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Ban porn on SA cells, internet - dept

2010-05-28 22:53

Cape Town - Deputy Home Affairs Minister Malusi Gigaba is looking at ways to ban pornography on the internet and cellphones.

Gigaba met the Justice Alliance of South Africa (Jasa) this week to discuss its draft legislation on the matter.

He said this was part of his ongoing work in "providing stewardship" to the Films and Publication Board (FPB).

Jasa director John Smyth presented the draft bill and the legal opinion on the constitutional issues related to the bill.

Jasa's draft internet and cellphone pornography bill proposed that pornography be filtered out at the tier one service providers to avoid it entering the country.

The bill was aimed at the total ban of pornography on the internet and mobile phones.

Gigaba said it was noted that unlike in the physical world where a reasonable effort could be made for pornography to be kept away from children, in the online world, pornographic sites were often "parked deliberately next door" to educational sites, often with names almost identical.

Electronic channels

Current legislation, particularly the Film and Publication Act, provided for a ban on child pornography, whereas the proposed bill provided for a total ban on pornography on these electronic channels using the wider definition of pornography already available in the Sexual Offences Act.

"Cars are already provided with brakes and seatbelts; it is not an extra that consumers have to pay for.

"There is no reason why the internet should be provided without the necessary restrictive mechanisms built into it," Gigaba said.

He had asked the Law Reform Commission (LRC) to provide advice on the possibility of legislating against pornography on the internet, television and mobile phones.

The LRC was currently researching the matter, Gigaba said.

Comments
  • Lexx - 2010-05-31 08:06

    Finally someone with a bit of sense. That will be the best thing they could do, is to ban all porn on the internet and cellphones. Then we as a country can get our Morals back in place.If they pass this bill, there will be alot less child rapes, and abusement of women.

  • johnBoy - 2010-05-31 08:14

    are you nuts? this isnt China. we can censor ourselves and should be able to watch whatever we want. parents should be responsible for monitoring what children see and hear, not the goverment.

  • Individual - 2010-05-31 08:26

    I don't know why people think they have the right to choose for other people. I should be able to choose for myself - I don't need other people to "block" anything from me, or to "protect" me from anything. And as for my children, I will do the parenting - I don't need a communistic goverment deciding what is good for me or my family.

  • KP - 2010-05-31 09:00

    People should use software that blocks these sites from their children. However, adults do have choices, they can choose to view porn or not to view porn! But you must leave the choice to the people. You cannot choose for them!

  • roy - 2010-05-31 09:01

    This is a crazy! For one you can't just block part of the net, to many ways to get around it. Total wast of time..... Why not spend some time to fix the Department of Home Affairs rather than create a smoke screen.

  • Kloogy - 2010-05-31 09:38

    Yes, less child rape and abuse of woman because now they cannot access the "venting material" they require. Good logic is ...

  • zoo - 2010-05-31 09:42

    @individual & Johnboy, that's exactly the kind of attitude that leads nations to disorder. you don't realy expect parents to hang around their kids both at home and school just to monitor what their kids watch. of course it takes anyone to say "I'll choose for myself" but the reality is, you don't realy get to choose. it is forced on to you through your lustfull desires. my gues is that none of you have any kids of your own... banning porn from the internet & media would be the best thing to do. those who still want it would have to underground to get it...

  • bradley - 2010-05-31 10:36

    Gees U guys are ignorant...ok yes fair enough U can block sites adn ban ur kids frm accessing it but what about there cellphones??U going to block that aswell?? P0rn is availble with a click of a button and media encourages this crap playing these stupid adverts to sms this and that and kids will be kids to do what media says.......Ban the crap,pay if U wana watch da crap...

  • @Zoo - 2010-05-31 10:51

    @Zoo - you are not thinking straight - you are parent (I am one) should take control of what your kids are doing. Do not try and control what other parent watch because you are too lazy to monitor what your kids have access to. There are loads of very good software for home and cellphones to prevent kids having access to porn / facebook / msn / twitter or to monitor their activity; so to protect them from things that they are not ready for / or to choose for.

  • Paul - 2010-05-31 11:35

    This is the worst idea possible and not because I want my pornography, but because the banning of porn is always the first step in outright censorship. The next thing you know we will have certain channels of media also banned because they don't fit with the views of our government. As mentioned above: China. People seem to forget about censorship during the apartheid era: back then the government chose what was shown on TV and what was allowed into the country and look how that turned out. I for one will not stand for a bill that will lead to government censorship. This is a democratic country and I for one want to choose what I want to look at, not have someone else choose for me.

  • Empowerthepeople - 2010-05-31 11:49

    Here we go again. A knee-jerk reaction to one of the symptoms of a far bigger problem.
    The government needs to rather put time and effort into a campaign to empower us, the people in whose name they govern.
    A primer on the use of NetNany,CyberPatrol etc would be part of the solution, but the fundamentals of raising kids etc to not go to such sites in the first place need to be taught first; along with the rest of the ABC's of responsible parenting.
    We need a culture of moral responsility, a nation that realises that human rights also mean human responsibilities.
    Then we can maybe stop having to put band-aids on festering wounds arising from a sick body.

  • TheGrem - 2010-05-31 13:11

    @ZOO, What an appalling attitude as a parent. It is my responsibility to my children to determine what they watch or don't watch. Are you telling me that you don't check age restrictions on Movies before your kids go and watch them. You are clearly not in touch with your children. Because if you were, you would be able to tell your kids why you dissapprove (or not) of such things as pornography.

