Ban the Vuvuzela!

23/07/2008 12:34

George Dearnaley

The best thing about the first two games of the Vodacom Challenge is that the performance of our two local teams has given everyone in the country a much-needed boost after months of abject misery watching mindless performances by our national team.

Of course Manchester United are on a "pre-season" tour and are probably not pushing themselves to get results, but our local teams (Chiefs and Pirates) held their own against players who earn 20 times what our locals earn.

I was at Newlands for the first match, and although I'm a United fan, I was cheering the performance of Kaizer Chiefs as they held a decent United starting line-up to a creditable draw.

Pirates did well in the second match, only losing by a single goal - but their performance was largely decent, and if you consider that new coach Ruud Krol used mostly second-stringers, preferring to keep his first choice fresh for the Chiefs match later in the week, it puts the performance into perspective.

I have some concerns though. Firstly there are large numbers of local fans who now think that there is nothing wrong with our football. They have lost perspective of the occasion.

There is nothing for United to prove down here - they are here to run around, get match fitness, avoid injury and start sharpening up again.

There was everything for our local players to prove, and you could see it in the amount of running that was done. I only hope both teams keep up this type of performance when they are playing against our so-called smaller teams in the PSL.

The sad truth is we still have a long way to go. Our close control, short passing and dribbling skills are great. But we lack range of passing - very few players in the PSL can accurately knock a ball over 20 metres, and this is a fundamental necessity in modern football if we hope to compete at the highest level.

Our most glaring weakness is in front of goal - we lack players who can put the ball in the net more than 20 times a season. So before we start celebrating our impending 2010 triumph, lets be a little realistic and aware of our limitations.

But well done to Chiefs and Pirates for giving us something to cheer about for a change.

Local is not always lekker

There is a lot of criticism, mostly from local black supporters, about the number of white, coloured and Indian fans who have gone to the matches dressed in the red of United. The big question being asked is why these people don't support local football teams. I think the truth is that the average PSL team doesn't market itself to these population groups.

There are no Indian players in the PSL, very few whites, and most of the coloured players play for the two Cape Town teams. I know a lot of people who support an English Premiership team and a local PSL team, but it's not every day that your English team comes to town. I think it is also short-sighted to ignore the attraction of watching World-class players like Rooney and Giggs right in front of you.

I do hope though, that more South Africans will consider giving local football a chance and try to make it to one game this season just to get a taste of local action.

But I also think that the PSL clubs must make more of an effort to attract and entertain local supporters - and keep them happy!

Unban the unban of the vuvuzela

FIFA recently unbanned the vuvuzela from making an appearance at the 2010 tournament. The unbanning came about after a small group of local fans complained that FIFA were infringing on their "culture". I made a note of counting those with vuvu's in my close proximity at Newlands. There was one person with a vuvu for every 40 fans. Using a simple calculation I worked out that 2.5% of all fans had a vuvuzela at the match.

My question is whether the other 97.5% enjoyed having their ears destroyed by the mindless noise that comes from mostly mindless people who don't actually even watch the game?

Surely the majority of fans would rather watch the game, hear the comments and the shouts from other fans, perhaps get a song going or at least clap when you think something has been done quite well!

I hate them!

  • George is Media24's Mr Soccer.

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    COMMENTS

    Kay says: Ban the vuvuzela
    23/07/2008 12:52
    At last someone who feels as I do regarding these noisy instruments. Am a keen soccer fan, albeit not the local variety and am wondering whether the overseas fans who have watched the two games against Man U would really be interested in watching a match in a stadium where the noise is so bad you just cannot concentrate. Was 'fortunate' to be invited to a match with some overseas visitors last year (Loftus) but all 8 of us left at half time as we could not take the noise. Would be interested to hear other views on this. I personally think the L.O.C. need to rethink allowing these instruments into the stadiums

    local is lekker says: vuvuzela for life
    23/07/2008 12:53
    Gorge i agree with some aspect of this article..more esspecially the fact that SA socccer teams do not market themself well to other racial groups...i think there is more we can do on that regard and that will definatley improve our game.. As for banning vuvulezas no no no...vuvuzelas have become a cultural symbol of SA soccer...and if i am correct one of the united plyers was quoted sayin vuvezela create a carnival atmosphere..vuvuzela 4 life...we have already banned it on rugby now soccer??

