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New particle find a 'milestone'

2012-07-04 11:55

Geneva - After a quest spanning nearly half a century, physicists on Wednesday said they had found a new sub-atomic particle consistent with the Higgs boson which is believed to confer mass.

Rousing cheers and a standing ovation broke out at the European Organisation for Nuclear Research (Cern) after scientists presented data in their long search for the mysterious particle.

The new find is "consistent with [the] long-sought Higgs boson," Cern declared in a statement.

It added further data was needed to identify the find.

"We have reached a milestone in our understanding of nature," said Cern director general Rolf Heuer.

"The discovery of a particle consistent with the Higgs boson opens the way to more detailed studies, requiring larger statistics, which will pin down the new particle's properties, and is likely to shed light on other mysteries of our universe."

Standard Model

Peter Higgs, a shy, soft-spoken British physicist who published the conceptual groundwork for the particle, back in 1964, expressed joy.

"I never expected this to happen in my lifetime and shall be asking my family to put some champagne in the fridge," he said in a statement issued by the University of Edinburgh, where he was a professor.

Finding the Higgs would validate the Standard Model, a theory which identifies the building blocks for matter and the particles that convey fundamental forces.

It is a hugely successful theory but has several gaps, the biggest of which is why some particles have mass but others do not.

Mooted by Higgs and several others, the boson is believed to exist in a treacly, invisible, ubiquitous field created by the Big Bang some 13.7 billion years ago.

When some particles encounter the Higgs, they slow down and acquire mass, according to the theory. Others, such as particles of light, encounter no obstacle.

Cern uses a giant underground laboratory where protons are smashed together at nearly the speed of light, yielding sub-atomic debris that is then scrutinised for signs of the fleeting Higgs.

New particle

The task is arduous because there are trillions of signals, occurring among particles at different ranges of mass.

Over the years, tens of thousands of physicists and billions of dollars have been thrown into the search for the Higgs, gradually narrowing down the mass range where it might exist.

Two Cern laboratories, working independently of each other to avoid bias, found the new particle in the mass region of around 125 - 126 Gigaelectronvolts (GeV), according to data they presented on Wednesday.

Both said that the results were "five sigma", meaning there was just a 0.00006% chance that what the two laboratories found is a mathematical quirk.

"The results are preliminary but the five sigma signal at around 125GeV we're seeing is dramatic," said Joe Incandela, spokesperson for one of the two experiments.

"This is indeed a new particle. We know it must be a boson and it's the heaviest boson ever found. The implications are very significant and it is precisely for this reason that we must be extremely diligent in all of our studies and cross-checks."

Scientists began to pore over what the historic find could mean.

'New theory'

"[The Higgs] has been anticipated for more than four decades and were it not there theorists all over the world would have been back to their drawing boards in desperation," said Anthony Thomas at the University of Adelaide in Australia.

Cern physicist Yves Sirois agreed.

"This could the Higgs boson that has been found, which may shed light on how matter came into being at the very start of the Universe, a thousandth of a billionth of a second after the Big Bang," he said.

"It may be the Higgs boson, but it may also be something far bigger, which opens the door toward a new theory that goes beyond the Standard Model."

Comments
  • David - 2012-07-04 12:01

    Really fascinating. Awesome news. Now to continue with the quest to learn more about our universe and world.

      nick.krige - 2012-07-04 12:07

      And how to make hoverboards

      David - 2012-07-04 12:12

      Personally i would like to see them putting more effort into making a light saber or cloning dinosaurs.

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-07-04 12:24

      ""It may be the Higgs boson, but it may also be something far bigger, which opens the door toward a new theory that goes beyond the Standard Model." I like this, the possibilities of what this suggests are simply miraculous

      downwiththeANC - 2012-07-04 13:10

      Do you think we will be able to find out how to travel in time...like in a time machine? If the big bang theory is true, will we be able to travel back in time before the big bang? Suppose that will be impossible or am i wrong?

