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Climate meeting takes unruly turn

2011-12-08 13:13

Durban - A climate change meeting to be addressed by President Jacob Zuma took an unruly turn at the Durban City Hall on Thursday.

Some of those attending refused to stop carrying posters which read: "Zuma stand with the poor, not the USA."

Another group who sang Zuma songs grabbed the demonstrators and pushed them out of the hall. One of them was smacked and kicked while lying down.

The aim of the meeting was for Zuma to give feedback on a consultation session with civil society organisations on the sidelines of COP 17 talks currently taking place in Durban.

Some of the people who carried posters were taken away by the police. It was not immediately clear if they had been arrested.

KwaZulu-Natal Premier Zweli Mkhize, who directed the programme, struggled to calm the people down.

"Please calm down. We don’t need chaos," he said.

Bobby Peek of Groundwork, an environmental organisation, blamed the police for the chaos.

"The comrades came here with positive messages and the problem started when the police started pulling them down," he said.

"They were here to support Zuma. These are people from different civic organisations with positive messages for Zuma."

Comments
  • Penny-wise - 2011-12-08 13:20

    It's the ANCYL Malema supporters, trying to disrupt and embarass our president Zuma. DOWN WITH THE ANCYL, SHUT THAT ROGUE ORGANISATION DOWN !!!

      Daniel - 2011-12-08 13:28

      Yip, thats it!! Now that juju is gone they are without jobs !!

      joedoos - 2011-12-08 13:29

      And the delegates from other countries think, "What a bunch of clowns!'

      procold2 - 2011-12-08 13:37

      great example people @pennywise, you hit the nail on the head

      Repline - 2011-12-08 13:40

      @ Joe, want to agree with you, but have you ever seen some of the demonstrations at the G20 conferences they are almost worse than this bunch of clowns.

      joedoos - 2011-12-08 13:43

      @Repline - good point

      Johan - 2011-12-08 13:59

      @Pennyless - Your president is an embarrassment; he needs no one's help with that. The comrades of the banana republic strikes again.

      Flowingriver - 2011-12-08 14:17

      @Penny....We see protest happening all the time in Europe....especially now with the debt crises etc....etc .....etc.....I suppose u will want to blame Malema for that as well.Protests happen all over the world all the time are they all embarassing or is it only when Blacks protest? @Johanzee .... why you still around. Leave if u not happy!

      Ed - 2011-12-08 14:18

      all this fuss...it happens at every type of major conference. what is even more sad is the Brazilian government now allowing huge swathes of Amazon forest to to chopped for mining, cattle and sugar. thats sick.

  • Matthew - 2011-12-08 13:21

    The climate protestors, Occupy protestors, anti-this protestors, anti-that protestors. Bloody workshy, entitlement-obsessed damn hippies.

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2011-12-08 13:25

      Excellent!

      Deon - 2011-12-08 13:28

      hippies...??? do you have ANY idea what hippies were? They are a long-forgotten group from the late 60's my friend, and have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with South Africa, blacks, politics, COP17 etc. So, who of these protesters would know David Gilmour, Pete Caltrane, Janis Joplin, Alvin Lee etc... ??

      Matthew - 2011-12-08 13:50

      1)Dave Gilmore was in a progressive rock band, not a hippy. 2)Never heard of Pete Caltrane, neither has Google. 3) Janis Joplin did what all good hippies do - died from abusing narcotics. Although she was basically a blues singer, not so much a hippy like Grace Slick, Jerry Garcia, Alan Ginsburg etc etc 4)Ten Years After, (Alvin Lee's band) were a hard rock/blues band also. Just because they were at woodstock, does not make them hippies. Ditto for Joe Cocker, The Who, etc etc The whole summer of love, tune in, turn off, drop out was the hippy era. The original hippys were the baby boomers who decided it would be better to sit around unwashed, smoking pot and trying to claim it as a counter-culture phenomenon. All it was really was rich kids wanting to sit around and smoke lots of pot whilst avoiding firstly the Vietnam draft, and later extended it to all productive activity. So although the smelly long-haired hippy is no longer with us (thank gods), the entitlement, laziness, nihilistic apathy and protesting for the sake of being a bloody protestor is still with us, so the whingy liberal tree huggers have just morphed into another bunch of useless whingers wanting the government to provide everything for free, whilst, ironically, protesting against the very same governments that they want to provide everything for them.