    Vuvu says: It's what south african soccer is all about!!!
    23/07/2008 12:58
    If you don't like it, then don't go watch SA football. Yes it is our culture!!! The English sing songs until they are red in the face ... Good for them, it's how they prefer to entertain themselves ... it's their tradition. The Vuvuzela is a big part of South African soccer. So for you to go watch one match and call for the ban to be reinstated is ridiculous. Be proud to be South African, after all the Vuvuzela is being South African!

    the prophet says: i'm with you...
    23/07/2008 12:59
    i'm with you on the vuvuzela bit George.. i hate it aswell.i think it's a neusance and is iritating.there's nothing cultural about it. just think 10-15 years ago, where was that culture then before the vuvuzela came along. as for the support for man u as opposed to local football, i'm sure the springboks would get more support in Zimbabwe than their zimbabwean rugby tea.. enuf said

    Duncan says: Vuvuzela's - ban them
    23/07/2008 12:59
    I agree with the author, I can't even watch local soccer because of the constant buzzing in the background from them.

    Mark Lambrechs says: vuvuzala
    23/07/2008 13:00
    Could not agree more, Carry on like a bunch of undisciplined children.

    Mau says: Local Soccer
    23/07/2008 13:01
    I'm completely supporting George's article. Most of the white soccer fans I know doesn't support the local teams for on reason: In Africa it is only a black man's game (no marketing campaign to attract any other South African than the black people). Tkae in consideration the successful campaigns for our rugby teams and you'll notice that the crowds are getting more and more positivly 'colourful'. I'm also for the banning of the Vuvuzela, it has never been in any 'culture' before (it is only been made for fans in the last couple of years) and it is not helping crowd support. Look at how the Europeans and Americans sing together!

    mp3's mentor says: ill support who ever the hell i want..
    23/07/2008 13:01
    its amazing how blacks are always the first to jump up and say "i have rights, i have freedom of choice" yet if whites and indians support a team that actually has some skill, they are unhappy. we'll support who ever the hell we wish, as its OUR RIGHT. PSL soccer is crap anyway and i hate the vuvuzela too. a culture of noise making and acting like primates is of no concern to FIFA.

    marcel says: Ban them
    23/07/2008 13:01
    Agree with you on the vuvuzelas, they ruin the experience of attending games. I only attended a handful of local games last season, the main reasons being the poor standard of play and the "atmosphere" created by these instruments. The best supporters imo, Bloem Celtic supporters, sing and dance, we should follow their example.

    Tshepo says: Good analysis
    23/07/2008 13:03
    Good analysis, however, I tend to disagree with your opinion on Vuvuzelas. I do own a Vuvuzela, but to be described as mindless is a definite No No. We go out there to enjoy our favourite game in a manner which is unique in a South African context, and I do not understand why should we not promote any item which we can clearly pride ourself with. Vuvuzela was initially synonimous with soccer, but of late even the rugby and cricket fans have been buying them, and I've never had anyone criticize them.

    pj says: VUVUS
    23/07/2008 13:04
    I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE VUVU'S.IT PUTS ME OFF FROM GOING TO WATCH LOCAL SOCCER.THESE VUVUS ARE BLOWN NONE STOP THROUGHOUT THE GAME.FANS EVEN BLOW THESE DURING ANTHEMS BEING SUNG.ITS SO DISRESPECTFUL.I THINK THE SOCCER BODIES SHOULD DO A BIT OF EDUCATION CONCERNING THE USE OF VUVUS.(IN A NICE WAY). I REMEMBER ONCE WHEN A MINUTE OF SILENCE WAS CALLED FOR JUST BEFORE A START OF A MATCH,SOME FANS JUST CONTINUED BLOWING THEIR VUVU'S,.I ALWAYS WONDER IF ALL THESE VUVU NOISES CAN DISTRACT PLAYERS.

    hiema says: ban vuvu
    23/07/2008 13:07
    I do agree with you 100% the vuvuzelas is just making a noise and I'm a fan of local soccer, but my team is Ajax Cape town. People go to watch a match and people blow that thing in your ears its so sensless if you want to cheer your team make up a nice song there is alot of songs you can sing, vuvuzela is not a culture thing for sports please, ban vuvuzela's for life please

    KLJ ( Mafikeng) says: Ban Vuvuzela
    23/07/2008 13:08
    I am between and betwiks the idea of banning them, sometimes you cannot notice if there are spectators or not, Like on so called BIG teams, I think that they must be banned as one cannot concentrate, There is too much noise are dangerous if one can be slapped with several times, For the small teams, they can use them so as to make noise as if the stadium is full, But my idea is that I want them to be banned and be raplaced by the ongoing singing and cheering of teams as it is really special,

    ross says: vuvuzela
    23/07/2008 13:09
    I hate them

    Jax says: I agree...
    23/07/2008 13:11
    Apart from a fly on your food, a vuvuzela is the most annoying thing around. I would just like to know how it is a 'cultural' thing... that is probably the reason why I don't support local soccer! Maybe I have no culture...

    Mukesh says: Ban the vuvuzela
    23/07/2008 13:12
    Hi, Your column is so right. 1. I say ban the vuvuzela. Its so monotonous. The players also don't know who the vuvuzela is being blown for, 2. About other population groups not supporting local soccer. The same could be said about supporting local music, rugby and cricket matches. People have prefereances and we must accept that; also as you said no marketing has been done to the other population groups. Also security at games is of a big concern that has to be addressed.

