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Cape coloured voters' minds made up

2011-05-16 10:32

Cape Town - Fruit seller Amien Cox will put his hopes in a white woman in South Africa's local polls on Wednesday, 17 years after the fall of the racist apartheid regime that denied an all-race vote.

"No other option: DA," said the coloured supporter of the Democratic Alliance over the governing ANC that led South Africa into democracy.

"I'll never vote any ANC, never. I'll never vote for a black man, never," said Cox, 72. "They don't worry for us."

Politicians have scrambled to woo coloured voters who are the majority in Cape Town, South Africa's only major city not in ANC hands.

The battle is a two-party race between President Jacob Zuma's ANC, which lost the city five years ago, and the DA led by Helen Zille, who is the first female leader of the party.

Backing the DA

The coloured group is tipped to back the DA - years after many cast their first votes in 1994 for apartheid's white minority nationalists that oppressed them but ranked them higher than blacks.

"Coloured people with brains are going to vote for an opposition," summed up "John", 50, a store sales supervisor who lives in Mitchell's Plain, a suburb created for coloureds forcibly removed during apartheid.

"They're not going to jump on the bandwagon because at the end of the day they are going to be thrown off the bandwagon."

Coloureds who have African, European, East Asian and South Indian roots had more privileges than the darker-skinned black majority in apartheid's strict hierarchy designed to keep South Africa's people apart and protect white power.

The divisions cut across separate housing, education and even language with Dutch settler-derived Afrikaans spoken instead of local African languages.

And while power has shifted, many still feel sidelined.

An angry people

Emotions exploded earlier this year over remarks by the ANC government's top spokesperson that there was a regional "over supply" of coloureds, who form less than 9% of the nearly 50 million South Africans.

"The ANC has done nothing for the coloured people," said John.

"There are a few coloured people like the diehard supporters for the ANC since the days of yore... those are the ones who will stick with them. But I don't think they can garner any fresh support from the coloured people."
The DA unseated the ANC in the Western Cape with a razor-thin margin in the 2009 general election, after taking Cape Town in a coalition in local polls three years earlier.

Courting black voters

The DA has urged desperately needed black voters to put it to the test, fighting digs of being white and elitist, while the ANC has pushed its liberation credentials, which brought the adored Nelson Mandela to power.

On the outskirts of sleek Cape Town, Nomzwake Kanyaza, 60, said she will vote ANC as "the first party that brought us everything" as she readied to cook sheep heads on a roadside fire.

Other black voters said they will break longstanding loyalty to the ANC after years of empty promises.

"When the DA won, everything changed. We got electricity and toilets. Sorry about the truth," said Khayelitsha shack dweller Zameka Belani, 30.

But for some South Africans - angered by graft, inequality, massive joblessness, crime, and poor housing - all options are equally dire.

Disappointed ANC supporter Marildiah Mukadam, 54, in Mitchell's Plain said: "I don't know who really to vote for because they're all a bunch of liars."

Comments
  • saabnut - 2011-05-16 10:41

    Telling words indeed. I have heard countless 'coloured' folk express a similar sentiment- namely that the 'black' man doesn't care about them. We see it too, and hear it from the likes of Jimmy, "Out of context" Manyi. I say to them: Cream the ANC and keep Cape Town- it is probably the only chance we will ever get to convince (eventually) the masses of blind sheep and gullible COSATU supporters.

      Plaasjapie - 2011-05-16 11:36

      "the masses of blind sheep and gullible COSATU supporters" You don't say!

      saabnut - 2011-05-16 11:52

      And senior government officials with their hands in the till...

      tryanything - 2011-05-16 14:14

      I know of several coloured people personally that are emigrating to australia see not only whities cause the ANC uses them just for votes

      HueyPNewton - 2011-05-16 15:51

      @tryanything. The ANC doesn't "use coloureds for votes", simply because they vote for the DA.

      Ricksi - 2011-05-17 11:53

      On top of that I hear from many people, that there is a quiet buzz going around the townships in the WC .....DA....DA....DA....

      ir8m8 - 2011-05-17 12:33

      i have many colleagues of non-white ethnicity, most of them are already in agreement that they will cast for a party other than ANC, however the numbers out there that do not participate in forums like these, that do not converse over vending machine coffee, who are they going to vote for, and 9/10 times they will vote out of fear. One of my colleagues who had to collect a social grant for her ageing mother, told us that the officials behind the counters are and have been intimidating people for a while already saying that "if they don't vote for ANC, they will loose their grant", We all know that this is harder done than said, but to a poor person that does not understand the bureaucracy???, they will vote with Fear.

      Larissa - 2011-05-17 12:53

      African 39 682 600 79.4% White 4 584 700 9.2% Coloured 4 424 100 8.8% Indian 1 299 900 2.6% Alone We Can Do Nothing But Together We Can Do A Lot! Just think 4,5 mln Whites, 4,4 mln coloreds and nearly 1,3 mln Indians and Asians...+ bring another 4,4 mln intelligent Black supporters to DA... Malema won't stand a chance...

      JamieO - 2011-05-17 15:54

      Excuse me, I’m coloured and I’m not voting DA.

      Kaleidoscope - 2011-05-17 19:30

      I'm also coloured and am not voting for anyone! I also know alot of coloured people not voting at all because it doesn't matter who is in power, we are always second to the racial power in charge of this country. I'll cast my vote for another coloured person, only because i think we deserve to abuse some power and enrich ourselves as previous governments have done for their own race!

      AJ - 2011-05-18 05:19

      @JamieO: You can vote for whoever you want, perhaps you are looking for representation based more on religious affiliation etc. That said and done, not voting for the party that has been acknowledged as being best in service delivery and not voting for the party that has proved itself and been acknowledged as best in handling tax payer money, does leave one wondering what exactly you view as being more important.

      Me - 2011-05-18 11:27

      @JamieO The person quoted did say: "Coloured people *with brains* are going to vote for an opposition,"

  • Lestor - 2011-05-16 10:42

    Disappointed ANC supporter Marildiah Mukadam, 54, in Mitchell's Plain said: "I don't know who really to vote for because they're all a bunch of liars." QFT Its a matter of who will break the least promises.

      Zebelon - 2011-05-17 22:00

      The poor lady has been confused by so many lies coming from the ANC, falsely accusing the DA of failure to deliver; if one tells a lie repeatedly over a period, it eventually looks like the truth. That is the ANC weapon.

  • AGENT777 - 2011-05-16 10:42

    its still frustrating to learn how divided we are after so many years, goodluck to all the racists

      RVQ - 2011-05-16 11:13

      All sides are guilty of this but what do you expect if the president of the country and the ANCYL promote it. 2010 was the year they could have changed it but they used 2011 to go back past 1994...

      Me - 2011-05-18 11:28

      "goodluck to all the racists" I think the ANC has all the luck they need no need to wish them any more.

  • Kooven - 2011-05-16 10:42

    Aaaaaaaaaah Yeah!!! DA to win it by 16%

  • Pieter - 2011-05-16 10:44

    This is exactly what I have been saying for a while now. I am mixed/coulered myself and my whole family is voting D.A. The ANC isa black party and cater to blacks only. This has been seen time and time again. In apartheid coulerds had housing and food and safety. These days nobody has anything other than crime, poverty and corruption in our Government. I can tell you right now that about 70% of coulerds are voting D.A because we know that we are more welcomed by whites than by blacks at the end of the day. Especially Afrikaans speaking coulerds and basters. The Indian population seems to share the same outlook.

      Wolraad Woltemade - 2011-05-16 11:07

      Pieter - Ek stem 100% saam met jou, behalwe dat alle politisie maar almal in my oë ewe sleg is, is dit seker belangrik om die die hoeveelheid van sleg op te meet teen mekaar! Wie is dus die slegste, en stem teen dit, eerder as vir iets goeds - Want as ons vir iets goeds wag, gaan ons nog lank wag! Enigste "drawback" is steeds, selfs al begrawe die verskillende minderhede hul "historiese baggage" - Selfs al stem alle Wittes, Bruin, Indiërs, Asiërs etc. etc teen die ANC is ons by vêr steeds Nasionaal in die minderheid - Dit sal nooit verander, en ek is jammer om te sê, ek dink nie die meerderheid swartes in ingesteld op 'n nie-rassige politieke bestel nie, dit gaan vir hulle oor mag vir historiese inheemse Afrikane... Enigste probleem is dat hul nie histories die eintlike inwoners van SA, lank voor hul koms, die San en Khoi mense as Afrikane ken nie!!! Want hulle ken nie hul geskiedenis nie... Hul ken nie die Griekwas se geskiedenis in SA nie - Hulle geskiedenis strek net tot 20 jaar terug, verder as dit bestaan nie vir hulle nie... Dis ongelukkig die feite... Hoop maar ons kan genoeg oposisie steun kry om ten minste dinge stadig te kan verbeter, of ten minste die agteruitgang te kan belemmer.

