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Tutu: Earth could go 'poof'

2011-12-02 07:21

Cape Town - The threat of climate change could make any gains made in stopping Aids irrelevant, Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu said on Thursday.

"We have to take seriously challenges of climate change," he said at an Aids awareness event in Noordhoek, Cape Town.

"It almost makes irrelevant any advances we get to achieve in stopping Aids. We might get to defeat Aids, but discover we are getting ourselves fried or drowning."

Tutu, who recently attended the United Nations Cop17 climate talks in Durban, admitted he was wearing "two faces" by thanking oil company Chevron for sponsoring the Aids awareness event.

"Chevron we hope very much that you are aware of the very grave risk we run of destroying our home."

Tutu said if developed nations continued to recklessly emit carbon emissions the Earth would "go poof and we will go poof with it".

The potential in South Africa was "amazing" and the country ought to be one of the best in the world.

Tutu appealed to people to be frugal and not do things such as buying expensive cars.

"It lies with us whether we are going to achieve what God wants us to achieve. If all of us didn't buy expensive cars, we would have enough for everyone in this country."

Tutu said he wanted to go to his grave with a smile on his face.

"Please allow me to go to my grave with a smile on my face like we had in 1994 when we thought we could take on the world."

Comments
  • Smell - 2011-12-02 07:33

    The Earth will still be there when human's go "poof".

      spookhuis - 2011-12-02 07:36

      A hell of a lot of humans have already gone "poof"

      George - 2011-12-02 08:01

      Wish he would stop talking about poofs, im very sensitive about my sexual preferences.

      Breedlike - 2011-12-02 08:41

      It doesnt matter what they do, nature will always find ways to keep the popolation under control. What would happen if aids get cured and natural disasters stop...we will en up being 30 billion people in a couple of years which will just be anothr natural disaster.

      Steve - 2011-12-02 09:08

      South Africa went "Poof" the moment Desmond's Mates took over!

      Breinlekkasie - 2011-12-02 09:14

      Does it matter? We are so obsessed with saving every human life that we actually helped to create this problem. If only we did not take much notice of the HIV/Aids problem two decades ago most of Africa for instance would be empty today. This surely would have lifted the burden on nature, reduced the number of wars and we wouldn't be having debates about saving the Rhino and climate change. Encourage sex without protection to improve the probability of HIV/Aids infection and consequently early death. The Catholic Church is halfway there or ready we just need them to support abortion as well. Encourage people to smoke, encourage people to do drugs, encourage people to eat unhealthy food and encourage people to point dangers weapons at politicians.

  • lepotatshepho - 2011-12-02 07:35

    who wud dare make the earth go Poof! God/Global warming yada yada?

      Cameronl - 2011-12-02 08:36

      dude you are trully a chop for saying that. go back to school and learn about the over population of a species namely humans and how more and more on a daily basis we (humans) screw up this planet. I say again.... you are a chop

  • Stephen - 2011-12-02 07:48

    The longer he lives the less likely he's going to have a smile on his face when he dies. Why you Christians worried about climate change? Jesus will be back soon to rupture you all up to heaven.

      Matthew - 2011-12-02 08:03

      I am really not looking forward to being 'ruptured'. Lol lol lol

      Hennie - 2011-12-02 08:34

      I certainly hope so. Wouldn't want to be stuck on this vile rock for much longer. Then again God teaches us through adversity. So maybe he will keep us here a little longer to learn.

      Ian - 2011-12-02 08:35

      rupture huh, well the topic is aids, lol lol

  • Gcwabe-KaMavovo - 2011-12-02 07:57

    I think homosexuals might take issue with his choice of words.

  • Matthew - 2011-12-02 08:03

    No it wont go 'poof', just because you think it came 'poof' into existence. I had a friend that went 'poof' in high school. He is now an interior designer.

      Hennie - 2011-12-02 08:36

      LOL it is still going poof into existence. Or maybe the poof into oblivion started 60 million years ago, after all the sun is going to explode in another 5 billion years. Just around the corner really.

      Matthew - 2011-12-02 08:46

      What, you mean the entire universe isn't 7000 years old, and created just for us humans by god and his angels and burning bushes and talking snakes???

