DA claims 6% of black votes

2011-05-19 09:21

Pretoria - The DA said it took at least 6% of the black vote nationally, a party strategist said on Thursday.

“We are happy with this and are going to build on what we have created in this election,” Ryan Coetzee told Sapa at the IEC results centre in Pretoria.

“It’s a matter of momentum and growth… We want to attract much more black voters by 2014.”

He stressed the party wanted to shift black support from the ruling ANC. The DA was happy with the election turnout and confident of a landslide victory of up to 60% in Cape Town.

It however did not expect a win in the Nelson Mandela Bay district.

“We expected the ANC will win that council, followed by the DA and then Cope. We were hoping that if enough black voters shifted their support in this municipality, the ANC would not get its 50%.”

DA spokesperson Gareth van Onselen said they had retained Midvaal in Gauteng, taking nine of the 14 wards. One of the wards, he said, had been taken from the ANC.

“The information is coming in slowly, but we have heard that the DA has also taken Baviaans in the Eastern Cape.”

The party said there was no indication of any corruption during Wednesday’s voting and was “pretty happy” with the election process.

  • G7 - 2011-05-19 09:26

    change is slow moving progress ... DA soon its very soon

      kolobe - 2011-05-19 09:47

      that 6% comes from id and cope not the anc

      Christo - 2011-05-19 09:51

      lol where does COPE come from?

      David Bushy - 2011-05-19 10:02

      You lie Kolobe,comes from me as a fomer ANC voter...but never again...

      Kgomotso - 2011-05-19 10:06

      Kolobe that is a fact. WC solid win was mainly because of ID joining force with DA. That trend is even from National election ANC has never lost vote to DA.

      Dougalan - 2011-05-19 10:11

      The real number to watch is the overall percentage. In the last election, the ANC got 65% - just under two thirds. Now every percentage point below that will indicate a falling away from the ANC. Let us watch the final numbers, - 2011-05-19 10:15

      They look at the overall number of voters from statistics and representational data from various areas to work out the sums to get the 6% figure they claim. Nothing to do with speical ballot papers.

      AmandaWhereTo - 2011-05-19 11:36

      Ultimately over the last few years the ANC has started to slide. The DA have surpassed my expectations in this election to be honest. While the ANC may have a large portion of the electorate, you need to look at long term momentum. And that should set off panic sirens in the ANC camp as it's a sign . Who would have thought you would need to start working for your riches someday huh?

      Enough! - 2011-05-19 13:03

      kolobe! that is what you think! i know differently! and that is just the beginning! was my first vote for the DA all the way and I know more and more will follow from ALL south africans looking for a better future!!

      Enough! - 2011-05-19 13:14

      kgomotso. the DA had 42% in 2006. the ID 10%. that makes 52%. looks like the DA could get more than that now! maybe it could also be your brother, sister or friend that voted DA this time. why it such an issue for you?

      objective1 - 2011-05-19 14:12

      kolobe is ashamed... he is a closet DA voter.. thanks kolobe. Welcome to real change.

  • Slikka Intertainment Intertainment - 2011-05-19 09:28

    not bad. 6% of 18000000 black voters, not bad at all.

      SSRat - 2011-05-19 09:34

      That makes over 1 million enlightened black voters who are taking a stand and saying "NO MORE, this stops now!"

      sefeddt - 2011-05-19 09:44

      A long journey begins with the first step.

  • prev-ABUSED - 2011-05-19 09:29

    But the fact remains: DA will never run this country

      Barry - 2011-05-19 09:34

      @ prev-ABUSED Gaan weg Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan wegg Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan weggggggggggg

      Willem Olivier - 2011-05-19 09:34

      Not the DA, but a Democratic Alliance. A party that caters for all.

      googoodude - 2011-05-19 09:35

      Never say never!! The more corrupt ANC gets the better for DA! Please ANC do us a favour and continue to screw up, only looking after your own Fat cats!!

      My Comment - 2011-05-19 09:35

      Only time will tell. So long as the ANC keeps shooting itself on the foot, there is hope. (former ANC supporter).

      Craig - 2011-05-19 09:36

      Because the corrupt government will find a way for it to never happen! Give it another generation (when education trumps loyalty votes) then we will see what happens in SA politics...

      Philip - 2011-05-19 09:36

      Never is a long long long time. Maybe not 2014, but by the next election, either the ANC will silence the media and rig the elections or alternatively they will be booted out by the very same black people who put them into power...

      Errol - 2011-05-19 09:37

      Why ever not?

      Rob Gunning - 2011-05-19 09:38

      why? Your comment is basless charged only by your own personal loyalties which are nonsensical.

      Auds - 2011-05-19 09:42

      Awe shame man! who abused you?

      Craig44 - 2011-05-19 09:48

      The actual question is.... If the cANCer were to lose... Would they give up power????

