Gibbs's innings at an end?

22/01/2008 08:18

Arthur Turner

Father Time has caught up with two of South Africa's key players in Shaun Pollock and Herschelle Gibbs. Both players have played a major role in the Proteas team over more than a decade.

Pollock has recognised that his international career is over and has sensibly announced his retirement from all international cricket after the current West Indies tour. It is refreshing to see a cricketer of Pollock's stature retiring from the game on his terms, he deserves nothing less.

Pollock has enjoyed a fantastic career and retires from the game as one of South Africa's all-time greats. He played in 108 Tests, 298 ODIs before the West Indies series and 10 Twenty20 Internationals and is South Africa's highest wicket-taker in all forms of the game.

Pollock also took over the captaincy of his country at a time of crisis with the match fixing scandal in 2000 and did an outstanding job. He unfairly paid the penalty for the Kingsmead debacle in the 2003 Cricket World Cup.

Difficult to replace

Pollock was always destined for greatness because of his family gene pool. His father Peter was a great South African fast bowler in the 1960s and his uncle Graeme is probably one of the greatest five batsmen of all time.

Pollock will be extremely difficult to replace as a bowling all-rounder but fortunately South Africa have healthy resources in this department. Players like Albie Morkel, Vernon Philander, Ryan McLaren and Wayne Parnell come to mind.

The time has also arrived for Gibbs to seriously consider retiring from Test cricket. His hand eye co-ordination has been affected with age and his recent performances are proof of this.

Gibbs averaged only 26 in Test cricket in 2007 and was dropped for the Newlands Test against the West Indies. He would also not have played at Kingsmead but for Neil McKenzie's injury. He finished the West Indian series averaging nine in two Tests.

Role to play

Personally, I hope he has the vision and sense to realise this before he is permanently dropped from the Test team. This would be a tragedy for a player of his immense ability.

With regards limited over cricket, he still has a role to play as we saw at Newlands against New Zealand. This is feasible as Test and ODI cricket are so different.

Gibbs is a brilliant player who sadly for years has not come close to delivering on his immense talent. He averages 41.95 in 90 Test matches compared to Jacques Kallis and Ricky Pointing who average nearly 60. For me he is more talented than both of them.

Gibbs has never been driven nor had the desire to score runs the way Kallis and Ponting have. Also, his personal life has probably contributed to him not achieving greatness. He has always lived on the edge and been involved in many unsavoury incidents like the match fixing scandal and dagga smoking.

Chronic shortage

Gibbs will go down in history as the genius who failed to fulfill his immense potential.

South Africa currently has a chronic shortage of opening batsmen and there is no natural successor to take Gibbs's place.

There are a few up-and-coming openers who have the potential to fill this position in the future like Andrew Puttick, Blake Snijman and Dean Elgar.

However, the selectors will have to improvise for an opening partner for Graeme Smith in the short to medium term by using McKenzie or AB de Villiers.

  • Arthur is a former cricket administrator.

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    COMMENTS

    Josh says: Why on Earth...
    22/01/2008 08:51
    ...must he quit, he is a destructive batsmen if he gets going and he saves about 20 runs per match when he field, if you talk of lack of form, them Graeme Smith might as well quit too! Look at the Aussies, some of their players only cut their teeth deep in the late 20's then they shine for for Aus...just givie him time he will proof that you are so wrong!!!

    Simon says says: What have you been smoking?
    22/01/2008 08:54
    What have you been smoking, Arthur? Should Smith not go - as everytime he fails to score, he blames his knee!

    saliem says: Not a question of age but hunger
    22/01/2008 08:57
    My, my Arthur what a fickle memory you have. Not so long ago when Hersch played the pivotal role in that memorable run chase at Wanderers you (and others) were singing his praises. Looking at him in the field there is zilch wrong with his reflexes and hand-eye coordination. Methinks the problem is rather one of motivation. According to news reports he is currently out of the ODI team for personal reasons. He is now at the crossroads but if he still wants it, he is still good enough ? and SA needs his brilliance. What is needed is a coach/captain that can help him through this patch. If we wish to compete during the tough year that lies ahead, we need a fit and motivated Gibbs, as nobody else has put their hand up for his job.

    saliem says: Leave Smith out of this debate
    22/01/2008 09:04
    Please Josh, Simon and other Smith bashers - leave him out of this debate. He is here to stay unless someone else can break the door down. His situation is also totally different to Hersch... So get over it!