      Pieter - 2011-05-16 11:21

      Ja Wolraad dit is net soos jy sê. Ek vind dit soms verbaasend hoe die swart meerderheid praat asof die land in sy geheel aan hulle behoort, en nog altyd aan hulle behoort het. En soos ons weet is dit nie die feit nie. Die wit en Kleerling/Baster/San populasie was vir 'n lang tyd die enigste inwoners in die Weste van S.A. Daar was geen swart populasie in meer as die helfde van Suid Afrika nie tot hulle begin afkom het van die Noorde en wat ons vandag ken as KZN. Ek weet ook dat die land nou in die bewind van die swart meerderheid sal bly ongeag die aantal nie swart stemmers. Ek sal sê dit is as gevolg van die oningeligte meerderheid swart mense wat hul stemme ook van die D.A weerhou danksy vrees dat Aprtheid weer sal kop uitsteek. Hulle moet verstaan dat Apartheid soos dit was nie sal terugkom nie omdat mense-regte organisasies soos die VN 'n stop aan dit sal sit. Hoe meer mense bewus is van die ware feite en stand van sake hoe beter, maar soos jy sê, hulle is onkundig selfs as dit kom by hul eie geskiedenis. Dinge sal nie verander nie, net vir die slegter. Dit is nou maar net die dinge wat die eenvoudigste moet wees wat altyd die swaarste is.

      Wolraad Woltemade - 2011-05-16 11:25

      Net so!

      otiose - 2011-05-16 11:29

      kom ons hou dit engels ouens. Viva DA!

      Pieter - 2011-05-16 11:45

      I only have to point to one thing to prove that the D.A is the lesser of the two evils. Look at Pretoria, now look at Capetown. Look at Johannesburg, now look at Cape Town. See the difference? Before people come her with that "Cape Town is only good for whites" bullcrap I will tell you that CT grants MANY opportunities for ALL races. I believe that CT has one of the lowest unemployment rates cross S.A if not the lowest. International people call it the best city on the entire African continent. The proof is in the pudding. The DA run area is the best area. What more proof does anyone need? Now think for a moment if the entire Country could prosper like Capetown? Is that not an ideal that every African Shares?

      saabnut - 2011-05-16 11:56

      @ motsokwane: I see you've at least learnt enough Afrikaans to eneble you to teach woodwork to Julius and his buddies.

      Nicolai - 2011-05-16 12:11

      I agree to some extend. I do not believe at all the ANC is a black party. I believe the ANC is a party that serves the ANC leaders. ANC does not care about Blacks, coloureds, indians or whites. They care about themselves...Those in power and their families are all who benefit consistently from the ANC being in power. Viva DA! Tata DA! DA is the future...for all In South Africa! We all stand united!! For prosperity!! For Unity!! For Humanity!! Viva!!!

      Stan - 2011-05-16 12:26

      I can only agree fully with your sentiment,even the crime in the country is because of some and not all has adopted a sense of ownership,that everthing,owned by us belongs to them

      vtowntekkie - 2011-05-16 12:45

      Spot-on!

      Pieter - 2011-05-16 12:54

      Koos, how about you learn to construct a proper sentence before adressing me again. I can see your rage over the laptop screen, calm down. I don't care for your opinion and you just insulted and entire demographic. You have two options. Either you calm down and adress me properly like an adult, or you go on with your emotional rampage and I laugh at you and ignore everything you say as a joke. Which will it be?

      Sammy - 2011-05-16 15:29

      I didn't understand ONE word that Koos wrote...

      Stateman - 2011-05-16 15:37

      PLEASE TELL ME WHAT IS A COLOURED"?

      HueyPNewton - 2011-05-16 15:49

      @Pieter. Did Cape Town only become the best African City after the DA took over??

      Tito - 2011-05-16 16:42

      At Stateman. Would you please tell me what is a white man?

      ANC-FTL - 2011-05-16 16:48

      Stateman - A "COLOURED" is - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloured

      azckr - 2011-05-17 06:24

      @ Pieter you ***ing idiot. “We are more welcomed by whites”. You think that is why we vote for the DA. We were part of the struggle and we are not reaping any benefit we are just sidelined the same as in the previous regime. The thing about coloureds is that we can move on and we welcome any other race as friends. We are easy people to live with and we know what’s the true meaning of forgive and forget then move on.So go re-think your idiotic statement.

      Daemos1 - 2011-05-17 11:42

      Privatise government, we'll stop all the nonsense. If Mcdonalsds ran Gauteng we'd be a lot happier

      I Love SA - 2011-05-17 14:46

      HueyPNewton You are the MAN. Well said.

      azckr - 2011-05-18 05:11

      @I love SA. Shame man I feel sorry for you. After a lot of years you finally found out what it means to earn and work something. I guess you are an Afrikaner who grew up in a station house and your parents telling you that coloured and black people are bad. Your handouts has stopped when the ANC took over so don’t be pissed off with the world that you left school in grade 3 and don’t have a proper education and thought that you could just walk into a job because of your skin colour. Go to youtube about poor whites you will understand then.

  • jeremy - 2011-05-16 10:45

    Let's hope the opinions of those "coloured" voters in the W Cape, who've had the benefit of DA regional rule, are shared by more and more voters in other provinces. It's a gradual process, but if the DA does continue to pick up more municipalities and govern well in the ones it wins, it will inevitably continue growing to the point where it will eventually unseat the ANC. The best way to ensure a healthy democracy and a well-governed country is to have two parties of approximately equal size who can each be voted in or out depending on their performance.

      Cliff - 2011-05-16 10:51

      Well said jeremy

      Thembisile - 2011-05-16 11:34

      I agree with you, it is not healthy for one party to have majority rule like the ANC does because they end up not serving the people but lining up their pockets. May all go well for the DA.

      Flinger - 2011-05-16 12:41

      I really hope the DA can take a city like Durban for example - the indian vote and the former IPF supporters could swing it - then by the time the next gen elections are upon us, there will be another shining example on how to run a city other than Cape Town. That could be the ANC's final nail in the coffin in 4 years time!

      Flinger - 2011-05-16 12:41

      Woops, IFP* Sorry

      Stan - 2011-05-16 13:00

      I agree that the country should follow others countries with two & three major parties,the problem especially in the Western Cape is the mushrooming of smaller parties and Independent is causing confusion amongst the voters,the voters must also be aware the most of the dependents could not deliver while they were members of a party that's why they were left off the list,so how will be able deliver as an independent,how will the smaller parties,unless the go in coalitions with another party

      Johncarlos Biza - 2011-05-16 17:29

      Not really. If they share equal power(USA for eg), they tend to end up being more alike than different. Also, another side effect that may be unwanted is political violence(Ivory Coast recently). The only thing I feel can lead to political health in this country is political education, which comes with education in general. The rest will follow. Hopefully the next generation will be like the UK where parties win with just 10% separating them from their 3 main rivals

      Daemos1 - 2011-05-17 11:45

      You're all sheep, the ultimate goal should be governance without politics, civil servants without influence. We should mince all the politicians up and feed them to the pigs who are consstipated. I'll start.

  • MK007 - 2011-05-16 10:47

    Viva DA

  • ? - 2011-05-16 10:49

    "Coloureds who have African, European, East Asian and South Indian roots " What utter lies. Coloured is just an umbrella term for mixed race people.I doubt that coloured people living in de Doorns or Lainsburg have Indian and Asian roots.They are Khoisan/European

      DW - 2011-05-16 10:59

      Khoisan is African. The statement said that Coloured have "African, European, East Asian and South Indian roots" - not all Coloured have all of the variants, but the statement is not a lie. Khoisan (African) and European were both mentioned.

      Wolraad Woltemade - 2011-05-16 11:11

      ...and the ANC does not regard the Khoisan as such!

      ? - 2011-05-16 11:11

      I never said they never had African blood,but this article generalises by saying that they have all of those roots which is false. Generalising is a bad thing.Should one then also say that all Afrikaners are racists? Or that all english speaking white south africans are liberals?

      Wolraad Woltemade - 2011-05-16 11:13

      Ok - i misunderstood you.

      Damask - 2011-05-16 11:16

      I have Spanish, German, Dutch, British, St. Helenian and Indian roots... and that's just going back to my great grandparents, I don't know what happened before then. In each instance, the person married a coloured South African, so I'm about 50% coloured, 50% everything else. Please go educate yourself

      ? - 2011-05-16 11:21

      @damask. How can you be 50% coloured? There isnt such an ethnic group called Coloured.Im a Khoisan person,and someone that is Khoisan/European is still classified by myself as being Khoisan. The Maoris,aborigines and native americans are also racially mixed,yet they are still referred to as maoris,aborigines and native americans."Coloured" is a colonial name given to people to delete any identity they had with their ancestral land here. Cape Malay people on the other hand are also classified as coloured but are of malaysian,indian and indonesian stock and are muslim.