      Hennie - 2011-12-02 09:14

      Matthew the Bible does not declare the universe as 7000 years old. If you read it, you will find it does not in fact talk about the creation of the universe, just the planet we are living on. It also talks about the creation in the form of a metaphor. It talks about God's perception of time in the form of a metaphor. So it does not in fact propose the creation of an entire planet in 7 days. It is 7 phases. If you read science manuals on the proposed process of terraforming, you will see that Genesis follows the exact process. You know if more people read instead of making blind assumptions. And if more people seek understanding with logical thought, the world will be a better place and maybe more eyes will open to the truth. But this is not the subject at hand, so I will leave this discussion for another time. It is one of my favourite topics, as I believe that man wants to emulate God in terraforming Mars. I have always found the subject interesting.

      Matthew - 2011-12-02 09:38

      Terraforming and genetic manipulation of the human genome is a definite in the evolution of our species and planet. However, whilst we agree on that, I firmly believe that it wasn't the god of the jews, that was simply iron-age man's interpretation of the celestial visitors that came from the stars. The Annunaki modified us from the primitive ape creatures found on earth to mine gold for their interstellar purposes. But as you say, another debate for another time.

  • cupcake - 2011-12-02 08:27

    global warming doesn't exist!!!!!!! why are people still so ignorant. look at the F@*&£^g data its all B.S. wake up people its just another way that the government can make more money by implementing a climate tax. im so tired of people that are scared of global warming and talking about it, look at the research and then talk to me!!!!

      Robin - 2011-12-02 08:33

      Bravo! Tutu should stick to his Bible and stop trying to be a climate scientist.

      Hennie - 2011-12-02 08:36

      state of fear Best book ever written. So true.

  • robbie.crouch - 2011-12-02 08:27

    Stick to what you know and keep the politicians out of this Desmond. ;-)

      Jerhone - 2011-12-02 08:36

      And he doesn't know very much does he

  • Fred - 2011-12-02 08:27

    Tutu never talks like an Xian - you know - all powerful loving, vengeful deity who has a plan for everything and demand continual flattery. I think Tutu is actually a closet atheist but knows where his bread is buttered.

      Hennie - 2011-12-02 08:37

      No, I believe he firmly believes in his god. His god's name is tutu. LOL

      Fred - 2011-12-02 11:11

      @bothahe Well that is a hell of a lot more constructive than believing in the invisible magic man in the sky (who grants wishes). Tutu has made a good living out of peddling it.

      Hennie - 2011-12-02 11:43

      If riches is your goal you are right. I give you that. However riches is not everyone goal in life.

  • damonsb - 2011-12-02 08:29

    For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.Malachi 4...no poof

      Fred - 2011-12-02 11:12

      Brain addled nonsense!

      Matthew - 2011-12-02 16:18

      Jewish folklaw. Completely irrelevant for the past two milenia. Verily sayeth I.

  • Hennie - 2011-12-02 08:32

    I thought Tutu believed in God. Surely that means he must believe that only God can end the world. Doesn't the Bible say God will end the world with fire? Mmmmm.... Shows to me that Tutu lost the plot a little. I have long since believed that the little politician has abandoned his faith for politics. Maybe he wants to become president.

      Kerri- Lee Barlow - 2011-12-02 09:48

      Are u serious? That is the dummest thing I have ever heard. Dude religion and science can coexist. Just because someone has faith doesn't mean they follow blindly

      Hennie - 2011-12-02 10:18

      Tutu doesn't seem have faith any more. His best friend laughs at his faith. Maybe I'm being a little bit judgemental. Maybe Tutu is trying to show the Dalai Lama the error of his ways to convert him to Christianity. On the other hand how do you convert a guy who believes he is like a god. I have a feeling Tutu might fail in his attempt. I have a lot of faith and yes, I don't follow it blindly. Tutu on the other hand has another agenda. Over the last while he has been very vocal politically and although I really support his praying for the end of the ANC, I don't think it is appropriate for him to make statements like that.

      Fred - 2011-12-02 11:13

      As I have commented, Tutu is a closet atheist. He is way to clever to keep believing all that invisible sky fairy nonsense.