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-07-04 13:17

      Deluded, the day I get a straight answer from you, we'll talk. God choosing not to reinvent the wheel with every strand of DNA, is the evidece of His Intelligent Design. Can you argue against that?

      downwiththeANC - 2012-07-04 13:35

      The more we discover the more questions arise. Eish

      william.harris.90226 - 2012-07-04 13:50

      @Delusionbuster As a Christian, I reject the idea of common descent. It is wishful science at its glowing best. In fact it is not a science, but a theory for which the so called 'evidence' is so vague, in that it points to a myriad of different possibilities. The very likenesses among organisms that evolutionists believe points to common descent, in actual fact, points to a common Creator. Every artist has his signature... All Pablo Picasso's artworks are instantly recognizable as his work, even after never seeing the piece. But nobody suggests that one piece arises from another. That's just ludicrous...

      skootzie - 2012-07-04 17:42

      // I reject the idea of common descent. // An apt analogy would be me pointing at a car and telling you it's a car and you flat out refusing to believe me and telling me that it's not - contrary to all the available evidence in front of you. // The very likenesses among organisms that evolutionists believe points to common descent, in actual fact, points to a common Creator. // How so? How does an ape sharing 95% of it's DNA with humans point to a creator? Or a whale sharing DNA with a hippo point to a creator? PLEASE spell out this path of logic you have taken to reach such a conclusion because I can't, for the life of me, even begin to speculate where to start. .. Did you just seriously equate artwork to evolution? o.O

      prom.za.9 - 2012-07-05 05:59

      Delusional, take your filth elsewhere. This is not a discussion about superstitions like evolution.

      prom.za.9 - 2012-07-05 07:57

      @Mememan: Michael Ruse has subsequently changed his stance. I wouldn't like being that judge now after relying part and parcel on his testimony. Courts also don't decide what is truth and what is not.

  • eddy.deepfield - 2012-07-04 12:03

    No where for creationists to hide. The Theory of the Big Bang and the Theory of Evolution has sent the Godly scurrying into their caves as a god is not required to explain origins. Great day for mankind, bad day for the superstitious. Now creationists must really apply their faith as before this announcement the Big Bang rested on assumptions. Now it is a proven fact to the order of 99.99%. Before there might have been a god now there is NO god. This proves that what scientists have said about the universe and its age is correct. The world is not six thousand years old wither you believe it or not.

      David - 2012-07-04 12:10

      Eddy, i personally am very impressed with these results and i hold these scientist in very high regard, but please don't continue to try bring in religion. I am an atheists, but i can not disprove the possibility that there was a higher power involved much like i can't disprove that their is a tea cup orbiting pluto. However what i would caution you with it that you personally are unable to validate these results and therefor you are taking this claim on "faith", much like how the religious will hold to their belief on faith.

      neville.mclean - 2012-07-04 12:11

      Wow eddy, angry words there. Im not a scientist, so could u please explain to me how this awesome discovery of what gives matter mass means for God's existence? How does this explain God away?

      chikunga - 2012-07-04 12:14

      have you also discovered that God did not say let there be a higgs boson partcle and it was there. plizzz spare us.you cant even convince yourself that God does not exist

      shane.hay.71 - 2012-07-04 12:15

      What caused the big bang then! Maybe God!

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-07-04 12:25

      David, it proves that the universe is older than six thousand years as it gives factual evidence to what scientists have been saying. They now know that the big bang happened. This was 13.75 billion years ago. Bible God created the universe six thousand years ago. Which one is correct?

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-07-04 12:25

      LOL@Eddy, where do you read that this find, once it's confirmed, is in opposition to God ??? Are you mad? This will only stregthen our Creators' existence and proof of His amazingly complex Intelligent Design. This is GREAT news !!!

      william.harris.90226 - 2012-07-04 12:33

      I am loving this! This is going to eventually be a nail in the coffin of the evolutionist theory. Everything is just pointing to a God Creator that assembled all these processes into place.

      alan.gernet - 2012-07-04 12:33

      I fear this is all A Bridge Too Far for you Eddy. You lack of logic and knowledge is truly astounding! I have just discovered the EddyOrafaceParticle which proves the existence of Black Holes.

      napolita.kio - 2012-07-04 12:36

      Hahaha...oh dear!! Eddy, did you even finish reading the first line. Ok, here is the last part of the line "...consistent with the Higgs boson which is believed to confer mass." Oh in case you don't catch the drift, look at the fourth word from the last. Still lost, alright here it is "believed"!! Just in case: Believe => Accepting an assertion as true without proving it. Knowledge => Believing in that which is true. Yeah, that's epistemic but heck there you have it. Hahaaa...!!

      alan.gernet - 2012-07-04 12:38

      enlighten me please O-Eddy-Particle. Where does the Bible say that?