      ? - 2011-05-16 11:22

      @Wolraad, How can all south africans have indian roots? What about jews who came from eastern europe? or portuguese people? Or Griqua people? I respectfully disagree with your comment

      Wolraad Woltemade - 2011-05-16 11:32

      Racial classification was a new term - And she is correct in saying that way back the term "mesties" and / or "halfslacht" was the only distinction - As time went on the localle of various groups simply formed, based on which historical line outweight the other - Boer leaders like Paul Kruger, Andries Hendrik Potgieter and Andries Pretorius shared a Great-Great-Great Grandmother named Clara Herbst, who had a German father and a Halfslacht mother, I did recearch for myself! :) The British in the Eastern Cape and Natal also married into native families - Hench, it's more a term of historical dominant line than a "pure" lineage! LOL - Even the so-called blacks have non-Afrrican lines from China and India in their ancestry...

      ? - 2011-05-16 11:39

      @Wolraad, Like i said,generalisation is a bad thing.I also understand that Paul Kruger had khoisan ancestory,fair enough,but that doesnt mean that every afrikaner person has khoisan or non-white ancestory.Same about blacks as well.Walter Sisulu had a white father,but that doesnt mean other blacks are mixed as well. Nevertheless,i find this generalisation about coloured people rather worrying because they cant be painted with the same brush. Thanks for the chat anyway :)

      Lang Henning - 2011-05-16 12:44

      Khoisan is a term fabricated by anthropologists to denote the indigenous people of South Africa. Khoi should be spelled Qua or, phonetically, Kwa - the current pronunciation is wrong, as khoi was a French spelling of the word, as in moi. French was an internationally used language in the sciences. San are Bushmen, the word San is derogatory and means stock thief and vagabond - terms which the Qua used to insult them. Forgive this off-topic, but I thought I'd mention it. The Qua and the Bushmen were the original inhabitants of the sub-continent and have been all but wiped out by incoming settlers, black and white.

      Flinger - 2011-05-16 12:57

      Can the use of the word be dropped or is it part of SA's lingo now? If coloured ppl know what their roots are, they can title themselves as such right? Koisan, 1 Milk & 1 Coffee, 2 coffees & 1 milk, South Indian & a coffee? etc.

      SomeLogic - 2011-05-16 13:39

      "I'm not a coloured." That is our problem. That is why we can not stand together. That is why we have to have our municipalities and the Western & Northern Cape governed by either a black or white person. Whilst we are the majority there. And I am not being racist. First the whites ruled us and it got us nowhere. Now the blacks rule us and we are still nowhere. That is in the provinces that belonged to our ancestors (in whatever manner). It is time that we admit who we are. We are coloureds by the nature of our ethnic composition. Whites like to say they are proud white people. Blacks call themselves proud black people. And we - "I'm not a coloured." Wake up and smell the coffee my fellow coloureds. It is time that we unite behind one party of coloured leadership. That is the only way in which we will have our needs addressed. That is not racist. It is looking after your own. That is what whites did, what blacks do and what we should be doing. PROUD COLOURED>

      Mgayi - 2011-05-16 14:36

      @Hello there That's a classic comment right there , we need more of those

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-05-16 20:58

      Os is mos almal kaled!

      SomeLogic - 2011-05-17 09:13

      @HueyPNewton - either you are not a Coloured or never should have been one. I don't care for politically correct BS! That renders your comment irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that we are Coloureds. Always have been and always will be. There IS such a thing as all race groups living together in harmony. There IS NOT such a thing as people looking at each other without seeing: "he is white", "he is black" or "he is coloured". That is the cold reality. And just as proud as you are to be a proud whatever you are, so am I proud to be a Coloured. Please allow me my constitutional right to be associated with proud Coloureds, who are not affraid to admit that they are Coloureds. Allow me my opinion. Allow me to have balls. Do not challenge what I feel in my heart. It is MY feeling, not yours to try and influence. So much was taken away from Coloureds, even to an extent selfrespect and the sense of belonging. That and my opinion will NO ONE take away from me... I like all South Africans, so please allow me to be who I want to be without politically correct Bull SHT and I will do the same for you. PROUD COLOURED>

      HueyPNewton - 2011-05-17 10:22

      @SomeLogic. Firstly, i never claimed to be a coloured. Secondly, you have just proved the point that coloureds have an identity crisis and are desperate to belong somewhere. How can you claim that someone who's half black and half white is the same race as someone who's half jew half indian?? Lastly, if you were to move overseas what will you become then?? Black? White? Asian?

      SomeLogic - 2011-05-17 11:12

      @HueyPNewton - I did not say you claimed to be anything - by implication I said you are not. And we don't have an identity crisis - at least I and those likeminded don't. You read between the lines, not what is written there, but what you want to see. Unfortunately. And I don't care what you or people overseas call me. I am a Coloured and so is everyone who think like I do. Why don't you spend your time with stuff you understand and have a passion for. And leave me be. Leave us be. Because you talk with how you feel towards Colourds. No your feelings, or you for that matter don't concern me and or is not importantant to me. What you say about Coloureds is. Leave us be. Mind your own business. If you feel "there is no such thing as a Coloured" - fine. Just allow me some space to feel otherwise. And find something more useful to do with your time than being concerned with matters that don't affect and where you can make no impact. Go out there and be productive!!

  • ebdg3000 - 2011-05-16 10:50

    "Coloureds ... had more privileges than the darker-skinned black majority in apartheid's strict hierarchy designed to keep South Africa's people apart and protect white power." Whoever wrote this crap is really seeking to create mischief. Apartheid was apartheid - there were no better or worse privileges under this regime. A coloured person out of his house was just as bad as a black person being forced into a township. It's ironic that the Nationalist Party joined the ANC. Like the old saying, they're "as thick as thieves."

      g t - 2011-05-16 11:11

      oops ... sorry ... I ticked a thumbs down by mistake!!

      cerveza - 2011-05-16 11:23

      @ebdg - There was different levels of discrimination between different races, it wasn't as simple "black and white" as you see it, both coloureds and Indians enjoyed less discrimination And what is the true irony is that during the early years of the NP, they promised coloured people that they will be seen equal to whites if they vote for them

      HueyPNewton - 2011-05-16 11:38

      "there were no better or worse privileges under this regime". There seems to be this tendency amongst non-black posters to rewrite history and dismiss the hardships of black people under apartheid. please explain what you mean by the quoted statement above.

      Tito - 2011-05-16 14:57

      Like Steve Biko said, you can't be half pregnant.

      Maxwell - 2011-05-17 13:08

      there were differences, even in jail. Coloureds were given long pants, while blacks were given short to wear.

  • Mxo32 - 2011-05-16 10:52

    Why is it that they are black when it suits them? One day they define themselves as blacks the next they are not....identity is important maybe thats where they should start if they want to play a bigger part in SA politics

      DW - 2011-05-16 11:25

      The constitution says that they are "previously disadvantaged" which puts them in a certain category. Other than that, I cannot think how the colour makes any difference - except when it comes to the ANC. They are the ones who stated that there is "a regional "over supply" of coloureds", thus alienating them and causing a racial divide. In terms of the constitution we are all equal, so why the question? Why is this "identity" so important?

      DeonL - 2011-05-16 11:29

      Kolobe, I am not sure the coloureds are the poorest in the country, percentage wise per group more coloureds are probably working than blacks (unemployment is worst under blacks)?

      HueyPNewton - 2011-05-16 11:40

      They just love being the white man's pets. It makes them feel important when whites tell them "you can play with us as long as you know your place. at least you are not as bad as the blacks"

      FranklySpeak - 2011-05-16 11:50

      "i have never seen such species wanting to be oppressed" kolobe, since when are the "coloureds" a different species from the rest of the human race?

      Paul - 2011-05-16 11:54

      Kolobe.. what do you mean by "such species"? I will give you the benefit of the doubt that your English is not great, otherwise that is the most racist, condescending, ignorant comment.

      KnysnaSha - 2011-05-16 11:58

      @hueyPNewton, wake up, we are not in the old days

      edward.abrahams - 2011-05-16 12:10

      Kolobe - it is sad that the ANC has managed to demote human beings to mere "species". Congrats 2 their achievement. They r RACIST thru & thru! And u r RACIST thru & thru, just like them. We might not have the money(which is mostly STOLEN or DISHONESTLY gained) like the ANC-business connections, but we ARE INTELLIGENT ENOUGH 2 not BLINDLY follow these crooks like u & thousands of other fools in this DELAPIDATED country they MESSED UP! Your ARROGANCE is absolutely dispicable but sad to notice but will duely be rewarded - they came Cape Town and nearly RUINED our beautiful city & home. The ANC is NOT welcome in the Western Cape. We don't want them here, neither racists like u! Coloured people r peace-loving, contented with life. And ... all because of the ANC, race has now, sadly, become a focal point again. People are getting tired of your arrogance and if I were u, I will mind the utter disrespect you show towards other South Africans. U will only receive defensive remarks for your insensitive and destructive pride!

      vusi22 - 2011-05-16 12:11

      yes i agree with you.Otherwise they will be a confuse race

      Together - 2011-05-16 12:28

      Using their vote to get a better option and a future for themselves IS playing a bigger part in SA politics. In fact, it's the start of playing a part in politics. Simply supporting a party no matter how badly it does is missing the entire point of democracy.

      kolobe - 2011-05-16 12:53

      edward.abrahams does it make sense to you that Coloureds make the majority of western cape yet they dont politically run it? if you not happy with anc why not come up with your own party instead of acting like da slaves?

