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Shell makes water pledge in Karoo fracking

2011-09-01 14:30

Cape Town - Shell SA plans to store waste water generated from hydraulic fracturing (fracking) in the Karoo in containers to be appropriately disposed of later, said the company's upstream manager Jan Willem Eggink.

Addressing the Cape Town Press Club on Thursday, Eggink said the natural shale gas that would be produced from the fracking process, "typically lies thousands of metres below fresh water aquifers".

"So it is virtually impossible for liquid - or indeed gas - to reach drinking-water supplies through the localised cracks induced by fracking."

Eggink said that Shell would not compete for drinking water supplies in the arid Karoo region.

"We understand this is an important issue for people in the Karoo, particularly farmers, which is why we've made a clear pledge we will not compete for water in the Karoo during any stage of our operations," he said.

Eggink said that during the exploration phase Shell intended to bring water needed from elsewhere.

"If we proceed with the development phase, we will by that time have a better view on where the water can be sourced from. In addition we will review other solutions, such as importing water from rivers outside the Karoo," Eggink said.

He pledged that whatever solutions Shell came up with regarding water, it would discuss them with the local community.

Comments
  • Yogen - 2011-09-01 14:41

    Where do they intend to dispose of the waste water? Maybe in the underground mining reservoirs of Gauteng? or perhaps in the Gulf of Mexico where BP already did a number on the environment. These Multinationals are just capitalists! They don't care about the environment or people... just the bottom line...

      Andrew - 2011-09-01 15:08

      PROMISES and LIES!!! That's what we can expect from oil companies. SHELL is only interested in easy profits. They have a proven track record of environmental devastation!!

      victorp - 2011-09-01 15:21

      I could not have said it better myself.

      Johan - 2011-09-01 15:25

      It is amazing that these guys simply don't get the message. Bugger off we don't want you here.Even if you pump the water into golden containers, still, Go Away.

      Lucky Strike - 2011-09-01 15:28

      How can you promise this? Do they know how far away from everything and their favourite waste-dump - the sea - they are?

      DW - 2011-09-01 16:15

      "during the exploration phase Shell intended to bring water needed from elsewhere" - from where? Each well takes millions of litres in the exploration phase. And then they have to "store waste water generated from hydraulic fracturing (fracking) in the Karoo in containers to be appropriately disposed of later" - We are talking about millions and millions of litres. How do you get it back out of the ground once you have pumped it in? Where do you store all this water? Where do you intend to dispose of it? Stop with these vague answers. If you are not able to be up front, clear and transparent, then your reputation precedes you. The answer should be a clear and resounding NO! WE DO NOT WANT YOU OR YOUR BUSINESS MESSING WITH OUR ENVIRONMENT!

      REALIST - 2011-09-01 16:53

      Utter BS... it's still polluting the water! Much needed WATER! This is not a solution as it simply shifts the problem! I say if they keep up this nonsense we should simply refrain from supporting the Shell brand! FRACK-OFF SHELL!

  • Deadr4t - 2011-09-01 14:50

    Go Frack yourself Shell!

      Nathan Loftie-Eaton - 2011-09-01 15:23

      hahaha spot on!!

  • Oddearring - 2011-09-01 14:50

    Shell, f@@k off. When you have sorted out the mess you made in the Niger Delta, then you can come and talk to us.

  • 13th apostle - 2011-09-01 14:54

    my black ass!everyone knows a bribe will be paid and our dirty politicians will forsake his own people to line his pockets.

  • Owen Owen - 2011-09-01 14:54

    THIS MUST NOT HAPPEN I PROMISE THAT IF SHELL OR ANY COMPANY HAS TO START WITH THIS SHALE GAS ITS WILL HAVE DEVASTATING EFFECTS ON THE SOIL, WATER AND PEOPLE IN THE WHOLE GREATER AND SMALLER KAROO AREAS AND EVEN FURTHER !! i SAW WITH MY OWN EYES IN THE USA HOW PEOPLE HAVE BURNING FLAMES COMING OUT OF THE DRINKING TAPS IN THE HOUSE !!

  • DEVILS SON - 2011-09-01 14:56

    frack off you losers

      DEVILS SON - 2011-09-01 14:57

      shell in the words of malema...you are a small boy, go out....BASTARDS

      JMan - 2011-09-01 17:13

      did u just quote malema?? hehe..