      JohanCduToit - 2012-07-04 12:42

      There are already many things in the Bible that we know today is false. One more scientific discovery is not going to make any difference. Some people have a desperate need to believe in some or other god, and nothing will change their mind. They need it to survive, and cannot live without it.

      alan.gernet - 2012-07-04 12:45

      Er Johan - have you ever studied the Bible and been taught how to put that history book into context of the times? Thought not.

      Francois - 2012-07-04 12:45

      Oi, dear Eddy, where one earth did you get the idea that Big Bang theory and the version of creation in Genesis are mutually exclusive? I smell here something of an a priori disposition that is anti-God regardless, and that would grab at anything to prove yourself right. How about some really serious searching for truth? And have you read Schroeder's book "Genesis and the Big Bang" yet? Time to get serious, buddy!

      JohanCduToit - 2012-07-04 12:52

      alan.gernet, I rest my case.

      David - 2012-07-04 12:55

      You see Eddy....you are just as bad as any of those religious zealots. Your making an unsubstantiated stance, based on a uncompromising position that allows for little to no navigation around differing interpretation.

      alan.gernet - 2012-07-04 13:09

      @Johan - actually - I rest mine! Easy to make stupid comments based on personal perception. P{rolem lies in where youcannot back your statements up and have to try to divert attention to save face.

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-07-04 13:14

      Charles and co. - when it comes to the explanation of the whole shebang we are faced with basically two options, that, (1) something—anything—has always existed, or (2) something—anything—popped into existence out of nothing. Either choice seems extremely unlikely—or possibly even absurd. There is little in our experience that can help us choose. But one of them is correct and the other is false. We either start with the brute fact that something has always existed or the brute fact that something popped into existence out of nothing. So the simpler our brute fact is then the more probable it is, per Ockham's razor. All that scientists have to assume is an equilibrium of positive and negative energy and the laws of physics. This is as close to nothing as science can get. But grant it and physicist Victor Stenger argues “the probability for there being something rather than nothing can actually be calculated; it is over 60 percent.” As such, “only by the constant action of an agent outside the universe, such as God, could a state of nothingness be maintained. The fact that we have something is just what we would expect if there is no God.”

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-07-04 13:17

      By contrast I find it implausible to believe that a Triune God (3 persons in 1?) has always existed (what’s the likelihood of even one eternal God-person?) and will forever exist (even though our entire experience is that everything has a beginning and an ending) as a fully formed being (even though our entire experience is that order grows incrementally) who knows all true propositions (and consequently never learned any new ones), with all power (but doesn’t exercise it like we would if we saw a burning child), and who is present everywhere (and who knows what time it is everywhere in our universe even though time is a function of movement and bodily placement). How is it possible for this being to think or make choices or take risks (things that all involve weighing alternatives)? How could he have freely chosen who he is and what his values are, since there was never a previous time before he was who he is?

      wesleywt - 2012-07-04 13:19

      @neville. Well it confirms (again) that the big bang theory is accurate. Creationist are always saying it never occurred. Thats how it explains god away.

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-07-04 13:21

      Charles and co. - Are you postulating that a magic man made of nothing who existed always poofed matter and everything else into existence out of nothing before there was time to "cause" anything? Do you think THAT is a coherent answer to universe origins or something? Do you even have a coherent explanation for universe origins? Do you think that it's either your magical answer or that everything exists came from "thin air"? In your mind, if you can negate your straw man, does that make you feel like your magical explanation "wins"? Congratulations-- your indoctrinators have made you officially stupid! Go look up the term: "false dichotomy". You sound utterly insane to me, so I'm not sure why I keep responding. I guess I hope you are lucky enough to look back and see how insane you sound to some future more rational version of yourself-- or maybe that others can avoid have their brain scrambled the ways yours has been.