      HueyPNewton - 2011-05-16 13:04

      @Together. "Using their vote to get a better option and a future for themselves ". Thats not what the article says. The article says they are voting for the DA because they "don't want to vote for a black man". Now you want to tell us that they are better than people you accuse of 'simply voting for a party regardless of performance"

      Pieter - 2011-05-16 13:24

      You say they vote for a party regardless of performance? Then why is Cape Town said to be the best City on the entire African Continent by both people locally and internationally? Hmmmm? Yeah, because it is DA run. If you want to talk about performance then you had better look at what the DA is doing, and how the areas run by them look, and then look at what the ANC is doing and how areas run by them look. I wish the whole of S.A could be like Capetown. Beautiful, clean, prosporous. I can promise you that if the ANC does somehow win CTN it will degenerate into another Jozi. Simple facts. Kaap, die mooiste Kaap.

      edward.abrahams - 2011-05-16 13:50

      Kolobi - Thank you 4 acknowledging my point. Just because we r coloured and in the majority doesn't mean we must govern! THAT is IDIOTIC in itself. We are UNSELFISH ENOUGH to realise that there r people fit for government. You think that because u r the majority you must govern ... well ... the 'black' ANC had 17 LOOOOOOOOOOOONG years to prove that they can govern & the MESSED IT UP! We as 'coloureds' will allow 'white' people 2 govern and SERVE because they KNOW how 2. FACTUALLY, the ANC doesn't know how. The proof is in the pudding. NO BODY is a slave to the DA! YOU, Kolobi, is a SLAVE to your own demented mentality. You r a RACIST and your point CANNOT b taken as constructive but DESTRUCTIVE! You are a slave to the Communist, Revolutionist ANC mentality who cares for no one but their cadres. Right now we are ALL slaves to the oppressive ANC, who has let crime and 'UN-service delivery' rampant throughout our beautiful South Africa. Everything that works the ANC wants to touch and break! Well, WE ARE SICK OF IT! You and the likes of Koos, will one day reap your reward for your arrogance. We as Capetonians, know that far 2 well. So enjoy your RACIST splurge while you can.

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-05-16 13:51

      I think Koos misspelled his name and it should start with a D

      kolobe - 2011-05-16 14:02

      edward.abrahams never met anybody with such an inferiority complex.you are coloured and think the coloured majority cannot govern because " there r people fit for government"?whites? lol...you have a looong way to go

      edward.abrahams - 2011-05-16 14:30

      kolobe - its not an inferiority complex, it is simply a teachable spirit - of course we can govern! Afterall, we are family of the whites and you are NOT. Our parents and grandparents are white Europeans, and we even look like them. We are a beautiful and sensable people! Looks like you can't handle that. ...lol... Was expecting a comment like that. On a more serious note... Yes, I said some controversial things and even some other coloureds might disagree with me but we are a loveable people. The ANC has brought DIVISION into our country just like the apartheid regime. Right now, we have a party who looks after the needs of EVERY South African citizen, INCLUDING you! It makes more sense to KEEP that party serving over us as they have a track record that the ANC CANNOT match to date! So, in simple terms, that is what I was trying to say. We don't have a "looooong" way to go for anything, we are MUCH more sensable than that. Things need to change for the better NOW not tomorrow, when we and our children can't enjoy it. THAT RUBBISH the ANC is feeding you gullable fools and you've been falling for it for 17years. Like I said, your blatant arrogance will one day(SOON) reap its sad reward...

      BiTe__Me - 2011-05-16 14:35

      oh FFS Kolobe the DA is not a white party. Koos...Cape Coloureds rock, screw you.

      Tito - 2011-05-16 16:37

      Maybe because when the ANC wants votes or when they were part of the struggle they were blacks, but in the new SA and when they want tenders and jobs that they are Coloured.

      ANC-FTL - 2011-05-16 16:57

      Go Edward you tell it like it is! Thumbs Up!

      Che - 2011-05-16 19:33

      @ edward.abrahams, u seriously demented. i wouldn't even bother to take u on point by point 'cause i can't do intellectual battle with a man who's completely unarmed. in sincerely hope it's a minority of so-called coloured who share ur sentiments. wake up and smell the coffee, the real enemy is comes wearing blue.

      Che - 2011-05-16 19:35

      and oh, by the way, there's nothing controversial u said, just plain stupid

      edward.abrahams - 2011-05-16 22:17

      Che - then you carry the yellow virus bro. Your low ANC brought this racist issue to life so DEAL with it! Don't think you are so intelligent, I'm not fazed by your rataric! I meantioned facts about your ANC. The demented IDIOT is really you moron if u can call the enemy blue - that makes YOU the enemy. ANC fool!

      HueyPNewton - 2011-05-17 08:09

      @Tito. The coloureds were never considered black and neither have they considered themselves black. They played a very small insignificant role in the struggle since they had all the privileges that the black people didn't. So, you cant expect them to now benefit equally to us. Anyway, most coloureds that I know consider themselves "Afrikaners", LOL. That explains why they always voted for the National Party and now the DA.

      craig - 2011-05-17 10:54

      coloured people are awesome! the product of selective breeding leaving us with the best genes, the european and asian wit and the african... well ill leave the other one to your imagination :D

      Uthando - 2011-05-17 12:04

      @ Che Dear, please re-read your first comment to @edward.abrahams...I'll wait.......Done? Ok. Now, what was it you said about 'intellectual battle'?

      Che - 2011-05-17 12:49

      @ uthando, done! and u point is? reposting for u, pls read slowly. "@ edward.abrahams, u seriously demented. i wouldn't even bother to take u on point by point 'cause i can't do intellectual battle with a man who's completely unarmed. i sincerely hope it's a minority of the so-called coloureds who share ur sentiments. wake up and smell the coffee, the real enemy comes wearing blue."

      Che - 2011-05-17 12:59

      @ HueyPNewton Let's be careful there with talk like that whose merits i'd rather not debate. We have a duty to conscientise and liberate the Cape coloured, in particular, from the clutches of the enemy and from their illusions of superiority over blacks that Helen Zille's forebears have seemingly so successly ingrained in them.

      Uthando - 2011-05-17 13:27

      @ Che Oh, here we go! The edited version of your intellectual statement. Congrats on getting it right this time. Wait! Dont celebrate just yet! Your 'intellectual battle' continues with the unarmed ANC. Good luck with that! *wink*

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-05-17 17:15

      @Che, Doos and Kolobe. What inferiority complex are you on about. From our perspective the struggle is over. Our only struggle today is the one for economic freedom. Will never achieve that with the ANC corruption. You won't ask a bricklayer to operate on you when you need to have surgery done. Why give blind loyalty to a struggle party when they have shown they are not suited to the task of government? They have done their job but their time is over.

  • Spoofed - 2011-05-16 10:55

    ''On the outskirts of sleek Cape Town, Nomzwake Kanyaza, 60, said she will vote ANC as "the first party that brought us everything" as she readied to cook sheep heads on a roadside fire.'' yea keep voting for ANC and you will keep cooking sheep heads on the side of the road... instead of being given an opportunity to actually work for a living and have a proper house where your kids can grow up and be more than what they are set out to be right now... tsk

      Matt - 2011-05-16 11:02

      If she voted DA, she could possibly have lamb or mutton instead of sheep's head... I mean, yuck!

      Blaq - 2011-05-16 11:55

      well if it works for them thats gud sheep head or no sheep had pantsi ngo madam/her maids. For your information kids in the township to get education and suceed despite the sheep heads story. we dont need DA (DARKIES ASSIDE)o moron 2 suceed. Viva ANC.

      Parko - 2011-05-16 13:53

      There's no cure for stupidity

      Realist - 2011-05-16 15:18

      Blaq: if it were not for the DA she would not be cooking sheep head, she would be making turd pies! Your grammar definately shows your superior township education......haaaaa haaaaaaa haaaaaaaa! Anway, wow, what a comment from one is totally blind to the truth, however you are the ones who will suffer under your ANC rule, because unlike many educated South Africans who have the means and the resources, you will have to live with the choices you make, whilst we have a way out of if we so choose. Our children have secure futures, they have excellent private education and a way out, you and your kind will rot in this hellhole with your children once the geese that lay the golden egg flies!!

  • Matt - 2011-05-16 11:00

    Yeah, the ANC want to win WC *so much* and then announce there are too many coloureds in the WC. Great way to win guys... (besides showing the ANC is becoming a new NP) ANYTHING BUT ANC...

      Stan - 2011-05-16 13:18

      Apart from an oversupply of coloureds in the western cape we dont even fall under the anc's policy of disadvantaged individuals,because we could vote before 1994,although so many of us did not vote,be that are not considered when we apply for employment or tender for Government business

  • Ryan77 - 2011-05-16 11:00

    DA is All races. ANC is for the blacks only. But not all the blacks, only for there friends and family. They don't care about there own black supporters, only when it election time !!!