      Akasha29 - 2011-05-19 09:50

      Oh how simpleminded some people are... wake up and smell the coffee, if it's broke, fix it... Nothing has been done by the ANC to better anyone's situation... Try something new for heaven's sake

      Clinton - 2011-05-19 09:53

      Well its the only party that has been successfull look at the audit in Cape Town it was the only Town with 100%, what you say about that?

      Jacques Claasens - 2011-05-19 09:59

      Yip, people first said that whites will never govern this country, what happened they did. Then they to got arrogant and said the ANC will never govern this country and what happened, they did and still do. Count your words the DA will one day govern this country and the ANC to will fall, might not be in my lifetime but it will happen.

      Jason - 2011-05-19 10:16

      Never say never, if the ANC carry on like they are that might not be the case. Think this is a warning... Can't keep promising and not delive... DA don't need to win they just need to apply pressure...

      will294 - 2011-05-19 10:16

      The problem is that the ANC are not running the country either - they don't know how to ! They have realized that it is not just a case of sitting at a desk - you actually have to know what you are doing an be effective

      Lauren - 2011-05-19 10:24

      Sure, but they will at least be watching ANC all the way and at least make sure that they don't turn into utter despots, doing what they want unchecked. You should be grateful for that.

      Tracey Nielsen - 2011-05-19 11:13

      Give it some time. More and more people are opening up their eye and realising the truth!

      DieBaas - 2011-05-19 11:13

      dude you are still abused!

      Lady2lee - 2011-05-19 13:49


      coen - 2011-05-19 14:27

      Prev- Abused. You are still being abused. The ANC still spykers you and you are so deurmekaar you don't even notice it. Good luck.

  • Phutie - 2011-05-19 09:33

    Thats incredible considering their policies,but they shall never get mine,I would rather go to hall than to vote for the people who benefited in National Party apartheid

      ManOTMoment - 2011-05-19 09:40

      Please go ahead and go to

      WhiteEagle - 2011-05-19 09:40

      Which proves that you just another brainless puppet stuck in a time zone Go AWAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

      The All Seeing Eye - 2011-05-19 09:43

      ANd you will never recieve service delivery. By the way educate yourself on the DA they fought against apartheid Helen was even in prison. I know bantu education was hard on you but try and overcome it please.

      sefeddt - 2011-05-19 09:48

      Make sure the hall is not in an ANC led region, its likeley to be burnt down in a service delivery protest.

      MaanDonkie - 2011-05-19 09:49

      Go to which hall, community hall??? Your understanding of politics is clearly as advanced as you spelling!!! (ps it's spelt with an E)

      Clinton - 2011-05-19 09:49

      You not very educated i guess

      Wernerkwane - 2011-05-19 09:51

      Dear Mr Phutie, from your grammar and spelling I can see that you are "uneducated", thus I expect nothing less from you. You see, only the uneducated will continue to beat a dead horse, and by the way, the DA are not the enemy, they are simply an alternative. Say it slowly after me de-mo-cra-cy.

      DW - 2011-05-19 10:01

      But your president said you would go to heaven, so you are safe, arent you? You will live your hell on earth with no service delivery, a pathetic education for your children, a health system that is in the most shocking state that you should be scared to ever have to go to hospital and the fatcats taking the spoils while you vote for them. But at least you'll go to heaven, hey?

      Jacques Claasens - 2011-05-19 10:07

      @Phuttie Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results. If you can rap your hod (head for the rest of us) around it I do believe that you will find the DA not being an enemy. A Election is not about voting for your 'buddy', "comrade" or "people". It's about a whole country, and who will look after the people the best. If you truly believe that that is the ANC, you should visit Cape Town and see for yourself. I did and I was shocked on how well things are working and the difference in attitude of the people in the area. The truly seem happy and confident in there counsel. Its not ALL roses of course, but its a hall of a lot better than Gauteng.

      OuWitBooi - 2011-05-19 10:17

      Phutie - you are cutting off your nose to spite your face. There is no doubt that I as a white person had opportunities that the blacks did not. But our family has always opposed apartheid using the democratic processes of the ballot box and the courts. Perhaps we didn't use your methods of burning down schools and necklacing the people we didn't like, but that is just a cultural difference (OK, I have to admit an uncle did go to jail for trying to blow up a post office, but we disowned him.) For you now to not want to associate with people like me, simply because I had luck that you didn't, indicates a very bigoted attitude. Would you hate someone just because they were lucky enough to win the lotto, even though they were keen to help you? You can see from the total lack of support that the FF+ has got in this election that the whites who supported apartheid have either emigrated or realised that we are all South Africans in the same boat, and we all have to work together. I hope that you can make that same change in your attitude some time soon. Forgiveness cannot change your past, but it can certainly change your future. You were robbed by the Nationalists, don't allow yourself to be robbed by the ANC simply because they are black. If the DA have received around 24% of the votes, but the whites make up less than 10% of the population, don't you think it is a mistake to regard the DA as a "white" party? Make the move to non-racialism and service delivery for all.

      Shistirrer - 2011-05-19 10:33

      Go to hall... 'skuus, wie se hol?