    Nitro says: George...george....georgy!
    23/07/2008 13:13
    One would never think you plaed soccer for a great side like Amazulu. Or even Bafana, where the vuvuzela was a constant feature...You scored some good goals for both, and everytime you did, the fans helped in your moment of glory by blowing the vuvuzelas....or have you forgoten. Secondly this is the second time, ManU comes to SA and both times Alex has spoken jubilantly about the atmosphere inside the stadium (provided mostly by these vuvuzelas). Now I know most local soccer fans don't mind them, Fifa doesn't mind them, the manager of your favourite team doesn't mind them, you yourself didn't mind them when you played....So whats your problem?

    Michael says: One Note
    23/07/2008 13:13
    They are terrible!!! I cannot watch local soccer with the sound on! If people could actually make a band and hold a tune that would be one thing. And yet the PE Cricket band got Banned and they at least Rock

    theDriver says: ban vuvuzela
    23/07/2008 13:14
    oh George why am I not surprised that you want the vuvuzela banned?. It's sickening that people go to the stadium once when an English team comes here and think they can dictate for the rest of the nation. U will be happy to know that it is banned in the rugby matches so u might wanna start attending those. By the way as a former (mediocre) striker how many goals did u average a season?...

    Wiseman says: Another thought on MU shirts...
    23/07/2008 13:14
    I am willing to bet that most of the guys wearing red were also supporting Chiefs. If I had one, I'd wear my red to thank MU for comming but still want Chiefs to do well against them.

    Eric Murphy says: I hear you!
    23/07/2008 13:15
    I agree 100% with your vuvuzela comments. They should ban that crap at games, get people to start singing and cheering instead of blowing mindlessly. There's not even a tune. The band at cricket matches in PE is fantastic, gets the crowd singing along too, vuvuzela's just dont have the same effect. People should also learn to sit in their seast at local games, hate coming to my seat and there's already someone sitting in it, security doesn't even help. Thats why I'm not a fan of local soccer.

    SA Fan says: Ban the Vuvuzela
    23/07/2008 13:18
    I'm in total agreement with your views. I used to be a regular at our local matches at the time when we had decent players to watch and people where there to enjoy the soccer. I stopped going when the vuvzela started making more of an apperance. I hate the noise it makes. Please ban it. Why can't we sing the team songs or praises of players that are performing.

    Fez says: Vuvu
    23/07/2008 13:19
    I hate them too! They are the noisiest things on earth, however ... they are what SA football is all about. They are a major cultural symbol, so NO, they shouldn't be banned! When I go to England I will sing with the fans, when I am in South Africa I will buy a vuvuzela and blow it till my lips are bloated. DON"T BAN THE VUVUZELA!!!

    Leslie says: since when does soccer need to be marketed
    23/07/2008 13:19
    Does Man U market their soccer to our locals, no. Why does our local soccer have to market to Indians and whites. It is simple, whites and Indians dont have the skill at that level. Man U really struggled and if they were to play in our league they would be relegated as did the old whites teams like Helenic, Duban City etc. It always seems like they are playing great soccer. But England never seem to be consistent and do much worse than Bafana at winning. When last did England win a major trophy, 1966. When last did Bafana win a major trophy, 1996. Spot the difference. Dont support English soccer, it is not as good as it seems!

    Dutchman says: Vuvuzelas
    23/07/2008 13:20
    How much does these Vuvuzelas cost each?Watching any sport for me is doing it from the chair.I wouldn't be able to have any noise in my ear while i have to watch a game in a stadium.This is my choice.How many people have one at a game?If is only twenty or thirty then it can't be the majority.Then ban it.If half of the crowd have one then you have to accept it.

    Harm says: BAN VUVUZELA
    23/07/2008 13:21
    I agree with everything you said. Being Afrikaans I grew up with rugby. However my youngest is an ardent Man U fan and plays soccer. I would love to take him to a match, but the noise! I had the misfortune to sit in front of one such a person at a recent rugby match at Ellis Park. One of these spoilt the whole experience. I would rather listen to the crowd cheering and chirping than one of these things.

    Chris-T says: Vuvuzelas
    23/07/2008 13:22
    I'll like to agree with you on the point of vuvuzelas. Although I own one (I picked it up when a fan of a losing team threw it away in frustration), I just can't stand the noise it makes when it's someone else blowing it. Frankly speaking, it's extremely annoying. I hate it when some people say it's black culture because I've never met a single black person who enjoys its noise - except when you are the one blowing it. It's like drinking beer but can't stand the breath of beer drinker. I, indeed, wish they could ban this thing from all sporting games! I enjoy live action but I always have to put up with ear ache at the end of the day. It's just so uncomfortable.