      JudithNkwe - 2011-12-08 13:50

      Matthew - you have no idea whatsoever. Most of these people work extremely hard with disadvantaged communities for very little pay. Prejudiced ignorance is not a good place to come from

      Matthew - 2011-12-08 14:02

      No, it seems being a protestor is a cool life. Get bussed from protest to protest, mainly not even knowing what the hell they are protesting about. No wonder these people dont have jobs, it must be hard to fit in a days work between socialising at the latest opportunity to get drunk, throw stones,wave anti American and British posters and generally behave like a vandal. Climate, service delivery, economic freedom, G20 meetings, this, that, the other. If only protesting was full-time paid employment... how about these people worry more about feeding themselves and their families, and less time protesting about the USA's CO2 emmissions.

      cliff.slabbert - 2011-12-08 14:15

      Quite correct Matthew! Sorry Deon, you've met your match :-))))))))

      Dave - 2011-12-08 14:56

      Actually Matthew, the hippies were the first generation who called for reducing consumption/consumerism, protecting the environment (they were labelled "tree-huggers") and getting off the rat race treadmill that obsessed with economic growth above or else. And yes they were anti-war too. They also promoted organic farming, sustainable building, renewable energy and many other technologies that are only now becoming main-stream. If only the world had listened then perhaps we wouldn't be in such a climate crisis now... So before you get all dismissive of the hippies, perhaps you should learn from them...

  • Anton - 2011-12-08 13:24

    A very typical South African scenario. And this in front of representatives from all over the world. I drop my head in shame...

      Craig - 2011-12-08 13:26

      TIA

      Jaco - 2011-12-08 13:32

      Yes Anton, luckily the same didn't happen in Seattle during the WTO meetings! We are obviously the only country in the world with any form of protest.

      paul.coetzee1 - 2011-12-08 13:42

      Anton> It is called Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

      Con - 2011-12-08 13:46

      Ag don't shame so easily boet, don't you watch international news ? Things are far worse in the so-called 'civilised' first world countries.

      joeballito - 2011-12-08 13:53

      Paul, excellent, new one for me.Must remember it!

      Jaco - 2011-12-08 13:53

      I am so glad we have Doctor Coetzee to inform us. And spelling out the pro-noun-cia-tion so nicely for those of us that are less clever. Thank you Paul. Now spend some time and read some real international newspapers. The world has 200 countries to be negative about. One New Zealand does not a global trend make.

      Craig - 2011-12-08 14:12

      It doesn't make any difference where else in the world it is happening, it wrong and embarrassing, two wrongs don't make a right, all protests and protesters should be held responsible for damages, litter, criminal activeties, committed, they should also be held responsible for the police time wasted controlling these unruly thugs.

      Jaco - 2011-12-08 14:16

      Craig, were these people engaging in wide-spread looting and pillaging? Did they burn cars and buildings? Read the article again.

      Ed - 2011-12-08 14:25

      PS: anton...you may wish to rather point a finger at the Brazilian government who have just gone ahead with legislation that will see the Amazon slashed to half its size over the next 20 years.

  • Peter - 2011-12-08 13:27

    Another fantastic example of South African democracy at work!

      Jaco - 2011-12-08 13:36

      Ja, luckily we shot and killed them when we had a real democracy. We imprisoned journalists writing about it. So Peter. Do you follow international news at all? Do you think protests only happen in South Africa? Only Souf Efricans strike? Or Efricans? Clearly you have never read one book or newspaper that wasn't printed and scanned by your church elders.

      Kenny - 2011-12-08 13:54

      Hey jaco, i think you forgot to go and fetch your months ritilin at the pharmacy

      Jaco - 2011-12-08 14:13

      Thank goodness we have medication for ADHD. Unfortunately there is no cure for a general disinterest in global realities.

      Kenny - 2011-12-08 14:16

      jaco, if you are so obsessed with what is happening in other countries then move.

      Jaco - 2011-12-08 14:21

      Thank you for the advice Kenny. I am obsessed with other countries and I should move? Well, in that line of reasoning you are obsessed with the ANC thus you should vote for them. I am sure you are capable of relatively comprehensive arguments. This was not one of your best.

      Kenny - 2011-12-08 14:25

      where did i say im obsesed with the anc? Time to drink that ritilin now.

      Jaco - 2011-12-08 14:31

      Where did I say I am obsessed with other countries? Good luck with the matric exam next year Kenny!