      ANC Ancestor - 2011-05-19 10:48

      I will have you know that you are the ones which are advantaged now.

      datraveller - 2011-05-19 11:05

      I would just like to know which policies you are referring to? The non racial open opportunities for all? Or are you referring to Affirmative Action? You may be glad in a racist kind of way to know that the DA actually supports Affirmative Action in its policies - if you like I can send you the proof.

  • Nick - 2011-05-19 09:35

    Go DA go, I am one of the blacks who voted for you

      Notbuyinface - 2011-05-19 09:49

      nick ypu are soo white, why claim you are black? are you ashamed of being white already? Say 'I am lying to these people in Zulu or Sotho'. - 2011-05-19 09:52

      Yay for all the cocnuts! We will save our country from itself if need be!

      Slayer - 2011-05-19 09:52

      MadeInAs? yea seems like you were made in someones ass...

      schmerz - 2011-05-19 09:55

      LOL, ashamed at being white? AAHAHAHAHAH

  • Dave Black - 2011-05-19 09:38

    And this will grow if ANC does not go back to founding principles. I think it is important they grow their support among black voters. I am not ready to vote for them though... - 2011-05-19 09:53

      You are right. It is very important our country gets an opposition party big enough to manage the ruling party and show they that they serve us, not the other way round!

      Lauren - 2011-05-19 10:30

      That's ok Dave. More than ok, actually. You buy into the need for a strong opposition and that is really all that matters. You aren't jumping up and down and wishing for a one party state like some people on here are. I commend you for your comment.

  • Psalm - 2011-05-19 09:43

    Am I missing something here? Has it not always been argued that DA is only able to attract approx 6% of the black vote, anyway? I seem to recall reading something to this effect...

      DW - 2011-05-19 10:06

      No you are misreading. 6% of the black vote is over R1m votes. If the DA has about 2m white votes and 1m coloured votes, 1m black votes would make DA 25% black. I am only using examples here, not actual numbers, just to demonstrate how % can be misleading

      chiefbambath - 2011-05-19 10:35

      @DW. are you saying the DA is white?

      Grant - 2011-05-19 10:36

      Yeah - 6% of the TOTAL black population is waaay more than 6% of DA voters. Ha ha - I love how percentages and stats can be so misleading and confusing... :P

      Psalm - 2011-05-19 10:57

      @ DW That is not the issue. The 6% figure refers to a % of the total Black vote. It is irrelevant how this translates to internal DA membership. We are talking about the capability of the DA to attract a significant Black vote. 6% of the total Black vote has previously been touted as the approx best the DA is capable of attracting. It is not breaking news or an achievement.

  • MadeInAS - 2011-05-19 09:43

    Fact,that woman will NEVER EVER RULE SA,yes some few black people voted for the DA so what,in the end majority rules FACT !!!

      will294 - 2011-05-19 09:49

      Doesn't reflect very well on the intelligence of the majority of vaoters then.

      sefeddt - 2011-05-19 09:54

      Nice to see not sexist or racist.

      Lauren - 2011-05-19 10:33

      You are right. If her party manages to win the majority, she would GOVERN. It's only the ANC that seems to think they should RULE over the people who they actually work for. The very people who pay their salaries. So, you are quite correct. FACT.

      CM - 2011-05-19 10:56

      Lauren I really like that word GOVERN, much more democratic than RULE and POWER which the ANC love to throw around.

      emile.marais - 2011-05-19 12:42

      MadeInAS you see there's a difference between 'ruling' a country and 'governing' a country. But the ANC and seemingly a lot of their supporters do not understand the difference between the two.

      l3jorn - 2011-05-19 13:42

      Shut your face you backward, sexist, racist moron. I'm surprised someone with your intellect, or rather lack thereof, is able to use a computer.

  • Nkateko Sibuyi - 2011-05-19 09:44

    Maybe the ANC will wake up after these election and start monitoring the municipalities on its service delivery promise. After 17 years you won't understand why people still complains about water, roads and electricity.

      chiefbambath - 2011-05-19 10:37

      Give the DA all munucipalities, there will be no more service delivery protests, no corruption, no nepotism, need i go on?

      Felix - 2011-05-19 11:24

      Chief, I see you aren't trolling today.

  • Craig44 - 2011-05-19 09:45

    Take the vote a few percentage points at a time. Let cANCer destroy themselves.... It is starting to show that the people a less gullible than 10 years ago. - 2011-05-19 09:56

      Correct. It is a journey for our country that is going in the right direction now!

  • DeonL - 2011-05-19 09:45

    So DA is not a whites only party. I am glad not all blacks believed Malema when he said that DA is for whites only.

      chiefbambath - 2011-05-19 10:39

      We are in the year 2011, if anyone believes what malema or steve hofmeyer says, will be transported back to 1985.

  • will294 - 2011-05-19 09:47

    94% of black voters presumably very happy with ANC performance - so would expect service delivery protests to drop radically??