    Gail says: Herschelle
    22/01/2008 09:07
    How much time should Mr Gibbs be given. He turns 34 in Feb so he can hardly be compared with Aussies in their late twenties. I agree that he has a wealth of talent but unfortunately in many cases he has flattered to deceive. SA need consistency from their openers and not occasional flashes of brilliance

    Pitso says: No ways Mr.Arthur
    22/01/2008 09:11
    No ways...never!Gibbs needs a mental coach to keep him on the staright and narrow,the boy is still going to keep us watching cricket for a few more seasons, both Test and 1-Days!he is a genius!

    The prophet says: INCONSITANCY
    22/01/2008 09:14
    Authur, why not drop AB Devilliers also, age has nothing to do with it.Gibbs is still the best fielder we have, his eye hand co-ordination is still up to scratch. the way i look at it, his problem throughout his career has always been inconsistancy, just like AB, he shows sporadic patches of brilliance, and sadly not enough times in times of need for our team

    Prieur says: Fully agree
    22/01/2008 09:15
    It is definitely time for Gibs to go, how many times does he have to fail to score runs before people realize that? Saliem, one good innings in a ODI does not cover for years of lacklustre performances in both forms of the game. As for him being a good fielder, we have plenty of those in the team, AB, Ashwell etc. He should take Smith with him, I personally have not met a single perosn that actually likes the guy :)

    keith says: ya, but...
    22/01/2008 09:18
    I agree with some of what the article says, particularily when it comes to leaving the game on his terms. Question remains though, that if all the imposing senior players leave the team in quick succession - will the 'laaities' be able to sufficiently stand their ground against the intimidatory Aussies & others? You sometimes need guys with reputations & attitude rather than form to pull you through the tough ones.

    niels says: Saliem
    22/01/2008 09:23
    Saliem, that memorable run chase was twenty two months ago and it was an ODI. Arthur is suggesting he bows out of TEST cricket. I love Gibbs when he scores runs and I agree that he saves plenty. He has taken some of the most outrageous catches for South Africa and maybe, just maybe it is a good idea for him to bow out of the test arena with good grace. And who knows, in a years time, we might need him to dress up in whites again. But I think that the pressure of test cricket is something he is not up to at the moment.

    U are stupid says: U are stupid
    22/01/2008 09:25
    Firstly, Shaun Pollock retired way early and should of played for another 3 years u dumbo. He iwas still one of the best performing players in the team. Gibbs, while he lacks form at the moment is still the best opener we have, Much better than Smith(whose early career is the only reason he hangs around). Gibbs is a match winner. I say drop Boucher, He cant bat and we already have a wicket keeper in DeVilliers.

    Aaron says: Hershelle is a great cricketer
    22/01/2008 09:30
    and deserves a chance to redeem his recent "off" form. Because he is such a good cricketer obviously the expectation is for him to shine all the time. Graeme Smith is not doing well but i see no comments from you on that subject. Remember, we all have our ups and downs but deserve the chance to shine again.

    Yusuf says: Saliem,Simon, Josh
    22/01/2008 09:34
    You pick players on form NOT on reputation & past performances. Gibbs is a wonderful limited overs player but his USELESS at test level. I totally agree with Arthur, Gibbs needs to be replaced at test level, poor Amla & Kallis are exposed to the new ball far too early. The selectors keep persisting with him, 3 years without a century, PATHETIC. You also need to perform consistently. Smith has been struggling but if you see the stats, you'll realise that he has scored a century in pakistan and a 148 against WI. Look at India, they dropped great players like Ganguly & Dravid. Lets not forget Hayden was also dropped from the Aussie team,Hayden performance at the 2007 world cup speaks for itself, being dropped did wonders for him didnt it? I believe 2008 will determined Gibbs fate, no runs and the selectors will finally be forced to drop him!!!

    Brian says: not old enough...
    22/01/2008 09:41
    Arthur, oh Arthur, such foolish words on Gibbs! He is just 33 yrs unlike Adam Gilchrist and Matthew Hayden both are 36 years old! More than 8 of Australia's players are over 30yrs and if the Aussies had to read your article they would laugh at your ignorance. What Gibbs need is for the coach to get him to re-focus because his best is yet to come!

    Koos says: Why should he?
    22/01/2008 09:50
    Why should he quit? He is still getting selected. If he is not good enough, he should neot be selected, but for as long as he is selected he should play and try to make the best of it. Arthur, will you stop writing if you get too old, but news24 still wants to publish your columns? I think not... you'll still go on, and so should Herch.