    Johan - wit boer says: vuvuzelas
    23/07/2008 13:23
    I would like to watch the soccer games, but hate the noise of the vuvuzelas

    Speedy says: Leave the VuVu
    23/07/2008 13:24
    guys the point of this article is not the vuvu but the lack of skill in the local game. I am an indian, I support both Man Utd and Pirates. Though I wont go to any local games cause it does give the true depiction of the Rainbow Nation. We want a qouta system in every sport besides soccer. Why? Why cant there be at least 5 non blacks in any soccer team like is required in rugby and cricket.

    TY says: Vuvuzela
    23/07/2008 13:26
    George have you even been to watch a local psl game? 2.5%- there were more manu supporters there so obviously!!! George do me a favour: GO WATCH A PSL GAME!!!!!

    Q says: VUVU -
    23/07/2008 13:26
    Why is it that when something in life does not go your way then all of a Sardine "But eish it is my culture" If that is so could somebody please tell me whether this noise machine was "Born" 500 years ago or is is "Culture" used as an excuse again.

    Desmond says: Absolute Generalisation
    23/07/2008 13:26
    I am disgusted by Georges comments and feel that he should not generalise in that manner regarding vuvu's. I own one and I am a coloured South African who is a qualified CA and hardly mindless. The fact that a football stadium is a public placed means that tolerance has to excercised towards all types of fans whether it be sophisticated VIPs or your average man on the street. Banninng something that has become part of our footballing culture is not the answer. I would hate to expirience in SA what you expirience in the UK for the simple fact that it would not be uniquely South African, not to say the one is better than the other, its just different environments and cultures. The answer lies in having the vuvu's cordoned off to certain section of the stadiums catering for that kind of atmosphere and in this way we have catered for different strokes for different folks. But asking for a banning is very short sighted and selfish on your part George.

    Mahuntsu says: No No No
    23/07/2008 13:27
    They must not ban the vuvuzelas.The fact is, Black people like it and white people dont.It is part of our culture now.The fact that they didn't exist then doesn't mean they should be banned.I can't blow it myself but i don't hate it.

    Fraud says: Bravo George!!
    23/07/2008 13:29
    You knew what kind of reaction you would get if you suggested the vuvuzela to be banned. You knew the white racists would support you and the defensive blacks would attack you! These are the perfect ingredients for high readership and hot debate! Psychology 101. Well done man. To everyone who fell for this trick: don't worry, I almost fell for it too! LOL!

    Craig says: Ban VUVU
    23/07/2008 13:29
    I agree with you, there is nothing more irritating that some idiot blowing away next to you while you are trying to watch the game and talk to your group that is with you! I was pleased when I heard they are going to ban them at games, and feel that due to noise pollution, they should only be permitted to have vuvu's in a pre determined area of the stadium. I am a huge supporter of Mmpumalanga Black Aces and think that at most of the games in both the premiere and first division there is not enough emphasis on attracting the other races. Most white people I talk to, say they don?t go to the games as they don?t feel safe. I have been to allot of games, and only ran into trouble twice.

    Bob says: Vuvuzela hater
    23/07/2008 13:30
    There is nothing more annoying than the mindless sound of a vuvuzela. No tune, no melody nothing just a clear display of a complete lack of intelligence - if you think they are great and love the sound then thanks for letting us all know what an imbecile you are.

    theDriver says: Eric & the rest...
    23/07/2008 13:32
    if you are not fans of SA soccer (like dear ol George) why do you think your opinions matter?, if you dont like it then you stay away from it. I doubt there is anyone putting a gun on your heads to go watch soccer, you can stay at your tranquil living rooms, sip Klippies & watch rugby. Or you can make noise about something which you don really care about, an exercize which I find to be senseless

    Riaan Louw says: Vuvuzela!!!!
    23/07/2008 13:34
    The English have songs (and swearing), the South Amercans and Spanish their red flares and South Africa the vuvuzela. Its what is unique to South Africa. I have watched English and Scottish premier League football live, and although it is way different, there are constant swearing, spectators so drunk or high on cocaine and fighting on the streets afterwards between fans. Sometimes you have to take the good with the bad. I know the vuvuzela is noisy, but maybe it is because most people cant blow the thing properly. I know I can...

    Funnybones says: Vuvu's
    23/07/2008 13:35
    George, if the players complained about the Vuvuselas your argument would hold some water. The players hear them week in and week out. The fact of the matter is that white people have never really understood an African way of celebration, so i cannot expect you to understand why we celebrate as we do. Be it with song or Vuvuselas.

    citizen says: Soccer . . er football anyone
    23/07/2008 13:36
    I agree that the vuvzela should go. It is an incessant, monotonous noise which I cannot stand. One of the reasons that I do not follow local football. I was surprised at the local teams performance, better than what I had expected, even though the Brits were running on mild steam. Give me Euro footie any day.

