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Coelacanth even older than thought

2012-04-11 20:37

Paris - The coelacanth, a "living fossil" fish that pre-dates the dinosaurs, is some 17 million years older than previously thought, scientists have found.

The earliest known skull of a coelacanth, unearthed in Yunnan, China dates the fish in its current shape to about 400 million years ago, according to research by the Chinese Academy of Sciences published on Tuesday in Nature Communications.

Coelacanths peaked in abundance about 240 million years ago.

They were thought to have died out around 65 million years ago until one was caught off South Africa in 1938.

Closely related to the lungfish, coelacanths usually live at depths of between 200 and 1 000m. Greyish-brown with spots, they can grow up to 2m in length and weigh as much as 91kg.

Comments
  • hc12345 - 2012-04-11 21:36

    I wonder why they did not evolve? Maybe because evolution is just a theory as nothing has been proven!! It takes more faith to believe in evolution than to believe that Almighty God created everything.

      Crracker - 2012-04-11 21:44

      All on record and ALL proven. End of dialogue. Just to add, check out the many different denominations and beliefs that really HATE each other and fight for supremacy in the religious sphere. Now that remains a mystery that THEY have not stayed uniform or evolved into something uniform. Dialogue now closed!

      Crracker - 2012-04-11 21:44

      All on record and ALL proven. End of dialogue. Just to add, check out the many different denominations and beliefs that really HATE each other and fight for supremacy in the religious sphere. Now that remains a mystery that THEY have not stayed uniform or evolved into something uniform. Dialogue now closed!

      louis.pienaar1 - 2012-04-12 04:06

      Just because the original line of species is still there does not mean a species did not evolve. a mutation only needs to take place in one individual and from there in its family tree for it to evolve.

      louis.pienaar1 - 2012-04-12 04:06

      Just because the original line of species is still there does not mean a species did not evolve. a mutation only needs to take place in one individual and from there in its family tree for it to evolve.

      Phoenix - 2012-04-12 09:58

      Oh DG! Another person who does NOT understand what a theory in science is. Please, seriously, eductae yourself before spewing such absolute nonsense.

      Phoenix - 2012-04-12 09:58

      Oh DG! Another person who does NOT understand what a theory in science is. Please, seriously, eductae yourself before spewing such absolute nonsense.

      Wp - 2012-04-12 20:23

      If a dog-year is 7 human years, then surely a caelocanth can live much longer than a dog of 140

      Wp - 2012-04-12 20:23

      If a dog-year is 7 human years, then surely a caelocanth can live much longer than a dog of 140

  • Wp - 2012-04-11 21:37

    How could it possibly be millions of years old? It can't live to be more than a hundred or so!?! Unless we're talking in fish-years...

      Louis - 2012-04-11 21:48

      The SPECIES, not the one fish...

      Louis - 2012-04-11 21:48

      The SPECIES, not the one fish...

      ryan.macdougall - 2012-04-12 07:56

      i refuse to live on this planet anymore

      ryan.macdougall - 2012-04-12 07:56

      i refuse to live on this planet anymore

      SkyLukeWater - 2012-04-12 09:22

      WP, you're obviously being mentored by Malema!

      SkyLukeWater - 2012-04-12 09:22

      WP, you're obviously being mentored by Malema!

      bradly.kingsley - 2012-04-12 11:26

      *facepalm*

      bradly.kingsley - 2012-04-12 11:26

      *facepalm*

      Michael - 2012-04-13 15:01

      Are we not supposed to be the most advanced creature on this planet? WP, you have just changed the way I look at the human race....

      Michael - 2012-04-13 15:01

      Are we not supposed to be the most advanced creature on this planet? WP, you have just changed the way I look at the human race....

  • primalaction - 2012-04-12 05:16

    The fossil that refused to evolve!

  • Shaun - 2012-04-12 08:15

    I love how Evolutionists like to sprout their religion like it's fact... Ha ha ha ha ha.... Crazy, it survived Millllllllliiioooooonnnnssss of years without a change..... Ha ha ha ha ha "In the beginning, there was nothing, and nothing exploded"

      gordcragg - 2012-04-12 08:27

      Good thing your ignorance prevents you from realising how embarrassing the stupidity of your comment is. It always astounds me how people without even minimal understanding of certain things are so confident in expressing their views.

      gordcragg - 2012-04-12 08:27

      Good thing your ignorance prevents you from realising how embarrassing the stupidity of your comment is. It always astounds me how people without even minimal understanding of certain things are so confident in expressing their views.