      DW - 2011-05-19 10:09

      No, 94% of black voters did not vote for ANC. There are a whole lot who voted for COPE, UDF, IFP etc. And we are not even counting those who didnt vote as they are so unhappy with ANC but were not prepared to vote for anyone else. So claiming as fact what is obviously a lie.

      Dave Black - 2011-05-19 10:30

      Al lot of people dont vote ANC because they are unhappy but not convinced of DA

      Ogre - 2011-05-25 22:54

      Not nesseseraly the logical deduction. For instance in Mpumalanga less than 10% of voters went to the polls. Quite a large percentage of those not voting did so out of protest due to the lack of delivery by the ANC as well as the dispute about appointment of ward councillors.

  • Awol - 2011-05-19 09:47

    I have said it a thousand times on various forums: Give the DA 10 to 20 years and the ANC WILL be a minority party. Go DA, you are truly a shining star in this dark country of ours!! 6% of let say a 45% voter turn-out of 23,000,000, thus; 620,000 black people are starting to see that the ANC is slowly turning into a mediocre party!!

      Awol - 2011-05-19 09:51

      If we take it as 6% of registered voters: 1,380,000 voters: That is more than enough to literally obliviate any chances of the ANC EVER getting a 2/3 majority with National Elections coming up. The ANC is burning and independant candidates, minority parties and the DA i standing around the fire with petrol cans filled to the brim: Burn baby Burn, change is coming at the speed of a bullet train. We need to hold faith, we need to put our heads down and work hard for a country that has something to offer everyone in it a future. We will one day rejoice as this country will be one for all to live and feel free in it. No more alienation of minority groups, no more colour being a predominant factor for anyone to try and excel themselves!!

  • zulufox - 2011-05-19 09:48

    wow! six percent... what a huge number! what's six percent of 40-million? about 2.4 million... that's hardly an in-road...

      Awol - 2011-05-19 09:56

      Look at my previous comments, Zulufox. You are sarcastic about 6%, boet, joure hopes of a 2/3 majority is shot to hell!!!!! Do still consider 6% to be so minute? National elctions coming, and currently the ANC is shaking in their pants. Come 2014 they will be sh*tting their pants!!

      Albo - 2011-05-19 10:32

      The beginning of the end perhaps??? 6% this election, another 6% next election and so on... In 10-15 years time the ANC will be scratching theirs heads saying: "Eish"!!!

      Awol - 2011-05-19 10:40

      @Albo Look at my other comments on this forum. Exactly what I say, it is coming! And its not what Jacob Zuma said to one of his wifes last night.....

      l3jorn - 2011-05-19 13:47

      Yeah, and that's 2.4 million people clearly smarter than you.

      Ogre - 2011-05-25 23:01

      Look at the numbers. If you look at the voter turnout and do the math the "racist whites only" DA had at least 25% support from blacks, coloureds, indians etc, but most important, they were 100% South African with a conscience, a vision of a raceless and prosperous future and willing to do something about it.

  • David Bushy - 2011-05-19 09:50

    IM BLACK 28 YEARS OLD, LEAVING IN GAUTENG, AND IM PROUDLY PART OF THAT IMPRESIVE STATS...i've had enough with this arrogant party(ANC)..they will never EVER again get my vote...and i will keep influencing my friends to join me in the DA....

      Awol - 2011-05-19 09:57

      David Bushy: It is comforting to know that there are people that Do not associate political allegience with colour but rather what affects you and your community, like Barack Obama said: And I was in Washington the day it happended: YES WE CAN!!!

      shaun.cousins1 - 2011-05-19 10:00

      I like how the DA is refered to the "white Party" when I see People of colour being represented...even on posters...more than I can say for the corrupt ruling party.

      Gary S - 2011-05-19 10:10

      David, glad to see you did not give your vote away to a party that is hell bent on polarizing SA into race groups and stands for a corrupt future. That is not to say that the DA is perfect, they still have a way to go, but in my opinion they will do a far better job at creating the 'rainbow nation' than the ANC and its juju culture who are leading SA down a path of destruction - and for those who think that is far fetched, take a look at out northern neighbour is you need some convincing.

  • Journey - 2011-05-19 09:51

    I spoke to two of my Black friends yesterday - they did not vote, reason as they put it "I dont know who to vote for" - surely that must tell us something!

      RVQ - 2011-05-19 10:23

      Many who voted ANC in the past chose not to vote yesterday, I also sense the doubt in their voices when the speak about the ANC. Took a taxi a few months back when my car was in the shop and the driver was pissed, ANC supporter said I must not vote ANC...

  • Kgomotso - 2011-05-19 09:53

    DA said it took 6%. If it was IEC an Statistic SA it will be a credible statement

  • Dini325 - 2011-05-19 09:54

    It took the REAL ANC more than 40 years to break apartheid and to free our country from the evil government. The DA's time will come ... soon ... and free us from the corruption and racial indifference the ANC is ruling with!

      chiefbambath - 2011-05-19 10:42

      So correct.