      Johncarlos Biza - 2011-05-16 18:11

      Excellent comment. It is offensive and patronizing to ordinary blacks to claim the ANC is for them :P

  • KomboKitten - 2011-05-16 11:01

    in the end skin colour means nothing and the anc are the blindest to that truth. NOBODY needs the baggage of racism. go DA!

  • s.vnolo - 2011-05-16 11:01

    "I'll never vote any ANC, never. I'll never vote for a black man, never," said Cox, 72. "They don't worry for us." This is the only thing that concerns me about this DA Press Release

      erno.v.dyk - 2011-05-16 11:27

      If was quote, unquote s.vnolo. It was the direct words of the person who said it, not DA propaganda. You will notice they have quoted more than one person too!

      INFINIT - 2011-05-16 11:39

      LOL...." i'll never vote for a black man" spoeken like a true white man...not! really now

      Ryan77 - 2011-05-16 11:50

      I am a white man, and I must tell you that I will vote for a black, white, coloured.. any colour. But he or she must care about SA and not there pockets !! So colour should not be the issue here.

      vusi22 - 2011-05-16 12:13

      its true its a DA press release.Same like E TV. Do you remember swart gevaar?

  • kolobe - 2011-05-16 11:02

    hehe da24 campaigning for the da, we have noticed the media is our main opposition. funny all those interviewed will not vote for the anc even though anc has vast support. "I'll never vote for a black man, never" clearly an oppressed mind,is he white? "coloured group is tipped to back the DA - years after many cast their first votes in 1994 for apartheid's white minority nationalists that oppressed them but ranked them higher than blacks" m@rons doesnt doesnt even come close to explaining this

      Mxo32 - 2011-05-16 11:11

      Need I say more?

      RVQ - 2011-05-16 11:24

      That's what the president of the country and ANCYL have made this country. As leaders of a nation they should have been working to unite all colours and cultures yet they spark division as the ANC needs an enemy to keep it's followers in check. If you look carefully there is no war except the one the ANC is creating, it leaves non-blacks no choice but to run, so NOT morons but people scared because when they walk with 'whites' they are accepted but when they walk in townships they walk in fear...

      Hardtail - 2011-05-16 11:26

      funny, kolobe, that you and the new NP (ANC), are the ones doing the polarising...ancestors ghost's, wit-gevaar, apartheid is coming back, too many coloured's, did know/did not know about 1600 open toilets, treat whites as criminals, sjoe...you even have a fat, bald black guy with glasses, all he has to do now, is wag his finger, and he will look like PW Botha..but then, the old NP did join you, and is PART of the NP (Sorry ANc)...

      Almaki - 2011-05-16 11:31

      As opposed to your "I will never vote for a white man, never" mentality?

      Rover_ZA - 2011-05-16 11:32

      Those comments (the ones you thought were made by an oppressed white male) were attributed to an elderly coloured female. If that doesn't wake you up to reality, maybe you should read this quote again: "When the DA won, everything changed. We got electricity and toilets. Sorry about the truth," said Khayelitsha shack dweller Zameka Belani, 30. All this man's done is state the facts he observed. It paints an interesting picture, don't you think?

      rog - 2011-05-16 11:34

      i agree fully bro!!!swipe your mouse slightly over Hellen Zille .loll.PPL should look at the bigger picture!!!!All is not what it seems.Holding onto power ,or money.

      FranklySpeak - 2011-05-16 11:56

      "On the outskirts of sleek Cape Town, Nomzwake Kanyaza, 60, said she will vote ANC as "the first party that brought us everything" as she readied to cook sheep heads on a roadside fire." This alone shows you only read and see what you want to kolobe as this was taken directly from the article.

      nic - 2011-05-16 12:26

      @Blaq...look how sad and racist you are...I mean firstly look at your name, what a joke that you have to announce your race. Its your type that causes as much divide as the apartheid f*****z. Im not saying any one party will cater for all but good luck with keeping up you votes for the ANC. Empty promises and they dont give a crap about their own race, only about making themselves and friends richer. If you look at the rest of Africa you will see that this is the same all over. THe open toilet saga defines ANC to a T. Theyre always looking to blame whites instead theyre guilty of worse. I wish for a black dominated party that caters for all blacks and whites and coloureds...I will vote for this party. ANC is not the answer though... they dont care about you...but I guess you think youre going to heaven so keep voting and good luck because you will just end up as another stat in SA...probably taken out by some criminal which is there because the ANC doesnt care to focus on whats important in SA..

      Together - 2011-05-16 12:31

      perhaps he's been listening to all the statements issued by the ANC and ANCYL over the last year - they've made their priorities clear. And their actions have spoken even louder than their words. As for the colour question, if this man votes for the DA, he will be voting for a multic-coloured party. Which is what freedom was supposed to bring SA. Thank goodness someone is keeping the dream alive.

      bailey.bubblesqueak - 2011-05-16 14:23

      Kolobe if you continue to undermine the white man as you so enjoy doing, then my suggestion is to get off this computer (provided to you by the white man) that seem to love so much (judging by your idiotic comments), and bugger off back to your mudhut and do what "your people" do best....

      Buzzbar - 2011-05-16 15:15

      Better get your tree ready Blaq, You'll be living under it once all the white's "voetsek" as you put it.

      ocon777 - 2011-05-16 16:10

      He realized that the racists NATs joined the ANC, so he wont be voting for that bunch of thieves and racists. If only the rest of the ANC people realized that the Wit gevaar they hate so much is actually right in their midst and all the NATs did is train our current ANC how to be even more racist...... MWUHUHUHHAHAHA

      veja24seven - 2011-05-16 17:29

      "When the DA won, everything changed. We got electricity and toilets. Sorry about the truth," said Khayelitsha shack dweller Zameka Belani, 30. All this man's done is state the facts *Lies*; Anyway, people DA has failed in WC. ANC have fail the country, but thanks to it I studied my Varsity Majors from a very poor background, today Im working a good job and doing business for myself, all because of ANC that fought for the ungrateful idiots like most. Amandla, away with Corrupt leader away. Forward with Spirit on Nelson Mandela, Cris Hhani, Steve Bhiko forward. Amandla

      Rover_ZA - 2011-05-17 09:47

      So because he saw something different to what you see and is brave enough to say what he feels, he is lying? How do you know so much about this individual's situation? Or had you decided he was lying the minute you saw his political affiliation was different to yours? "Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it."

  • bazjanx008 - 2011-05-16 11:02

    I say, give us the Western Cape, where we can work to a mixed society where color is not the factor. Leave the Rest Of South Africa for the Racist Parties who look to force the (New Reversed Apartied) onto the lesser minority. Let people govern that are qualified to govern and not a friend of a friend with standard 2. Let the right person be placed in the right positions despite color... They work to divide us well we try work to become one. Let the people be heard! Vote for change...

      Zuna - 2011-05-16 14:51

      @ Koos, why dont you go f**k yourself you f*king self centred pig.I am a coloured and the reason why most of u cannot stand us is because you would like to be like us,look like us,or be us the most beautiful race in S.A Why dont u leave the country yourself we can do without your big mouths and want everything for free. We are here to stay wether you like it or not.

  • MadeInAS - 2011-05-16 11:02

    Ya well coloured only make a certain percentage in the whole population,and like the article has said we the ANC havent been doing well in the coloured community so why is this such a big boooha about?

      Paul - 2011-05-16 11:59

      Because people are not stupid for ever. They are starting to see that the opposition can actually govern(note GOVERN, not RULE) better than the ANC, and account for the funds they receive, and use it better. That's is why your leaders are starting to have brown spots on their Armani pants, they can see the winds of change coming, even if you can't.

  • mythan01 - 2011-05-16 11:03

    I just love how the writer of this article insinuates that a vote for a white person is the same as a vote for apartheid. BLURG!

  • Seinfeld - 2011-05-16 11:04

    "On the outskirts of sleek Cape Town, Nomzwake Kanyaza, 60, said she will vote ANC as "the first party that brought us everything" as she readied to cook sheep heads on a roadside fire." Thats the quote of the week and sums it all up rather nicely to those sheeple out there that wonders why we say thay are following the anc blindly into the dark........ What a pearler that woman must be if everything to her is a sheep head on the side of the road!!

  • yebocan - 2011-05-16 11:05

    At the end of the day, does not matter if you DA or ANC to me , you get my vote, when you perform, when you deliver, and you work for the people.

      Kdub - 2011-05-16 11:38

      but in order for the DA (if there is going to be a change) to perform they first have to be voted in! Doesn't help not voting and then ignorantly saying "I'll vote when you perform"

      Realist - 2011-05-16 15:23

      Gotta actually vote them in first though....

      ocon777 - 2011-05-16 16:14

      NO Yebo! (haha) That is racist talk.... You must be a thinker, and only thinkers are racist... ;)

  • TheWasp - 2011-05-16 11:05

    The lady backing the ANC was about to cook Sheep heads on the side of the road......I think that pretty much sums it up?