    Rowaan says: Smith
    22/01/2008 09:57
    Hi i personally feel Graham Smith need's to leave the Team and make way for a new captain. Smith's record in batting both one day and Test match speak's for itself. If you say Gibbs is inconsistent look at his opening partner on the other end. Smith play's 1 brilliant innings and secure his place for a year in the team where as guy's like Neil Mckenzie has to prove every innings that he is capable of his place in the team a few low scores and then we must consider dropping the guy. Smith has no talent at all as the likes of Gary Kisten and Mathew Hayden. Honestly i rather have Gibbs entertain us with inconsistent form then have Smith bat and make a hundred.

    Bra Darkie says: I agree
    22/01/2008 10:00
    Gibbs should be dropped in tests. No century in three bloody years, and an average of 26 in 2007, what the hell is that. Keep him for the ODI's though. His fielding is impetuous and that's needed in the shorter version. But methinks the selectors should also start taking a closer look at Smith, AB and Boucher. Kallis and Amla should teach them a thing or two about consistency and concentration.

    TracerZA says: opening batsman......
    22/01/2008 10:03
    However, the selectors will have to improvise for an opening partner for Graeme Smith in the short to medium term by using McKenzie or AB de Villiers"....what about Dippenaar????? They bring in Mackenzie (deservedly), only to throw him into the deep end when one of the best openers in the country (currently averaging over 50 in the domestic series) is overlooked. Get rid of Mickey and Greame I say.

    The prophet says: yusuf
    22/01/2008 10:04
    okay, before Pakistan, when last did Smith get a century? he has been given more than enough opportunities, Maybe gibbs should be given a chance to prove himself also. i still ask, what is AB still doing in the side?? He is too inconsistant.

    Russ says: Insult to Polly
    22/01/2008 10:09
    In mentioning that we have healthy resources in the bowling all-rounder department, it is an insult to Polly to include the likes of Philander, whose main ability has been to consistently drop catches on the bigger stage. Not one of those contenders mentioned could hope to fill Polly's boots, ever. I'm afraid that the cupboard is rather bare and one only has to look at our rather fragile tail without Polly, should one be seeking any further proof.

    RobS says: All about technique
    22/01/2008 10:29
    U are stupid, please dont be stupid. Why would you want to drop Boucher he is the second best wicketkeeper/batsmen in the world. And he may not be making runs consistently at the moment but he is still the best man for a crisis we have now that Polly has gone. And with regards Gibbs, he is definitley one of our most talented players, he just needs a kick in the arse, and somebody to help him with his technique to the new ball. Sure he may not be able to pick the line of the delivery like he used but thats is just all the more reason to fix his technique. It is like any sport only players with a sound technique are able to have extremely long careers. So i say before Gibbs throws in the towel he should be given some help to fix his technique and if that fails then he should call it a day. And the same goes for Smith both need to fix their techniques or 20 for 2 is going to become a familiar site.

    Danny says: Gibbs
    22/01/2008 10:36
    I'm actually still surprised that Smith is still hanging around. Gibbs is about the same age as players like Hussey, Hodge, Laxman, etc. He can still offer a lot. I think Smith has to go however, and if you're talking about getting old - what about Mark Boucher? - now there's no hand I co-ordination

    saliem says: Prieur/Yusuf - Class is Permanent
    22/01/2008 10:37
    Then tell us Prieur and Yusuf, how does one get to a test average of over 40, if one is useless. While you are at it, tell us how many openers in domestic cricket have a DOMESTIC average that is better than the TEST average of Hersch? Finally, as I have said many times before, class is PERMANENT. Hersch is overdue for a big one? if he wants it. So that is the pertinent question.

    Yusuf says: Prophet
    22/01/2008 10:40
    Still be given a chance... what a joke, Gibbs had 3 YEARS to do that @ test level, aint that more then enough time ??? I take nothing away, his a fantastic ODI player & can be destructive when its his day i.e. his 175 in the 438 game. Fact is that his not consistent enough!!! I agree, same applies to AB.

    paul horst says: Proud of smith
    22/01/2008 10:43
    To all our fickle supporters get off Smiths back hes captaincy record and batting averages in one day and test cricket speak for themselves.

    Freshly Ground says: Smith
    22/01/2008 10:56
    Jeez what is it with you guys and Graeme Smith? If he's so bad how did he manage to score 147 and 85 in the last two test matches? For the record since 1/1/2007 he averages 43.76 in tests and 45 in ODI's. Captaincy: Since 1/1/2007, SA have won 72% of their tests and 70% of their ODI's. Get off your high horses, back your captain. Be a proper supporter with relevant information instead of this repetative whining and snivelling all the time. If you don't like Smith because he is confident/arrogant and chews gum you need to consider your options. Who in the SA team would you chose as captain to replace Smith, please enlighten me?

    niels says: IGNORANCE
    22/01/2008 10:58
    WELL PUT ARTHUR However some of THE COMMENTS that one has to read by the so called South African supporters are bizar. Smith as captain is having a amazing winning streak at the moment. The man has a record to die for. All batsmen go through slumps from time to. Even Kallis at the moment is performing below his usaul standards..