  • Molemo ? - 2011-05-19 09:55

    wait until they some spit it their faces telling them how stupid they are, since they assume every black person votes for ANC

      Kgomotso - 2011-05-19 10:25

      Remember they had ambitions they are going to take Jozi and Tshwane blahblahblah. Reality striked very hard and they are bitter. Stupidity is the assumption they made that their choose is universal and a sign a intellect. No individual choose is universal If you like DA you vote DA you like ANC you vote ANC. Poverty, illiteracy, stupidity are irrelevant when it comes to votes. Votes goes to the direction of whom a person Identify him/herself with that count.

      chiefbambath - 2011-05-19 10:44

      The DA campaign was so appealing, it said nothing about race but service delivery, so if anyone insults africans for voting ANC they are not DA supporters.

  • Drewka - 2011-05-19 09:56

    Let us build on the 6% and get more black support, because the future holds great opportunities if we (All races in SA) have a good government that don’t discriminate against the poorest people. Soon the die-hard ANC support would change their tune, because CHANGE is on its way....

      chiefbambath - 2011-05-19 10:47

      I like the way you put it, no insults towards ANC supporters, thats how you win more black votes. insults and racist remarks are not helping

  • lenand40 - 2011-05-19 09:59

    I remember, David Duke (KKK) got 5% of the black vote in Louisiana when running for governor against Edwin Edwards in 1991. what a great improvement by the DA. Wow!!!

      emile.marais - 2011-05-19 12:52

      What's the DA got to do with the KKK? Comparing apples with oranges...

      l3jorn - 2011-05-19 13:49

      Still living in the past clearly.

  • RIMRIM - 2011-05-19 09:59

    As the younger more educated "non apartheid" blacks reach voting age the more the vote will shift from the ANC. Older blacks hold a grudge and resentment. They have blind loyalty to the ANC and will vote ANC no matter what for good or bad better or worse. Blacks must understand that whites want blacks to be economically active, we do not want shacks and slums, we do not want a poor population as it promotes crime and destroys the environment around us. As white business owners the more blacks that become economically active the more our client base grows and the wealthier we will become. Blacks in general think we want to oppress them, no its the complete opposite! Instead of cutting out whites with BEE and affirmative action rather promote white investment into black area's.

      RVQ - 2011-05-19 10:19

      True, BEE promotes the rich getting richer, still believe the system should be designed to promote investment in disadvantaged communities e.g. education... but then again education leads to voters moving away from the ANC...

      LilGhettoBoy - 2011-05-19 10:22

      Well their children are even worse, they don't even know why they are loyal to the ANC and how do you change such a mind, all they know is that Zille should never rule RSA. The DA needs a charismatic black leader as in yesterday and Zille should surround her with more black people, surely that would bring a smile on a black face.

      Journey - 2011-05-19 10:25

      Could not agree with you more!

      chiefbambath - 2011-05-19 10:53

      Lilghetoboy. You are worse, this 6% of black votes was fought for by DA leaders who are and still patient with their black supporters. its trash like you that insults on daily basis africans who dont supports the DA, DA's mandate is non racialism, they dont campaign using race but service delivery. The DA doesn't need rednecks like you

  • smahlaba - 2011-05-19 10:01

    wow, the ANC will get a serious wake up call...

      lenand40 - 2011-05-19 10:28

      Yes, I hear the ANC will hold a mourning session to mourn the loss of 6% black voters to the DA

      chiefbambath - 2011-05-19 10:54

      its better they dont wake up, they have been relaxed enough now

  • Awol - 2011-05-19 10:01

    There are people on this forum that say a woman will NEVER rule this country. It might be so and I agree, but as a staunch DA supporter I firmy believe that Helen Zille will never be president of the country. Im putting my neck on a block here BUT: Maimane of the DA in JHB is only 31 years old. I bet you he is currently being grooomed by the DA for president. If my previous prediction is correct (And I firmly believe it is) in 20 years time Maimane will be 50, thus, watch this space, that guy is a future Prez!! Viva DA Viva!! Viva Maimane Viva!! Viva Helen Zille Viva!! The blue tidal wave from the WC is coming and will wash away ALL that is bad of the ANC!!

      RVQ - 2011-05-19 10:16

      While being female may be part of it the main problem is the colour of her skin, so sadly she will never be president but our history books will speak of her, one of the brave many that lead the country to true democracy...

      mike881 - 2011-05-19 16:31

      I too am in awe of Maimane. Had the pleasure of listening to him both live and on TV. He is more articulate and intelligent than any other politician alive in SA at the moment! The guy is pure class and a born leader.

  • Nunya - 2011-05-19 10:02

    Who chased the ANC dogs out...woof, woof...the DA did, VIVA PRESIDENT ZILLE VIVA!!!!. To Tshepo, Maki and the one with stupid picture with the stupid eyes, pucker your lips, cause you gonna kiss DA @rse!!..I TOLD YOU SO...Damn I love this...Hahahahahahaha!!!!!

  • Thuso - 2011-05-19 10:02

    u still call them black while you arwe led by a white leader dam

      RVQ - 2011-05-19 10:13

      More than just black, proud South Africans!