      GT - 2011-05-16 11:20

      Do you have a problem with someone doing an honest days work?

      stukyster - 2011-05-16 11:37

      If you've ever been in a township, you'd know that sheep heads is a delicacy, being cooked on the side of the road to attract more customers. You and I might find it repulsive to eat a sheep's head, but you must remember that there are many different cultures in this country.

      nic - 2011-05-16 12:30

      @stukyster...you must learn to spell...its custamaz ;) Fair point though!

      Dilika - 2011-05-16 14:34

      TheWasp may be you don't know, it is revenue from those sheep heads and African beer sold at the road side, that ensured that some of us darkies can today call ourselves University graduates. My mother sold trotters and fat cakes (despite apartheid harrasment) to put me and my siblings through varsity and I am proud of her. Go and read a book called "Down Second Ave" by the late E'skia Mphahlele and then you will know what I am talking about.

      Realist - 2011-05-16 15:27

      Talk about chips on the shoulder. Shouldnt this woman selling her goods be in a position to have a little shop, to be encouraged as an entrepreneur, maybe even cook delicacies on a proper stove with hygienic facilities?? Thats the point and the irony of it, she is still struggling, but will continue to support the ANC who has done nothing for her, hence the fact that she is cooking on the side of the road!!

  • Sho Fukamachi - 2011-05-16 11:06

    Coloured, white, black. Always about skin colour.

      DarkAngel - 2011-05-16 11:33

      pity hey!

      Richard - 2011-05-17 00:06

      Go figure... the perfect platform to open a constructive debate and people allow ignorance to lead their thoughts instead of thinking for themselves and paying honest homage to the facts. We all have a lot to learn not a single person has all the answers or ever has, we need to let go of outmoded ideas. The problem/solution isn't out there, its within each one of us. The emotions that tie us to the past can be like chains that prevent us from creating something better. We first need to free ourselves within to achieve results aligned with the spirit of truth.

  • Grey B - 2011-05-16 11:07

    Even in the apartheid era have the then white parties cared about coloureds, still now this applies, The black parties will never care for coloureds, not even their own people, money and status is all that is important to them!

  • Mxo32 - 2011-05-16 11:07

    If I was the so called Coloured, I will be worried about this. Everyone is trying to bed them by claiming to have their interest and this is coming from non coloured.....

      Hardtail - 2011-05-16 11:32

      and you mxo? you stand behind manyi? and malema? and zuma? and their open hatred, and despicable statements made about other south africans?

      Mxo32 - 2011-05-16 11:40

      Hardtail -dont know where you got that but you are wrong.

      Together - 2011-05-16 12:37

      perhaps you should copy and paste them all for Mxo32 - we've had a full 3 years of being told to bugger off, that we aren't really Africans, that the people producing food should shot (but that's only a joke), that companies should be nationalised, that coloured Capetonians should get less jobs, that we're still in a revolution (which means there's an enemy, and the enemy is everyone who isn't a Polokwane cadre)... We've all listened, Mxo32, and we've got the message loud and clear.

      ocon777 - 2011-05-16 16:22

      If I was the "so called coloured" I would be worried about who is going to help my coloured ass, not who can break dance the best and show off with the most expensive stuff. Because we all knows coloured ouz dance the best!

  • Simza - 2011-05-16 11:07

    I sense a lot of racism in this article. Hate to read 'black man' and 'white man' generalisations. Recently i heard or know DA as a multi-racial party so as the ANC. I can never vote for a black man, what the hell is that about?

      Hannes van der Linde - 2011-05-16 11:25

      The logical deduction is that certain parties are just affiliated with long standing portraid images. Eg. ANC = Black Man / FF+ = White Man. It's just the stigma that is attached by the lesser educated in terms of party composition. However, having a couple of white ANC members or a couple of black FF+ members does not make them a multi-ratial party. ANC will still be regarded as a black party and FF+ as white. The DA is the only party really trying hard to achieve multi racial-status and unite the counrty once and for all. VIVA DA, you will unite this country!!

      7704XX - 2011-05-16 11:40

      SIMZA YOU CAN HDE BEHIND ROSE TAINTD GLASSES IF YOU LIKE -THE ANC HAS BEEN REINFORCINGBLCK MANAND WHITE MAN FOR PASTFIVE YEARS ...... THE ANC ARE RACIST !! END OF STORY

      marisa.cronje - 2011-05-16 12:09

      that might be so.... but there's a damn sight more racism in the ANC.

      Lindsay Willenberg - 2011-05-16 13:50

      As racist as it sounds and it probably is. It is in response to those who have been neglected and left behind for too long. Judging by her profession i am familiar with these people who work hard on the side of the road and never get the respect that they and every south african deserves. No excuses for her comment but i can see why she is so blunt about her feelings.

      ANC-FTL - 2011-05-17 09:23

      Koos you keep saying things that make you look stupid - do you think people are going to take you seriously even though you provide no proof. Why are the DA racist show us the facts behind your random blabber. ANC are racist all you have to do is read up or look at their supporters ie. you.

  • tut - 2011-05-16 11:10

    Thanks to Mr. Manyi, the ANC will lose hands down in the WC.

      Realist - 2011-05-16 15:31

      Koos, wow, is this the education your ANC have given you?It figures, it is reflection of what your party and like minded comrades think! You are an ambassador for the ANC AND WHAT IT HAS PRODUCED!

      Stateman - 2011-05-16 15:48

      Koos you are a d##s

      ocon777 - 2011-05-16 16:28

      and Ol Uncle Tony

  • Malcolm - 2011-05-16 11:15

    Helen Zille made an interesting and very true comment on a live debate last night. The DA is the party that is currently upholding the legacy of Nelson Mandela. If Nelson Mandela wants to support his own ideals, he needs to put his cross in the DA box.

  • WiseOwl2 - 2011-05-16 11:18

    ANC = BLACK POWER to the non-exclusion of all other Races of our Rainbow Nation. We now have a black Verwoerd goverment in power. God help us please !!!

      Hardtail - 2011-05-16 11:42

      interesting, how the winners so quickly resemble the hated oppressor... the old anc of '94, is no longer, it is now a new ANC, using the same tricks that worked for 50 years for the NP...

  • cracknose - 2011-05-16 11:19

    People need to stop polarising in their comments. If you make the ANC the black party, and the DA the "rest of them" party, then the DA will forever lose. The ANC is the losing party (eventually - if you look at their downward trend) and the DA is the future, modernised and educated party who will take this country to the next level. Just stop polarising. You are shooting yourself in the foot by doing so.

      ALCAB - 2011-05-16 17:59

      The A.N.C. claims to be a non-racist party but will never have a white leader.!!!

  • Extra - 2011-05-16 11:20

    Before I was like i'm not going to vote, but this site changed my mind. Come May 18, I have to do what i have to do, I mean the right thing. By the way, yesterday's rallys said it all.

      Realist - 2011-05-16 15:32

      If you have not registered, you will not be able to vote, and if you dont vote, dont complain!

  • gunner145 - 2011-05-16 11:23

    at mxo32 a real jimmy manyi here.We fought just as hard as you in the struggle now were not ethnic african.Will never vote for the anc again rather not vote

      Mxo32 - 2011-05-16 11:27

      gunner145- not disputing your struggle credentials...all I want to know is who do you consider yourself...black or white...

      Hardtail - 2011-05-16 11:45

      mxo...did you perhaps or are you working the state bureau of racial classification? has your department managed to finish the yellow star design yet? how about a pink triangle for gays, a red one for commies, and do not forget the striped pajama's.....viva NP, sorry...Viva ANC...

      HCrouse - 2011-05-16 11:45

      Mxo32. That's really what it's all about for you, isn't it? The ANC loves non-thinkers like you.

      FranklySpeak - 2011-05-16 12:02

      Mxo32, why do you care how he sees himself? I see myself as an Afrikaans speaking African, since I was born and raised here, just as my parents and grand parents and those before them.

      Paralegal - 2011-05-16 12:24

      Geez Mxo32, don't you get it?!?! It has NOTHING to do with colour!!!! Only the blooming ANC supporters keep harping on about "are you black or white?". I don't give a damn what colour you are as long as you do good by the people, as long as there is service delivery, as long as more jobs are created...and quite frankly the ANC is doing very badly in this regard.

      Together - 2011-05-16 12:41

      gunner145 probably considers himself a South African citizen, born here and expected to contribute and benefit under the consitution of this country. Under Apartheid gunner145 would have had to state his race - he probably thinks that the freedom of 1994 ended all that seperate development stuff, which was the foundation of Apartheid tailored by Verwoerd. Seperate development = apartheid.

      KnysnaSha - 2011-05-16 15:55

      @Mxo32, why must he consider himself black or white? Everybody knows that there is a lot more than just black and white in this world, there's a whole range of greys in between. Nothing is so clear cut.

      ocon777 - 2011-05-16 16:33

      and thats all that seems to be important to MXO, black and white. TV is much better in colour MXO! you should try it sometime.