      DEVILS SON - 2011-09-02 08:53

      malema has some ripper quotes,

  • heinerl - 2011-09-01 15:05

    My goodness they are brilliant to know where all the fresh water aquifers are. That way they could also solve the water shortish in the Karoo.

  • denlyn - 2011-09-01 15:07

    Shell go to hell and get your gas from your royal dutch country.

  • denlyn - 2011-09-01 15:09

    Guys promote the avoidance of shell petrol in rsa. then they will have to leave.

      Carlkotz - 2011-09-01 21:08

      I have stopped using Shell already. Shell get the message and FRACK OFF

  • JimBean@24.com - 2011-09-01 15:09

    FRACK OFF Shell ! We don't care what YOU want to do with the contaminated water.

  • Rooi gevaar - 2011-09-01 15:12

    I say we boycott the bastards filling stations if the start with any form of fracking. We protest day and night at their operations. People supplying anything boycott their operations in the Karoo, etc. Let's stop these exploiting bastards!

      Lovenergy - 2011-09-01 16:34

      I suggest we do this before they even start

  • FIO - 2011-09-01 15:14

    I dont use Shell service stations anymore, my little bit to boycott them. If we really are concerned about them, we should take a stand and boycott Shell in SA. Not that any other companies are much better, but I've worked with far too many mining and exploration companies who have made promises, never fulfilled them, and are prepared to pay for any fines dished out by due to non-compliance. The fines they pay are far cheaper than any preventative or remedial action. Fines dont work, as the damage is already done. Stuff Shell and all of them.

      Elaine - 2011-09-01 15:41

      Me too. I will rather run out of petrol and walk than use their products!

  • Ivym - 2011-09-01 15:15

    Frack off Shell, BP et al. See the documentary Gasland and then talk to us about your lies.

  • Shayne - 2011-09-01 15:15

    Dont be fooled. do not allow them to even drill one hole.

  • betha - 2011-09-01 15:16

    fracking lies

  • janfi - 2011-09-01 15:17

    They have no plan for treating this wastewater, or for how/where they will tranport it to treatment sites. Even in the U.S. the oil companies have been unable to process/clean the wastewater from fracking, as in many cases the technology doesn't exist, or there is no will to do the clean-up, and there have been many cases of contamination from fracking wastewater. SA doesn't even have the resources to handle cleaning up its existing sewage, most sewage is flowing raw into rivers and oceans. And then there's acid mine drainage. How is that clean-up going? Promising to put the fracking wastewater "in containers" is meaningless. Shell and other oil companies have no proposal for how or where they will clean the water!

  • CTScientist - 2011-09-01 15:21

    "Shell SA plans to store waste water generated from hydraulic fracturing (fracking) in the Karoo in containers to be appropriately disposed of later, said the company's upstream manager Jan Willem Eggink." When, exactly, is 'later'? And where do you propose to dump your waste?

      Alan - 2011-09-01 15:36

      yeah of course they do - just look at the disasters Shell have caused in Africa to see that all they give a damn about is $$$$$ Shell go to Hell

      sadikari - 2011-09-04 21:28

      as in the US, they will dump it in rivers - the Orange river probably the nearest

  • Lucky Strike - 2011-09-01 15:25

    How can you promise this? Do they know how far away from everything and their favourite waste-dump - the sea - they are?

  • victorp - 2011-09-01 15:27

    Our problem we sit with a Government that will accept handouts both personally and for so-called welfare projects. They have demonstrated that they don't care much for the citizens of this country as long as they keep paying tax.

  • onetickie - 2011-09-01 15:27

    @Yogen: Just what I've been wondering??? Being in the Karoo they can't just go dump and polute in the sea so maybe they should be made to explain just where this would be dumped. They don't give a damn about the environment and less so for people. They are just plain greedy. Everywhere in the world where there is strife it can be related back to money (greed) or religion. SA is a beautiful country. Thanks to current government it's cities have become havens for criminals/thugs who trash/litter wherever they go when they're not attacking, killing and raping it's people.

      sadikari - 2011-09-04 22:20

      in the nearest river most likely

  • Alan - 2011-09-01 15:34

    Yeah RIGHT! Seems like a bit of about turn by Shell who obviously now admit that there will be water contamination as a by product of raping Africa for profits. You just need to look at Shells environmental disasters in Africa to know that their pledges mean a big fat zero, and that environmental issues only receive lip service! Since this fracking came to light,I have done a lot of my own research and there is no way that fracking shold be allowed. The only way it can happen is by flashing dirty money to greedy and corrupt politicians. I refuse to ever again purchase any Shell products. We South Africans (and the rest of the world) need to stand up to greedy Corporations that only have profits in mind. Environmental issues should be everybody's no1 priority. I'm going Well without Shell.