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-07-04 13:26

      I get my science from scientists... Krauss for universe origins (though Hawking and Stenger are excellent too) --not those who imagine themselves saved for what they believe (or damned for doubt). I recommended that everyone interested in the truth do the same. Moreover, unlike , creationists when I don't know something I don't pretend that "proves" my magical explanation is a real answer-- I just say "I don't know". I've found that when scientists don't know an answer-- that those gurus posting magical answers don't know either-- they just imagine they do-- exactly like those who thought Zeus was sending lightning and that demons were causing illness and that witches were real-- exactly like all believers in myths past.

      mbossenger - 2012-07-04 13:31

      "This is going to eventually be a nail in the coffin of the evolutionist theory." - You do realise this discovery has nothing to do with evolutionary theory, don't you? Or are you using a weird Kent Hovind definition of evolution?

      prom.za.9 - 2012-07-05 07:21

      No Eddy you are the one sounding insane here. This discovery explains absolutely nothing. The big bang wasn't proven before and it won't be even if this is the legendary Higgs Boson. Even if the big bang happened it still does not disprove God as many religious people already believe in the BB theory and it does not give a certainty to the age of the universe. Something was discovered but it could also still be another particle altogether. Even if it's not science can never disprove God. You suffer from evolutionist syndrome like so many others that misuse science to try and back up their own insecure beliefs.

  • Vicnesh - 2012-07-04 12:06

    like Zuma said it time for the "Second transition"

  • poloyatonkim - 2012-07-04 12:07

    Where are the bible junkies?

      alan.gernet - 2012-07-04 12:34

      Here we are Polo. Kindergarten out for the day?

      Francois - 2012-07-04 12:47

      Also here, Polo! But only if you are serious about Truth, and not simply looking for a food fight for the sole reason of trashing the dining room.

      zaatheist - 2012-07-04 15:35

      They are here spewing the usual bollocks and wishful thinking.

  • Vicnesh - 2012-07-04 12:08

    Congratulations great find ,The study of the universe can only benefit from this .

      alan.gernet - 2012-07-04 12:35

      Unless we self destruct the world in the next 40-50 years as science predicts.

  • chikunga - 2012-07-04 12:15

    and God created the higgs boson partcle

      Amani - 2012-07-04 12:26

      If that reasoning makes you sleep well at night then proceed with your denial.

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-07-04 12:26

      God created everything, so YES !!!

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-07-04 12:30

      No, it was all ways there. Who created God or was he also all ways there?

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-07-04 12:39

      Eddy, don't lie for atheism now. it's wasn't always there. that's why you believe in the Big Bang. so stop lying for atheism please? The Eternal God requires no creator. Which part are you battling to understand?

      jurgen.eksteen - 2012-07-04 12:40

      @EddyDeepfield, God was not created ... He is the Creator. He has always been there. He is outside of time for time is part of creation.

      alan.gernet - 2012-07-04 12:40

      See Eddy-Particle - there are some things we just cannot explain - they are bigger than out human understanding. But the evidence makes a great case for Faith!

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-07-04 12:50

      Charles and co. - when it comes to the explanation of the whole shebang we are faced with basically two options, that, (1) something—anything—has always existed, or (2) something—anything—popped into existence out of nothing. Either choice seems extremely unlikely—or possibly even absurd. There is little in our experience that can help us choose. But one of them is correct and the other is false. We either start with the brute fact that something has always existed or the brute fact that something popped into existence out of nothing. So the simpler our brute fact is then the more probable it is, per Ockham's razor. All that scientists have to assume is an equilibrium of positive and negative energy and the laws of physics. This is as close to nothing as science can get. But grant it and physicist Victor Stenger argues “the probability for there being something rather than nothing can actually be calculated; it is over 60 percent.” As such, “only by the constant action of an agent outside the universe, such as God, could a state of nothingness be maintained. The fact that we have something is just what we would expect if there is no God.”