    Bra Darkie says: I can't wait
    22/01/2008 10:58
    For this series to end so we can play stronger opposition like India and Australia. That way we can really start to separate the men from the mice. If Biff and Mickey fail, then we really need to start making changes. This can't go on for much longer. Oh, and why is the country's best fast bowler (Zondeki) in the domestic league not getting a run? Instead, we wait for an injured Morkel to recover so he can get another opportunity. I don't know what to make of his non-selection. A host of things come to mind.

    Yusuf says: Saliem
    22/01/2008 11:00
    Saliem, over you haha, his wayyyyyyyyyyyyy over due, 3 years have gone = 0 centuries. Should we wait another 3 years? Like i said, dont look at reputation & past performances, look at consistency. His overall average maybe 40 but whats his test average over the last 3 years? For goodness sake, the guys struggling. He desperately needs help, he should rather go play some domestic cricket and re-find his form. Plenty youngsters at domectic level, even if they dont average 40, they cant be any worse then Gibbs!

    Pete says: Herschelle Gibbs
    22/01/2008 11:01
    Gibbs' is an unmotivated genius or, to me, appears also to be is lacking focus. He doesn't look like he's confident, or that he's enjoying himself when he bats. Much of the time he looks bored. Man management of the highest order is called for to re-ignite his spark. Give him a season out of Test cricket and let's see if it makes any difference.

    JHK says: Gibbs and Smith
    22/01/2008 11:03
    "More than 8 of Australia's players are over 30yrs"...I agree that age has nothing to with it. But, take some of the Aussies, Hussey and Hodge for instance. They scored over 30000 first class runs between them before being selected. Hayden wasn't performing, he was dropped, scored some first-class runs and came back with a bang. I think Gibbs (and Smith for that matter) should be dropped and shoul work on their game in the first-class competition. The TEST arena is no place to iron out your problems!! Keep Gibbs for the ODI's, he's destructive and no one hits the ball harder when on song...

    Dee says: Gibbs
    22/01/2008 11:04
    I say if Gibbs goes...then ol' Smithy must also march. I know Gibbs has been out of form of late but he's till a good playa. Leave my homeboy alone.....

    Dean says: Typical SA mentality
    22/01/2008 11:07
    Why should he quit? He has hit a bad patch of form? The aussies play into their late 30's. Why would we want to toss away that kind of experience? I dont understand that mentality sometimes

    Prieur says: Saliem
    22/01/2008 11:09
    I made no mention of Gibbs being useless. He is a fine ODI player, albeit inconsistent. The problem is, he has not really performed at all for years now. Class might be permanent, but Gibbs does not show it. And whether Gibbs wants a big score or is overdue one, makes no difference. He actually has to go and get the runs....

    kamalan says: People,People, People
    22/01/2008 11:37
    It's all about the money. why would Gibbs want to retire? he's getting paid for not making runs at test level and must be laughing all the way to the bank. he's just gonna ride it out as far as he can. damn if we didnt perform at work i'm sure we'd all get fired! Not Gibbs he probally cant believe his luck. getting paid for no reason, just like Smith. rather let Kallis and Amla open, they face the new ball anyway (and make runs).

    Danny says: resources
    22/01/2008 11:42
    I think something that also keeps guys like Hussey, Hayden, Ponting, Hodge and co focussed, is the fact that tey have reserves, strong guys like Dave Hussey, Chris Rogers, Adam Voges and Micheal Cosgrove coming through. The bowlers are also under pressure to perform. What have you got in S.A.? Our resources are lacking, there's no decent coaching and the batsman (who don't often play against Ntini, Nel, Steyn, Morkel, Harris, Zondeki, etc.) don't get decent balls bowled to them in the middle, Hell, Cape Cobras think Justin Kemp is a frontline bowler

    ice says: Awesome
    22/01/2008 11:45
    I think Gibbs has an abunadance of talent, yet, according to me, he has not reached his full potential. How can you drop a guy with that kind of agility in the field???

    Clive says: U are Stupid and Danny
    22/01/2008 11:47
    Stick to tiddlywinks, because you appear to know jack about cricket! Drop Boucher??? What planet are you from. He has save SA time and again, even as recently in the second test vs Windies. You cannot buy that talent. AB is twice as inconsistent as Bouch, and is light years behind with the gloves.