  • Kovhs - 2010-05-31 18:58

    the truth is that some of you who claim 2 choose r really not choosin,2 many porn has grown 2 b a Demon leading 2 mariage breakups,increase in d involvement wit prostitutes,etc,the list goes on the stuff aint gud 4 no man and you can argue untill ur face turns blue the fact wont change.it is not rocket science 2 know dat many innocently fell into d trap and they trying so hard day and night 2 stop it and put their lives back 2getha again.BAN THE STUFF!

  • Linda - 2010-05-31 22:15

    Great idea. What's wrong with protecting the innocent?? Let people who want porn buy it in for themselves via other media. Responsible parenting always involves censorship of some sort. This initiate will help S Africans to protect their children until those children are old enough to self-censor responsibly. And to all the bright sparks who believe it's our responsibility to stay ahead of our kids in cyberspace, all I can say is "Yes" in theory, and 'very difficult' in practise. Porn sites are designed to be FOUND, STUMBLED ONTO and PUSHED UPON the unwary. I got a message from a cellphone sex-chat site the other day in response to an sms entry in a kids competition I entered for one of my kids....

  • individual - 2010-06-01 06:55

    @zoo: I am a mother of one and I, personally, do not like porn. But what I despise more than porn are people that think they should control other people, or decide for them, or force onto them any kind of indoctrination. I am my own person and no one will choose for me. I take responsibility for my own life - I won't hide behind false insecurities like "oh my child is safe from porn because the government has blocked porn on cellphones..." That is just really naive...

  • Anonymous - 2010-06-04 10:29

    They want to block it because of child pornography and Bestiality do they ? These have existed long before the internet and will long after. I will fight ANY kind of censorship, thats all that this is.

  • Ziona - 2010-06-08 11:18

    If people want porn go pay for it at a adult shop, there is enough sick people and things out there. Porn is not meant for children and should not be available on phones and tv!!! What is happening to us is nothing "special" any more??

  • Sean - 2010-06-08 11:23

    I have a problem with censorship , period , it starts with porn , then bloggs , then free speech , where does it end , start doing your job , and educate people and they will be able to decide for themselves what is good for them or not.Not for the government to decide what is good for us or not.

  • The Bigger Picture - 2010-06-08 11:46

    A ban is an attack on our freedom, it shows a lack of wisdom and foresight. We can choose for ourselves, but cannot and should not ever make decisions for others. That is Democracy. The Creator gave us freewill, and now mankind seeks to destroy it. Once again, USE is not the problem, but ABUSE is. The government is undermining our constitution one move at a time, Before we know it, our rights will have dissappeared. Whether you agree with the ban or not, One person's rights are your rights too. And you will feel the manipulation soon enough in other aspects of your lives, if you don't protect your right to choose. The REAL ISSUE is the abuse of those rights. When America banned alcohol during Prohibition, it just made things worse and forced it underground.
    No Country on Earth, no group of people should ever have the right to choose for me, or for you. It is easy to fail to see the big picture here, but in the interest of your freedoms (which some seem to take for granted), we must stand against being dictated too.

  • PLR - 2010-06-08 11:54

    ah the dark ages sem to be returning ! you do not have the right to control what people look at or not look at on the net or their phones. People should be educated and then be able to make their own choices in life. Education starts at home. I have no problem with people who make an informed decision but this is just blind ingnorance !

  • Jethro - 2010-06-25 14:30

    I don't have a problem with whether porn is available online or not - but I do have a problem with banning. Something like this is imprecise and apart from the taking away of personal freedoms, will hamper browsing in general. Sites may not contain porn, but may still be blocked due to certain keywords, phrases, etc. There is no way to implement something like this without annoyances like that. It will throw us even further back into the dark ages...

  • PierreS - 2010-07-09 14:29

    Self censorship ? Oh please !
    To gratify your evil Godless desires !!
    I think not !
    Finally somebody with some sense will hopefully start making a difference

  • AWESOME - 2010-07-30 13:40

    Ban it completely, you will do us a big favour. Also, get rid of the "O MY GOD" on tv PLEASE - bleep it out. As a Christian, I do not aprove and why do the world take Muslims serious about there religion but not us Christians ? "OMG" is blasphemis and unacceptable! FYI, I am not a sour prune not enjoying life. In fact, I enjoy life to the fullest but believe we can go without porn. The fact that some people fight FOR porn just show what it does to the brain - not good for you.

  • himmler54 - 2010-09-01 09:09

    1. you CAN NOT ban 100% of all porn - well get 90% if we are lucky.2. such a firewall WILL cost millions to implement.3. the firewall WILL block a few "clean sites" by accident.4. The firewall WILL slow the internet down.5. why not ban alcohol and guns too?6. goverment should put this effort/time/money into creating jobs, education and fighting crime7. where is the democracy in such a descision? decide for yourself whether to porn or not to porn, and take responsibility for your own descisions/actions.THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW THE GOIVERNMENT AND THE ANC IS FAILING SOUTH AFRICA. WELL DONE!

  • Anon - 2010-09-22 15:10

    LOL!!! This is the completely insane wasting time on something that wouldn't even make any difference in anything people wake and smell the coffee do you think for a single moment that blocking porn is going to achieve anything, don't blame rapes on porn its not the problem, people are the problem and the way they think.

    That's like saying lets BAN SEX and in a few years no one will even know what it is anymore.

    Bottom line certain things are programmed into people its up to themselves to have control and make the right choices.

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