    Dex says: Psl
    23/07/2008 13:37
    I dont support local soccer due to the fact that millions of rands in sponsorship gets pumped into local soccer yet, we not producin enough top class players, mayb goverment should stop tryin to tamper with teams that are world beaters, and focus on why our local soccer is so weak, as for the vuvuzela i think they should stay it has become part of local soccer.

    Pamela says: Vuvusela for life
    23/07/2008 13:40
    This is 'typical white' don?t understand the concept behind the 'mindless' that's being stereotype and coming from a white is typical white mentality. When you don?t understand something you ask you just don?t fork out your opinion like that and jy wys dat jy nie die spel verstaan nie. So if most of you white folks could stop watching the EPL and support your local sport you'd get the picture. The vuvu is your equivalent of the haka for the all blacks might not be the best example but that is what gets the guys from the stands going. Singing is accompanied by the instrument and in the soccer scene it?s the vuvu. So let us be proudly South African and African we are. If you cant stand the noise than watch the game from home.

    percy says: well said
    23/07/2008 13:40
    ban the vuvuzela more of a headache than anything.yes we indian,coloured and white support Man Utd that was proven in Durban pirates supporters were buried in a sea of red.i agree we need coloured,indian and whites playing football in the PSL

    CTheB says: Most annoying noise
    23/07/2008 13:44
    The vuvuzela must be in contention for making the most annoying noise in the world. All I can say is that I'm extremely happy that I'm not a soccer fan and therefore the necessity to endure the horror of them is minimal. They do, unfortunately, make an appearance amongst spectators of the bigger running events. The last time I ran a big race someone blew one right in my ear. Not only was I unable to hear out of that ear for a few minutes, but I almost fell over because of the sudden and horrible shock. As for the "carnival atmosphere" one of the Man U players liked, let's see how much he likes the atmosphere when he's not safely on the field, far from the source. @theDriver - argumentum ad hominem? That's just sad.

    Jeff says: Let it Be !!!
    23/07/2008 13:45
    Clearly some people only go to live club soccer matches only when there is an international side playing I say that because these guys probably have not even been to matches where the National sides have played either and if you have its been in a corporate box. So I say can it let the people who pay for thier tickets week in and week out to support thier local teams be the ones that develop the atmosphere at the stadium. those who feel that this form of spectator support will be embarrassing for our European visitors to that I say TIA This Is Africa and this is the way we like And yes George what was ur scoring Average again ????? MR SOCCER *lol

    RYAN says: VUVUZELA
    23/07/2008 13:47
    Come on Geoge please man vuvs are south african and well they are unique and the fact that fifa is not banning them is great and well if the noise is too bad get one yourself man so that it does not bother you too much ,however mayb there should certain times one should be able to blow them great article keep it up lol....

    Nanker Phelge says: Another Vote for the Bann
    23/07/2008 13:48
    Bann Vuvuzelas. I don't care if some ignorant Mancs like them. They only have to endure them once or twice a year. It does say a lot if the most creative instrument SA can come up with is a tuneless instrument which sounds like a cow with bad gass.

    Sbu says: I dont agree
    23/07/2008 13:49
    George have you watched Laliga, if you have then you would have noticed the noise that comes from the fans. And for you to call people "mindless" fans is just uncalled for. So if you dont have anything to say about our soccer then you are more than welcome to go support rugby or cricket. Thats just so racist of you.

    Mr.B says: Did you read my mind
    23/07/2008 13:49
    Funny you mention colour,I was visiting someone last night and the soccer was on,my son asked me why I do not support local soccer if that any local sport and I said that there are no Indians playing in SA Sport.Hashim Amla considers himself black,so still no Indian,yet this country talks about development,where?

    Tazz says: No Way
    23/07/2008 13:51
    Aa a Man Utd supporter I am very disappointed at the way they played. A draw against Chiefs was a joke. I think the main reason they are here is to make Chiefs and Pirates look like good teams, but they are not the top teams at the moment. We will see that at the end of next season.

    Happy Person says: The Vuvuzela
    23/07/2008 13:56
    Support who you like. Its really up to each person, No? As for the Vuvuzela, they sound crap on TV because the sound effects mikes are situated around the whole stadium, therefore you get this bee like drone. Actually at the stadium the interplay between skilled vuvu users is fun, and amateurs like me find it enjoyable and a fun part of the day out at the game. (Once! Always!)

    DVD says: Mindless people
    23/07/2008 13:59
    George, to call people who are passionate about blowing vuvuzelas 'mindless' is an insult. Nobody calls mindless about your passion. Address the issue of vuvuzelas without insulting people. As for marketing our local football to other groups, i agree with you on that one, even though i have lost interest in our local games because poor quality.