  • Zakhele - 2011-05-19 10:05

    Lindiwe Mazibuko's dissertation and thesis topics and writing was based on how Helen Zille's mind worked. She spent the entire three years studying Helen Zille. He accent isn't like a township girl- sakhathala abelungu abamnyama! She is not a celebrity. She represents the people she must speak like the people. Can you imagine Helen Zille trying to speak like Hilary Clinton? Do you think the hard core Afrikaner DA would appreciate it? We blacks must be happy that here is a township girl and she speaks as if she was raised in Hout Bay, Constantia, Platteberg Bay? All her logic isn’t like that of the black majority. Do we want to waste our time listening to somebody like that? I guess the voters have answered that question for me-no need for me to answer. Bye.

      LilGhettoBoy - 2011-05-19 10:28

      Hi Zakhele moenie jella nie vang tips, you just wish that you spoeg visse like her. It's probably to late for you to go to a model C school now, but don't hate appreciate. Go for english classes and learn to pronounce words correctly and speak fluently. We are living in a global economy and live is not only about politics, soon the ANC will fall and the way you speak wont matter.

      Wayne - 2011-05-19 10:59

      Jealousy makes you nasty as her education is from a much higher standard than yours. I admire Lindiwe Mazibuko and watched 3rd degree and was amazed how confident she is in the DA and the manner she handled the situation where as the ANC spokesperson could not keep her trap shut and utter ignorant words to dominate the debate. I'm sorry but Lindiwe Mazibuko will likely be the next DA leader and she will have my vote for sure. You don't base your vote on someone's speech or their background but their knowledge and leadership to run this country in a honest and transparent way. I have to admit the ANC does sound a lot more illiterate than any other party.

      Zakhele - 2011-05-19 12:30

      @Wayne- "Jealousy makes you nasty as her education is from a much higher standard than yours". There is a problem with your statement. Lindiwe education higher than mine? It is not nice to boast about what one has got. But I wrote a grueling one and only one exam in the world where everybody writes the same paper-same time except for different time zone with the Middle East writing last-but difference of a few hours in between. Same exam the leading world bank leaders (Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, Deutche Banks World Bank, IMF, and others) write-that's all you are gonna get from me I hate boasting. I wouldn't dedicate the entire three years studying the mind of Helen Zille. And that is our future leader-who simply sits with Helen Zille and gets a pass for her thesis? I would simply go to her and ask what's up with her? Not to write an entire Lindiwe. The young woman was brainwashed by Zille and members of the DA. Poor little girl! What a waste of talent!

      l3jorn - 2011-05-19 13:52

      @Zakhele: If she's a waste of talent, you're a waste of air.

  • Pigmalion - 2011-05-19 10:11

    Does that means that 6% more of the previously disadvantaged are now educated?

  • Kgomotso - 2011-05-19 10:14

    I like one thing about DA the acknowledgement of the fact that it will never make in significate progress without Black support. Much as White people make more noise about everything they do not get you anywhere.

      Weso - 2011-05-19 10:53


      Martin - 2011-05-19 11:24

      I agree!!!! We need black support. Please dont confuse the DA supporters with those whites who still live in apartheid. As far as I am concerned this country has been ruled by idiots for the last 60 years. We just went from idiotic white rule to idiotic black rule, surely the right thing is somewhere in the middle. You also have to agree that the DA is doing a better job.

  • LilGhettoBoy - 2011-05-19 10:14

    6% is a shame, I thought maybe it would be more then 10. Well than it is obvious, DA will never rule SA.

      Awol - 2011-05-19 10:20

      Do you really think any further than your nose? Take 6% and translate it into numbers. Any party, including the ANC will say that losing that many voters is a MASSIVE blow!! Steadily but surely the DA is starting to know the ANC's light out!!

      LilGhettoBoy - 2011-05-19 10:43

      @ AWOL, do the maths, since DA were formed, they probably had 2% of the black vote, because even in 94 there were blacks which believed that ANC is no good otherwise there would've been more then 80% votes going to ANC. Now if you look at 4% in 10 years or going back to 94, 17 years. Well that would be 40% in 100 years or 170 years from now.

      Awol - 2011-05-19 10:43


      Awol - 2011-05-19 11:10

      What, where do you get your stats? Ok cool: lets take your stats: 4% in ten years OF THE BLACK VOTE, what about other ethnic groups and minorities suddenly voting DA? The DA is not after all the black votes, you have to take it in perspective. The DA will be gunning for at least 20% of the vote, thus it will take roughly 5 voting rounds to do it, with a voting round every 4 - 5 years, taking into account as numbers grow a percentage point in terns of numbers gets higher. So 5 voting round times 4 - 5 years per voting round? = 20 years Only 20% is what the DA need to enable them to rule the country for all. Again I say: The ANC is sh*tting their pants!!