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-07-04 12:51

      Oh please. Where is this god of yours then? No one has ever met or spoken to him, so how do you know he exists? Faith is not a reason.

      nrgx.nrg - 2012-07-04 12:52

      I would like to state that the creationists on this forum are such opportunists and hypocrites. At first when the "god particle" was discussed, you all were up in arms preaching "IT CANT BE", the universe is 6000 years old blah blah etc etc. NOW, scientists confirm the particle and you have flip flopped your original denial and begin the old adage...GOD DID IT! Dont get me wrong, I have nothing against your beliefs and faith, just stick to your guns as this just confirms to me that you would prefer to be blindly faithful even when tangible evidence is presented. In future I would suggest you refrain from commenting on scientific fact, as you so BOLDLY state us "atheists" should refrain from discussing religion.

      jman.man.71 - 2012-07-04 13:03

      "The Eternal God requires no creator" "God was not created ... He is the Creator. He has always been there. He is outside of time for time is part of creation" AHHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAA These "explanations" are priceless!

      alan.gernet - 2012-07-04 13:11

      and your explanation J-Man is....? hmmmm

      mbossenger - 2012-07-04 13:17

      "God created everything, so YES !!!" - Including satan and hell then?

      gany.mede.752 - 2012-07-04 13:21

      maybe there is a god who created everything but it IS NOT your god of the bible and it is NOT your JESUS of the bible. so grow up get a life and stop living by the ramblings of a 2000 year old book.

      mbossenger - 2012-07-04 13:21

      "The Eternal God requires no creator. Which part are you battling to understand?" - Your own logic is that everything complex requires a creator, so god (apparently an incredibly complex being) would ergo require a creator.

  • dawood.phoplonker - 2012-07-04 12:19

    What a collossal waste of time! I do have a great deal of respect for the scientific community and intelligence in general BUT only when the intelligence is put to good use. I bet that not a single one of those geniuses can tell me how "tens of thousands of physicists and billions of dollars have been thrown into the search" actually benefits humanity

      Greg - 2012-07-04 12:23

      It will answer the questions that humanity have asked since the beginning of time. Were did we come from? An answer to that question would be of HUGE importance for humanity.

      chris.cunning.14 - 2012-07-04 12:29

      You cannot understand how it benefits humanity? We driving cars, flying airplanes, using computers, traveling to the moon (to mention but a FEW) and you go and ask a stupid question about how it benefits humanity? I think you've been awarded the plank award for the year, here is your "prize"

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-07-04 12:32

      You must be a product of Christianity. It means we will one day leave earth for other stars as science advances. I suppose most things out side the Bible are above your head. It also proves the Big Bang.

      alan.gernet - 2012-07-04 12:42

      Er Eddy-Partice - the only proof on display is that your parent's big-bang may have gone horribly wrong!

      dawood.phoplonker - 2012-07-04 12:51

      @chris.cunning.14 "driving cars, flying airplanes, using computers, traveling to the moon etc." You've mentioned things that benefit Humanity is some way or another. Again, I'm asking YOU (mr know-it-all) how this THIS benefit humanity. I am Muslim yet I mentioned nothing about religion. I believe that ppl are entitled to their to their own beliefs whatever it may be. I'm not against science, maybe scientists need to prioritize.

      adriaan.erasmus.za - 2012-07-04 13:03

      @greg.meyer.543: We should be asking where we are going.

      gany.mede.752 - 2012-07-04 13:23

      lol. how infinitly arrogant of you.

      Amani - 2012-07-04 13:24

      This is how it benefits humanity. Sir Tim Berners-lee was/is a scientist at the CERN project and it was while he was working on this billion dollar project that he invented the World Wide Web, this he did in order to handle the immense amount of data that was being acquired within the project and also to communicate with other scientists involved in the project etc. The benefits that humanity derives from the internet need no explanation. Apart from the internet, the amount invention and innovation that has gone into the CERN project has over the years trickled down to numerous important technologies which include that thingymajiggy you're using now to read this comment.