    Edwin Twala says: the vuvuzela is here to stay
    23/07/2008 14:01
    It?s a pity for you George during your playing days you never received any praises when ever you touched the ball, when Tiko Modise touches the ball the mabhakabhaka fans blow their vuvuzela?s when we got the world cup bid the first thing that went on was the blowing of that vuvuzela. When you say they should ban the vuvuzela its like you are saying leave your tradition at home, leave your makakarapa at home. I find your reasoning behind your suggestion to be of a stupid nature meant to complete this article. My suggestion is that sticks to playing soccer, leave the politics of soccer to fifa

    Lady D says: Judge-me-Not
    23/07/2008 14:02
    The choice of words used by these bloggers is fascinating indeed. One likened the fans to PRIMATES. The other believes they are MINDLESS. The other is convinced there is NO TUNE to the vuvuzela sound. Goes to show the true reasons behind the resentment of this otherwise harmeless, inanimate object. It's the people behind them that are being resented. The poor vuvuzela.

    Nick says: VUVUZELA
    23/07/2008 14:05
    I think FIFA will see that the VUVUZELA is more of a problem than a compliment to the game, if someone is blowing that in my ear all the time i will take umbridge to it. I think it will cause a lot of fights - lets see?

    realist4sa says: Response
    23/07/2008 14:06
    WOW people. It's crazy to see how personal you all become when there's talks about other racial groups, cultures or anything else for that matter. I do agree that the vuvuzelas can be a headache and do agree that its should be limited is some way. Or they should think of a solution and allocate seats for vuvuzela users. That will in some way avoid the in your ear blowing troubles people have. Maybe then they will feel how it feels when 20 vuvuzelas are blowing behind you or next to you. At the moment i dont see local soccer as pretty. When i was younger i was a big chiefs supported. They even sang happy birthday to me in 98. Teams of recent does not carry the star authority that the teams in the 90s and before carried. They were proper SPORTSMEN..... Today they are money junkies...

    fedup says: Leave us alone
    23/07/2008 14:06
    I had some respect for you as a soccer analyst (your soccer skills were mediocre) untill today. Why do you want to impose your european culture (of clapping hands) on us? Leave us alone to do what we enjoy doing. This world is not all about what you and your fellow european descendents prefer. Anyway, who said we need white, indian and coloured people at stadiums? We see enough of them at work. Can't we have our own space!!!

    DeeIsCool says: Vuvuzela are great but....
    23/07/2008 14:06
    There is nothing wrong with the VUVU. The only issue, which of course can be addressed, is those stupid soccer fans who blow them on other people's ears. The thing is there are also bad habits by rugby fans, especially Bulls, who drive recklessly and make a lot of irritating noise whenever the Bulls play at Loftus. But I enjoy it anyways because it's their own way of showing their passion. So are soccer fans as well. But we still need to educate them on how they can use these things without irritating or hurting other fellow supporters. Simple as that!

    chopstick says: Sing songs , bang the drums
    23/07/2008 14:09
    African have the best rythem ever - why spoil it with this noise ?

    Tank says: what about a vuvu stand
    23/07/2008 14:11
    What about having a specific stand in the stadium for those that want to blow their vuvuzelas? In the UK you have stands for different supporters, and in Aus you have "family" stands. That way a solution could be offered?

    Ndokomane says: Ban these Instruments for Hooligans
    23/07/2008 14:16
    I am not fond of the Vuvuzela at all as a matter of fact I hate them they infuriate me and I deem associating Vuvu with SA culture is being disrespectful to our culture and maybe not understanding the meaning of the word culture. Football has been there long ago in SA before the inception of the Vuvuzela and I mean quality football not the mediocre performance that the so called professional PSL players are displaying lately. In those years supporters were filling the stadia like the current number one supporters - Siwelele (Bloem Supporters). Who will not enjoy watching soccer in the environment that these passionate and amazing Siwelele die heart supporters create for their team? Vuvuzelas must be banned.

    Agent Orange says: VuVu off.
    23/07/2008 14:20
    They don't need to ban the vuvuzela - just dont let them into the stadiums at the world cup. Let the brain-dead idiots blow their lungs out on the useless contraption at local games...it's their culture, so let them use it - just don't let them use it in international games where some people actually want to watch a DECENT game of football instead of looking and listening to people who think they're at a mass fancy dress party.

    Bryan says: Curious
    23/07/2008 14:20
    There is a quota system for every sport but Soccer, I mean come on, lets be fair... Ban the damn things its annoying as heck. We wont even make it passed the 1st round in 2010...

    garrigah! says: To kaybee...
    23/07/2008 14:21
    No wonder you won't find any other races there. We actually DO have sense to watch our textbook-style soccer because they produce goals by the ton. FYI: judging by the two games recently played + EURO 08, I like seeing goals and results during 90 min of play, not penalty shootouts. Vuvuzelas: Senseless - have zippo to do with ANY kind of sport for that matter. Maybe we will then go and watch.

