken advantage of the loop holes in the policies by further isolating themselves. - Nkutlweng |
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Pres. Mbeki
16/01/2007 08:34
It is so sad that the ONE person that CAN make a difference with crime chooses not to see the problem! Life and death lies in what we speak and Mbeki's speech does not carry life but rather death. Will he be able to face one of the victims of crime and tell them crime in not so bad? Has crime touched his inner circle? I am sure not, because then we would have had someone with compassion and someone with a passion to make a difference in a very sick world!! - Louisa Bernard |
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The President on crime
16/01/2007 08:47
The president says most South African would agree with him as far as crime is concerned.So hands up those who agree with him.Sorry mr president , i see no raised hands out here! Oh wait i see few hands:Jackie Selebi's , Charles Nqakula's , all ANC parliamentarians's.Is this most of the South African he's referring to?
Lastly , crime is not communicated to us - we see it and epxerience and are affected by it daily.He condones the chief of police's friendships with tsotsi..that's not suprising. - boyzie richard motshegwa |
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You Idiot
16/01/2007 08:48
Mr President, you clearly have no clue... not surprising since you have private security paid for by the tax payers 24/7... but I myself have been a victim of violent crime and the like in my own home on several occassions, and you say crime is not out of control. In my opinion you are incapable of doing your job! - Bob |
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Crime in SA
16/01/2007 08:48
Please please wake-up and smell the coffee. We need to realise that crime has become a problem and no tolerance attitude is needed to start solving a problem that will cost us dearly. Why do we keep on saying it is not out of hand if you hear of crime every day in this country? - Johan de Wet |
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Crime not out of control?
16/01/2007 08:51
Hmmm... funny the president should say that....he has bodyguards, high tech surveillance cameras, bullet-proof vehicles, etc...He's in no way in the "firing" range of the criminals is he? He should really wake up and smell the blood that keeps on spilling....does he not read how tourists and normal South Africans are being tortured, raped and murdered for stupid little things? We have one of the world's highest crime rates, should that not say anything? Duh, I think so. - Tasha |
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Our president is araving loony
16/01/2007 09:00
Is Mbeki raving mad? Crime is ALREADY out of hand. We are being robbed, raped and violently murdered on a daily basis. Is this supposed to be normal? Where do you see this happening in other countries? Here is our president again turning a blind eye to crime again. Does he think we are all stupid, or is he just raving mad? - Gandalf |
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Mbeki retarded
16/01/2007 09:14
No South African, anywhere, is safe. Every single one of us fears being attacked IN OUR HOMES, and being at the mercy of violent men. Even the international community is calling him to task. A colleague at work was hijacked, and during a 20 minute car chase in peak hour traffic, not 1 policeman came to his aid, yet 2 cops delivered a summons for a R100 fine. He can still not get the case number for his insurance. - david |
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Thabo & Charles, buddies in denial
16/01/2007 09:24
Mr. Mbeki, you have no clue what it is like to live like a normal South African. I do not know of one single person that would agree with you (...and most South Africans would agree with him...) Crime is controllable, but it is not being controlled. You are in a state of denial about our very obvious and very serious crime problems. The statistics speak for themselves. Everybody I know has stories of hijackings, house break-ins, armed robberies, rapes, smash & grabs, etc. This is real!!!!!! - Callie de Jager |
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