      Kenny - 2011-12-08 14:41

      Im only doing gr8 next year, but thanks

      Blade - 2011-12-08 16:53

      @Kenny how does it feel to be 19 years of age in grade 7?

      Kenny - 2011-12-08 17:07

      Eish im saffaring

  • Zander - 2011-12-08 13:27

    SORT OUT THE COUNTRY, THEN FOCUS ON THE CLIMATE.

      Patrick - 2011-12-08 13:29

      Lol, by that time it'll be too late :)

      stefan.vanderspuy - 2011-12-08 14:16

      Yes!! - by then there will be less "country" to sort out, because the coastal towns and cities will all be under water...

      Anton - 2011-12-08 14:30

      That way the poor climate will never get a chance.

  • Mike_or_Mpho - 2011-12-08 13:29

    The African way, classic!

      Jaco - 2011-12-08 13:35

      African way? Do you read global news? At all? No, because you live in efrica.

  • Dewald G. - 2011-12-08 13:30

    There is a storm brewing...

  • Deon - 2011-12-08 13:36

    Some thought it is the ANC conference, only next December chaps.

  • Maverick82 - 2011-12-08 13:47

    Welcome to South Africa

      Jaco - 2011-12-08 13:51

      Yes Maverick. Only in South Africa? Depends on where you get your global information from. Mostly uniformed. But happily bitter down south. Good on ya mate.

  • blaqmonk - 2011-12-08 14:00

    i find it amazing how you all readily blame the ANC for everything chaotic, i do not support the ANC, never have voted for them but you guys are always using it as a scape-goat, if you'd read the article you'd know that the people involved in the chaos were people from different civil groups and nowhere in the article does it attribute the chaos to factions of the ANC so what do you morons base your "its ANCYL hooligans" on? Grow up and start thinking beyond skin colour and help us all build this country, either that or jump the boat before it "inevitably sinks" as you all doomsayers predict nx. idiots

      Jaco - 2011-12-08 14:03

      Blaqmonk, apparently South Africa is the only country in the world where protests happen. Luckily most posters on this forum spend all their waking minutes linking every event to the one thing they hate most (the ANC). This makes them very very unproductive employees, me thinks.

      Barefoot - 2011-12-08 14:12

      yeah there was never an occupy wall street movement that was dispersed by the police- u only find protesters in Africa probably Greenspeace was started by the ANC

      blaqmonk - 2011-12-08 14:27

      They seriously need to do some self-introspection, people who have too much time on their hands have too much time to prove how idiotic they really are, me thinks!

      Sarah - 2011-12-08 14:35

      please re-read. the chaos was not caused by the peaceful protesters, but by so-called "volunteers' - who are being paid to show delegates around the city.

  • Sharon - 2011-12-08 14:07

    So true Joe but could we have expected anything else...

      Jaco - 2011-12-08 14:09

      I don't know Sharon? A minor scuffle between two groups in a hall. Oh the horror! The horror! Sharon, quickly google Seattle WTO and get back to me.

      blaqmonk - 2011-12-08 14:28

      people's perceptions need to change eish.

      Chocobutter - 2011-12-08 14:33

      just go to Congo Sharon you'll be fine there.....south Africa is bad for you

  • Graham - 2011-12-08 14:11

    COP, Global warming, carbon tax, new energy saving globes that cost 10 times more. It shows how people can't read between the lines. Bunch of weak minds. These people are lying to you. If we pay carbon tax, what are they going to do with that money? If you pay tax you must receive a service. Are the going to build a mashien that will take the carbon out the air? lol. These people are only after your money and they are playing you people. We all breath out carbon, trees give of carbon at night. I wonder what service are you all going to get for paying Carbon Tax.......nothing?

  • Jono - 2011-12-08 14:11

    I hate the word comrades....um it's all over people...there is no struggle anymore so get with the times!!!

      Flowingriver - 2011-12-08 14:43

      Maybe we shud change the name of the marathon too!

  • ludlowdj - 2011-12-08 15:17

    at the end of the day any agreement that does not include all players is dead in the water before it begins.

  • Kenny - 2011-12-08 15:39

    Haha, now our true colours are shown to the whole of the world. Eish it great in africa

  • Irene - 2011-12-08 15:50

    Don't know what they're all getting excited about. The conference is a complete joke and waste of money. Global warming is happening whether you like it or not but best of all ..... THERE IS NOTHING, I REPEAT, NOTHING THAT ANYONE CAN ACTUALLY DO ABOUT IT!!!!!

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