  • ji - 2011-05-16 11:24

    D A for a party that cares about all South Africans and not only for the few fat cat at the top . vote against corruption , VOTE DA .

  • Nichola - 2011-05-16 11:25

    White, Black, Coloured, Indian, whatever we are all people of the earth and should learn to live together and build a great country together, after all underneath our outer colour we are all the same.

      HCrouse - 2011-05-16 11:44

      and world peace too

      Realist - 2011-05-16 15:35

      Nichola, you are absolutely right, however ONLY people with first world mentalities want that, the rest will vote according to racial lines, they are uneducated and stupid, that is why we have the current situation in SA at the moment, and unless more educated free thinkers become voters (our children), SA will belong to the racist black party of the day!

      HueyPNewton - 2011-05-16 17:40

      @Realist. " I'll never vote for a black man, never,"

  • thurnie - 2011-05-16 11:26

    "The coloured group is tipped to back the DA - years after many cast their first votes in 1994 for apartheid's white minority nationalists that oppressed them but ranked them higher than blacks." The above statement rings so true, when will coloured people understand that their circumstances have not changed a bit since either came into power. The DA conveniently tells coloured how to fear the "swart" gevaar, while they are certainly no better. How has peoples lives in lavis town, bonteheuwel, heideveld, manenberg, mitchell's plain been changed be the white administration of the DA? This online medium is used by the privileged few to whom the DA has brought some smiles, if the greater CPT were to be online, a different story would be told. Coloured people needs to face the hard truths, they being played like puppets (Patricia a prime example - She is being used to garnish the remaining coloured votes which the ID held to create the overwhelming the DA is seeking) and being forgotten after the vote is over... The DA is certainly only looking to improve service delivery in white and privileged areas, if you were clever people, you would vote accordingly and not because the DA tells you they have delivered - Remember they only have a small province to run, while the ANC has an entire country - be mindful that we share this country with other South Africans, black, white, indian/asian alike - help build it - dont vote to divide it ;)

      HCrouse - 2011-05-16 11:41

      Patricia left the PAC because she realised that they don't know and don't care how to make things happen for the people. She has been an active and vocal opposition to corruption as long as she has been in politics. YOU are the puppet, my boy.

      Hardtail - 2011-05-16 11:49

      lmao..pathetic...because goverment = anc, and they have a whole country, they have more resources than a province, therfor, if the ANC was interested in upliftment, it would or rather should be a lot easier for them to accomplish because of scale...

      Pharo - 2011-05-16 12:35

      Is your real name Tony Eherenreich?

      Kevin - 2011-05-16 15:18

      @Thurnie...post 94 almost 1.2million people from the Eastern Cape/Transkei have been bussed into the Cape Metropole seeking refuge yet placing major strain on infrastructure.The ANC lost the WC only 5yrs ago to the DA...which leaves a 12 yr period of incompetant rule during which almost no service delivery occured.Even though the DA has much to achieve with regards to delivery it still manages to turn the region around and achieve qualified audits with regards to expenditure.Remember during the ANC period of governing the region all emphasis was placed on delivering to the new migrants and everyone had to take a back seat.

      thurnie - 2011-05-16 16:36

      Patricia is a puppet - she has no voice of her own and never will as long as she is a DA member. In fact, no senior coloured DA official ever had one. Dan Plato never addressed a community without the "madam"... In hangberg and kayelitsha - where issues occurred - The mayor had to address the people as it was a City of Cape Town issue, yet the Premier overshadowed the mayor? Its the case of "wie is baas". The idea that only white people can fix and rule is an authoritarian idea of the Apartheid system and this we need to change. Patricia, ever since joining the DA has not once talked on issues relating to South Africa, neither the ruling party. She has been silenced. And Kevin, post 94 - thousands of houses were built, water and sanitation was delivered to shack dwellers and electricity points were installed - something the apartheid government had no worries about. Basic Services were delivered to all across the country, not just the western cape. This is not a country on its own - governments responsibility is greater than what you think, unlike the Nationalist government who's only responsibility was the white people. Are you disgruntled because you have to stand in the same queue as the rest? and that you no longer a beneficiary? I suggest people like Kevin, Hcrouse and Hardtail get a life and with the programme... when it was asked of you to end the divide you were to concerned on gathering wealth and now when the poor and oppressed had fought for their freedom..

      thurnie - 2011-05-16 16:45

      ... you feel the need to take them back to that dreaded era of division and oppession? shame on all of you! If you think the DA were the ones who gave these people basic services, then i pity all of you. Go and find out who were the ones who implemented and steamrolled it all.. ask the people who have been living in low cost housing for more than 10 years and find out if they had running water and toilets since then... The ANC has many faults, but their cause for a better south africa has never changed.. the message of Mandela and the party has been consistent throughout the years and they have never "rebranded","relaunched" or changed "manefesto's" to gather poor voters, they have always been pro poor and advocating for a better life for all! Not much can be said about the DP - turned DA, a conservative party who was formed on the basis of serving the elitist white minority. Go read up on them ;). If you think they have changed, ive got news for you! I invite all the DA supporters, the white folk who congratulate the "clever" coloureds.. please highlight how coloured peoples lives and service to their areas have changed? show or indicate these changes to us, as i happen to come from there... dont sit in your cosy homes spewing propaganda on how the "DA" has delivered when you have never even entered a coloured or black suburb..

  • shiela - 2011-05-16 11:29

    Coloureds should stand up and claim what is theirs,they are a true product of the RSA,they did not infiltrate,they belong here and here belongs to them,they have been used and abused for too long. STAAN OP LAT JULLE STEM TEL. DIE KAAP DIE MOOISTE KAAP HOU HAAR VAS,SY BEHOORT AAN JOU.

      kolobe - 2011-05-16 11:37

      used and abused by who?i think you choose to be abused

      Wolraad Woltemade - 2011-05-16 12:14

      @Newton - Jy speel op Afbob se stoep.

      Koos - 2011-05-16 14:24

      Shiela can you please explain to me, what is a coloured? what is a Khoi and San? coloured have no claim in anything,coloured are the result of force sex by horny european man when they got here without womans, although some did have relation with local lasses

      Tito - 2011-05-16 14:47

      Huey, please enlighten us, on what a pure black man is. And please don't give us your own opinion, maybe point us to a url that might give us the scientific formula. Last time I checked though, there is only a 2% difference in Dna between us and chimpanzees. I'll wait for the url..

      HueyPNewton - 2011-05-16 15:13

      @Tito. That means a black man of African origin without any European, Asian, South Indian etc roots, unlike the coloureds. Thats what a pure black African man is.

      Kevin - 2011-05-16 15:40

      @HueyPNewton...your hatred burns deep.What i find ironic is that we've two white candidates,both ANC,in our area.With Zuma/Malema both promoting racial division...how could they possibly be comfortable with the situation.Hence we've not heard a murmur from either during campaign.

      Tito - 2011-05-16 16:21

      Huey, thanks for your valuable insight, but like I said I was not interested in your opinion. Scientifically, prove to me the "purity" of it all, or otherwise I say your opinion is based on outward appearance (possibly dark skin, kinky hair, anatonomy, or whatever YOU choose to be the mystical purity factor). I say an African, is a person who is born in Africa. Our value systems might be different as a people or individuals,my suggestion is that we cast our vote to the party that can best tailor those values. I know where my vote is going.

  • rog - 2011-05-16 11:29

    This article sounds like it was written in the aparteid years"The coloured group".ANC= HELP FOR THE POOR AND RICH.DA= HELP FOR THE RICH ,AND OH YES,ALMOST FORGOT ABOUT THE POOR.

      Hardtail - 2011-05-16 11:51

      lmao..more twits...

      Matt - 2011-05-16 11:56

      Come to Primrose, go to the townships there and tell us again the ANC cares for the poor people...

  • matthewlouw - 2011-05-16 11:30

    I just pray that on Wednesday the people of South Africa vote with their heads and not with their hearts. The ANC has had 17 years to prove themselves to its people but have failed dismally. As Helen Zille has said, lend the DA your vote. If you're not happy with them, you can vote them out at the next election. I believe the DA deserve to be given a chance. They've delivered in the Western Cape. The black people of SA need to stop being loyal to the ANC because they brought them out of the struggle. That struggle is long gone. South Africa is now struggling with the corruption of the ANC.

      thurnie - 2011-05-16 17:19

      People will vote along racial lines, no matter what you do! We have not gotten past the idea that we are a non-racial and inclusive rainbow nation Mattie :). Just look on this forum/comment feedback and you will read into the subtle racist comments on how "black" people cant rule.. Even your comments could be concluded as such. My interaction with both black and white, both being racist towards each other, but the shocking reality is how young white people, below 25, has taken the racist position - one only wonders what conversation are happening in their homes, which makes me believe that not much have changed in the hearts and minds of the white minority. Even my own race (coloured) takes this stance, and some of my family has very very racist views towards black people - simply because this is what has been indoctrinated by the apartheid government to find favour with the coloured people by classing them better than their black brothers and sisters. We need to change these ideas, but we cant do so if we only criticize the ANC because they are black. We need to offer some constructive criticism and be part this change. Likewise with the DA - who have failed to deliver basic and needed services to the poor of Cape Town - as people we cannot ignore that these facts, we need to say it as it is and not ignore a party's failures because we are simply loyal or share the same skin colour. I urge the white folk to work together for a better life for all its citizens.