    Riaz says: No Ways
    22/01/2008 11:50
    If Gibbs goes, so should Smith And AB!!! they have been given way too much time and chance!

    ice says: And another thing
    22/01/2008 11:51
    Leave Smith out of this - he is an awesome captain and wonderful batsmen - look at his record and not just at his last game, maybe you see adifferent picture.

    Granville says: My suggestion
    22/01/2008 11:52
    Give Gibbs a break. Give him time to miss the game. When he comes back he will surely be better. Hunger does that to you. Lets not slate him too much though. Look at a player like AB de Villiers averaging about 35. Not acceptable for someone of his talent. When Hersh has his break that might just make room for Duminy to make a name for himself at test level.

    Wes says: Hersh still has a lot to offer
    22/01/2008 11:53
    One only has to look at a player like Dravid or Tendulkar... Before last year Sachin has has a lean time in tests but was never dropped... Gibbs still has a lot to offer SA cricket imo.

    Freshly Ground says: Smith
    22/01/2008 12:33
    I see that there are no takers for my earlier challenge. Come on guys, you are the so called EXPERTS. Who replaces Smith as captain? Anybody have a clue? Judging by the remarks in this column none of you actually know much about cricket. Typical South African supporter, moan, moan, moan. I'll bet you cheer every time we win, forgetting your dislike for Smith. When we lose though it is his fault. Fortunately in the last year SA has won 70% of their ODI's and 70% of their tests, that's a decent win rate for a crap captain and a "mickey mouse" coach, please give me a break and stop commenting on things you know nothing about.

    Tertius says: Must Gibbs go
    22/01/2008 12:38
    If anyone should go it should be nail biting, gum chewing Smith...who scores now and again...is not a good captain...and says the same things `Ja well....' at any news conference. Give us good captain that the players respect...in fact Polly why did you retire.

    saliem says: Prieur stop repeating yourself - zzzzz
    22/01/2008 12:44
    Prieur you are repeating yourself instead of answering my question. Who has a better DOMESTIC average than Hersch (TEST Average)? Remember that this person would still have to make the transition to Test Cricket. Doh!

    anton gerber says: proud of smith
    22/01/2008 12:46
    well done paul someone out there understands the game of cricket if smith goes goodnight south african cricket enough said.

    Gibbs' Bodyguard says: IQ Tests for Management
    22/01/2008 12:48
    Not every random thought in your head should be aired. At the moment, Bush would even say, "Keep him".

    Shannon says: Age has nothing to do with it!
    22/01/2008 13:00
    I agree with parts of what was said. I think that Gibbs, even today is probably the most talented cricketer that the world has seen - He just needs to get his head right. Age should never play a part, if our players are fit and able then who cares if they are 50 and still at the crease... Pollock still had a good few years left in him or perhaps his sudden retirement was brought on by the possible induction into the much higher paying Indian Rebel league. If form is an issue - drop Smith from all forms of the game.

    centrino says: Gibbs had his days
    22/01/2008 13:03
    I feel gibbs had his days and had enough chances too. We all know what an exciting and talented player he was but it's time now for SA cricket to have some new blood. He's approaching 35 soon so it's time for him to bow out and give other youngsters a chance.We should be planning for the next world cup and i'm sure he won't make it to the next cup.

    Kaapie says: Gibbs should never be in the side
    22/01/2008 13:08
    Gibbs should have quit a long time ago. He is a disgrace. A match fixing racist drug addict who has never seen the child he brought into this world by mistake.

    CLIFTON says: CHANGE THE COACH AND CAPTAIN
    22/01/2008 13:13
    Too many cricket commentators like Turner make these uninformed comments without looking at the bigger picture. Perhaps we need a better coach to inspire the genuis that Gibbs will forever be. I bet your bottom dollar that has it not been for the "Entitled Few" or untouchables then you would have seen a more inspired Gibbs or a better team effort. Why when someone like Gibbs go through a bad patch, you have these greats calling for his head but nothing get said about Smith and co. The selectors need not improvise to get a partner with Smith. Get rid of Smith and let him go work on his technique and leave the GENIUS of GIBBS. He will still deliver many memorable innings for SA

    Surie says: Smith
    22/01/2008 13:21
    Smith's good captaincy record is only there because he's got excellent batsmen from No 3 down to No 10 and Excellent bowlers. He's got no clue about strategy. Although he has started to buck up our middle order and tail end is what saves us. He needs to be dropped.

    Keabetsoe says: Gibbs Far Better
    22/01/2008 14:17
    Despite his poor form of late methinks he is far better than our pathetic motormouth, captain Smith whos words are more than the runs he scores.he is also is the most untalented proffesional cricketer in the world

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