      Shaun - 2012-04-12 08:36

      My ignorance??? Ha ha ha ha, actually sir you believe we came from a rock... Ha ha ha ha, it is not ignorance that amuses me it is the passion for which atheists follow their religion that amuses me....

      Shaun - 2012-04-12 08:36

      My ignorance??? Ha ha ha ha, actually sir you believe we came from a rock... Ha ha ha ha, it is not ignorance that amuses me it is the passion for which atheists follow their religion that amuses me....

      gordcragg - 2012-04-12 08:46

      Evolution has absolutely ZERO to do with abiogenesis. Another clear display of your ignorance! What science teacher failed you by telling you evolution claims we came from rocks?? Do a little reading and stop trusting your Sunday school teacher when it comes to questions of science before you embarrass yourself further.

      gordcragg - 2012-04-12 08:46

      Evolution has absolutely ZERO to do with abiogenesis. Another clear display of your ignorance! What science teacher failed you by telling you evolution claims we came from rocks?? Do a little reading and stop trusting your Sunday school teacher when it comes to questions of science before you embarrass yourself further.

      Horst - 2012-04-12 09:00

      And you Shaun came from dust, which originated from rock. 7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul

      Horst - 2012-04-12 09:00

      And you Shaun came from dust, which originated from rock. 7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul

      louis.pienaar1 - 2012-04-12 09:42

      I take pity on people that try to connect evolution to a religion. There are many christian that happily talk about evolution with the basis that god works in and around it. I see religion as part of the human process of evolution. I love the thing my christian dad (with a strong understanding of evolution) always told me, '' Your dad might have been an ape, but not mine''

      louis.pienaar1 - 2012-04-12 09:42

      I take pity on people that try to connect evolution to a religion. There are many christian that happily talk about evolution with the basis that god works in and around it. I see religion as part of the human process of evolution. I love the thing my christian dad (with a strong understanding of evolution) always told me, '' Your dad might have been an ape, but not mine''

      Phoenix - 2012-04-12 09:59

      You are an idiot.

      Phoenix - 2012-04-12 09:59

      You are an idiot.

      Michael - 2012-04-13 15:03

      I think you should recieve a Darwin award....F(^$%^g genius...

      Michael - 2012-04-13 15:03

      I think you should recieve a Darwin award....F(^$%^g genius...

  • Wp - 2012-04-12 20:39

    Apparently, I heard, it all depends on oxygen levels... But still,for a fish to live to a million years old is unheardof, even in fish-years

      Michael - 2012-04-13 15:05

      WP...Run boy run, you killing me...

      Michael - 2012-04-13 15:05

      WP...Run boy run, you killing me...

  • Grant - 2012-04-12 20:59

    How do they determine the age of the fossil? 1. By Radioactive dating -- we all know how inaccurate that has proved to be (and only by selecting the "right" dating material and choosing all the "right" assumptions we might come to an age similar to our belief of the age. 2. By looking at other fossils in the strata (which in turn were dated by other fossils, which in turn were dated by yet other fossils... (endless loop)). 3. By looking at the rock and trying to figure out how old the rock was that formed, making so many assumptions that "fit" in with our belief systems. We can see how ridiculous this research is by the fact that they have added 17 million to 400 million years (no-one can ever do these predictions accurately, it is simply a prediction to cover up an embarrassment of evidence (probably point 2 above) not fitting together, so we will squeeze it together to force a fit.

      Garhul - 2012-04-12 22:09

      Of course you could carefully add up the generations of the bible to accurately determine that the earth was created on the evening before Sunday, 23 October 4004 BC, so much more accurate and open to reason than any other method...

      Garhul - 2012-04-12 22:09

      Of course you could carefully add up the generations of the bible to accurately determine that the earth was created on the evening before Sunday, 23 October 4004 BC, so much more accurate and open to reason than any other method...

      Garhul - 2012-04-12 22:09

      Of course you could carefully add up the generations of the bible to accurately determine that the earth was created on the evening before Sunday, 23 October 4004 BC, so much more accurate and open to reason than any other method...

      Garhul - 2012-04-12 22:09

      Of course you could carefully add up the generations of the bible to accurately determine that the earth was created on the evening before Sunday, 23 October 4004 BC, so much more accurate and open to reason than any other method...

  • edward.herbst - 2012-04-14 11:36

    maybe the fish found a ring just like gollum did when he was a mere amoeba swimming in the primordial soup of ancient gondor .which then transformed it into the deformed twisted evil fish it is today and also accounts for its extremely long life .. PS must be lots of those rings down there cos it is not the first one they found either.

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