  • TDP - 2011-09-01 15:38

    the natural shale gas that would be produced from the fracking process, "typically lies thousands of metres below fresh water aquifers". So that means the gas must pass through the fresh water aquifers to get to the surface! AND comtaminate the fresh water aquifers on the way

  • Johnny - 2011-09-01 15:42

    So now they want to store the waste water in special containers and dispose of it "later" (whatever that means). Not long ago they were assuring us that the very same waste water is not harmful. Are they therefore now admitting that they were lying previously?? You just cannot trust these people. Resist them with eveything within your power. We owe it to the following generations.

  • Elaine - 2011-09-01 15:42

    HOW THE H*LL SHOULD WE BELIEVE THEM?

      Alan - 2011-09-01 15:45

      Agree 100% with you - we all need to boycott Shell.

      Alan - 2011-09-01 15:46

      You cannot believe Shell - they have caused utter k*k throughout Africa with environmental pollution, and African politicians are easy targets for bribery.

  • Alan - 2011-09-01 15:43

    Guys - just go and read what Lewis Gordon Pugh (The amazing Human Polar Bear) has to say about Shell and fracking. We all need to stand up against Shell and dirty politicians to STOP this fracking proposal. Shell - stop raping Africa!

  • Chris Dreyer - 2011-09-01 16:04

    Funny that he use the words "virtually impossible". The use of these words imply that it might contaminate the water. This indicates a clever use of words for future excuses.

  • tmh - 2011-09-01 16:06

    My God if I hear another joke to the order of "frack you"... If Gaslands hadn't been made this whole deal would be a non-issue. Not much of a damn given to the suppliers of petrol and diesel yet people are so ready to flame alternative sources of energy. I think we can all stop complaining once we stop driving cars or eating food delivered by truck or using plastic products or clothing with dyes etc etc.

      Sharkie - 2011-09-01 16:17

      Sadly true...

      sadikari - 2011-09-04 21:31

      GASLAND is one reason why the rest of the world found out quicker about what is happening in the US,where 63 municipalities have now either banned or placed a moratorium on fracking. Interestingly the FRENCH government banned "fracking" in July this year

  • PDS - 2011-09-01 16:08

    Wow, the emotion surprises me. But lets think a bit. South African unemployment between 25 and 30% (if not higher). Massive poverty problems. Can we really afford to react so emotionally? The truth is South Africa needs development. We need investment. We need jobs. Yes, there is always a cost involved in development but imagine if a massive reserve of gas was found? What if we did not have to rely on other fuel producers? What if this boosted our GDP by 20%? Yes, Shell will make money, but so will South Africa. Can we honestly afford not to take a serious look at this?

      Alan - 2011-09-01 16:13

      Disagree completely - The environment is more important that money and greed. Remember that what happens to the world, happens to the inhabitants of the word. We are already on the edge of no return, and it's time people woke up, and stood up to these Environmental rapists. Shell have proved big time in Africa that they are not to be trusted. You sound a bit like a politician with dirty hands..?

      Sharkie - 2011-09-01 16:19

      Yes we can you idiot! The karoo sustains two huge idustries already! If we allow fracking those two industries will dissapear. and you can say hello to higher food costs too. If the government focussed more on creating job by investing taxes properly and attracting foreign investments - there wouldn;t be a problem.

      Lovenergy - 2011-09-01 16:40

      Dear PDS, and once we have allowed everything to be destroyed then what will we eat? Money?

      sadikari - 2011-09-04 21:44

      a report from the last week from the US indicates that the EIA has overestimated the amount of shale gas in the US by roughly 80% !! We are also relying on their estimate of the amount of shale gas in the Karoo. Mr Jan-Willemn Eggink from SHELL has said in this past week that during the exploration phase not many jobs will be created because it requires experts. Fracking is planned for very large parts of our country's and in areas where it won't be done the water-extraction and dumping of radio-active wastewater will have an effect e.g. along the Orange river. And there is the fact that the French government has banned fracking in July 2011, the European Union has issued a report stating it should be banned and 63 municipalities in the US has either banned it or placed a moratorium on it. So why expose South Africans to it when Europe does not want it? The issue is not the debatable amount of shale gas in our country but the effect on human health.