  • Jerhone - 2011-12-02 08:32

    I think his brain has gone poof,i guess your ANC wiped that 1994 smile right off your face, now you can't even take on Africa YOU SURE BACKED THE WRONG HORSE

  • Ian - 2011-12-02 08:34

    you can start by getting your brudders to start looking after the enviroment, throw your rubbish into a bin, stop noise pollution, your hooting and crackers, stop urinating and crapping in public, you start with those small examples then maybe we can talk about doing something about climate change, ya i know, im racist arnt i

  • aardvarkie - 2011-12-02 08:50

    COP17 is a cop out and TuTu your sentiments are useless drivel. Why don't you use some of those church funds to go create permaculture gardens in poor areas instead of talking rubbish on topics you clearly have no clue or authority to talk about.

  • rory.short1 - 2011-12-02 08:56

    Spot on Tutu

  • Itumeleng - 2011-12-02 09:01

    Isin't it weird listing to Tutu giving a sermon about Global Warming... i mean, its boring enough when he talks politics.

  • Breinlekkasie - 2011-12-02 09:01

    I don't see any problem with climate change. This type of thing happens in nature all the time. If their is too many animals of a certain kind in an area starvation and disease set in and often the weather changes. Hundreds die until a equilibrium between available resources and animal numbers are establish. Humans are in no way different than animals except that we greatly under utilizing our abilities. If nature takes its course millions of people will die until that critical equilibrium is reached. If we reach that critical point we should kick of a census to see how many people the planet can sustain without a repeating such a disaster. From there on it is easy. we keep book of the number of people and any babies borne that increases the world population over the critical value are eliminated. Only if people die and the number of people drops under the critical level can people have babies again. I would suggest one look at more intelligent people as breed stock. We don't want more Julius Malema's, Jacob Zuma's and George W. Bush's around, do we? Finally I guess Tutu can take up this little issue with God. Maybe God will make the problem go away.

      Hennie - 2011-12-02 09:24

      True! The only unnatural thing about climate change is if it stays the same. Climate change and extinction is a natural process. 90% of the creatures that ever existed on this planet was extinct even before humans were here. All these activists subscribe to the idiotic belief that they have to keep the planet in some sort of static state. Live with it. Life is about change, so accept it and try to survive, just like any other creature here. Humans are not the only creatures to change the planet to their own detriment. What must set us apart is our ability to control the change for our benefit not our downfall. We are failing at that at the moment, but God gave us the mental capacity to solve these issues, so instead of griping about it, we must now solve our problems for our survival. If a few rare animals survive, great! If they go extinct, then so be it. The world has been driving creatures to extinction for a long time. Lets just make sure that it won't be us this time. God will not make the problems go away. God lets us suffer the consequences of our actions. It is called education. Those that learns from mistakes will go on to learn some more.

      Fred - 2011-12-02 11:15

      Bad news bothaha and Breinless. There is no god

      Hennie - 2011-12-02 11:46

      Yes Fred. I heard you the first time. As I understand that there is a special place prepared just for people who believe like you. I admit I don't really care where you go. I might go there too, just for saying this, but I can't lie to God, so I admit to not caring about where you go.

      Breinlekkasie - 2011-12-02 14:51

      @Fred I never said there is a god!

      Hennie - 2011-12-02 15:05

      yes fred, I know. that still doesn't change the fact that you go somewhere when you die.

  • dumisani.ntshangase1 - 2011-12-02 09:01

    didn't this guy tutu say he was retiring from public involvement stuff not so long ago?

  • Breinlekkasie - 2011-12-02 09:02

    I don't see any problem with climate change. This type of thing happens in nature all the time. If their is too many animals of a certain kind in an area starvation and disease set in and often the weather changes. Hundreds die until a equilibrium between available resources and animal numbers are establish. Humans are in no way different than animals except that we greatly under utilizing our abilities. If nature takes its course millions of people will die until that critical equilibrium is reached. If we reach that critical point we should kick of a census to see how many people the planet can sustain without a repeating such a disaster. From there on it is easy. we keep book of the number of people and any babies borne that increases the world population over the critical value are eliminated. Only if people die and the number of people drops under the critical level can people have babies again. I would suggest one look at more intelligent people as breed stock. We don't want more Julius Malema's, Jacob Zuma's and George W. Bush's around, do we? Finally I guess Tutu can take up this little issue with God. Maybe God will make the problem go away.