  • Mad man - 2011-05-16 11:30

    I don`t care what some of the Coloured people say about the ANC. The point is that the DA or a white man will never rule this country again. If on Wednsday 18 the ANC looses Pretoria, JHB, Durban and Port Elizaberth the will be blood in this country because the DA would have bribed voters.

      VIC - 2011-05-16 11:53

      Mad man, your name says it all!! If the DA wins, it will mean that the general public have finally woken up and seen what the ANC really is about. ANC have had plenty of chances and they have failed badly, time to give somebody else a chance and if the DA dont provide then they should also be replaced.

      Hardtail - 2011-05-16 11:53

      Ah, another one...desperately hoping and praying, scared of losing, and threatening death, war, violence, looting, raping, pillaging and genocide if they lose...a genuine, ANC supporter, how good to see one that is not afraid to let their true colours show.

      HCrouse - 2011-05-16 11:56

      Listen to yourself. You are the one we see on TV in some Godforsaken African country with a panga in your hand, shouting into the camera with a decomposing body in the street behind you, while your country burns. You have no reason. You're what makes Africa a joke to the world.

      Maddy-CT - 2011-05-16 12:08

      "Our demand is for a non-racial society - we are fighting for a society where people will cease thinking in terms of colour...It's not a question of race; it's a question of ideas". Nelson Mandela

      WhiteAfrican - 2011-05-16 12:56

      Mad man Would you take a second and read what you've said? You'd rather see people dead, your own included than have a proper governing body to build your future and that of your children? If this is what we have to deal with I'm afraid my worst fears for South Africa will come true. Its bad enough as it is, but trust me, it can get a lot worse, for you and I. Is your life really worth giving up for blind hatred? Can't you for once sit back and think, really think about your vote. Block everything else out of your mind and base the decision on facts. I beg you, think about it, and think carefully! Our lives may depend on it.

      Koos - 2011-05-16 14:29

      Mad man, don't worry DA will never rule this country,they will never win Durban and that is for sure,who are they to think they can win.

      Stateman - 2011-05-16 15:54

      Are you FREE or are U DOM

      supporter - 2011-05-16 16:59

      are you threatening the white people???

  • Sh@rks Fever - 2011-05-16 11:35

    I would like to believe that the DA is a multi racial party. No whites will ever use the same antics that was used in the apartheid years. Yes there is a few whites still very racist, but that nowdays are in the minority. But you get that in all race groups. What I believe is that the African people of this country which are the majority should give a multi racial party like the DA a chance if the ANC doesn't work for them. Note that as an african you might not think that due to the campaigns of people like Ju Ju that try and make the DA out as a white party only. If a party like the DA wins they are only in power for so many years. If africans are not satisfied with what they do for the country then simply go back to the ANC. You will have nothing to lose.

  • WhiteAfrican - 2011-05-16 11:38

    To all ANC voters: I'm not saying don't vote for the ANC, I'm not saying vote for the DA, I'm saying make your own mind up and decide what is BEST for you and your children. Please think about it carefully. Your vote has the power and no one should be allowed to intimidate you into voting for them. Please do not let your hatred ruin your chance to give your children a better future. Vote for the party who has the best record. If they disappoint you, you could always vote for a different party next time. That is what democracy is all about. I'm asking you to take a chance. What do you have to lose? Open yourself up to opportunities. This isn't the way its supposed to be people but we can change it. I beg you, vote with your head, not your heart!

  • Yasr - 2011-05-16 11:38

    Im voting for Tony. Note that the main DA supporter in the article are the uneducated :) What a lag.

      Lindsay Willenberg - 2011-05-16 14:07

      You do that sir. See how far that gets you. Who is laughing last.

      ALCAB - 2011-05-16 18:17

      It is worse if your leaders are uneducated.

  • HCrouse - 2011-05-16 11:38

    "When the DA won, everything changed. We got electricity and toilets. Sorry about the truth," said Khayelitsha shack dweller Zameka Belani, 30. There it is. No race kak, no insults, no horror history. Just a man who realised that it's actually about service delivery.

      Johncarlos Biza - 2011-05-16 18:33

      Great quote. He sounds even more intelligent than some of the educated folk online

  • Rene Kruger - 2011-05-16 11:39

    I really don't care about which party wins. What I want to know is what they will do...I still see too many (black,white,coloured,orange,whatever) living in squalor. I will vote, maybe some minority party will be able to swing a vote and get this Banana Republic sorted out. I love this country, I just don't love where we are going.

  • Rob - 2011-05-16 11:42

    DA needs to really listen to the Black people and take action if they want their votes. On the other hand, ANC needs to realise that the days of Madiba are gone and they are not the party they were. Time to move on to the future instead of relying on the past both good or bad.

      Lindsay Willenberg - 2011-05-16 14:14

      The DA needs to listen to all people pardon me. Its not about blacks and whites. The ANC needs to stand up and take an account of what they brought to your community. There are squatter camps being built up whever i look. Things have gotten worse in these 15 years. I dont see how we can be the new south africa if the countries resources that should be used on the less fortunate are so blatantly mismanaged and smeared in our face. Look out how the criminal elements conduct there business without fear of the law raining down on them. We have a police commissioner who is more concerned about defending his force and issueing wild west statements then getting the job done. Our country is in squallor and it will get worse. We cant hide the truth anymore.

  • Mart - 2011-05-16 11:44

    The ANC has failed all the citizens of this country. What was begun with so much hope pre-1994 has disintegrated into badly organised chaos under their stewardship. The ANC's promise of a better life for all is an 'empty promise. The 'new' ANC is but a fraction of what the old ANC represented, and it is so fragmented and volatile that it is no longer deserving of the liberation movement mantle that it tries to portray. Do you keep buying sour milk disguised as fresh milk from the same supplier, in the hope that the next batch will be good ??

      Fanie - 2011-05-16 15:37

      I would argue that it is not the ANC per se that has failed but some elements within have tended to fail in as much the general white population has failed to embrace the majority of black people in their corporate enclave. The ANC's gently persuasion strategy of 25% BEE and gently push towards employment equity is the real problem that has made them to fail. A lot of multinational corporations in South Africa continue to frustrate capable black people under the disguise of perpertual development programmes and the ANC old guard think there is progress when they see a less than 1% growth in black executives within these corporates. Fact of the matter is that someone at some point must take a bold decision to force this change within corporates and no other party can do that except the ANC itself which is gradually rotting from within whilst waiting for change to happen...The fact that whites are more likely to get employed than blacks says a lot about this willingness to change...

  • Lekker Jan - 2011-05-16 11:50

    Yep, sad reality for those remaining in SA. You have to vote DA, only because they are the opposition, not because of what they stand for really. Sad.

  • ExRecce - 2011-05-16 11:50

    And the true problem in South Africa is............. Identity crisis!!! What do I want to be called today??? 50% this, 30% that, 95% Hither......... Everyone with a tad of colour on the skin is arguing the fact of what to be. Please make a decision now. Jan arrived here in 1652 and since then nobody knows what to call each other!!!!

  • jowza - 2011-05-16 11:55

    wonder if they had to pass the pencil test to qualify to vote for the da

      Felix - 2011-05-16 12:39

      Wonder how you going to enforce BEE haha.

      jowza - 2011-05-16 13:30

      huh?

  • Maddy-CT - 2011-05-16 12:00

    It seems that many people do not know the post-apartheid history of the DA & ANC. After the dismantling of Apartheid in 1994, the former Apartheid Government, the National Party, under F W de Klerk, quit the National Unity Government to become part of the opposition, and after 1998 the New National Party (NNP) was formed. The liberal Democratic Party, which opposed Apartheid and fought for majority rights, became the leading opposition party. In 2000 it joined forces with the NNP to form the Democratic Alliance (DA). However, due to the strong ideological differences between the DA and the NNP, that coalition survived only until late 2001, when the NNP LEFT TO FORM A COALITION WITH THE ANC. As a result of its poor showing in the April 2004 elections, the NNP merged with the ANC and voted to disband in April 2005. The DA and Helen Zille, who is a progressive liberal, will always stand for a non-racial society, where all people, irrespective of race or class, will receive equal consideration. That is why I have always and will now continue to support the DA.

      Lindsay Willenberg - 2011-05-16 14:18

      Folks always fail to educate themselves when in fact Hellen Zille was a journalist reporting on the atrocities of the apartheid government when she was younger. She is far from being a racist and elitist. You can see that this woman wants to make a difference for all. If you dont support the DA, fine but dont put your vote behind a party that does not care about this country.

      Johncarlos Biza - 2011-05-16 18:36

      Hahaha so in other words, the NP had more "ideological similarities" with the ANC than the DP. Kolobe et al need to read this