      chris.cunning.14 - 2012-07-04 13:29

      @dawood: This benefit right now at this exact moment is fairly difficult to put a price on, since all other scientific discoveries took time to be brought into our homes and lives. Perhaps when science lets us live for an extra 300 years and we flying in between the stars like the dudes from ster trek then I can say "See dawood, see how its benefited humanity" Cool so you Muslim, so where exactly did I mention anything regarding religion? Everyone is entitled to do what they feel passionate about, some enjoy going to these extreme limits, others prefer medical science. In most cases computers have helped us beat alot of odds in calculations when it comes to medicine and a number of other studies. These experiments will in the times to come have benefits to save energy, increase our computing power which all results in a better life for all. Regards, Mr Know-it-all

      tmbristow - 2012-07-04 14:16

      Wow... You are really unfortunate to not realise all the potential and possibilities!!!! I don't think you realise just how much good comes from this. There are thousands of particle accelerators around the world used for medical research. This goes towards treating cancer, for example! The INTERNET was born at CERN. Computers advanced a HUGE deal from this. I mean, there are soooo many things that have come from this. If you don't think that treating cancer is good for humanity, or if the internet is a bad thing then hey... I can't reason with you :P

  • ben.louw.5 - 2012-07-04 12:21

    Pure unadulterated WIN!!!! This is so awesome!

  • franklyn.davies.1 - 2012-07-04 12:24

    you can never beat the godbots,even if you found a live tyrannosaur taking a dump in your backyard,God made it ALL,even if we didnt need him....

      gany.mede.752 - 2012-07-04 13:24

      love your comment - so true.

  • ashley.martin1 - 2012-07-04 12:28

    our first steps to becoming a type one civilization

      alan.gernet - 2012-07-04 12:51

      We gonna implant the particle into Juju and Co.?

  • thadelphukem.completely - 2012-07-04 12:29

    There is evidently real proof about one thing that God didn't create... A brain for Charles Dumbwin!!!!

      alan.gernet - 2012-07-04 12:42

      bit short of logic there ThadeldeeThadeldumm

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-07-04 12:42

      that actually made me giggle.

  • braam.olwage.1 - 2012-07-04 12:48

    awesome news, cant wait to hear more...incredibly funny to notice some godbots trying to troll this one...

      Amani - 2012-07-04 12:57

      Godbots work in mysterious ways; discoveries that implicitly debunk their beliefs somehow seem to strengthen their beliefs. Bad programming.

  • monde.sibisi - 2012-07-04 12:55

    Finally!! Now we await the departure of Voyager 1 from our solar system, and Voyager 2 right behind it @ 60 000km/h via its back-up thrusters. I hope we don't lose communication like Pioneer 10

  • David Ibanez Freire - 2012-07-04 12:56

    I'll be sleeping more soundly tonight.

  • magomarele - 2012-07-04 12:59

    Ground-breaking stuff right there. I'll continue to follow these scientific developments.

  • braam.olwage.1 - 2012-07-04 13:02

    hahahhahaha omf i would love to know if the religious can enlighten me as to how the discovery of a new particle (supposedly the higgs boson which relates to other particles acquiring mass) has ANYTHING to do with god and your fairytale? please dumbwin, chikunga, alan.gernet, therealtruth Im gonna get me some popcorn will you try think of something witty to say...but please dont be shy im dying to hear your wisdom concerning this

      alan.gernet - 2012-07-04 13:31

      Well Braam, see if you read all the articles leading up to this one, there are a sect of aethiests (with no understanding of the Bible) who follow each other like lemmings, believing that the Big Bang THEORY and Christianity are mutually exclusive. For some reason, these lemmings seem to be a insecure with the belief that their lives, and everything else around them, are just here by chance. Insecure too, that when they die, they are gone for ever. So insecure are they, that they appear to want other people follow them, to make them feel a little better. The strange thing though, is that they spend an awful lot of their energy defending something that makes no difference to them, if their beliefs are correct. So, Braam... what I am saying is that these people are trying to mislead others into believing that the Higgies Bottom Particle disproves the existence of God. If the Huggies Butt Particle exists and is proved, it says neither that God does or does not exist. For me, just looking at the amazing creation around me, tells me that there is a God. My personal experiences convice me that there is a God. My Faith, gives my life meaning. Hope you are not choking on the Popcorn Particles.

      alan.gernet - 2012-07-04 13:46

      Thanks William.

      braam.olwage.1 - 2012-07-04 14:55

      Dear alan thx for the reply that was priceless...Its funny that u mention insecurity and lemmings behaviour...Since those kind of things one usually and rightfully associates with religion. Why are u here trolling a science article if u werent insecure...What group never allows for questioning and the enquiry into understanding the universe and reality. What group of people has tried to damn,hinder and suppress the progress of science and knowledge for hundreds of years. Ure compilation of ancient fairytales hardly suffices to serve as evidence of anything tbh. You and ure sect (hahahah funny choice of words youve employed) are just scared of accepting death and not being special. If a belief in a god is what gives ure life meaning bru im sorry but ure not spending enough time admiring the view or smelling the flowers.