    Titinium_Duke says: Vuvuzela
    23/07/2008 14:25
    If you don't like Vuvuzela, stay home or get yourself some ear plugs to reduce the noise when at stadium.

    Bug says: Food for thought...
    23/07/2008 14:26
    I went to the cricket world cup last year in the caribbean. They had banned all the tradtional fanfare that went with supporting the various cricket teams and a lot of the atmosphere was lost. Let's not make the same mistake.

    Clinton Beckett says: Kaybee's comment
    23/07/2008 14:29
    That is the reason our local soccer or our national team is not improving, because we S.Africans have lost focus on what football is all about or what the aim of the game is ??? Is it not to score goals or win games ??? I believe our youngsters are brought up with the mentallity that football is all about the shibob's etc...and thats wrong.

    Ashley says: Reason for not watching local soccer
    23/07/2008 14:30
    The vuvuzela is one of the main reasons that I dont watch local soccer on TV...there is no point turning the volume down as I want to hear the commentary. As for attending a game at a stadium...yeah right I might go deaf with that stupid noise. Cant we be civilized nation at least at soccer games and sit in our seats and applaud and cheer at the great football!!!!

    Piper says: Vuvuzela
    23/07/2008 14:33
    Georgy my brother, i think the unbanning of the vuvuzela by FIFA was a step backwards, they are terrible to say the least, I wonder when people say it's their culture, what happened to supporters going to stadiums to watch and enjoy games, singing Shosholoza that's more our culture. Down with Vuvuzela's.

    Proudly South African says: Ban the Vuvu
    23/07/2008 14:35
    you okes have the cheek to call your selves south africans, wake up and come out of the cave of ignorance, the vuvu gives a truly south african taste to any sports event played both here at home as well as overseas! viva Vuvuzela viva

    mb says: VUVUZELA's
    23/07/2008 14:45
    Leave vuvuzela's alone, and by the way, cultures are born everyday, they don't have to ancient, companies have cultures, families ahve culture and our local soccer fans have cultures, the only reason is that most of these non-Africans don't want to embrace Africa and all it's beautiful and colourful cultures!!!

    Jimi Greaves says: Vuvuzulus are primitive
    23/07/2008 14:58
    Another excellent article, George. Vuvuzulus are just like our football - very poor quality. Everyone knows that the standard of football in SA has droped significantly in the last 15 years as skillful whites and indians have been forced out of the game by violence, corruption and poor organisation. We only won the cup in 95 because of the quality of players like Tovey and Fish and of course, the coach Barker. Durban City were not relagated - the won the NPSL 2 years in a row and gave up due to poor standards. ManU treat this as a paid holiday - they really don't take SA football seriously. It's a joke - just like vuvuzulus

    Mike says: PSL
    23/07/2008 14:59
    PSL and vuvu's are both crap - like ants chasing a grain of sugar - no structure - no skill -just showboating

    Curries Fountain says: soccer for the chosen few ??
    23/07/2008 15:02
    I agree with you 100% when you said 'There are no Indian players in the PSL'In the days of SASF, teams like Manning Rangeres,Tongaat Crusaders,D'Alberton Callies were some of the top indian teams in the country.It is absolutely disgusting that SAFA can exclude Indians from the makeup of its soccer teams.This is racism in its purist form. How can people talk about a rainbow nation when mostly the blacks benefit.No one in SA can say that there are no talented soccer players amongst the indian communities around the country. It will be interesting to see if aspiring young non-white soccer players get drawn into an academy now that our own 'Bay United' has made it into the PSL

    Sean says: Re:
    23/07/2008 15:03
    I live in Dublin and I have been watching the games on MUTV. The MUTV commentators, Sir Alex Ferguson and countless players have slammed the sound of vuvuzela's as "noise." I have always felt they have no place in a crowd. They ensure that any atmosphere there is; is drowned out by blunt tones.

    Justin Brogan says: Ban Vuvuzelas
    23/07/2008 15:03
    Ok heres my 5 cents worth. I went to the Man Utd knowing what to expect re the vuvus. I was asked en route to buy them at a cost of R20 each. If it is for traditional values, why are these plastic things, which are no good on another arguement for bio degradable items being used? It is a plain marketing tool which FIFA will use to make money for the sponsors, and an edge will be " we are promoting work by having these made locally" I know the script man. ANOTHER MARKETING ACCESSORY, USING TRADITIONAL VALUES, GET REAL! Ok they are a bloody noise too, missed all announcements on pa system, lets argue that it is a safety issue too please! come up with something a little original not a drone farted through a pipe. I say only allow them for SA game /s

    The White man says says: You don't get the vuvu!!
    23/07/2008 15:08
    I am a white man who went to the Newslands (my first soccer match ever) and you know I had a major headache but the people blowing the vuvu in a noisy way were not the black people it was the whites and coloured. I got caught in a group of black people and I heard how the vuvu should be played it was amazing the problem is people just blow on this with not understanding and is just noisy!! I get the vuvu and understand to rest learn how to make music with. PS I was surrounded by about 20 vuvu's and they didn't know how to use it now thats yoh!!! To the group who made music with your vuvu's it was BRILLIANT!!!