  • Sharkie - 2011-09-01 16:09

    He is LYING!!!!!! Please don;t ruin our beautiful karoo........ those farmers will loose everything, that water will become toxic waste!

  • DW - 2011-09-01 16:14

    "during the exploration phase Shell intended to bring water needed from elsewhere" - from where? Each well takes millions of litres in the exploration phase. And then they have to "store waste water generated from hydraulic fracturing (fracking) in the Karoo in containers to be appropriately disposed of later" - We are talking about millions and millions of litres. How do you get it back out of the ground once you have pumped it in? Where do you store all this water? Where do you intend to dispose of it? Stop with these vague answers. If you are not able to be up front, clear and transparent, then your reputation precedes you. The answer should be a clear and resounding NO! WE DO NOT WANT YOU OR YOUR BUSINESS MESSING WITH OUR ENVIRONMENT!

  • Lovenergy - 2011-09-01 16:36

    We are so sick and tired to see how you destroy the Earth! We don't care what you promise to do we DON'T want you! Leave the Karoo alone! You are disgusting! Empty promises! The minister that accepts the bribe and allows this will pay!

  • Deza - 2011-09-01 16:38

    Then where and when will the waste water generated from hydraulic fracturing be disposed off. If it is not disposed off the minute at has been taken out of the ground, then a few years later it will be more toxic than it was before being stored. We are busy conserving whatever little resouces and heritage sites we have, finding mechanisms of curbing global warming and they still want to damage our environment. NO. Why they don't go and do whatever they want to do in their own countries.

  • mursebul - 2011-09-01 17:12

    If the government want to listen to the voices of the people for just once, then this is one issue they should!! But being money hungry individuals and tenderpreneurs who always will have a hand in the dealings, I cannot see that our concerns will be listened to, maybe this will turn out to be a second Arms Deal saga.

  • Greegs - 2011-09-01 17:12

    Leave the Karoo alone!

  • LLLD - 2011-09-01 17:13

    When the "kaaskoppe" came to SA in the 1600's, they came to rape and plunder, now they want to do it again! Go onto Shell's website and under contact us, post them a comment so that they know that we are not going to fall for their lies. I heard on the radio they are planning to take the poisonous mine water of Gauteng FOR FREE to the Karoo because it is dry, how daft! Shell, go frack yourself!

  • George - 2011-09-01 17:36

    NO.............NO....NO.NO ABSOLYELY FARKING NO.................F@ARK OFF SHELL..............LEAVE THE KAROO ALONE......

  • zaatheist - 2011-09-01 18:27

    I really, really trust Shell's word. They have our country's and peoples' best interests at heart. http://www.news24.com/SciTech/News/Shell-under-pressure-over-pollution-20110805 "It clings to the vegetation, coats the waterways and in some parts it gushes brazenly into the swamp. This is the legacy of more than fifty years of of oil drilling in Nigeria. A U.N. report released on Thursday is placing the blame for this ecological disaster on Royal Dutch Shell and the Nigerian government. The report calls for the world's largest ever oil clean-up operation, with an initial price tag of one billion dollars." - http://www.reuters.com/video/2011/08/04/un-report-slams-shell-for-nigeria-oil-po?videoId=217897922

  • Gail - 2011-09-01 21:39

    That should be an interesting experiment. Trucking or piping in billions of litres of water, without damaging the environment and storing it where? Oh what sorry tales they do tell.

  • Spookhuis - 2011-09-02 07:51

    There is an up side.....find oil / gas = regime change :)

  • Flamewulf - 2011-09-02 09:36

    Sorry, take your fracking elsewhere, Shell. We're not interested.

  • mulder - 2011-09-02 11:49

    Shell has not caused the pollution in Africa. Nigerians have by drilling into pipelines to steal oil see Shell's web page. You do realize that you are choosing Nuclear pollution which takes thousands of years to dispel instead of power generated from franking. The waste water is easier to dispose of than nuclear waste. Just look at Japan's disaster! By the way do you know that SA government is requesting 90% of the profit? SA would be one of the riches countries in the world.Shell is negotiating with SA government for mineral wrights for land owners if this is not given Shell will likely walk away from SA. Will all your problems be solved? Yes, but at a great loss to SA's economy.

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