      Old Realist - 2011-05-19 14:07

      Actually you are all missing the point and this is where the absence of any decent statistician is sorely felt!! Firstly it is 6% of the elegible voting black population - ie nearer 10% of the actual black voters! (about 50->60% of eligible blacks actually vote - slightly less than the white / coloured group). But the important point is to plot a graph now - go back to 2006, enter maybe 2%, then 2008 it was guessed at 3% now 6% - anybody with an A in woodworking will realise that the trend is not only up but accelerating. So OK there are 3 types of lies - we all know that. The point is if the trend continues and there is no reason why it shouldn't, a figure of nearer 10% is possible in the next generaly election and 25% in the following one. If we have the same ration of eligible to active it means the DA will have a majority at that point. This is the significance.

  • Martin - 2011-05-19 10:16

    I love this article about Zille when she won the WORLD mayor award in 2008. I'm not sure many ANC supports actually know this about her. take a read:

  • RiaanJ - 2011-05-19 10:17

    6% of blacks are educated and ready for change in South Africa...the rest are like Kolobe and his mates....a bunch of ignorant fools!

      Awol - 2011-05-19 10:22

      Have the racist pimple Kolobe posted anything today? Do direct me, where is his partner? Whart Mad Man and Papsak? Very quiet....

      lenand40 - 2011-05-19 10:34

      Sounds like you are one of those uneducated ignorant fools yourself, Riaan

      chiefbambath - 2011-05-19 10:58

      @Riaan. Do you even think that after reading your racist insults and you associating yourself with the DA, that 6% will ever grow?

      Martin - 2011-05-19 11:29

      Riaan, that is not cool man. How can you call people fools and then expect them to want a united SA. We need to really think before we speak. I have been guilty of that myself so I am not trying to through stones here. We just got to keep our cool here. Let Malema and Hofmeyer be the racists!!! You will one day realize that nobody will support them.

  • BigD - 2011-05-19 10:21

    why mention colour. I thought the DA had no colour in tactics. You might be shocked to find out many more white anc voters now vote for DA.

  • motsokwane - 2011-05-19 10:31

    Devils Advocates are so stupid not to understand that they stand a better chance in Armstedam than in Africa.ONS SAAL NIE MEER,GE!GE!GE!GE! MOER,NIE MEER let a foreigner to come with their kak stories in Africa again.We call the shots and they will obey.

      Awol - 2011-05-19 10:37

      Ummmm....Never mind...not worth the effort!!!

  • LilGhettoBoy - 2011-05-19 10:44

    @ AWOL, do the maths, since DA were formed, they probably had 2% of the black vote, because even in 94 there were blacks which believed that ANC is no good otherwise there would've been more then 80% votes going to ANC. Now if you look at 4% in 10 years or going back to 94, 17 years. Well that would be 40% in 100 years or 170 years from now.

      Awol - 2011-05-19 10:51

      What, where do you get your stats? Ok cool: lets take your stats: 4% in ten years OF THE BLACK VOTE, what about other ethnic groups and minorities suddenly voting DA? The DA is not after all the black votes, you have to take it in perspective. The DA will be gunning for at least 20% of the vote, thus it will take roughly 5 voting rounds to do it, with a voting round every 4 - 5 years, taking into account as numbers grow a percentage point in terns of numbers gets higher. So 5 voting round times 4 - 5 years per voting round? = 20 years Only 20% is what the DA need to enable them to rule the country for all. Again I say: The ANC is sh*tting their pants!!

      Awol - 2011-05-19 10:52

      @littleghettoboy: I will not charge you this time for the little lesson in maths and probability and what a party need to rule. Okay?

      LilGhettoBoy - 2011-05-19 11:10

      @ AWOL not all of the other races would vote DA either, me not4sure, not that I'll vote ANC. I am still waiting for my party and even COPE(@ theit hight) was not for. The ANC is still the closest in terms of policy, but not in terms of DOING.

      Awol - 2011-05-19 11:18

      Now you suddenly agree? not agree? dont know? Stand what you stand for!! Be it as it may, I just wanted to prove your reasoning behind your stats were flawed, well, at least you realised your error and now also see that the ANC is in serious trouble!

  • LilGhettoBoy - 2011-05-19 10:47

    I just want to say I do not know any educated black person which is supporting the DA, it's probably mostly maids and gardeners that vote for DA.

      Awol - 2011-05-19 11:05

      We have a champion people!! Someone who insults his own kind and wait for it: Someone who is RACIST to his own kind. A lot of gardeners and maids are people who earn a honest and hard living. They have to ensure their money they earn is stretched to the limit. They do not have houses in nice suburbs and HAVE TO rely on the people governing to give them basic services. I treat my gardener and maid with the upmost respect and truly feel sorry for them as the system has failed them. Educated black persons? Here is my view: They are DEFINATELY some of the people that swinged their votes, because as educated people, they are realising that government is failing them and what impact government can have on their wealth and well being. So LilghettoBoy, you seem uneducated, so I put it to you: I have an opening in my Garden for clearly do not belong between educated black people.