    Stephen Fisher says: South African sound!
    23/07/2008 15:10
    I feel it brings a unique SA sound to the game like the singing does in the UK etc.

    tumza says: you are insane
    23/07/2008 15:13
    your comments belong in the bin...u r truly crazy to even suggest that.....

    True Blue SA says: Culture My #$^$% - BAN VUVUS
    23/07/2008 15:14
    Since when is a vuvu "culture". Puleeeese - get hold of yourselves. It is ususally those who do not really watch the game who blow vuvus. I went to two PSL games last year - both time spoilt by the incessant blast of vuvus in my ear. As stated in previous comments - I will rather stay at home.

    George says: Some answers to some questions
    23/07/2008 15:22
    I scored 61 goals in 124 pro games - mediocre striker who also won the Golden boot in 1992! I have been to hundreds of local games. There were no vuvuzelas in my playing days from 92 until 2001. All fans who have a vuvuzela are not mindless. I support AmaZulu. I love an atmosphere at football - but I would also like to talk to the people around me, and hear what they have to say. Thanks for seeing through my plan Fraud!

    Keo says: Even Mbeki owns one
    23/07/2008 15:36
    Did u saw when we won the 2010 bid? The president, ministers who were in Zurich blew their vuvus proudly and loudly. Viva vuvus viva.

    Thabitha says: Two faced
    23/07/2008 16:01
    I was in Hatfield in Pretoria last year when the Springboks beat the lights out of the poms in the finals. 50% of the whities there were blowing Vuvus like crazy...So what the fuss huh!!!!Dont try to be "ur" people's spokesperson, some of them actually love celebrating with the Vuvus JEEEEZZ!!

    Expat says: Ban the buzzing
    23/07/2008 16:04
    I'm a South African now living in Bermuda, and I planned to watch the Chiefs vs ManUtd game in the pub with friends, all from the UK. They all left after about 15 minutes as they couldn't stand the background buzz caused by the vuvuzelas. They're awful and need to banned!!

    Didier Peinke says: Vuvuzela is part of SA Soccer Culture.
    23/07/2008 16:05
    Quote from wikipedia. A vuvuzela sometimes called 'lepatata' (its lesser popular Setswana name)is an air horn, approximately one metre in length, made from plastic and commonly seen at soccer matches all over the world. The name is said to originate from the Zulu for "making noise" although this is disputed. Others say the name originates from the fact it makes a "vuvu" sound when blown, or comes from the township slang related to the word for "shower". Vuvuzela: A rough translation from Zulu meaning making noise. This soccer horn originally made out of tin, but is now locally manufactured (in South Africa) in plastic. It has largely influenced and shaped South Africa?s soccer and sport culture into the alive, vocal and energetic state that it is in today. Essentially it is an elongated trumpet type instrument made from plastic that requires some lip and lung strength to blow it. Then the noise that it emits is something like a deep foghorn or an elephant. The vuvuzela is a feature of matches between big South African soccer teams Kaizer Chiefs and Orlando Pirates. The Chiefs supporters have yellow vuvuzelas while the Bucks have black-and-white vuvuzelas. There is a movement to ban the use of the instrument from the game as they are regarded as a disturbance to the atmosphere and excitement created by the fans. The history of vuvuzelas is rooted deep in African history as people would blow on a Kudu horn (a Kudu is a local and large buck with beautiful spiralled horns) to call villagers to a meeting. Adding to the appeal is that there is an African belief that says the baboon is killed by a lot of noise so the last quarter of a game sees even more frantic blowing of vuvuzelas as supporters try and kill off their opponents.

    Dan says: If you cant beat them join them
    23/07/2008 16:13
    I myself used to hate the vuvuzela and used to have to watch soccer games with the tv on mute. However earlier this year I went to the sundowns vs Chiefs game at loftus and bought myself a vuvuzela and well had an awsome time learning and playing the vuvuzela melodies. So all I am saying is get yourself a vuvu and join in the music. However on the world cup issue I personally think the vuvuzela's should only be allowed in for the SA games. the reason I say this is because the fans from other teams usually sing and chant which sets up such an atmosphere. Now if we are blowing our vuvuzela's we will just drown their singing out and rob them of their culture.

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