  • Kerri- Lee Barlow - 2011-12-02 09:45

    Climate change is natural. What isn't is the speed it is happening at and the way. This sort of thing has happened before. The oceans heated due to green house gas and the currents stopped and most life died. The fear is that in order for evolution to happen it needs time. Something we aren't giving our planet at all. We will all die our species can't live forever. But out of all the human species that have been on the planet we've been here the shortest and caused more damage than before. What we are doing is not natural. Its proven that the closer a species lives with the natural cycles of the planet the longer they remain on the planet. You all saying its natural, but in the bigger picture we look like the worst and stupidest. We're killing our own species in the shortest time ever in the history of the earth. Yet still we consider ourselves superior to all.

      Hennie - 2011-12-02 10:05

      Really? With the current discoveries on how to manage oxygen, how to grow food in unnatural environments, etc. I think you are being a little bit dramatic. We are not saying it will be pretty, but lets face it humanity can survive without a lot of nature. You can artificially manage a survivable environment. Admittedly with most of humanity being dead, but the human species will still flourish long after most of the natural environment is dead. Of course most of us will be dead too, but then again that will solve the whole over population problem. Nature will have its turn then to recover. We will be hidden away in closed environments until that happens. I will grieve the loss of nature. I might sound callous, but the truth is I love nature more than man or man made things. I used to do wildlife photography, so my first choice is that most of humanity disappear with nature remaining pristine, but I am not going to get my wish, just like environmentalists won't get theirs. It is time we accept the consequences and focus our efforts and resources on surviving as a species instead of wasting time and resources on trying to fix the world. Let nature take care of that. We must just make sure we survive the transformation of our planet.

      Kerri- Lee Barlow - 2011-12-02 10:15

      I agree, you make a good point controlling ourselves first. Hadn't considered that. Plus the more we control ourselves the less effect we would have on the planet. I also agree that most of the human race needs to go.

      Hennie - 2011-12-02 10:32

      Even in nature you see mass extinctions of a species that breeds to much. Quellea's, locusts, etc. Their population explodes then most dies, until another opportunity arises. They really need to limit breeding. It is amazing that governments will tell us what we can use, consume, watch, even say, but they take a moral high ground when it comes to limiting our spread across the planet even when every living being can see that it can not continue. Ah well! I doubt whether I will survive. I'm not important enough. At least it shouldn't fall apart in my life time. I just have to make sure my children know that they have to be important enough. I would dearly love to see what the world will look like 1000 years from now.

  • OzzyIn - 2011-12-02 14:21

    Tutu should spend more time reading his Bible that dabbling in poilitics "and the things of the world". The Bible states in Ecclesiastes 1 that the earth "remains forever" and Psalms 104 that the earth is designed to last to "time indefinite, or forever". He 'should' know that God will put an end to this system of things and "will bring to ruin those ruining the earth" (Rev 11:18) before the earth goes "poof".

      Breinlekkasie - 2011-12-02 15:41

      The "earth remains forever" and "earth is designed to last to time indefinite". Are you sure about that? We know of over 400 exa-solar planets which means planets are very common. I cannot stop to wonder how many such planets were ripped to pieces by it's mother star during a super nova explosion to create objects like the crab nebula. Do you think God thought these passages through when He inspired David and Paul to write it? I mean He must have known that mankind was going to figure out at some point that these passages are not quite accurate, right?

      OzzyIn - 2011-12-02 22:40

      First off, it was Revelation was written by the Apostle John. Yes God, thought these through. That is why He said through scripture that he will bring an end to things and to those ruining the Earth before the Earth is ruined. In its current state the Eart can be sustainable for thousands of years. How are these passages not accurate? If the Great Tribulation/Armegeddon begins tomorrow, or next week or on 21 December 2012, He is not wrong? Yes?

  • hermansvn - 2011-12-02 15:11

    I wish people uneducated in this field, like Tutu, will keep their mouths shut and stop commenting on subjects they know nothing about.

      Breinlekkasie - 2011-12-02 15:44

      I have to agree with your comment. But it is a well known fact that the more incompetent a person is the less likely they are to realize it. It is a scientific fact.

  • susy.flux - 2012-01-29 21:52

    whats the kind of full in cosmos ...

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