      Tracey Nielsen - 2011-05-19 11:33

      @Awol You're wasting your breath. Trying to explain these things to the uneducated is like arguing with a 3 year old! It's obviously still a battle of black agains white for these guys. When will they learn?

  • Plato - 2011-05-19 10:54

    Find the comments interesting but do not hear solutions. Only ‘they’ and ‘us’. In the current municipal elections, the political parties had major issues with the toilet sagas. In the mind of the educated voter, this is a major issue. But is it in the mind of the uneducated masses? Wouldn’t you rather have food and no toilets instead of toilets and no food? I believe that parties who priorities this most important need will get the votes. Start to feed the people without giving them the fish but rather giving them a rod. Create support structures in the communities and assist them in establishing vegetable gardens. Teach them how to over produce so that they can sell the access and use the money to purchase other commodities Change the municipal bylaws so that they can keep chickens in a controlled and hygienic fashion in their yards. Pay them to plant and maintain lawns and trees on their streets. Educate the masses by taking it to their houses. Make a difference to their daily lives. Feed them. Give them a suburb they are proud to be associated with. Only when that is in place, services will become a major issue. Is that not what motivates the educated voter? While doing this it is important not to play politics. Do not tell them that the party they have voted for is a bad party. Although uneducated, they are not stupid and no one likes to be told that they have made a mistake. In the South African context, it is like telling someone that his farther did a bad job in raising him. The person will, in the majority of the cases, defend the father – right or wrong. Tell them who you are, what you want to do and be compassionate. Leave the rest to them – the votes will come.

  • Chris - 2011-05-19 11:04

    Seems like many posters here are in the first of the five stages of grief, namely Denial. Next will come Anger, and here they will start blaming everyone but the party that they love. Then Bargaining, then Depression, followed (eventually) by Acceptance.

  • Tracey Nielsen - 2011-05-19 11:21

    Can't believe some of these comments! Are there really so many ignorant people out there? When are we going to stop fighting against each other, and take hands to make this a better counrty for all? Time to get rid of that chip on your shoulder and realise your responsibility man!

      Awol - 2011-05-19 11:38

      Hi hear you but taking hand and singing Kumbaja is not probable.... Some comments are far fetched but through health arguments and discussions viewpoints can be changed.

  • Shrek - 2011-05-19 11:37

    Prev Abused. The DA will never run this country????? The ANC is not running the country they are ruining this country. Tell me what dept/institution anything that is run better than before ??? Wake up and smell the sorry the sewerage

  • Carl Muller - 2011-05-19 11:41

    If the ANC does not deliver they are out in the next election....

  • Steen - 2011-05-19 12:16

    But can this be verified?

  • nn.prv - 2011-05-19 13:21

    DA other parties cannot COPE with the ANC, maybe they have no ID_ea on how to I_mplement F_acebook P_oliticking .........

  • mdebruyn1 - 2011-05-19 13:46

    There will be winners and runner ups in this elections, but the question is, how big is the victory, if more than 50% of the registered voters decided that none of the parties on the ballot ain't worth voting for.

  • Inki - 2011-05-19 13:48

    2014 is coming!! Change is on the horizon!!!

  • mhaga.sabe - 2011-05-19 14:18

    DA is clearly a party for white voters; these elections confirm the whites in CPT, Dbn, Jhb, PTA, and Midvaal are unmistakenly voting DA as always. The 6% from blacks is more from their employees who get jobs from the DA members, they may also be from ID as Patricia has her political values and upbringing from the PAC, they may also be coming from Cope as Lekota is the best candidate to go to bed with whites (he speaks the best Afrikaans and he loves the whites)DA is certain to swallow Cope as they have done with ID. No true ANC support will ever go to DA, given the DA apartheid history. ANC continues to govern! ANC must always get the 65% majority and that remains the ANC target for 2014. As ANC celebrates 100 years next year ANC must reclaim their space in all the municipalities that are stolen by these other small parties like the DA. The people LOVE this ANC, they are not about to change, the election results confirm this!!!!!

      DW - 2011-05-19 15:02

      And mhaga you have proof of which 6% of the blacks voted for DA, do you? Did you ask the voters to photograph their ballot papers and bring proof to you of who they voted for? We have seen many educated people here who have stated that they will no longer vote for ANC - the DA does not have that many jobs available that they could provide jobs to all these people. ANC is not going to get 65% majority in your wildest dreams. How much do you want to bet that within the next 6 months there will be massive service delivery strikes in ANC run municipalities as the people realise that the promises were just to win the election? No municipalities were "stolen". The people voted. That is what democracy is about. The ANC needs to realise that if they dont produce the goods, people will just stop voting for them.

  • Pule - 2011-05-19 19:45

    can someone explain the black vote, how does it look like,

      Me - 2011-05-26 09:25

      It's when they use a black pen or marker to make the X, they grey vote is when they use a pencil, then there is the red and blue vote, you sometimes get a purple vote, and very rarely even a pink vote, I prefer to cast a black vote since it's easier to see.

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