      prom.za.9 - 2012-07-05 07:43

      Well said Alan. We continually have to hear from atheist zealots how evolution doesn't disprove God. Yeah got that when other religious people believe it. It's actually the other way around. If there was no evolution to believe in their beliefs would be screwed. No wait Dawkins said it could still be aliens. But oh no then he fcked that one up by saying they would have had to evolve. So without evolution God appears to be the only options. No wonder some are misusing science, any science, to try and prove their own insecure beliefs true.

  • arthur.hugh - 2012-07-04 13:10

    Brilliant.

  • vgwillemse - 2012-07-04 13:11

    Awesome, one step closer to Warp drive -yes I am a Star-trek fan..

      ben.louw.5 - 2012-07-04 13:32

      ...for now....

      RoyNexusSix - 2012-07-04 13:49

      Me too friend. Let's get that Higgs Fields switched off! Warp Speed! Switch mass off and MC-squared is not applicable anymore! The Cosmos beckons!

  • RoyNexusSix - 2012-07-04 13:25

    Mark this day - it's historical. In a 1000 years from now, we will commemorate it.

  • RoyNexusSix - 2012-07-04 13:32

    Implications: if it's a Boson particle (not sure yet but the scientists are working to confirm this - wish religious folk were this thorough with their sometimes outlandish claims) then we will be able to start investigation into what the Higgs Field is (at this stage a 'theoretical' field giving fundamental particles - i.e. us - mass but I don't think it will be theoretical for much longer). Once we understand the properties of this Field, we can start manipulating it - even nullify (switch it off) it. This means that without mass, faster-than-lightspeed is possible because the light-barrier applies to objects with mass (hence Einstein's Equation). But with no mass, unimaginable speeds are possible! From here to Mars in 20 mins? No problem!

  • Marco - 2012-07-04 13:33

    CAN ALL OF YOU DILDOS NOT READ A SCIENCE ARTICLE WITHOUT BRINGING IN RELIGION? FFCS ITS EMBARRASSING JUST READING YOUR CRAP

      mbossenger - 2012-07-04 13:37

      Don't be afraid of the caps lock button....

      RoyNexusSix - 2012-07-04 13:47

      I agree - the fundamentalists need to scurry away. This is a momentous day in the annals of Science! With profound implications for our civilization.

  • ben.louw.5 - 2012-07-04 15:57

    The Higgs boson walks into a church, the priest says "You can't be in here!" The Higgs boson says "But you can't have mass without me...

      chris.cunning.14 - 2012-07-04 16:29

      HAHAHAHAHA... Classic!

  • PikesNo1 - 2012-07-04 16:15

    It's like peeling an onion people... Tomorrow someone else will discover a smaller particle than this so called god particle.

      PikesNo1 - 2012-07-04 18:02

      The god particle gives atoms mass, so what gives the god particle mass? You are all chasing the wind.

  • sydney.kaseke1 - 2012-07-05 05:33

    Bigbang theory \lol\,who ever came up with this theory was confused,lost,clueless...,about what his talking about.

  • Aubrey - 2012-07-05 09:04

    Ok, what this means in Afrikaans (translated): Bozzon Higgs-deeltjie is 'n virtuele, Bosoons, die bedrag van die Higgs veld. Bates van die elementêre deeltjies en die kwaliteit van die deeltjies te wees om die hipotese te toets. In die populêre kultuur, as dit Bozzon Higgs "deeltjie van God, na die deeltjie van God, die Nobelprys vir fisika title wenner Leon Lederman m word genoem:. As die heelal is die antwoord, wat is die probleem (1993), wat die skrywer se eis insluit, en die deeltjies toon dat die taak van die? die struktuur van hierdie probleem te verstaan, is beskikbaar.

  • s.elliott1965 - 2012-07-05 13:44

    Schrodinger's cat proves that you will find what you looking for ...

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